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  • WAS HAPPENING, BUT HE WAS

  • PLANNING A VERY MAJOR ATTACK,

  • AND WE GOT HIM.

  • >> Pete: THAT WAS

  • PRESIDENT TRUMP EXPLAIN WHY HE

  • TOOK ACTION TO KILL YOUR BRAND'S

  • TOP GENERAL, HE DID IT TO HOLD

  • BACK A WAR, BUT HIS CRITICS ARE

  • PILING ON.

  • >> BUT WITHOUT CONGRESSIONAL

  • OPPOSITION, ENTERING INTO

  • ANOTHER MIDDLE EAST WAR.

  • >> I WOULD ANTICIPATE THE

  • PERSIAN GULF WAR WILL BEGIN

  • ANEW.

  • >> THIS ONE OFF ACTION CAN HAVE

  • UNBELIEVABLY HORRIFIC

  • CONSEQUENCES.

  • THE NUMBER ONE, THERE WILL BE

  • DEAD AMERICANS, DEAD CIVILIAN

  • AMERICANS AS A RESULT OF THIS.

  • >> IT IS NOT JUST

  • SERVICE MEMBERS, ALL AMERICAN

  • CITIZENS ARE WALKING PRIME

  • TARGETS FOR IRANIAN RETALIATION.

  • >> Lawrence: ACCUSING

  • PRESIDENT TRUMP AS USING THE

  • AIR STRIKE AS IMPEACHMENT,

  • TWEETING SO WHAT IF TRUMP ONCE

  • MORE, KNOWS IT IS AT LEAST A

  • WAR AND NEEDS A DISTRACTION."

  • OH, MY GOD.

  • PETE, TYPICALLY WHEN THERE IS

  • SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THE COUNTRY

  • COMES TOGETHER, YOU PUT POLITICS

  • ASIDE.

  • OF COURSE, THEY CAN HAVE THE

  • DEBATE IF THE PRESIDENT SHOULD

  • DECLARE WAR, BUT ACCUSING THE

  • PRESIDENT OF USING THIS FOR A

  • BLOCK FOR IMPEACHMENT?

  • >> Pete: THE WHOLE IDEA OF HIM

  • BEING COMMANDER IN CHIEF, THERE

  • WAS A COMMENTATOR TODAY THAT

  • SAID RIGHT ACTION, WRONG

  • COMMANDER IN CHIEF.

  • AND IT DOES NOT MATTER THE

  • DECISION THAT IS MADE.

  • THERE WAS LITERALLY JONATHAN ON

  • ANOTHER NETWORK THAT SAID, THE

  • IMPLICATION IS, I WOULD RATHER

  • HAVE THE CORRECT COMMANDER IN

  • CHIEF, MEANING HILLARY CLINTON

  • AND THE WRONG ACTION.

  • AND SUMS UP PRECISELY HOW THEY

  • VIEW HIM, THE REALITY IS, THE

  • COMMENTARY IS TRUE.

  • HE MADE THE RIGHT CALL.

  • HE MADE A CALL BASED ON ADVISORS

  • AROUND HIM WHO BELIEVE THIS IS

  • AN IMMINENT THREAT AND

  • SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE HE SAW A

  • POLICY ACTION TAKEN UNDER THE

  • OBAMA ADMINISTRATION WHERE

  • SOVEREIGN AMERICAN SOIL WHERE

  • THERE WAS A CONSULATE OR AN

  • EMBASSY THAT WAS THREATENED THEN

  • NOT TAKEN SERIOUSLY.

  • DISMISSED BY AN INTERNET VIDEO

  • AND THE NATIONAL SECURITY

  • ADVISOR LATER ON.

  • HE SAID IF YOU'RE GOING TO TRY

  • THAT.

  • AND WE KNOW WHAT THEY DO, IRAN

  • 40 YEARS AGO USE THE EMBASSY IN

  • TEHRAN AS A LAUNCHING OFF POINT

  • FOR THE AMERICAN PUBLIC.

  • THE EMBASSY IS MEANINGFUL, IT IS

  • SOVEREIGN AMERICAN SOIL.

  • THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN.

  • AND AS A RESULT, I SEE THE SIGNS

  • IN FRONT OF ME, AND I'M GOING TO

  • COMPENSATE.

  • I WILL SEND THE MARINES, I WILL

  • SEND THE 82ND AIRBORNE, WHICH HE

  • DID KNOWING THEY HAD

  • INTELLIGENCE ON THE LINE.

  • IT LOOKED LIKE A BIGGER REACTION

  • THAN PEOPLE THOUGHT AS A RESULT,

  • THEY KNEW WHAT WAS COMING NEXT.

  • THIS WAS SOMETHING INTENTIONAL,

  • BECAUSE HE DID NOT, IMAGINE IF

  • HE HAD NOT ACTED.

  • THE AMOUNT OF NEGLIGENCE HE

  • WOULD BE CHARGED WITH FOR

  • KNOWING ABOUT THE GATHERING

  • THREAT AND NOT STEPPING UP.

  • >> Emily: THERE BEEN THREATS

  • FROM HIM FOR DECADES, THAT'S WHY

  • I'M HARPING ABOUT KNOWING MORE

  • ABOUT THIS.

  • BECAUSE I THINK THE AMERICAN

  • PEOPLE DESERVE THE KNOWLEDGE

  • ABOUT WHY THIS TIME WAS

  • DIFFERENT WITH ALL OF THE

  • POTENTIAL DOWNSIDES THAT WILL

  • COME FROM THE STRIKE.

  • LOOK --

  • >> Pete: LIKE IN 2011, THERE

  • WERE DOWNSIDES THAT CAME FROM

  • THAT TOO.

  • >> Emily: WE ARE NOT TALKING

  • ABOUT 2011, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT

  • TODAY.

