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RENOVATIONS AND SURROUNDED BY MEDAL SCAFFOLDING.
MEDAL SCAFFOLDING. >>> THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT
>>> THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT WALL IS RUNNING INTO ANOTHER
WALL IS RUNNING INTO ANOTHER SNAG.
SNAG. LANDOWNERS IN TEXAS.
LANDOWNERS IN TEXAS. JULIA AINSLEY JOINS ME.
JULIA AINSLEY JOINS ME. YOU'VE BEEN REPORTING ON THE
YOU'VE BEEN REPORTING ON THE BORDER FOR A LONG TIME NOW AND
BORDER FOR A LONG TIME NOW AND THAT WALL FOR A LONG TIME NOW.
THAT WALL FOR A LONG TIME NOW. THE PRESIDENT HAS HIT A FEW
THE PRESIDENT HAS HIT A FEW ROADBLOCKS ALONG THE WAY.
ROADBLOCKS ALONG THE WAY. WHAT'S GOING ON WITH PRIVATE
WHAT'S GOING ON WITH PRIVATE LANDS IN TEXAS?
LANDS IN TEXAS? >> Reporter: IT'S INTERESTING.
>> Reporter: IT'S INTERESTING. THESE ARE ROADBLOCKS PEOPLE CAME
THESE ARE ROADBLOCKS PEOPLE CAME UP WHEN HE TALKED ABOUT THE
UP WHEN HE TALKED ABOUT THE WALL.
WALL. TEXAS HAS THE LARGEST AMOUNT OF
TEXAS HAS THE LARGEST AMOUNT OF LAND ON THE BORDER THAT IS
LAND ON THE BORDER THAT IS PRIVATELY OWNED.
PRIVATELY OWNED. THESE ARE LANDOWNERS WHO ARE
THESE ARE LANDOWNERS WHO ARE TRYING TO HOLD ONTO THEIR OWN
TRYING TO HOLD ONTO THEIR OWN LAND BEFORE THE GOVERNMENT COMES
LAND BEFORE THE GOVERNMENT COMES AND TAKES IT AWAY THROUGH
AND TAKES IT AWAY THROUGH IMMINENT DOMAIN.
IMMINENT DOMAIN. ONE ROUTE THE GOVERNOR HAS IS TO
ONE ROUTE THE GOVERNOR HAS IS TO GO AHEAD AND START BUILDING AND
GO AHEAD AND START BUILDING AND THEN NEGOTIATE IN COURT LATER
THEN NEGOTIATE IN COURT LATER THE AMOUNT THEY WILL BE PAID.
THE AMOUNT THEY WILL BE PAID. IN ORDER TO DO THAT, THEY HAVE
IN ORDER TO DO THAT, THEY HAVE TO ARGUE THIS IS A MATTER OF A
TO ARGUE THIS IS A MATTER OF A NATIONAL EMERGENCY.
NATIONAL EMERGENCY. ONE LAWYER I SPOKE TO WHO'S
ONE LAWYER I SPOKE TO WHO'S REPRESENTING A CLIENT WITH LAND
REPRESENTING A CLIENT WITH LAND ON THE BORDER SAID HIS CLIENT
ON THE BORDER SAID HIS CLIENT HAS BEEN IN A COURT BATTLE OVER
HAS BEEN IN A COURT BATTLE OVER PROTECTING HIS LAND SINCE 2008
PROTECTING HIS LAND SINCE 2008 WHEN THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION
WHEN THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION TRIED TO ACQUIRE IT FOR A
TRIED TO ACQUIRE IT FOR A SIMILAR PURPOSE.
SIMILAR PURPOSE. THE PRESIDENT WON'T BE ABLE TO
THE PRESIDENT WON'T BE ABLE TO MAKE GOOD ON HIS PROMISE TO
MAKE GOOD ON HIS PROMISE TO BUILD 450 MILES OF BORDER
BUILD 450 MILES OF BORDER WITHOUT UNLESS THEY CAN SEIZE
WITHOUT UNLESS THEY CAN SEIZE THE LAND WITH IMMINENT DOMAIN.
THE LAND WITH IMMINENT DOMAIN. THEY'RE ALREADY RUNNING INTO A
THEY'RE ALREADY RUNNING INTO A LOT OF ISSUES IN COURT AND IT
LOT OF ISSUES IN COURT AND IT COULD DRAG OUT THAT TIMELINE.
COULD DRAG OUT THAT TIMELINE. AS FOR THE LANDOWNERS
AS FOR THE LANDOWNERS THEMSELVES, IF THE GOVERNMENT
THEMSELVES, IF THE GOVERNMENT DOES MAKE THE CASE THIS IS A
DOES MAKE THE CASE THIS IS A MATTER OF A NATIONAL EMERGENCY,
MATTER OF A NATIONAL EMERGENCY, THEN THE LANDOWNERS MAY HAVE TO
THEN THE LANDOWNERS MAY HAVE TO GIVE IT TO THE GOVERNMENT.
