♪ ♪ >> Martha: SO LET'S BRING IN

>> Martha: SO LET'S BRING IN TREY GOWDY, FORMER CHAIR OF THE

TREY GOWDY, FORMER CHAIR OF THE HOUSE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE AND

HOUSE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE AND FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR'S.

FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR'S. ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOU.

ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOU. WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT THIS

WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT THIS MORNING ABOUT HOW THIS UKRAINE

MORNING ABOUT HOW THIS UKRAINE CONVERSATION SEEMS TO BE

CONVERSATION SEEMS TO BE SHIFTING OVER TO

SHIFTING OVER TO SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM.

SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM. AND I WONDER HOW YOU SEE THAT.

AND I WONDER HOW YOU SEE THAT. WHAT DOES THAT SIGNAL TO YOU?

WHAT DOES THAT SIGNAL TO YOU? >> WELL, I WATCHED HIS PRESS

>> WELL, I WATCHED HIS PRESS CONFERENCE THIS MORNING.

CONFERENCE THIS MORNING. I THINK HIS POINT IS WHAT IS THE

I THINK HIS POINT IS WHAT IS THE THRESHOLD FOR AN INVESTIGATION?

THRESHOLD FOR AN INVESTIGATION? WE LEARNED WITH RUSSIA THAT IT

WE LEARNED WITH RUSSIA THAT IT CAN BE A CONVERSATION IN A BAR.

CAN BE A CONVERSATION IN A BAR. THAT'S ALL IT TAKES TO LAUNCH AN

THAT'S ALL IT TAKES TO LAUNCH AN INVESTIGATION.

INVESTIGATION. WHAT IS THE THRESHOLD?

WHAT IS THE THRESHOLD? NO ONE IS CONCLUDING THAT THEY

NO ONE IS CONCLUDING THAT THEY ENGAGED IN ANY IMPROPRIETY, BUT

ENGAGED IN ANY IMPROPRIETY, BUT WHAT IS THE THRESHOLD?

WHAT IS THE THRESHOLD? I HOPE THAT THE ANCILLARY

I HOPE THAT THE ANCILLARY QUESTION IS, IF JOE BIDEN WERE

QUESTION IS, IF JOE BIDEN WERE NOT A CANDIDATE, WOULD THIS BE

NOT A CANDIDATE, WOULD THIS BE AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE?

AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE? IF YOU WERE JUST AN ORDINARY

IF YOU WERE JUST AN ORDINARY AMERICAN THAT SAID WHAT HE SAID

AMERICAN THAT SAID WHAT HE SAID ABOUT WITHHOLDING THE LOAN

ABOUT WITHHOLDING THE LOAN ASSISTANCE, WHO HAD A SON WITH

ASSISTANCE, WHO HAD A SON WITH NO QUALIFICATIONS BEING ON A

NO QUALIFICATIONS BEING ON A BOARD IN A COUNTRY WITH

BOARD IN A COUNTRY WITH PERVASIVE CORRUPTION, WOULD THIS

PERVASIVE CORRUPTION, WOULD THIS BE AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE?

BE AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE? OR IS IT ONLY BECAUSE HE'S IN

OR IS IT ONLY BECAUSE HE'S IN THE STATUS OF POTENTIAL

THE STATUS OF POTENTIAL CANDIDATE, THAT THIS SOMEHOW IS

CANDIDATE, THAT THIS SOMEHOW IS ELEVATED TO SOMETHING FOR WHICH

ELEVATED TO SOMETHING FOR WHICH YOU SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM

YOU SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE?

OFFICE? >> Bret: IT IS BRET.

>> Bret: IT IS BRET. GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING. GOOD AFTERNOON, I SHOULD SAY.

GOOD AFTERNOON, I SHOULD SAY. THE QUESTION THAT KEEPS COMING

THE QUESTION THAT KEEPS COMING UP IS WHY THIS IS URGENT.

UP IS WHY THIS IS URGENT. ADAM SCHIFF TALKED ABOUT THAT ON

ADAM SCHIFF TALKED ABOUT THAT ON THE FLOOR OF THE SENATE

THE FLOOR OF THE SENATE YESTERDAY, SAYING ABOUT THE

YESTERDAY, SAYING ABOUT THE PRESIDENT IS TRYING TO INTERFERE

PRESIDENT IS TRYING TO INTERFERE OR CHEAT IN THE 2020 ELECTION.

OR CHEAT IN THE 2020 ELECTION. SENATOR BOB CASEY FROM

SENATOR BOB CASEY FROM PENNSYLVANIA TALKED A LITTLE BIT

PENNSYLVANIA TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT ON HERE EARLIER.

ABOUT IT ON HERE EARLIER. TAKE A LISTEN.

TAKE A LISTEN. >> WE ARE HERE TODAY TO CONSIDER

>> WE ARE HERE TODAY TO CONSIDER A MUCH MORE GRAVE MATTER, AND

A MUCH MORE GRAVE MATTER, AND THAT IS AN ATTEMPT TO USE THE

THAT IS AN ATTEMPT TO USE THE POWERS OF THE PRESIDENT'S

POWERS OF THE PRESIDENT'S PRESIDENCY TO CHEAT.

