BUT FIRST CHAD PERGRAM KEEPING

TRACK OF A BUSY DAY.

AS SOON AS NANCY PELOSI

FINISHED HER COMMENT YOU SHOT

AN EMAIL TO ALL OF OUR

COLLEAGUES AT FOX SAYING

PROCEED WITH CAUTION.

WHAT ARE YOU READING BETWEEN

THE LINES THAT WE DON'T SEE?

>> WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE

ABOUT NANCY PELOSI IS THAT A

LOT OF HER PUBLIC STATEMENTS

ARE NOT MEANT FOR THE PUBLIC

AND REPORTERS, THEY ARE MEANT

FOR HER MEMBERS.

WHAT I WAS STRUCK BY IN HER

REMARKS IS WHAT SHE DIDN'T SAY.

SHE DID NOT LAY OUT A

TIMETABLE, SHE DIDN'T SAY WE'LL

DO IT BY CHRISTMAS.

THERE WAS NO NEWS FLASH IN THIS

STATEMENT.

THIS WAS KIND OF A PLACE HOLDER

TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE

WORKING ON IMPEACHMENT.

WHEN YOU DEAL WITH NANCY

PELOSI, THE SPEAKER OF THE

HOUSE AND YOU FILET HER

STATEMENTS THERE IS A LITTLE

ZEN IN WHAT SHE SAYS.

WE'RE FORGING AHEAD BUT NOT

FORGING AHEAD.

WE'RE GOING FORWARD BUT NOT

GOING FORWARD RIGHT NOU. I'VE

BEEN TOLD REPEATEDLY BY SENIOR

DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP SOURCES

THEY THINK IT MIGHT BE A CRUNCH

TO TRY TO DO THIS BY

CHRISTMASTIME.

SO WHEN SHE SAYS WE'RE GOING TO

HAVE THE CHAIRMAN START WORKING

ON ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT,

NOTHING NEW THERE.

HERE IS THE KEY PHRASE I WAS

STRUCK BY IN HER REMARKS.

WE'LL PROCEED IN A MANNER

WORTHY OF OUR OATH OF OFFICE.

JERRY NADLER THE CHAIR OF THE

COMMITTEE SAID LAST NIGHT WE'LL

HAVE MORE HEARINGS PLURAL.

I SAID DO YOU MEAN THAT PLURAL.

HE DIDN'T RESPOND.

WHAT THEY WOULD AT LEAST HAVE

TO HAVE AT SOME POINT IS A

MARK-UP SESSION WHERE THEY

WRITE THE ARTICLES OF

IMPEACHMENT, OPEN SESSION.

YOU WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO HAVE

A COUPLE THREE DAYS OF DEBATE

ON THE HOUSE FLOOR ENGAGING ALL

CURRENTLY 431 MEMBERS OF THE

HOUSE.

YOU JUST CAN'T DO THAT IN AN

HOUR OR TWO.

AND TO DO THAT, BILL, BEFORE

CHRISTMASTIME AND DO IT IN AN

EARNEST FASHION WHERE THEY ARE

GIVING THE GRAVITY TO THIS,

THAT WILL BE TOUGH, BILL.

>> Bill: 19 DAYS FROM

CHRISTMAS, CHAD.

WE POINTED OUT A LOT IN 1998,

IT WAS DECEMBER 19th WHEN THE

HOUSE VOTED AND PASSED TO

IMPEACH BILL CLINTON.

>> THEY ALSO DIDN'T HAVE TO

FUND THE GOVERNMENT.

THIS YEAR THE GOVERNMENT

SHUTDOWN DATE IS 11:59 ON THE

20th.

THE DEMOCRATS CANNOT HAVE A

GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN WHILE

THEY'RE DOING IMPEACHMENT OR

REPUBLICANS WILL SAY LOOK, YOU

ARE TOO FOCUSED ON IMPEACHMENT

AND NOT DOING THE BASICS OF

GOVERNMENT WORK

>> Sandra: BEFORE WE LET YOU GO

WE HAD DAN KILDEE ON FROM

MICHIGAN A DEMOCRAT IN THE

HOUSE REACTING TO NANCY PELOSI

AT THE TOP OF THE HOUR.

HE WOULD NOT COMMIT TO WHETHER

OR NOT HE WOULD BE A YES ON A

VOTE FOR IMPEACHMENT IF IT WERE

HELD TODAY.

HE SAID HE WILL WAIT TO SEE

WHAT THE ARTICLES OF

IMPEACHMENT ARE.

BILL AND I HAVE INTERVIEWED

SEVERAL DEMOCRATS ON THIS

PROGRAM IN RECENT DAYS AFTER

MORE THAN 30 HOURS OF TESTIMONY

IN THE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE

COMMITTEE.

THE PUBLIC HEARING IN THE

JUDICIARY THIS WEEK.

SOME WILL COMMIT.

BUT SOME WILL NOT COMMIT TO

THAT.

>> Bill: THERE IS A LOT OF

HESITANCY IN THE POINT SANDRA

IS MAKING.

THE QUESTION IS WHY WOULD THEY

NOT GIVE YOU A YES OR NOT AT

THIS POINT?

>> CONGRESSMAN KILDEE IS SPOT

ON.

THEY HAVE TO SEE WHAT THE

ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT ARE.

IS IT ABUSE OF POWER, BRIBERY?

REMEMBER IN 1998 YOU REF

INTERFERENCEED DECEMBER 19th

WHEN THEY IMPEACHED PRESIDENT

CLINTON.

FOUR ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT ON

THE FLOOR.

THE HOUSE ONLY APPROVED TWO.

YOU COULD SEE A SCENARIO AND

THREE TO FOUR ARTICLES IS WHAT

THEY'LL NARROW IT DOWN TO WHERE

SOME MEMBERS VOTE YES ON SOME,

SOME VOTE NO.

YOU MIGHT ONLY HAVE AN ARTICLE

OR TWO APPROVED ON THE HOUSE

FLOOR.

IF HISTORY IS OUR GUIDE THAT'S

PROBABLY WHAT HAPPENS AND YOU

WOULD HAVE SOME DEMOCRATS,

SOMEONE LIKE DAN KILDEE VOTING

NO IF THEY DON'T SEE IT IN

THEIR WHEEL HOUSE.

>> Sandra: AT THE END OF YOUR

NOTE YOU TALK ABOUT DEMOCRATS

IF THEY WERE TO TAKE THIS

THROUGH THE HOLIDAYS AND INTO

JANUARY WHAT IT WOULD DO TO

MOMENTUM AND IF IT WOULD CHANGE

THE PROCESS.

AND CHANGE ANY MINDS.

>> RIGHT, DEMOCRATS STUCK

TOGETHER OVER THE THANKSGIVING

HOLIDAY.

THERE WAS SOME THOUGHT MAYBE

WHEN THEY WENT AWAY FOR

THANKSGIVING THIS COULD LOSE

SPEED.

IT ABSOLUTELY DIDN'T.

THAT'S WHY WHEN THEY CAME BACK

SOME OF THE CALCULUS THEY'LL

HAVE TO WEIGH NOW, DOES PUTTING

IT OFF INTO JANUARY, A

POSSIBILITY.

WILL THAT SLOW THINGS DOWN?

MOST OF THE DEMOCRATS HELD

TOGETHER OVER THANKSGIVING THAT

SIGNALS IT WON'T SLOW DOWN IF

THEY LET IT DRIFT PAST