GIVE IT TO THE GOVERNMENT. >> THERE WAS AN EFFORT TO USE
>> THERE WAS AN EFFORT TO USE D.O.D. FUNDING TO HELP PAY FOR
D.O.D. FUNDING TO HELP PAY FOR THE COST OF THE WALL.
THE COST OF THE WALL. THAT WAS STRUCK DOWN IN COURT.
THAT WAS STRUCK DOWN IN COURT. >> IT COMES BACK TO THE ARGUMENT
>> IT COMES BACK TO THE ARGUMENT OF NATIONAL EMERGENCY.
OF NATIONAL EMERGENCY. THEY COULDN'T USE THAT D.O.D.
THEY COULDN'T USE THAT D.O.D. MONEY BECAUSE IT WASN'T IN THE
MONEY BECAUSE IT WASN'T IN THE INTEREST OF NATIONAL SECURITY.
INTEREST OF NATIONAL SECURITY. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE ADMINISTRATION ISN'T GOING
ADMINISTRATION ISN'T GOING FORWARD WITH OTHER MONEY THAT'S
FORWARD WITH OTHER MONEY THAT'S BEEN ALLOCATED AND THAT THEY'RE
BEEN ALLOCATED AND THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING FORWARD WITH SEIZING
NOT GOING FORWARD WITH SEIZING THE LAND THEY WOULD NEED TO THEN
THE LAND THEY WOULD NEED TO THEN CONSTRUCT.
CONSTRUCT. THAT COULD BE ANOTHER HINDRANCE
THAT COULD BE ANOTHER HINDRANCE AS THEY START TO SECURE
AS THEY START TO SECURE CONTRACTS AND FIND PEOPLE WHO
CONTRACTS AND FIND PEOPLE WHO WILL BUILD THIS WALL AS THEY
WILL BUILD THIS WALL AS THEY SECURE THE LAND IN THE FUTURE.
SECURE THE LAND IN THE FUTURE. >> YOU'VE REPORTED ON THIS
>> YOU'VE REPORTED ON THIS INVESTIGATION BY THE PENTAGON'S
INVESTIGATION BY THE PENTAGON'S INTERNAL WATCHDOG INTO THE
INTERNAL WATCHDOG INTO THE ALLOCATION OF A $400 MILLION
ALLOCATION OF A $400 MILLION CONTRACT TO A COMPANY THE
CONTRACT TO A COMPANY THE PRESIDENT HAS BEEN TOUTING ALONG
PRESIDENT HAS BEEN TOUTING ALONG THE WAY.
THE WAY. >> THE NAME OF THE COMPANY IS
>> THE NAME OF THE COMPANY IS FISHER SAND AND GRAVEL.
FISHER SAND AND GRAVEL. THEY'RE OUT OF NORTH DAKOTA AND
THEY'RE OUT OF NORTH DAKOTA AND THEY'RE RELATIVELY SMALL.
THEY'RE RELATIVELY SMALL. THEY HAVE BEEN CAMPAIGNING TO
THEY HAVE BEEN CAMPAIGNING TO TRY TO GET A CONTRACT TO BUILD
TRY TO GET A CONTRACT TO BUILD PART OF THE WALL.
PART OF THE WALL. THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF THAT
THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF THAT THROUGH SENATOR KRAMER OF NORTH
THROUGH SENATOR KRAMER OF NORTH DAKOTA.
DAKOTA. WE UNDERSTAND THAT KRAMER'S
WE UNDERSTAND THAT KRAMER'S OFFICE TALKED TO THE WHITE HOUSE
OFFICE TALKED TO THE WHITE HOUSE AND THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF TOLD
AND THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF TOLD HIS ADVISORS AND PEOPLE IN THE
HIS ADVISORS AND PEOPLE IN THE DEFENSE DEPARTMENT THAT HE
DEFENSE DEPARTMENT THAT HE WANTED FISHER SAND AND GRAVEL TO
WANTED FISHER SAND AND GRAVEL TO BE CHOSEN AS ONE OF THE WINNERS
BE CHOSEN AS ONE OF THE WINNERS OF THIS CONTRACT.
OF THIS CONTRACT. THEY HAD TO REMIND THE PRESIDENT
THEY HAD TO REMIND THE PRESIDENT THAT IS NOT THE WAY THE FEDERAL
THAT IS NOT THE WAY THE FEDERAL PROCUREMENT PROCESS WORKS.
