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  • >> Harris: FORMER NATIONAL

  • SECURITY ADVISOR JOHN BOLTON

  • ANNOUNCING HE WILL TESTIFY IN

  • PRESIDENT TRUMP'S UPCOMING

  • SENATE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL IF HE

  • RECEIVES A SUBPOENA.

  • LAWMAKERS ARE RETURNING TO

  • CAPITOL HILL WITH BOTH SIDES OF

  • THE AISLE STILL DIVIDED ON THE

  • RULES FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP'S

  • SENATE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL.

  • SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE

  • CHAIRMAN LINDSEY GRAHAM SAYS "OF

  • HOUSES BEAKER NANCY PELOSI DOES

  • NOT HAND OVER THOSE ARTICLES OF

  • IMPEACHMENT TO THE UPPER CHAMBER

  • SOON, HE WILL FIND A WAY TO

  • START THE SENATE TRIAL WITHOUT

  • THEM."

  • >> WHAT I WILL DO IF SHE

  • CONTINUES TO REFUSE TO SEND THE

  • ARTICLES AS REQUIRED BY THE

  • CONSTITUTION, I WOULD WORK WITH

  • SENATOR McCONNELL TO CHANGE

  • THE RULES IN THE SENATE SO WE

  • COULD START THE TRIAL WITHOUT

  • HER IF NECESSARY.

  • IF WE DON'T GET THE ARTICLES

  • THIS WEEK, THEN WE NEED TO TAKE

  • METALS INTO OUR OWN HANDS AND

  • CHANGE THE RULES, SO WE CAN

  • START THE TRIAL INVITE THE

  • HOUSE SO THEY CAN PARTICIPATE.

  • >> OKAY, KELLY, I WANT TO START

  • WITH YOU.

  • PREVIOUSLY, JOHN BOLTON SAID HE

  • WAS UNDECIDED AS TO WHETHER HE

  • WOULD TESTIFY OR NOT.

  • THAT WAS WHEN IT WAS BACK IN THE

  • HOUSE.

  • THEY CHOSE NOT TO SUBPOENA HIM

  • AS THEY SAID THEY WOULD WAIT FOR

  • THE COURTS TO DECIDE.

  • NOW HE IS SAYING HE WAS LOOKING

  • FOR A FINAL JUDICIAL RESOLUTION.

  • I HAVE CONCLUDED THAT IF THE

  • SENATE ISSUE SUBPOENA FOR MY

  • TESTIMONY, I AM PREPARED TO

  • TESTIFY BECAUSE A FINAL JUDICIAL

  • ROGER LUTHERAN APPEARS UNLIKELY

  • BEFORE THE SENATE TRIAL.

  • THE COURTS ARE WAITING TO DECIDE

  • TO COMPEL HIM.

  • NOW HE SAYS IF I GET A SUBPOENA

  • I WILL GO.

  • WHAT KIND OF RELEVANT

  • INFORMATION DO YOU THINK HE HAS?

  • >> Cully: NO IDEA, BUT I CAN

  • TELL YOU ONE THING.

  • JOHN BOLTON IS A REALLY SMART.

  • CLARENCE THOMAS, WHEN HE GAVE A

  • SPEECH AT MY ORGANIZATION YEARS

  • AGO SAID THAT JOHN BOLTON WAS

  • THE SMARTEST GUY IN LAW SCHOOL

  • AND HAD THE HIGHEST GPA AT YALE

  • LAW SCHOOL EVER.

  • I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S TRUE

  • TO THIS DAY, BUT HE IS A SAVVY

  • CHARACTER.

  • I THINK HE ALSO FEELS THAT IT IS

  • PROBABLY HIS PATRIOTIC DUTY THAT

  • IF THE SENATE SOUNDS I'M A

  • SUBPOENA HE'S JUST GOING TO

  • COMPLY WITH IT.

  • WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO

  • COME OUT OF JOHN BOLTON'S MOUTH,

  • WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES HE

  • WAS AT THE PRESIDENT SIDE.

  • WE DO KNOW FROM PUBLISHED

  • REPORTS THAT OVER TIME, HE

  • STARTED LOSING THE PRESIDENTS

  • HERE, ESPECIALLY NEAR THE END.

  • SO, WHETHER HE WAS THERE FOR THE

  • KEY UKRAINE STUFF, WE DON'T

  • KNOW.

  • >> Harris: KENNEDY, THAT IS IN

  • FACT WHAT HE SAID IS THAT "I

  • HAVE TRIED TO MEET MY

  • OBLIGATIONS BOTH AS A CITIZEN

  • AND AS A FORMAL NATIONAL

  • SECURITY ADVISOR."

  • THAT EIGHT IS HIS DUTY TO GO

  • TESTIFY, WHAT DO YOU THINK?