PRESIDENCY TO CHEAT. THE PRESIDENT'S MISCONDUCT

THE PRESIDENT'S MISCONDUCT CANNOT BE DECIDED AT THE BALLOT

CANNOT BE DECIDED AT THE BALLOT BOX.

BOX. FOR WE CANNOT BE ASSURED THAT

FOR WE CANNOT BE ASSURED THAT THE VOTE WILL BE FAIRLY WON.

THE VOTE WILL BE FAIRLY WON. IN THIS CASE, WHAT WE ARE

IN THIS CASE, WHAT WE ARE REVIEWING IS THE PRESIDENT'S

REVIEWING IS THE PRESIDENT'S CONDUCT, SO YOU CAN WAIT UNTIL

CONDUCT, SO YOU CAN WAIT UNTIL ELECTION DAY TO SORT THAT OUT

ELECTION DAY TO SORT THAT OUT BECAUSE I THINK IT IS VERY

BECAUSE I THINK IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT OUT OF THE

IMPORTANT THAT OUT OF THE FOUNDERS ENSHRINED IN THE

FOUNDERS ENSHRINED IN THE CONSTITUTION, THEY HAVE TO HAVE

CONSTITUTION, THEY HAVE TO HAVE A CHECK ON THE EXECUTIVES,

A CHECK ON THE EXECUTIVES, BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T HAVE

BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT CHECK, WHICH IS ONLY

THAT CHECK, WHICH IS ONLY PERMITTED THROUGH IMPEACHMENT,

PERMITTED THROUGH IMPEACHMENT, THERE IS NO OTHER WAY TO DO

THERE IS NO OTHER WAY TO DO THAT.

THAT. NO HEARING, NO COURT, NO

NO HEARING, NO COURT, NO NOTHING.

NOTHING. OTHERWISE, YOU COULD HAVE AN

OTHERWISE, YOU COULD HAVE AN EXECUTIVE CHEATING THEIR WAY TO

EXECUTIVE CHEATING THEIR WAY TO THE NEXT ELECTION.

THE NEXT ELECTION. >> Bret: I WANT YOU TO WEIGH

>> Bret: I WANT YOU TO WEIGH IN HERE, BUT THE BIG QUESTION IS

IN HERE, BUT THE BIG QUESTION IS THE WAY THAT ADAM SCHIFF SET UP,

THE WAY THAT ADAM SCHIFF SET UP, DO VOTERS NEVER GOING TO GET TO

DO VOTERS NEVER GOING TO GET TO TRUST THE VOTE, AND ONLY

TRUST THE VOTE, AND ONLY LAWMAKERS CAN DECIDE WHAT THE

LAWMAKERS CAN DECIDE WHAT THE LINE IS, THAT THE PRESIDENT CAN

LINE IS, THAT THE PRESIDENT CAN GET KICKED OUT OF OFFICE?

GET KICKED OUT OF OFFICE? >> YEAH, BRET, ADAM IS

>> YEAH, BRET, ADAM IS ORDINARILY NOT THAT STUPID, BUT

ORDINARILY NOT THAT STUPID, BUT WHEN YOU TELL THE JURY, THE

WHEN YOU TELL THE JURY, THE SENATE, ONE DAY THAT THEY ARE

SENATE, ONE DAY THAT THEY ARE CORRUPT, THEN YOU TELL THE

CORRUPT, THEN YOU TELL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT THEY CANNOT

AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT THEY CANNOT BE TRUSTED TO PICK THE COMMANDER

BE TRUSTED TO PICK THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF, THAT IS JUST A WILDLY

IN CHIEF, THAT IS JUST A WILDLY STUPID TRIAL STRATEGY.

STUPID TRIAL STRATEGY. REMEMBER WHEN DONALD TRUMP AS A

REMEMBER WHEN DONALD TRUMP AS A CANDIDATE BEGAN TO QUESTION THE

CANDIDATE BEGAN TO QUESTION THE RELIABILITY OF THE VOTE.

RELIABILITY OF THE VOTE. REMEMBER WHEN HE STARTED MAKING

REMEMBER WHEN HE STARTED MAKING ALLUSIONS TO POTENTIAL VOTER

ALLUSIONS TO POTENTIAL VOTER FRAUD, AND HE WAS CRITICIZED BY

FRAUD, AND HE WAS CRITICIZED BY EVERYONE I HEARD IN THE MEDIA

EVERYONE I HEARD IN THE MEDIA FOR EVEN SUGGESTING THAT YOU

FOR EVEN SUGGESTING THAT YOU COULD NOT RELY ON A VOTE TOTAL.

COULD NOT RELY ON A VOTE TOTAL. ADAM SCHIFF HAS DONE THE EXACT

ADAM SCHIFF HAS DONE THE EXACT SAME THING.

SAME THING. AMERICAN PEOPLE, WE DON'T TRUST

AMERICAN PEOPLE, WE DON'T TRUST YOU TO FACTOR THIS IN A

YOU TO FACTOR THIS IN A NOVEMBER, SO WE NEED 100

NOVEMBER, SO WE NEED 100 SENATORS TO DECIDE THAT.

SENATORS TO DECIDE THAT. IT IS ALL WILDLY STUPID TRIAL