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>> WHEN YOU HAVE HALF A MILLION
AMERICANS SLEEPING OUT ON THE
STREET TODAY, AND THEN YOU ALSO
HAVE THREE PEOPLE OWNING MORE
WEALTH THAN THE BOTTOM HALF OF
AMERICAN SOCIETY, THAT IS A
MORAL AND ECONOMIC OUTRAGE.
SO IF YOU'RE ASKING ME, DO I
THINK WE SHOULD DEMAND THAT THE
WEALTHY START PAYING THE,
WEALTHIEST TOP .1 OF 1%, START
PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE OF
TAXES, YES, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT
I BELIEVE.
>> TAXING INCOME IS NOT GOING TO
GET YOU WHERE YOU NEED TO BE TO
WHERE TAXING WEALTH DOES.
WE NEED A WEALTH TAX TO MAKE
INVESTMENTS IN THE NEXT
GENERATION.
BRIAN: THAT IS ONE WAY TO PAY
FOR IT.
MIKE ROWE, TV HOST, AUTHOR OF A
BRAND NEW BOOK, CALLED, THE WAY
I HEARD IT, JOINS US LIVE RIGHT
NOW.
MIKE, YOU WERE TRAVELING,
PROMOTING YOUR BRAND NEW BOOK.
>> TERRIBLY BUSY.
STEVE: ON HIS RADIO SHOW.
>> NOT THAT BUSY.
STEVE: BERNIE WANT AS 97% TAX
RATE ON THE 400 RICHEST
AMERICANS.
HE HAS BIG PLANS WITH A BIG
PRICE TAG.
>> OKAY.
YEAH, FREE COUNTRY, IDEAS, FLOAT
THEM, FLY THEM, RUN UP THE OLD
FLAGPOLE, SEE WHO SALUTES.
IN THE END MILLIONAIRES ARGUING
WITH MILLIONAIRES OVER WHO HATES
THE MILLIONAIRES THE MOST.
STEVE: RIGHT.
>> I GUESS IT'S A CONVERSATION
WE'LL HAVE BUT, I REMEMBER A
COUPLE YEARS AGO I TOOK MY, MY
MEAGER STAFF OVER TO THE REAGAN
RANCH.
IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN --
STEVE: BEAUTIFUL.
>> IT IS TERRIFIC, ONE OF THE
STORIES THEY TELL IS THE TIME
WHEN RONALD REAGAN JUST FINALLY
DECIDED HE WAS DONE DOING
MOVIES.
HE WAS JUST DONE BECAUSE HE WAS
PAYING 92% OF EVERY DOLLAR HE
MADE ON FILMS.
IT WAS JUST MATH.
HE WASN'T DONE ACTING, IT WAS
MATH.
DID BASIC CALCULUS.
MAKES NO SENSE TO DO THIS.
AINSLEY: WEALTHIEST PEOPLE WILL
SAY I'M NOT WORKING ANYMORE?
>> I LIVE IN CALIFORNIA.
I JUST READ A REPORT THAT SAID
THE, THE EXODUS THIS YEAR AS A
RESULT OF 13 1/2% STATE TAX AND
SOME OTHER TWEAKS TO THE SYSTEM
IS UNLIKE ANYTHING THEY HAVE
EVER SEEN BEFORE.
I KNOW ITS CONVENIENT.
IT IS FUN TO HATE THE RICH AND
ALL, IN THE END, THEY'RE JUST
PEOPLE.
THEY ARE GOING TO DO THE MATH,
THEY WILL GO WHERE THE MATH IS
BETTER.
BRIAN: THIS IS WHAT I THOUGHT
ABOUT YOU DURING THE DEBATE,
GUARANTEED INCOME.
TWO OR THREE CANDIDATES SAYING
GET $1000, AUTOMATION IS HERE.
YOU'RE NOT GETTING A JOB.
GIVE PEOPLE $1000.
>> WHY NOT MORE?
BRIAN: YOU HANG OUT WITH PEOPLE
THAT WORK FOR A LIVING, YOU FIND
OUT ABOUT THEIR JOBS, DIRTY JOBS
IS WHEN YOU REALLY EMERGED, WHEN
YOU SEE PEOPLE GIVE MONEY AWAY,
WHAT DOES IT DO TO THE
SELF-ESTEEM WHEN YOU GET
SOMETHING FOR FREE?
>> YOU CAN'T IGNORE THE HUMAN
CONDITION CONDITION.
WE'RE FUNDAMENTALLY LAZY PEOPLE.
WE HAVE TO BE TAUGHT, I THINK
NOT TO BE LAZY.
BRIAN: DON'T CALL AINSLEY THAT.
I DON'T MIND IF YOU CALL ME
THAT.
>> I'M CALLING YOU FUNDAMENTAL.
BRIAN: THAT IS WORSE.
>> IF YOU GIVE ME A CHOICE, I
DON'T SEE MYSELF AS LAZY, IF YOU
GIVE ME A CHOICE OF THE EASY WAY
OR THE HARD WAY.
I CAN'T HELP IT, I WILL DEFAULT
TO THE EASY WAY.
STEVE: FREE MONEY?
I WANT IT.
>> MY ONLY CONCERN, NOT ONLY
CONCERN, THAT KIND OF ARGUING WE
DISCUSSED YESTERDAY AND JUST
NOW.