  • >> HE KNOWS HOW SMART HE IS,

  • JOHN BOLTON HAS THE JOHN BOLTON

  • WORLDVIEW, HE ALSO HAS A BOOK

  • COMING OUT, NO MATTER WHAT

  • HAPPENS, I DO THINK HE IS GOING

  • TO TELL THE TRUTH, HE'S GOING TO

  • LAY OUT THE CARDS AS HE SEES IT.

  • HE WANTS TO SET HIS OWN RECORD

  • STRAIGHT IN PRINTS AND VERBALLY

  • IN FRONT OF THE SENATE DURING

  • THIS TRIAL.

  • SO, I THINK THE NEWS OF IRAN AND

  • A POTENTIAL INVASION IN HIS

  • BRAIN HAS GOT HIM SO EXCITED

  • THAT HE NEEDS TO REINSERT

  • HIMSELF AND ADD HIS TWO CENTS AT

  • THIS CRITICAL STAGE.

  • >> SO, JEANNIE, THIS IS A VERY

  • INTERESTING CROSSROADS WHERE

  • LINDSEY GRAHAM SAYS THAT MAYBE

  • WE WILL TAKE THEM UP IF

  • NANCY PELOSI DOESN'T TAKE THEM

  • OVER AND DELIVER THEM.

  • SHE IS BEEN SITTING ON THESE

  • ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT, A LOT

  • OF PEOPLE ARE HYPOTHESES SAYING

  • THE REASON WHY SHE IS DOING THAT

  • IS BECAUSE SHE'S TRYING TO

  • NEGOTIATE WITH THE SENATE IN

  • ORDER TO HAVE A TRIAL AND BRING

  • THESE WITNESSES FORTH.

  • BUT SHE WAS NOT WILLING TO WAIT

  • ON THOSE WITNESSES IN THE HOUSE,

  • AND SUBPOENAING THEM AS JOHN

  • BOLTON SIDE, HE NEVER DID

  • RECEIVE A SUBPOENA.

  • SHE WASN'T WILLING TO WAIT ON

  • THE COURTS THEY ARE, BUT NOW,

  • SHE IS WAITING, AND TRYING TO

  • FORCE THE SENATE TO DO WHAT SHE

  • HERSELF DID NOT HAVE THE

  • PATIENCE TO DO.

  • HOW DOES THAT LOOK POLITICALLY?

  • >> I THINK POLITICALLY IT LOOKS

  • VERY BAD FOR THE DEMOCRATS.

  • I REALLY HAVE ALWAYS HAD A

  • PROBLEM WITH THE CALENDAR ON

  • THIS.

  • WHICH WAS A CALENDAR DRIVEN BY

  • THE POLITICS, CLEARLY.

  • I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT THE

  • DEMOCRATS SHOULD HAVE WAITED TO

  • HEAR FROM THE COURTS, OR, FOR

  • BURTON TO CHANGE HIS MIND AND TO

  • AGREE TO A SUBPOENA REGARDLESS

  • OF WHAT THE COURTS ESSAY TO

  • GET ALL THE INFORMATION THAT

  • THEY HAD AND THEN, IF THEY ARE

  • GOING TO PUT SOME THING

  • TOGETHER --

  • >> Harris: SO IS IT HELPFUL

  • THAT BOLTS AND OTHERS ARE

  • WILLING TO SPEED UP THE

  • SITUATION FOR THE DEMOCRATS

  • WESTERN MARK THEY ARE NOT DOING

  • IT FOR THEM BUT --

  • THIS BEFORE I THINK IT IS SUCH A

  • SHAME THAT THESE ARTICLES HAVE

  • NOW GONE OUT.

  • ARE THEY GOING TO GO BACK

  • DEPENDING ON WHAT BOLTON HAS TO

  • SAY AND REWRITE AS ARTICLES OF

  • IMPEACHMENT?

  • I SUPPOSE THEY COULD.

  • YOU ARE THE LEGAL EXPERT, HERE,

  • BUT YOU KNOW, TO ME, THIS

  • SCREAMS A POLITICAL MESS FOR THE

  • DEMOCRATS IN THE HOUSE, AND I

  • THINK THEY HAVE SHOT THEMSELVES

  • IN THE FOOT ON THIS.

  • >> Harris: CULLY CAN ASK YOU,

  • DO YOU MIND IF I JUST ASKED BETA

  • QUICK QUESTION.

  • WHAT LEGALLY CAN SOMEONE LIKE A

  • JOHN BOLTON DO ON THE STAND?

  • IT'S NOT REALLY THE STAND, BUT

  • IN THE HEARING, CAN HE PLEAD THE

  • FIFTH, CAN HEEM HAVE ANY KIND OF