PROCUREMENT PROCESS WORKS. YOU CANNOT PICK A WINNER, MR.
YOU CANNOT PICK A WINNER, MR. PRESIDENT.
PRESIDENT. FISHER SIMPLY DID NOT HAVE THE
FISHER SIMPLY DID NOT HAVE THE RESOURCES TO COME FORWARD AND
RESOURCES TO COME FORWARD AND WIN ONE OF THOSE CONTRACTS, BUT
WIN ONE OF THOSE CONTRACTS, BUT IN EARLY DECEMBER THEY DID WIN
IN EARLY DECEMBER THEY DID WIN ONE OF THOSE CONTRACTS FOR $400
ONE OF THOSE CONTRACTS FOR $400 MILLION TO BUILD 35 MILES OF
MILLION TO BUILD 35 MILES OF WALL ALONG THE BORDER IN TEXAS.
WALL ALONG THE BORDER IN TEXAS. THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE
THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE WATCHDOG IS LOOKING INTO HOW
WATCHDOG IS LOOKING INTO HOW THIS CONTRACT WAS AWARDED, IF IT
THIS CONTRACT WAS AWARDED, IF IT WAS DONE PROPERLY OR MAYBE THERE
WAS DONE PROPERLY OR MAYBE THERE WAS SOME OUTSIDE INFLUENCE.
WAS SOME OUTSIDE INFLUENCE. THE GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABILITY
THE GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABILITY OFFICE HAS ALSO NOW BEEN ASKED
OFFICE HAS ALSO NOW BEEN ASKED TO LOOK INTO THE SAME CONTRACT.
TO LOOK INTO THE SAME CONTRACT. >> HE SAID HE WANTS TO BUILD 450
>> HE SAID HE WANTS TO BUILD 450 MILES OF WALL NEXT YEAR.
MILES OF WALL NEXT YEAR. HOW LIKELY IS IT THAT HE'S GOING
HOW LIKELY IS IT THAT HE'S GOING TO HAVE THAT TO SHOW FOR HIMSELF
TO HAVE THAT TO SHOW FOR HIMSELF AS HE CONTINUES TO CAMPAIGN?
AS HE CONTINUES TO CAMPAIGN? >> IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE HOW THAT
>> IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE HOW THAT GETS DONE.
GETS DONE. I UNDERSTAND ONCE YOU HAVE A
I UNDERSTAND ONCE YOU HAVE A CONTRACT, SOMETHING LIKE THIS
CONTRACT, SOMETHING LIKE THIS CAN BE BUILT IN A MATTER OF
CAN BE BUILT IN A MATTER OF MONTHS.
MONTHS. WE'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT THE
WE'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT THE COURT CHALLENGES ON THE FEDERAL
COURT CHALLENGES ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL IN TERMS OF FUNDING, THE
LEVEL IN TERMS OF FUNDING, THE CIVIL LAWSUITS OVER HOW MUCH THE
CIVIL LAWSUITS OVER HOW MUCH THE GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO PAY, WHETHER
GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO PAY, WHETHER OR NOT THEY CAN SEIZE THAT LAND
OR NOT THEY CAN SEIZE THAT LAND UNTIL THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY IS
UNTIL THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY IS NEGOTIATED BETWEEN THE LANDOWNER
NEGOTIATED BETWEEN THE LANDOWNER AND THE GOVERNMENT.
AND THE GOVERNMENT. THE PRESIDENT HAS BEEN IN OFFICE
THE PRESIDENT HAS BEEN IN OFFICE SINCE 2017 AND ALREADY WE HAVE
SINCE 2017 AND ALREADY WE HAVE ONLY SEEN MAYBE ABOUT NINE MILES
ONLY SEEN MAYBE ABOUT NINE MILES OF ACTUAL NEW BORDER WALL.
OF ACTUAL NEW BORDER WALL. WHAT THE PRESIDENT TWEETS ABOUT,
WHAT THE PRESIDENT TWEETS ABOUT, THOSE VIDEOS YOU SEE, THAT'S
THOSE VIDEOS YOU SEE, THAT'S USUALLY REPLACEMENT OR REPAIR OF
USUALLY REPLACEMENT OR REPAIR OF EXISTING BORDER BARRIER WHICH IS
EXISTING BORDER BARRIER WHICH IS MUCH EASIER TO DO.
MUCH EASIER TO DO. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE
YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE LEGAL PROCESS TO ACQUIRE NEW
LEGAL PROCESS TO ACQUIRE NEW LAND.
LAND. I DON'T LIKE TO RULE ANYTHING
I DON'T LIKE TO RULE ANYTHING OUT, BUT IT WOULD BE A
OUT, BUT IT WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGE TO MEET
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