ONCE YOU SAY OKAY, FREE MONEY,
THE NEXT QUESTION HAS TO BE, WHY
NOT MORE?
AND THAT'S THE BEEF WITH THE
5,000-DOLLAR SURGE IN THE MIDDLE
CLASS RIGHT NOW.
HOW DO YOU ARGUE AGAINST THAT?
YOU SIMPLY SAY IT IS NOT BIG
ENOUGH.
WHY NOT 10.
STEVE: INCOMES OF THE MIDDLE
CLASS HAVE GONE UP $5,000 PER
FAMILY DURING THE TRUMP YEARS.
>> NOT ENOUGH, SORRY.
AINSLEY: HOW WILL THAT FARE
ELECTION TIME?
THE ECONOMY IS GREAT, PEOPLE
HAVE 5000 MORE EACH YEAR?
>> IF I LEARNED ANYTHING FROM
2016, I DON'T KNOW AND, LOOKING
AT POLLS TODAY, BUT YOU GUYS
TELL ME, I FLICK AROUND ALL OVER
THE PLACE AND I STILL SEE PEOPLE
LOOKING AT POLLS SAYING BASED ON
THE POLLS, DOT, DOT.
STEVE: EVERY DAY.
>> WHY WOULD ANYBODY LOOK AT ANY
POLL ANYWHERE CONCLUDE ANYTHING
EVER?
BRIAN: I AGREE.
ONE THING WILL HELP YOU, IF YOU
GO BACK TO "DIRTY JOBS."
TRADE DEALS BRING BACK
MANUFACTURING TO THIS COUNTRY
AND I DON'T THINK THE DEMOCRAT
ARE PUSHING BACK.
LET'S TALK ABOUT YOUR BOOK, I
KNOW YOU DON'T WANT TO DISCUSS
IT.
THE BOOK IS NUMBER SIX ON AMAZON
BUT YOU'RE NOT ABOUT NUMBERS.
>> NO.
WHY TRUST THE POLLS.
CLEARLY IT IS NUMBER OF ONE.
THIS IS FAKE NEWS.
AINSLEY: WHAT IS IT ABOUT?
>> THE BOOK IS, WELL, IT STARTED
AS A COLLECTION OF STORIES I
WRITE FOR MY PODCAST, WHICH IS
CALLED THE WAY I HEARD IT.
MY MOTHER READ THEM.
THESE ARE VERY NICE, BUT A
RATHER LAZY APPROACH TO WRITING
DON'T YOU THINK, PUBLISHING
SOMETHING YOU ALREADY READ.
OKAY, I SAID SURE, IN BETWEEN A
STORY ABOUT A FAMOUS PERSON I
NEVER MET, I'M INTRIGUED BY, I
TELL A STORY OF MY OWN MISSPENT
YOUTH.
THE BOOK GOES BETWEEN BIOGRAPHY
AND AUTO BIOGRAPHY.
MEMOIR INTERRUPTED BY FAMOUS
PEOPLE I WISH I KNEW BETTER.
BRIAN: ONE GREAT STORY ABOUT MEL
BROOKS.
>> THERE ARE MANY GREAT STORIES.
BRIAN: ARE HAVE YOU SEEN TALK
SHOWS BEFORE?
>> SPOILER ALERT.
BRIAN: I TOLD YOU THE END.
I APOLOGIZE.
>> HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A SHOW
LIKE THIS?
UNBELIEVABLE.
STEVE: GOING BACK TO THE
FUNDAMENTALS.
>> LET'S MAKE IT FUNDAMENTAL,
YOU REMEMBER PAUL HARVEY, THE
REST OF THE STORY?
I RIPPED OFF THAT IDEA, WITH
PERMISSION FROM HIS SON.
THE WAY I HEARD IT, IS MY
VERSION OF PAUL HARVEY'S OLD
RADIO SHOW.
WHERE YOU LEARN ABOUT HISTORY
AND YOU LEARN ABOUT BIOGRAPHY
THROUGH MYSTERY.
SO THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE SPINE
OF THE BOOK.
THOSE ARE THE TILES IN THE
MOSAIC.
STEVE: 35 MYSTERIES.
>> 35 MYSTERIESES JUXTAPOSED
GROWING UP WITH TWO OF THE MOST
INTERESTING PEOPLE IN THE WORLD,
WHICH WERE MY MOM AND DAD.
BRIAN: ONE OF THE STORIES ENDS
WITH MEL BROOKS.
>> WOULD YOU STOP WITH THE MEL
BROOKS?
BRIAN: IT'S A GREAT STORY.
>> HIS NAME WAS CORPORAL
KAMINSKY, DURING SECOND WORLD
WAR, DURING THE CLIMBED A
UTILITY POLL, CHANGING THE
PROPAGANDA PLAYED BY THE GERMANS
TO AL JOLSON'S TOOT CITY.
IT WAS UNOF THE GREAT THINGS
ABOUT THE WAR AND IT FRAMED HIS
CAREER.
THINK ABOUT SPRINGTIME FOR
HITLER AND ALL THOSE CRAZY
THINGS, DURING THE BATTLE OF
BULGE HE PLAYED A GREAT JEWISH
SONG TO A FOREST FILLED WITH
NAZIS, IF THAT SOUNDS
INTERESTING, I DON'T KNOW WHICH
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