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  • WITH THE FORMER NATIONAL

  • SECURITY ADVISOR JOHN BOLTON.

  • >> Dana: HAVE A GOOD TIME DOWN

  • THERE.

  • THANK YOU.

  • LET'S BRING IN TREY GOWDY,

  • FORMER HOUSE OVERSIGHT CHAIRMAN

  • AND FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR.

  • GREAT TO HAVE YOU.

  • LET ME START BY ASKING DO YOU

  • AGREE WITH THE WHITE HOUSE THAT

  • IT'S UNTENABLE FOR THE SPEAKER

  • TO HOLD THE ARTICLES OF

  • IMPEACHMENT AT THE HOUSE AND

  • NEVER SEND THEM TO THE SENATE?

  • >> IF HE REALLY IS AN

  • EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO THE

  • REPUBLIC, IF HE REALLY IS

  • COMMITTED CONDUCT THAT SHOULD

  • RESULT IN HIS REMOVAL FROM

  • OFFICE, THEN WHY WOULD YOU NOT

  • GO AHEAD AND SEND IT ON TO THE

  • SENATE?

  • THE CONSTITUTION GIVES THE HOUSE

  • NO ROLE IN DECIDING HOW THE

  • TRIAL TAKES PLACE.

  • IT'S EXCLUSIVELY WITHIN THE

  • PROVINCE OF THE SENATE.

  • I THINK MOST OF MY FELLOW

  • CITIZENS WILL SEE THROUGH THIS

  • LET'S HURRY UP AND IMPEACH HIM

  • AND THEN SIT ON THE INDICTMENT

  • FOR GOD KNOWS HOW LONG.

  • I THINK MOST PEOPLE ARE SMART

  • ENOUGH TO SEE THROUGH IT.

  • >> Dana: ONE OF THE THINGS SHE

  • IS SAYING IS THAT THE SENATE AND

  • MITCH McCONNELL HAVE NOT

  • PROVEN THAT IT COULD BE A FAIR

  • TRIAL.

  • LISTEN TO SENATOR DICK DURBIN OF

  • ILLINOIS.

  • >> THINGS HAVE GONE TOO FAR.

  • HOW CAN THEY HOLD THEIR HANDS UP

  • AND SAY I SWEAR IMPARTIAL

  • JUSTICE THAN I WOULD LIKE TO SIT

  • AT THE MANAGERS TABLE WITH THE

  • PRESIDENT'S TEAM?

  • YOU CAN'T DO IT.

  • THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE IT.

  • >> Dana: MAJORITY LEADER

  • MITCH McCONNELL WAS OUT AND

  • ABOUT THIS MORNING AND THIS IS

  • WHAT HE HAD TO SAY.

  • >> ON THE IMPARTIALITY ISSUE, DO

  • YOU THINK CHUCK SCHUMER IS

  • IMPARTIAL?

  • DO YOU THINK ELSBETH WARREN IS

  • IMPARTIAL, BERNIE SANDERS?

  • LET'S QUIT THE CHARADE.

  • IT'S A POLITICAL EXERCISE.

  • POLITICAL EXERCISE.

  • ALL I'M ASKING OF SCHUMER IS

  • THAT WE TREAT TRUMP THE SAME WAY

  • WE TREATED CLINTON.

  • >> Dana: ONE OF THE PROBLEMS

  • IN ALL OF THIS IS THE LANGUAGE

  • IS THE SAME.

  • YOU'VE TRIED CASES IN COURTROOMS

  • WHERE THE TRIAL LOOKS VERY

  • DIFFERENT FROM WHAT A SENATE

  • TRIAL WOULD LOOK LIKE.

  • >> I WISH THIS WERE A JUDICIAL

  • PROCEEDING BUT KEEP IN MIND IF

  • IT WERE, ADAM SCHIFF WOULD NOT

  • OF BEEN LEADING THE

  • INVESTIGATION.

  • 60 HOUSE DEMOCRATS WOULDN'T HAVE

  • MADE UP THEIR MINDS FOR THE

  • FIRST SYLLABLE OF THE MUELLER

  • REPORT.

