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>> Alcindor: SEVEN DEMOCRATIC
CANDIDATES FOR PRESIDENT TOOK
THE STAGE AT THE FINAL DEBATE OF
2019 THIS WEEK.
ONE OF THOSE WHO DIDN'T QUALIFY,
BASED ON POLL NUMBERS AND
FUNDRAISING, WAS FORMER
MASSACHUSETTS GOVERNOR DEVAL
PATRICK.
HE JOINS US NOW FROM THE
CAMPAIGN TRAIL IN MANCHESTER,
NEW HAMPSHIRE.
THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING ME,
GOVERNOR.
>> I'M GLAD TO BE WITH YOU,
YAMICHE, BUT, COME ON!
REALLY?
THAT'S THE INTRODUCTION?
"HE'S THE ONE WHO WASN'T ON THE
STAGE"?
COME ON!
>> Alcindor: WELL, YOU'RE HERE
NOW WITH US.
>> I'LL GET THERE.
>> Alcindor: YOU GOT IN THIS
RACE JUST LAST MONTH.
WHAT DO YOU SEE IS YOUR PATH TO
THE NOMINATION, GIVEN THAT SOME
PEOPLE THINK THAT MAYBE YOU
ENTERED TOO LATE?
>> WELL, IT'S... I'M LATER BUT
NOT LATE.
AND I... I THANK YOU FOR THE
CHANCE TO MAKE THAT POINT
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LATE
UNTIL THE VOTERS VOTE.
AND WHAT'S QUITE CLEAR EVEN IF
YOU DO TRUST THE POLLING THAT'S
OUT THERE IS THAT THERE ARE
OTHER CANDIDATES WHO HAVE BEEN
IN FOR A LONG TIME, SPENT A LOT
OF MONEY AND A LOT OF TIME, AND
IT'S STILL A WIDE OPEN RACE.
LARGE, LARGE PROPORTIONS,
MAJORITIES OF UNDECIDED VOTERS
IN ALL OF THE EARLY STATES.
SO, WE ARE RESPECTFUL OF THE
CALENDAR.
WE WILL COMPETE IN ALL OF THE
EARLY STATES.
WE'RE SPENDING A LOT OF TIME IN
NEW HAMPSHIRE AND SOUTH
CAROLINA, IN PARTICULAR, BECAUSE
PRIMARIES ARE JUST... THEY'RE
DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF HOW YOU
ORGANIZE THEM.
IF IT'S INTIMATE IN NEW
HAMPSHIRE, IT'S GRANULAR IN...
IN IOWA, IF YOU KNOW WHAT I
MEAN.
AND... AND WE WILL... WE WILL BE
PRESENT IN IOWA, BUT I THINK
YOU'LL SEE A LOT MORE TIME SPENT
HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE AND IN...
AND IN SOUTH CAROLINA.
>> Alcindor: THE DEMOCRATIC
NATIONAL COMMITTEE HAS RAISED
THE THRESHOLD AGAIN FOR THE NEXT
DEBATE.
IT'S GOING TO BE JANUARY 14.
THIS DEBATE, ANDREW YANG WAS THE
ONLY CANDIDATE OF COLOR ON
STAGE.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT?
AND ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT THE
DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE
CONTINUING TO RAISE THE BAR?
>> WELL, I THINK, LOOK, I... I
KNOW THEY HAVE TO BE... THERE
HAS TO BE SOME WINNOWING
PROCESS.
I WILL SAY, I'M NOT SURE THAT
THE DEBATES-- AND I SAY THIS
RESPECTFULLY, HAVING
COMPLIMENTED YOU AND YOUR
COLLEAGUES BEFORE WE WENT ON AIR
ON YOUR CONDUCT OF THE LAST
DEBATE-- I AM HOPING THAT THE
FORMAT CHANGES NOT JUST TO
EXPOSE ALL OF THE CANDIDATES BUT
TO CREATE A... A BETTER VEHICLE
TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE... WITH
THE VOTING PUBLIC BECAUSE WITH
THE EXCEPTION OF... OF THE MOST
RECENT DEBATE, MANY OF THEM HAVE
FELT MORE LIKE A CAGE FIGHT
WHERE THEY WERE... THEY WERE
KIND OF ALMOST, WELL, SMALL
DIFFERENCES FUSSED ABOUT AMONG
THE CANDIDATES INSTEAD OF THE
LARGER QUESTION.
