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  • >> Martha: CONGRESSMAN DEVIN

  • NUNES, RANKING MEMBER OF THE

  • HOUSE INTELLIGENCE

  • COMMITTEE.

  • CONGRESSMAN, GOOD TO HAVE

  • YOU WITH US TONIGHT AS WELL.

  • WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT

  • THOSE SWING DISTRICTS AND

  • HOW THAT IS GOING TO GO IN

  • 2020?

  • >> WELL, I THINK ALL THOSE

  • MEMBERS ARE IN A LOT OF

  • TROUBLE.

  • THE KEY IS TWO

  • THE KEY IS DWO

  • THE KEY IS DOO

  • THE KEY IS DO REPUBLICANS

  • HAVE GOOD CANDIDATES AND IN

  • MANY OF THOSE DISTRICTS WE

  • DO.

  • FOR EXAMPLE, IN CALIFORNIA,

  • WE HAVE FORMER MEMBER DAVID

  • VALDEO FOUR POLLS UP BY

  • DOUBLE DIGITS THAT WAS

  • BEFORE IMPEACHMENT.

  • WE HAVE A LOT OF THE GREAT

  • DISTRICTS WE CAN WIN IN

  • 2020.

  • AND, YOU KNOW, THE PROBLEM

  • THAT THEY HAVE WITH THIS

  • IMPEACHMENT IS THAT THEY DID

  • NOT RUN A FAIR PROCESS.

  • SO, WHENEVER THEY SAY THEY

  • ARE RUNNING A FAIR PROCESS.

  • IT ACTUALLY MEANS THE

  • OPPOSITE.

  • WE HAVE SO MANY WITNESSES

  • AND WE DIDN'T ASK FOR VERY

  • MANY.

  • WE ASKED FOR ABOUT 10

  • WITNESSES.

  • THEY HAVE CALLED EXACTLY

  • ZERO OF OUR WITNESSES IN.

  • OKAY.

  • SO, HOW DO YOU HAVE A FAIR

  • TRIAL?

  • HOW DO YOU RUN A REAL

  • INVESTIGATION?

  • YOU KNOW, FOR ALL THE

  • NONSENSE THAT WE HAVE HEARD

  • WITH THESE GUYS WHERE THEY

  • 3406 FROM THE RUSSIA HOAX TO

  • UKRAINE HOAX THAT THEN

  • TURNED INTO THE IMPEACHMENT

  • HOAX.

  • REMEMBER, WE GAVE THEM

  • DOZENS AND DODDS DOZENS OF

  • AND DOZENS OF WITNESSES WHEN

  • THEY WERE IN CONTROL TO TRY

  • TO PROVE THE RUSSIA HOAX.

  • NOW ALL THEY DID WAS LIE TO

  • THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

  • >> Martha: VERY INTERESTING

  • REPORT COMING OUT FROM THE

  • FISA COURT.

  • PUSHING BACK AGAINST THE FBI

  • ESSENTIALLY SAYING DON'T TRY

  • THIS AGAIN WITH US BECAUSE

  • BY THE TIME IT GETS TO US,

  • WE ARE ASSUMING WHAT YOU ARE

  • PUTTING IN FRONT OF US IS

  • REAL AND IS ACCURATE AND IS

  • SUBSTANTIATED AND NOW THEY

  • KNOW THAT THAT WAS NOT THE

  • CASE AT ALL.

  • THAT THEY WERE GIVEN THINGS

  • THAT HAD HUGE HOLES IN THEM

  • AND ASKED TO SIGN OFF ON

  • THEM.

  • >> YEAH.

  • I'M GLAD TO SEE THE FIS

  • COURT COME OUT AND MAKE A

  • STATEMENT.

  • YOUR VIEWERS NEED TO KNOW

  • THAT THE FIS COURT IS ALSO

  • CULPABLE IN THIS MADNESS,

  • ALSO.

  • >> Martha: HOW SO?

  • >> I SAY THAT BECAUSE WE

  • SENT THEM TWO LETTERS, VERY

  • SPECIFIC LETTERS.

  • SO THIS IS PROBABLY PEOPLE

  • HEARING THIS FOR THE FIRST

  • TIME.

  • WE SENT ONE, I BELIEVE, IN

  • FEBRUARY OF 2018, WARNING

  • THEM OF VERY SERIOUS

  • MATTERS, IT WAS BASED ON THE

  • MEMO THAT WE HAD PUT FORWARD

  • AT THAT TIME.

  • THEY DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING

  • ABOUT IT.