  • >> Pete: WHY CAN'T YOU SAY

  • THIS IS A BAD GUY WHO IS DEAD

  • AND THAT IS A GOOD THING?

  • >> Emily: BECAUSE A

  • CONSEQUENCES THAT COME FROM IT

  • COULD HAVE STRATEGIC AND

  • NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON THE

  • UNITED STATES THAT OUTWEIGH THE

  • BENEFITS.

  • THIS IS A CONSEQUENTIAL DECISION

  • THAT AMERICAN ADMINISTRATION HAS

  • TAKEN IN THE MIDDLE EAST SINCE

  • THE DECISION TO INVADE IRAQ IN

  • 2003, AND I HAVE NOT SEEN THE

  • STRATEGIC PLANNING FROM THE

  • TRUMP ADMINISTRATION THAT MEANS

  • THEY KNOW WHAT WILL COME NEXT.

  • >> Lawrence: IT IS ONE THING

  • TO SAY THAT YOU NEED MORE

  • INFORMATION, BUT YOU HAVE OBAMA

  • FORMER OFFICIALS LIKE BEN ROGUE

  • SAYING THAT THEY QUESTION THE

  • PRESIDENT STRATEGY, THE

  • COMPETENCE TO LEAD.

  • >> Dana: THAT WILL HAPPEN, AND

  • PRESIDENTS CANNOT WORRY.

  • THEY HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS

  • BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT

  • THEY HAVE, THE RESPONSIBILITY

  • THAT THEY HAVE AND THE TIMING,

  • AND THAT IS NOT FOR THEM TO

  • FIGURE THAT OUT RIGHT NOW, THE

  • OTHER THING IS, IF THERE HAD

  • BEEN AN ATTACK BASED ON

  • SOMETHING THE PRESIDENT KNEW

  • ABOUT AND DID NOT ATTACK, WHAT

  • YOU THINK THE 2020 DEMOCRATS

  • WOULD HAVE SAID INSTEAD?

  • IT WOULD'VE BEEN A DIFFERENT

  • ADMINISTRATION BECAUSE OF HOW

  • MUCH TOUGHER THEY WOULD BE.

  • IT IS DIFFICULT WHEN IT HAPPENS

  • IN THE MIDDLE OF A PRESIDENTIAL

  • ELECTION.

  • TO THE POINT IS THAT THE

  • CONGRESSWOMAN FROM MINNESOTA

  • SAID THAT IT MAY BE

  • PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS JUST TRYING

  • TO CREATE A DISTRACTION, I THINK

  • YOU CAN ARGUE PLEASE SAY THAT

  • FROM SEPTEMBER UNTIL NOW, THE

  • BIGGEST DISTRACTION IN AMERICA

  • HAS BEEN IMPEACHMENT.

  • THAT WAS ACTUALLY A DISTRACTION.

  • AND I ALSO THINK THAT THERE IS

  • MORE STRATEGIES BEHIND THIS

  • BECAUSE OF SOMETHING YOU POINTED

  • OUT, PETE, THAT IN APRIL OF

  • 2019, THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION

  • DESIGNATES SOLEIMANI AND HIS

  • GROUP AS A TERRORIST

  • ORGANIZATION.

  • I THINK THAT PROBABLY WILL LOOK

  • BACK AND FIND THE HISTORY IS

  • WRITTEN ABOUT THIS TIME THAT

  • THERE WAS A LOT MORE STRATEGY

  • THAN WE THOUGHT.

  • BUT YOU CAN'T PLAN EVERYTHING

  • OUT.

  • SO YES, YOU NEED TO KNOW WHERE

  • THINGS ARE GOING.

  • SPEAK TO THE POINT I WOULD LIKE

  • TO MAKE IS THAT WHEN PEOPLE SAY

  • THAT THIS IS THE S ESCALATION,

  • WHAT HAVE THE IRANIANS BEEN

  • DOING?

  • STEADILY ESCALATING AND BECOMING

  • BOLDER WITH THEIR ACTIONS

  • AGAINST US STARTING WITH OIL

  • TANKERS AND THEN THE OIL

  • PROCESSING FACILITIES AND THEN

  • U.S. POSITIONS, AND THEN AN

  • ALL-OUT ATTACK THAT KILLED A

  • U.S. CONTRACTOR AND THEN AN

  • ATTACK ON THE U.S. EMBASSY.

  • SO I ALSO DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY

  • ALL OF A SUDDEN OUT OF THE BLUE

  • WE QUESTION THE U.S.

  • INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY WHEN

  • APPARENTLY ESPECIALLY IN

  • DOMESTIC MATTERS THEY ARE TO BE

  • ABSOLUTELY BELIEVED AT ALL

  • POINTS.

  • IT IS ONLY BECAUSE OF THE

  • INVOLVEMENT THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN

  • WE ARE NOT TO TRUST THEM.

  • WHEN THEY HAVE THE INTELLIGENCE

  • COMMITTEE COMING OUT THAT A

  • MAJOR ATTACK NECESSITATED THE

  • PREEMPTION WITH THE RISK.

  • SO WHY NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN DO WE

  • NEED MORE INFORMATION WHEN WE

  • HAVE IT COUPLED WITH IRANIAN

  • BEHAVIOR AND DECISIONS IN THESE

  • LAST YEAR OR SO HAVE ESCALATED,

  • WHY WOULD WE NOT BELIEVE THAT?

  • >> Lawrence: 2020 DEMOCRATS

  • LASHING OUT AT PRESIDENT TRUMP

  • FOR KILLING THE IRANIAN TOP

  • COMMANDER.

  • HITTING BACK.

  • WE WILL DISCUSS NEXT ON

  • "THE FIVE."

  • ♪ ♪

  • But right now, is not the time to talk about it.

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