WHICH, TO ME, IS NOT ABOUT THE
CHARACTER OF THE CANDIDATES--
DEMOCRAT OR THE INCUMBENT
PRESIDENT-- IT'S ABOUT THE
CHARACTER OF THE COUNTRY.
AND ONE OF THE REASONS, INDEED,
THE REASON I'M IN IS BECAUSE I
THINK WE SEE A MOMENT RIGHT NOW,
YAMICHE, WHERE THE ANXIETY AND
FRUSTRATION AND EVEN ANGER THAT
PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING ABOUT
THEIR ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL LIVES
IS SO WIDESPREAD, THERE IS AN
OPPORTUNITY THROUGH SOLUTIONS TO
UNITE THE COUNTRY.
AND MY OWN LEADERSHIP EXPERIENCE
BOTH IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR AND IN
THE PRIVATE SECTOR HAS... HAS
BEEN SUCCESSFULLY TO GET PEOPLE
TO TURN TO RATHER THAN ON EACH
OTHER.
AND... AND I THINK IT'S A MOMENT
WE SHOULDN'T MISS.
>> Alcindor: THE HEADLINE FROM
THE LAST DEBATE WAS A FUND-
RAISER IN A WINE CAVE.
YOU'VE HAD A VERY SUCCESSFUL
CAREER IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT BEING
THE HEADLINE?
AND THIS IS A PROBLEM FOR THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY?
>> WELL, I'M SORRY THAT A...
THAT A DEBATE THAT WAS SO
SUBSTANTIVE OTHERWISE HAD A
HEADLINE ABOUT A WINE CAVE.
I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER BEEN IN
A WINE CAVE.
BUT I THINK IT'S KIND OF BESIDE
THE POINT.
YOU KNOW, I THINK MANY, MANY
AMERICANS AGREE WITH ME AND I
THINK MANY OF THE CANDIDATES ON
THE STAGE THAT WE NEED A BETTER
WAY TO FUND OUR POLITICS AND OUR
CAMPAIGNS, THAT THERE'S TOO MUCH
MONEY; IT IS TOO INFLUENTIAL,
ESPECIALLY THE DARK MONEY; AND
THAT WE NEED TO GET THIS OUT OF
OUR... OUT OF OUR POLITICS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, BEYOND THAT, I
THINK THAT THE... THE FACT IS
THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO UNITE
THE COUNTRY, THEN WE NEED TO
FOCUS ON WHAT THE REAL PROBLEMS
ARE.
THERE ARE REAL PROBLEMS
AROUND... AROUND CLIMATE CHANGE,
AROUND CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM,
AROUND HEALTHCARE.
AND THE ISSUE WHEN FOLKS TALK
ABOUT MILLIONAIRES AND
BILLIONAIRES IS NOT WEALTH, IT'S
GREED.
AND WE HAVE CREATED A SYSTEM
THAT ENABLES PEOPLE TO HOARD ALL
THE BENEFITS AMONG A FEW ON THE
THEORY DISCREDITED BY THE WAY
THAT IT WOULD TRICKLE DOWN TO
EVERYBODY ELSE.
AND WE HAVE TO TURN THAT AROUND.
SO, I REGRET THAT HEADLINE FOR A
WHOLE HOST OF REASONS, BUT, TO
ME, IT'S SORT OF BESIDE THE
POINT.
THERE ARE BIGGER ISSUES BEFORE
US, AND MY CAMPAIGN IS ABOUT
THOSE BIGGER, BIGGER ISSUES AND
HOW WE MAKE THE AMERICAN DREAM
ACTUALLY WORK FOR EVERYONE
EVERYWHERE.
>> Alcindor: WELL, THANK YOU SO
MUCH.
DUVAL PATRICK RUNNING FOR
PRESIDENT, FORMER GOVERNOR OF
MASSACHUSETTS.
>> GOOD TO BE WITH YOU.
TAKE CARE.
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