  • THEN AGAIN, WHEN WE FOUND

  • OUT THAT SOURCE TWO, THE

  • ONLY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION,

  • OKAY, THAT WAS THERE, IT WAS

  • ESSENTIALLY THE -- IT WAS

  • THE DOSSIER.

  • >> Martha: RIGHT.

  • >> FAKE NEWS STORIES THAT

  • THEY USED AND SOURCE TOO.

  • WE ASSUMED WHEN WE WROTE THE

  • ORIGINAL MEMO THAT SOURCE

  • TWO WAS LEGITIMATE BUT LATER

  • TREY GOWDY WHO YOU WILL HAVE

  • ON IN A LITTLE BIT AND

  • MYSELF AND JOHN RATCLIFFE

  • AND OUR INVESTIGATIVE TEAM,

  • WE BEGAN TO LOOK AT SOURCE

  • 2.

  • AND WE DISCOVERED NUMBER ONE

  • THAT THEY HAD ACTUALLY BEGUN

  • SPYING BEFORE THEY EVEN GOT

  • THE WARRANT.

  • BUT, NUMBER TWO, THEY LEFT

  • ALL OF THIS EXCULPATORY

  • EVIDENCE.

  • THIS IS EVIDENCE THAT THEY

  • SHOULD HAVE PUT FORWARD ON

  • BOTH PAIGE AND PAPADOPOULOS.

  • PAPADOPOULOS IS KEY BECAUSE

  • HE IS THE REASONABLE THAT

  • THEY STARTED THE ENTIRE

  • INVESTIGATION.

  • HE DENIED IT CLEARLY.

  • SO, AT THAT POINT, WHEN YOU

  • HAVE A FULL BLOWN CI

  • INVESTIGATION GOING ON, YOU

  • SHOULD DO SOMETHING.

  • THE POINT HERE MARTHA IS

  • THAT THE COURT KNEW ABOUT

  • ALL OF THIS.

  • SO, I'M NOT SAYING THAT I'M

  • GLAD THEY HAVE ACTED.

  • I'M GLAD THEY SAID

  • SOMETHING, BUT I THINK THE

  • COURT HAS TO BE ENDED.

  • THIS IS NOT --

  • >> Martha: I WAS GOING TO

  • ASK BECAUSE TOMORROW I'M

  • GOING TO INTERVIEW THE

  • ATTORNEY GENERAL.

  • WILLIAM BARR.

  • AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK

  • ABOUT THIS.

  • DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THE FIS

  • COURT SHOULD BE ELIMINATED

  • AS ANDREW NAPOLITANO -- THE

  • JUDGE HAS ALSO ADVISED ON

  • THIS SHOW.

  • >> YEAH.

  • WE NEED A PROCESS, OKAY.

  • SO I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK IN

  • ABSOLUTES.

  • BUT I WILL SAY THAT THE WAY

  • THE COURTS CONDUCTED

  • THEMSELVES IS TOTALLY

  • INAPPROPRIATE.

  • THEY IGNORED CLEAR EVIDENCE

  • THAT WE PRESENTED TO THEM

  • THAT, REMEMBER, THEY HAD

  • THIS.

  • THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DIDN'T

  • HAVE IT.

  • WE HAD SEEN IT.

  • THEY HAD IT.

  • THEY DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING

  • ABOUT IT.

  • SO, THEY HAVE LEFT REALLY

  • CONGRESS NO CHOICE BUT TO

  • HAVE TO STEP IN AND FIX THIS

  • PROCESS.

  • >> Martha: LET ME ASK YOU

  • THIS, WERE THERE PARTICULAR

  • JUDGES ON THE FIS COURT THAT

  • YOU FEEL DID NOT TREAT THIS

  • PROPERLY?

  • >> WELL, LOOK, WHEN YOU HAVE

  • THE EVIDENCE THAT WE PRESENT

  • TO THEM AND THEY DO NOTHING

  • ABOUT IT AND NOW THEY COME

  • OUT AND I HAVE TO LOOK

  • CLOSELY AT THE LETTER THAT

  • THEY SENT OUT TODAY, THE

  • STATEMENT THAT THEY SENT

  • OUT, BECAUSE I'M NOT SO SURE

  • THAT THEY ARE BEING ENTIRELY

  • TRUTHFUL.

  • I HAVE READ WHAT WE SENT

  • THEM.

  • I JUST READ IT A FEW HOURS

  • AGO BACK IN THE SUMMER OF

  • 2018, THEY HAD A LOT OF THIS

  • INFORMATION THAT THEY CLAIM

  • THEY JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT.

  • I HAVE TO LOOK CLOSELY AT

  • THE WORDING.

