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  • - How Joker's Ending

  • Could Tie into

  • The DC Cinematic Universe

  • After much hype, Joker is finally out in theaters and it's

  • really shaping up to be a huge blockbuster for Warner Bros.

  • and DC.

  • And while the movie has been touted as a standalone flick

  • set in an eighties Gotham City, not tied into the greater DC

  • Cinematic Universe, as we just said it's shaping up to be a

  • huge, huge blockbuster.

  • If it does well enough, we bet that the temptation to

  • revisit this Joker again in order to make more money would

  • be somewhere between pretty damn likely and

  • it goes without saying.

  • But, what would that film look like?

  • Well, luckily, the ending gave us plenty to chew on, so

  • there is definitely room to continue the story, and even

  • tie it into the DC Cinematic Universe as well.

  • - Booyah.

  • Now, before we get into the main story, we want to give you

  • a spoiler warning.

  • We will be talking at length about Joker in this piece, and

  • will be spoiling the hell out of the movie.

  • Seriously, if you haven't seen it yet, go away!

  • Go!

  • Get out of here!

  • We're going to wait.

  • We're just going to spend the next few hours working on our

  • standup routine.

  • Okay, everyone ready?

  • Great to see you tonight.

  • Thank you so much.

  • You're an awesome crowd.

  • A guy walks into a bar and pulls out a tiny piano, and a

  • twelve inch pianist.

  • So, then I said, "Joker, I hardly know her."!

  • All right, they're not all winners.

  • Oh, you're back!

  • Great!

  • Let's get into it.

  • So, how could Joker fit into the continuity of the

  • DC Cinematic Universe?

  • It stands on its own perfectly well and it doesn't

  • necessarily tie into it specifically, right?

  • Well, the option is there, so let's break down the evidence.

  • The first clue is that DC Cinematic U's timeline is

  • currently in flux, and is in the process of retconning

  • itself, like how Wonder Woman 1984 is changing her

  • backstory set up in Batman V Superman that said she had

  • gone into hiding for decades.

  • Even Gal Gadot admitted this during a presser for Justice

  • League back in 2017, saying, "sometimes in a creative

  • process, you establish something that is not necessarily the

  • right decision, but then you can always correct it and

  • change it.".

  • So, if Warner Bros. and DC really decided that they wanted

  • to change the timeline a bit to bring Joaquin Phoenix's

  • Joker into continuity, they definitely could.

  • Tying directly into that is the death of

  • the Waynes in Joker.

  • While we saw Bruce Wayne's parents killed in a different way

  • in Batman V Superman: Damn of Justice, it was through the

  • lens of a dream sequence, which, come on, dreams are super

  • unreliable narrators.

  • Speaking of unreliable narrators, let's talk Joker.

  • Specifically, the ending.

  • In it, the audience learns that some of the film they just

  • saw didn't really happen.

  • However, while his relationship with Sophie was a

  • fabrication, he did murder Murray Franklin on live TV, and

  • ultimately he did inspire the people of Gotham into

  • worshiping the Joker as a symbol.

  • And it's this that ties into our next point.

  • Joker could be brought into DC film continuity by tying it

  • into the three Jokers concept currently in DC comics.

  • If you've missed out, currently in DC comics there are three

  • different Jokers from three different eras currently

  • inhabiting the comic book universe.

  • The first Joker established back in 1940, the post-crisis

  • Joker essentially inspired by Alan Moore's The Killing Joke,

  • and the current Joker from the

  • New 52 slash Rebirth continuity.

  • While this storyline has yet to be explained and will most

  • likely pay off in the upcoming Three Jokers black label

  • comic, one theory about how it will work together could

  • apply to the movie universe as well.

  • With the different takes and characteristics of the Joker

  • in the comics over the years, this could also apply to the

  • different takes of the Joker in the films as well.

  • Because if there's one thing DC isn't short on, it's

  • portrayals of the Joker on screen.

  • If Joaquin Phoenix's Joker in Joker is the sort of original

  • Joker a la the 1940s Joker from the comics, it wouldn't be

  • a stretch to believe that he could inspire others to later

  • take on the mantle of green hair and white face paint kind

  • of like he does in the movie, and we could see Jared Leto's

  • Joker years later as one of those inspired by him.

  • And honestly, this would be much better than having

  • Phoenix's Joker be the only Joker in Gotham City, which

  • would eventually see him as an old man being punched in the

  • face by Batman, when Bruce Wayne finally comes of age.

  • Because that's just not a fair fight.

  • - You wouldn't hit a guy with glasses, huh?

  • Would you?

  • Huh?

  • - Although, it does seem to be the point of the TV show

  • Gotham, so...

  • Who knows.

  • Ultimately, the Joker as a character is a notoriously

  • unreliable narrator.

  • Hell, Joker director Todd Phillips has said that is part of

  • what drew him to the character, the multiple choice

  • nature of his backstory.

  • So, if DC wanted to make the events of Joker canon in the

  • Man of Steel timeline, there's a pretty

  • clean path to follow.

  • It could be canon, even if it is all a lie

  • told by the Joker.

  • That's the beauty of the character.

  • His lies are just as important as his truths.

  • Could this all happen?

  • Maybe, but also maybe not.

  • But, no matter what, it will be interesting to see whether

  • Joker remains a standalone film or if it gets folded into

  • the greater DC universe as time goes on.

  • But, what do you folks think?

  • Did you enjoy Joker?

  • Do you hope they bring it into DC continuity?

  • And which onscreen Joker is your favorite?

  • Let's discuss.

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