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SHANNON.
>> Shannon: GILLIAN TURNER,
THANK YOU FOR CHECKING THAT
DOWN.
>> YOU BET.
>> Shannon: CONTINUES TO HOLD
CLOSED DOORS HEARINGS WITH
CURRENT AND FORMER TROP AND
ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS.
THE WALL STREET JOURNALS
EDITORIAL BOARD MORNING HOUSE
INTEL CHAIRMAN ADAM SCHIFF THAT
BY DOING THINGS THIS WAY I'M A
LENDING CREDIBILITY TO TO THE
PRESIDENT'S ARGUMENT THAT IF
THEY AGAIN.
QUOTE, "THE HOUSE DEMOCRAT
JUSTIFIES HIS IMPEACHMENT
SECRETLY AS IF HE'S RUNNING A
CRIMINAL TRIAL."
SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST
BRIT HUME WILL BREAK IT DOWN,
GOOD TO HAVE YOU WITH US.
>> THANK YOU, SHANNON, GLAD TO
BE HERE.
>> Shannon: BYRON YORK WRITING
ABOUT THIS.
THEY WERE TRANSCRIPT INTERVIEWS.
THE LAST COUPLE HAVE BEEN
DEPOSITIONS, WHICH MEANS NO ONE
IS ALLOWED TO COME OUT AND TALK
ABOUT THEM.
ADAM SCHIFF CAN DECIDE IF THERE
TRANSCRIPT ARE RELEASED AND EVEN
LAWMAKERS ARE GETTING A CHANCE
TO LOOK AT THEM.
TALKS ABOUT THE FORMER
AMBASSADOR, MARIE YOVANOVITCH,
WHO TESTIFIED LAST WEEK.
HE SAYS THIS, "AS THE INTERVIEW
BEGAN HER TEN PAGE OPENING
STATEMENT QUICKLY LEAKED.
DEMOCRATS AND MARIE YOVANOVITCH
GOT THEIR SIDE OF THE STORY OUT
WITHOUT ANY REBUTTAL FROM
REPUBLICANS."
IF THEY ARE AFRAID TO SAY
ANYTHING.
>> THE REPUBLICANS ARE AFRAID I
THINK THAT THE DEMOCRATS ON THE
COMMITTEE, ON THE INTELLIGENCE
COMMITTEE, WILL DO TO THEM, OR
SOMEONE OF THEM, WHAT THEY DID
TO DEVIN NUNES, WHICH WAS THEY
WALKED UP A CHARGE THAT HE
MISHANDLED CLASSIFIED
INFORMATION OR WHATEVER, IT WAS
A BASELESS CHARGE, BUT HE HAD TO
STEP DOWN FROM THE COMMITTEE, OR
FELT HE HAD TO WHILE THERE
INDEPENDENCY WAS DONE INTO THAT.
I THINK THEY ARE AFRAID OF THAT
A LITTLE BIT BUT THIS GAME IS SO
KIND OF TRANSPARENT, WHAT'S
GOING ON HERE.
THEY HOLD THE QUESTIONING
SESSION IN SECRET.
THEN THE DEMOCRATS LEAKED TO THE
MEDIA WHATEVER PORTIONS THEY
THINK ARE ADVANTAGEOUS TO THEIR
SIDE OF THE REPUBLICANS ARE
AFRAID TO DO THE SAME THING.
SO THAT'S HOW THE GAME IS BEING
PLAYED.
I FRANKLY, SHANNON, DON'T THINK
THAT THE DEMOCRATS CAN SUSTAIN
THIS, HAVING THESE INTERVIEWS IN
SECRET MUCH LONGER.
BECAUSE, AS YOU KNOW,
IMPEACHMENT IS A LEGAL PROCESS,
BUT IT'S A POLITICAL PROCESS AS
WELL.
IT'S A PECULIAR BLEND.
THEY ARE ENTITLED AT LAW TO DO
THIS ANYWAY THEY CHOOSE, THE
DEMOCRATS ARE.
THEY CONTROL THE PLACE AND THEY
CAN IMPEACH FOR WHATEVER REASON
THEY WANT BASICALLY.
BUT IF IT IS PERCEIVED AS UNFAIR
BY THE PEOPLE AROUND THE
COUNTRY, THAT IT'S ONE-SIDED,
UNFAIR, STAR CHAMBER, IN
SECRET -- AND OF COURSE TRUMP
WILL HOWL AT THE MOON OF ABOUT
THAT FOREVER.
, THEN I THINK THEY GOT A
PROBLEM.
IT WILL WORRY THE DEMOCRATS IN
THE HOUSE WHO WERE RELUCTANT TO
VOTE FOR IMPEACHMENT, IT WILL
EMBOLDEN REPUBLICANS IN THE
HOUSE AND IN THE SENATE WILL
ULTIMATELY HAVE TO PASS ON THIS
IF IT COMES TO THAT, SO I THINK
THERE'S A LOT OF RISK IN TRYING
TO DO IT THE WAY THEY ARE DOING
IT.