  • ERIC SWALWELL INVESTIGATING THE

  • PRESIDENT WHILE HE WAS TRYING TO

  • BECOME THE PRESIDENT.

  • YOU WOULD NEVER HAVE THAT IN A

  • REAL JUDICIAL PROCEEDING.

  • I WISH IT WERE LIKE A JUDICIAL

  • PROCEEDING.

  • IT'S NOT.

  • THE JURY HAS ALREADY MADE UP ITS

  • MIND.

  • EVEN DICK DURBIN WHO IS NOW

  • CALLING FOR IMPARTIALITY, HAS

  • ALREADY PASSED JUDGMENT ON THE

  • CREDIBILITY THE WITNESSES.

  • HE SAID THE PRESIDENT CONDUCT

  • WAS BENEATH THE DIGNITY OF THE

  • OFFICE AND HE WAS INCREDIBLE HE

  • TROUBLED BY IT.

  • THAT DOES NOT SOUND LIKE AN

  • IMPARTIAL, OBJECTIVE,

  • DISPASSIONATE JUROR.

  • HOW MANY OF THE SENATORS, HOW

  • MANY MEMBERS OF THE JURY ARE

  • ACTUALLY RUNNING TO TAKE

  • DONALD TRUMP'S JOB?

  • HE WOULD NEVER HAVE THAT IN A

  • REAL JUDICIAL PROCEEDING.

  • MITCH McCONNELL IS RIGHT.

  • THIS IS A POLITICAL TRIAL, NOT A

  • JUDICIAL TRIAL.

  • IF IT WERE A JUDICIAL TRIAL,

  • NONE OF WHAT'S HAPPENED UP TO

  • THIS POINT ROAD TAKEN PLACE.

  • >> Dana: WE HAD THE HOROWITZ

  • REPORT.

  • VERY CRITICAL OF THE FBI AND

  • PUTTING IN DOUBT THE FUTURE OF

  • FISA AND THE FISA COURT.

  • TAKE A LISTEN TO LINDSEY GRAHAM

  • YESTERDAY ON THAT ISSUE.

  • >> WE ARE GOING TO LOOK LONG AND

  • HARD AT FISA ABUSE.

  • WE ARE GOING TO PASS LAWS TO

  • MAKE SURE THIS NEVER HAPPENS

  • AGAIN.

  • ACCOUNTABILITY WILL ONLY BE

  • SUCCESSFUL IF SOMEBODY GETS

  • FIRED AND I AM LOOKING AT

  • CHRISTOPHER WRAY TO FIRE

  • SOMEBODY AT THE FBI.

  • SOMEBODY NEEDS TO GO TO JAIL AND

  • I'M LOOKING AT DURHAM THE WHOLE

  • PEOPLE CRIMINALLY ACCOUNTABLE

  • FOR THE LOSS THEY BROKE.

  • >> Dana: WHAT DO YOU THINK OF

  • WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO FISA?

  • DO YOU THINK IT'S STILL A

  • NECESSARY TOOL FOR

  • LAW ENFORCEMENT?

  • >> I DO THINK IT'S A NECESSARY

  • TOOL.

  • I THINK THE POLICIES ARE ONLY AS

  • GOOD AS THE PEOPLE IMPLEMENTING

  • THEM.

  • 2018 HOUSE REPUBLICANS WROTE THE

  • FISA COURT AND WE ALSO RAISED

  • ISSUES WITH THE PROCESS.

  • THE D.C. MEDIA SAID IN THERE,

  • THE CRAZY HOUSE REPUBLICANS HAVE

  • A PROBLEM WITH FISA.

  • DONALD TRUMP ON THE MORNING WE

  • WERE GOING TO VOTE TO

  • REAUTHORIZE THE SURVEILLANCE

  • PROGRAM SENT OUT A VERY NEGATIVE

  • TWEET WHICH REQUIRED POMPEO TO

  • RUN TO THE WHITE HOUSE AND TRY

  • TO FIX IT.

  • THE REPUBLICANS ARE ALREADY

  • SKITTISH ABOUT THE SURVEILLANCE

  • PROGRAMS.