  • >> Martha: VERY INTERESTING.

  • WE WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO

  • COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT

  • THAT SOME MORE WHEN YOU MAKE

  • THAT COMPARISON BETWEEN WHAT

  • THEY ARE SAYING AND WHAT YOU

  • TOLD THEM AND MADE CLEAR TO

  • THEM BACK THEN.

  • I WANT TO ASK YOU ONE LAST

  • QUESTION WITH REGARD TO

  • UKRAINE.

  • BECAUSE YOU TALKED ABOUT THE

  • RUSSIA SITUATION AND

  • UKRAINE.

  • RUDY GIULIANI, THE

  • PRESIDENT'S ATTORNEY, IS,

  • YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN BACK IN

  • UKRAINE.

  • HE SAYS THAT HAS A LOT OF

  • INFORMATION THAT WILL PROVE

  • THAT THERE WAS, INDEED, A

  • UKRAINE ELEMENT TO MEDDLING

  • IN THE ELECTION.

  • IN FACT, HE IS ARGUING, I

  • BELIEVE, THAT IT WAS UKRAINE

  • AND NOT RUSSIA.

  • HE SAYS THAT HE NEEDED TO

  • GET YANK

  • GET YOVK

  • GET YOVANOVITCH.

  • OUT OF THE WAY BECAUSE SHE

  • WAS APPROVING OF THE

  • SITUATION THERE WHAT DO YOU

  • THINK OF THAT.

  • >> I HAVE NOT SEEN RUDY

  • GIULIANI SAY RUSSIA DID

  • MEDDLE IN

  • DIDDLE IN

  • DIDNLE IN

  • DIDN'T IN

  • DIDN'TMEN

  • DIDN'TMEDDLE IN THIS ELECTION.

  • IT'S CLEAR THAT RUSSIA HAS

  • MEDDLE YOU HAD IN OUR

  • ELECTION AND WILL CONTINUE

  • TO MEDDLE IN OUR ELECTION AS

  • WILL OTHER COUNTRIES.

  • THE KEY POINT HERE IS THAT

  • ABOUT UKRAINE.

  • THERE WAS NO QUESTION THAT

  • THE DEMOCRATS HAD PAID

  • OPERATIVES THAT WERE GETTING

  • INFORMATION OUT OF UKRAINE.

  • YOU ONLY HAVE TO LOOK AT

  • PAUL MANAFORT.

  • PAUL MANAFORT WAS DIRTIED UP

  • BY WHAT WAS LIKELY

  • DISINFORMATION.

  • NOW, LOOK, HE ENDED UP DOING

  • OTHER THINGS WRONG, BUT THAT

  • INITIALING DIRT THAT CAME

  • FROM UKRAINE.

  • WE ALSO KNOW THAT THE

  • DOSSIER SOURCES, SOME OF

  • THOSE SOURCES WERE IN

  • UKRAINE.

  • SO, THERE IS NO QUESTION --

  • I'M NOT SAYING THAT THE

  • UKRAINIAN GOVERNMENT HAD

  • SOME NOT LIKE PUTIN WAS

  • DOING, BUT, LOOK, THEY

  • CLEARLY SIDED ON BEHALF OF

  • THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN AND

  • THEY HELPED TO DIRTY UP

  • TRUMP.

  • YOU HAD THE AMBASSADOR OF

  • IRK IN THE UNITED

  • UKK IN THE UNITED

  • UKRAIN THE UNITED

  • UKRAINETHE UNITED

  • UKRAINE IE UNITED

  • UKRAINE IN UNITED

  • UKRAINE IN TNITED

  • UKRAINE IN THETED

  • UKRAINE IN THE UD

  • UKRAINE IN THE UNITED STATES

  • IN WASHINGTON, D.C. SAYING

  • NEGATIVE THINGS ABOUT A

  • PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE.

  • WHICH IS ALMOST UNHEARD OF.

  • AS IT RELATES TO

  • YOVANOVITCH, THE ISSUE THERE

  • IS THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE

  • THERE THAT -- IN UKRAINE,

  • THAT WANT VISAS TO COME TO

  • THE UNITED STATES SO THEY

  • CAN PRESENT EVIDENCE TO THE

  • APPROPRIATE AUTHORITIES,

  • WHETHER IT BE CONGRESS OR

  • THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.

  • AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

  • AND THAT'S WHAT RUDY

  • GIULIANI IS SAYING THAT

  • THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WANT

  • TO GIVE US INFORMATION THAT

  • CANNOT DO IT.

  • >> Martha: OKAY.

>> Martha: CONGRESSMAN DEVIN

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