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  • so I remember the first time I interviewed you we were both kind of

  • wandering around downtown Concord you had places to go I was trying to find

  • you and I'm not gonna say you were just a guy because you clearly knew what you

  • were talking about but you've made it a long way from that point what's the

  • what's the biggest change that you've seen since you were essentially

  • wandering the streets of Concord to now being Andrew yang presidential candidate

  • who's on those big debate stages people who knowing who I am that's totally my

  • recollection as well Adam where you know when I came to New Hampshire with the

  • first time most people were completely unfamiliar with me my platform and now

  • the crowds are bigger the Energy's higher the enthusiasm is electric and

  • it's very touching it's very heartening you know as a human being when you see

  • people actually so happy to see you I mean it's very heartwarming and their

  • big rating do you think universal basic income is I mean obviously people like

  • you that's you know your supporters do but is that helped open the door a

  • little bit the fact that hey there's the guy who wants to give me $1,000 a month

  • as a starting point not bad right well it's likely the first thing someone's

  • heard about me in the campaign and then many people initially I think see it as

  • too good to be true or a gimmick or somehow not possible and then when you

  • dig into our history you find that there's a deeply American idea and we

  • can make it a reality if enough let's come together particularly in New

  • Hampshire now people in New Hampshire come together then the freedom dividend

  • will become reality in 2021 so ubi gets you in the door do you feel

  • like you have to raise your game do something different to break through

  • that next level to get up there with Elizabeth Warren Joe Biden Bernie

  • Sanders now in many ways Adam I thinking you've seen the progression it's harder

  • to go from totally anonymous to a fourth bit there six on the polls which I am

  • now by most every measurement to go from fourth to 36 and the polls to first so

  • we're one of the very few campaigns in the field that has been growing

  • consistently and that just continues to accelerate so if we

  • keep on this track we are going to contend for the whole thing and one of

  • the things that's most exciting is that I'm one of only two candidates in the

  • field that 10% or more of Donald Trump voters say they will support so when I

  • am the Democratic nominee we win the whole thing and Democrats have one

  • primary criteria for the nominee and that's beating Donald Trump when they

  • realize that I'm as sure a bet to beat Donald Trump as anyone else in the field

  • you'll see my numbers just grow and grow when we first started talking you

  • weren't a big fan of impeachment when it was back in just the Russia

  • investigation what do you think now that we've seen more come out in particular

  • regards to this whistleblower complaint yes I concluded earlier this week that

  • impeachment was the right way to go because of just the egregious pattern of

  • behavior and that if you have the president literally leaning on a foreign

  • leader to try a kneecap a political rival and then suppress the

  • investigation at some point in Congress had to act and so I believe that it's

  • right to proceed with impeachment hearings I will say though that every

  • moment we're talking about Donald Trump is a victory for Donald Trump and that

  • the challenge that Democrats need to meet is to have our own vision for the

  • country that people will be excited about the vision cannot be we're not

  • Donald Trump we have to solve the problems that actually got Donald Trump

  • into office in 2016 before we wrap up here I've got a question there's a very

  • strong culture around your campaign you know you've got the Gang Gang crowd

  • surfing you see a lot of you online social media there's a real splash there

  • but this thing that happened with this guy from SNL who got hired and then

  • fired over his racial slurs you were saying you know I think canceled culture

  • has gone a little too far talk a little bit about that and explain

  • you know if he didn't cross a line for you then what is the line I guess those

  • were pretty offensive statements yes and he used racial epithets for me

  • specifically as an individual which obviously you know when I first heard of

  • I was like what like who is this person what did he say what just happened

  • and so I sat down with my wife to watch some of his work is coming trying to

  • figure out whether he was malignant and racist or whether he was something else

  • and upon sitting out and watching his work I thought he was a still warming

  • comedian from central Pennsylvania who told some offensive jokes and to me

  • that's not the sort of thing you should lose your job over particularly if you

  • were in that line of work and as the person who was personally insulted I

  • thought well if I think that he should not lose his job then I should certainly

  • say something about that because if anyone should be taking offense it's me

  • but that was after some deliberation and investigation to figure out what I

  • thought of him individually and I think that's where we should be as a country

  • instead of instead of being unduly punitive and vindictive we should be a

  • little bit more forgiving and understanding and try and humanize

  • behaviors that in the abstract we'd find problematic very rational

  • response there sometimes people want a president who will react though get

  • punched in the face they might punch back oh if you punch me in the face I'll

  • punch back I'm not gonna test that but but as you suggested I do think that

  • canceled culture has gone a bit too far and one thing someone said that stuck

  • with me is that if you have a group of people calling for someone to be fired

  • that group of people then moves on a week later but then the person still

  • fired so you know you're in some cases are

  • relatively changing someone's life or career and that lasts for years whereas

  • that satisfaction that you get by calling for it fades away very quickly

  • all right Andrew yang thanks for spending time with us thanks I'm good to

  • see you again we appreciate

so I remember the first time I interviewed you we were both kind of

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ポッドキャスト「The Trail」。候補者カフェイベント後の弾劾審問に対応するアンドリュー・ヤン ('The Trail' podcast: Andrew Yang addresses impeachment inquiry after 'Candidate Cafe' event)

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