  • IF THE COURT AND THE MEDIA AND

  • THE DEMOCRATS DO NOT TAKE

  • HORWITZ'S REPORT SERIOUSLY.

  • LINDSEY GRAHAM MAY BE THE MOST

  • HAWKISH MEMBER OF THE SENATE

  • WHEN IT COMES TO NATIONAL

  • SECURITY.

  • IF HE IS TROUBLED BY IT, THEN

  • IMAGINE WHERE RAND PAUL AND SOME

  • OF THE OTHER REPUBLICANS.

  • >> Dana: LET'S GET YOUR

  • THOUGHTS ABOUT JOHN DURHAM, U.S.

  • ATTORNEY TASKED WITH THE OVERALL

  • REPORT OF THE WHOLE RUSSIA

  • INVESTIGATION AND HOW IT BEGAN.

  • HE DOESN'T JUST LOOK AT DOJ.

  • HE LOOKS ACROSS THE BOARD AT THE

  • INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES AND MORE.

  • THERE'S AN ARTICLE IN

  • "THE NEW YORK TIMES" TODAY

  • BASICALLY QUESTIONING SHOULD

  • HAVE WAITED ON THE HOROWITZ

  • REPORT AND ATTORNEY KEVIN

  • O'CONNOR, YOU MIGHT KNOW HIM.

  • HE IS FROM CONNECTICUT.

  • HE SAID IT'S FAIR TO

  • CHARACTERIZE WHAT JOHN DURHAM

  • DID AS UNUSUAL IN TERMS OF ITS

  • PAST PRACTICE.

  • I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RATIONALE

  • WAS BUT I KNOW JOHN WELL ENOUGH

  • TO KNOW HE DID IT BECAUSE HE,

  • NOT THE AG OR ANYONE ELSE,

  • THOUGHT HE HAD AN OBLIGATION TO.

  • THIS WAS WHEN DURHAM SAID I

  • DON'T NECESSARILY AGREE OR DON'T

  • AGREE WITH THE CONCLUSIONS OF

  • THE HOROWITZ REPORT HE WANTED TO

  • GET THAT OUT THERE.

  • YOUR THOUGHTS.

  • >> I THINK PROSECUTORS ARE IN A

  • TOUGH SPOT.

  • YOU WANT TO MAINTAIN

  • CONFIDENTIALITY OF YOUR

  • INVESTIGATION WHICH YOU CAN

  • ALLOW SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO

  • PERSUADE THE PUBLIC TO BE

  • IMPRINTED IN THEIR CONSCIOUSNESS

  • BEFORE YOU ISSUE THE REPORT.

  • IT'S A CLOSE CALL.

  • KEEP IN MIND HORWITZ, BARR, AND

  • DURHAM.

  • THE DIFFERENCE IN WHAT THEY ARE

  • STAYING IS MEASURED IN INCHES,

  • NOT YARDS.

  • ORAL WEIGHTS SAYING THERE WAS

  • ENOUGH TO LAUNCH A FULL

  • INVESTIGATION.

  • DURHAM IS SAYING IT WAS ENOUGH

  • TO START A LIMITED INVESTIGATION

  • BUT NOT THE FULL INVESTIGATION

  • AND BARR IS SAYING I'M NOT SURE

  • IT WAS ENOUGH TO DO THAT.

  • THIS IS A DRUNKEN CONVERSATION

  • IN A BAR.

  • THE THRESHOLD TO START AN

  • INVESTIGATION IS EXCEEDINGLY

  • LOW.

  • THESE THREE GUYS ALL OF WHOM I

  • HAVE RESPECT FOR OUR JUST

  • VIEWING IT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY

  • ON WHETHER OR NOT THE PAUCITY OF

  • EVIDENCE WAS ENOUGH TO DO WHAT

  • THEY DID.

  • >> Dana: BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I

  • UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU MEANT ABOUT

  • BEING MEASURED IN INCHES AND NOT

  • YARDS.

  • IT IS FOOTBALL SEASON AFTER ALL

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