>> Shannon: OKAY, LET'S TALK
ABOUT THE DEVELOPER THAT HUNTER
BIDEN IS STEPPING DOWN FROM THE
BOARD OF A CHINESE COMPANY,
SAYING HE'S DONE NOTHING WRONG
BUT HE DOESN'T WANT TO CAUSE
PROBLEMS FOR HIS FATHER.
JONATHAN TURLEY WRITING IN THE
HILL, LAW PROFESSOR, TALKED
ABOUT HOW MOST OF THE MEDIA,
WHAT THEY SAYS IT HAS BEEN FULLY
INVESTIGATED AND THERE'S NOTHING
THERE, ALTHOUGH I DON'T KNOW A
LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN
INVESTIGATING IT.
HE OUTLINES WHAT HAS AND HASN'T
HAPPENED BUT HE SAYS THIS.
"THERE'S NO REASON THE MEDIA
CANNOT PURSUE ALLEGATIONS
AGAINST BOTH OF THE TRUMPS AND
THE BIDENS.
AT THAT, HOWEVER WOULD COUNTER
THE NARRATIVE THAT THERE'S
NOTHING WRONG WITH HUNTER
BIDEN'S DEALINGS AND THAT IT'S
ALL A LIE THAT'S BEST TO
IGNORE."
YOU'VE SEEN THE LETTERS THAT
THEY CAME FROM THE CAMPAIGN
WARNING MEDIA OUTLETS.
TALKING ABOUT IT, OR STOP
BOOKING CERTAIN PEOPLE.
WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.
>> WELL, THE PROBLEM IS THAT
THERE IS AN OBVIOUS SORT OF
CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON ITS FACE
THAT DEALS WITH 100 BIDEN WAS
DOING WHILE HIS FATHER, AS
VICE PRESIDENT, WEST POINT MAN
ON FOREIGN POLICY MATTERS,
AFFECTING COUNTRIES WHO STOOD TO
BE AFFECTED -- STOOD TO AFFECT
HUNTER BIDEN'S INTERESTS, SO HE
HAD A CONFLICT THERE AND YOU
DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING WRONG,
EXACTLY, OR ILLEGAL, IN ORDER
FOR THAT TO BE A PROBLEM,
BECAUSE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST
CREATES AN APPEARANCE PROBLEM
AND IT MAKES PEOPLE SUSPICIOUS
THAT THE FOREIGN POLICY THAT WE
ARE CONDUCTING IN PARTICULAR
ISN'T ON THE UP AND UP BECAUSE
THERE'S AN INTEREST THERE.
THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE AND
I DON'T THINK THAT'S EVER BEEN
PROPERLY ADDRESSED.
>> Shannon: YOU THINK IT WILL
BE ADDRESSED, QUICKLY, IN THE
DEBATE TOMORROW NIGHT?
"THE BOSTON HERALD"'S RIGHT.
"THE DEMOCRATS SHARE ONLY ONE
UNIFYING FLY FROM, THAT THEY
HATE TRUMP, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO
IGNORE QUID PRO QUO DROVE OR
QUIT PRO JOE, DO THEY HATE TRUMP
MORE THAN THEY WANT TO WIN?
>> I THINK THAT WHEN IT COMES TO
A QUESTION OF IF YOU ARE A
DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE -- BIDEN
STILL HAS A BIG CHUNK OF THAT
VOTE.
I THINK IS ON SHAKY GROUND IN
SOME WAYS, BUT THERE HE IS.
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT
IT?
ARE YOU GOING TO ATTACK HIM ON
THIS STUFF?
TAKE HIM ON IN SOME WAY?
OR YOU GOING TO -- KNOWING THAT
THE MAJORITY OF THE VOTERS ARE
NOT GOING TO APPROVE OF, BECAUSE
IT MIGHT HELP TRUMP, ARE YOU
GOING TO SHY AWAY.
MY GUESS IS THEY WILL SHY AWAY
BUT WHO KNOWS?
THERE ARE SOME HAIL MARY PASSES
BEING THROWN IN THAT FIELD OUT
THERE, MOST PARTICULARLY BY
BETO O'ROURKE, WHO'S BEEN COMING
AFTER ALL KINDS OF STUFF THAT
COULDN'T POSSIBLY ATTRACT A
MAJORITY OF THE VOTE AND I THINK
IT'S DRIVING THE DEMOCRATS CRAZY
THAT HE'S DOING IT BECAUSE IT
ATTACHES TO THEM IN SOME WAY.
SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE KIND
OF FUN TO SEE WHAT THEY DO
TOMORROW NIGHT.
>> Shannon: IT WILL BE AT WE
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