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STEVE: WELCOME BACK.
WHO BET TORE -- WHO BETTER TO
HELP US UNDERSTAND THE LEGAL
ASPECT OF THIS IS FOX NEWS LEGAL
ANALYST GREGG JARRETT AND THE
AUTHOR OF THE BOOK THE WITCH
HUNT.
LET'S START WITH THE LATEST ON
THE IMPEACHMENT AND THEN WE WILL
GET TO THE NEW INFORMATION IN
YOUR BOOK, AFTER THAT, BUT JUST
VERY CLEARLY, WHAT IS THE
ARGUMENT HERE ABOUT THE LEGAL
BASIS FOR THIS IMPEACHMENT
EFFORT?
>> THERE IS NO LEGAL BASIS.
THE CRIMINAL DIVISION AT THE
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, THESE ARE
CAREER PROSECUTORS, THE BEST IN
THE NATION, LOOKED AT THE
OFFICIAL RECORD OF THE
CONVERSATION BETWEEN PRESIDENT
ZELENSKY AND TRUMP, AND THEY
UNANIMOUSLY CONCLUDED THERE IS
NO CRIME.
THERE'S NO CAMPAIGN FINANCE
VIOLATION.
SO ON WHAT BASIS ARE DEMOCRATS
MOVING FOR IMPEACHMENT?
THEY'VE EMBRACED THIS RATHER
NOTION THAT IT WAS AN ABUSE OF
POWER BECAUSE HE WAS TARGETING
HIS POLITICAL OPPONENT JOE
BIDEN.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE FRAMERS
FEARED THAT AN OPPOSING PARTY
WOULD SEEK FOR PURELY POLITICAL
REASONS TO TRY TO REMOVE A
PRESIDENT.
AS YOU POINTED OUT, WHEN BIDEN
ENGAGED IN A QUID PRO QUO, HE
WAS VICE PRESIDENT.
IT WASN'T RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT
AT THE TIME -- HE WASN'T RUNNING
FOR PRESIDENT AT THE TIME.
AND THIS PRESIDENT, ANY
PRESIDENT WHO HAS REASON TO
BELIEVE THAT A PUBLIC OFFICE
HOLDER IS ENGAGED IN A CORRUPT
ACT, IT IS INCUMBENT UPON HIS
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE OR HIM TO
ASK UKRAINE LOOK, IF YOU HAVE
EVIDENCE OF THIS, PLEASE TURN IT
OVER TO US BECAUSE IT'S A CRIME
FOR A PUBLIC OFFICE HOLDER TO
CONFER A BENEFIT IN EXCHANGE FOR
SOMETHING OF VALUE TO HIMSELF OR
IN THIS CASE TO HIS SON.
THIS HASN'T BEEN DEBUNKED AS THE
MEDIA AND BIDEN CLAIM.
THERE'S ENOUGH EVIDENCE HERE TO
JUSTIFY LOOKING INTO IT.
STEVE: AND SO CAN I JUST ON THAT
POINT ASK YOU ABOUT THE RUDY
GIULIANI ROLE BECAUSE A LOT HAS
BEEN MADE OF THE -- HERE THIS
QUESTION THE WHOLE TIME WELL IF
THERE'S SOMETHING TO INVESTIGATE
HERE, WHY DOESN'T PRESIDENT
TRUMP USE THE RESOURCES AT HIS
DISPOSAL AS RUNNING THE
EXECUTIVE, THE FBI, AND SO ON,
JUSTICE DEPARTMENT?
WHY DOES HE HAVE RUDY GIULIANI
DOING IT?
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT ATTORNEY
GENERAL BARR WAS MENTIONED IN
CONNECTION WITH THESE
INVESTIGATIONS.
WHAT ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT?
>> WELL, THE PRESIDENT CAN USE
WHOMEVER HE WANTS.
THAT'S HIS RIGHT AS CHIEF
EXECUTIVE.
BUT IT WAS ACTUALLY BILL BARR,
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL WHO ASKED
THE PRESIDENT TO PLEASE
INTRODUCE HIM TO FOREIGN LEADERS
TO PURSUE HIS OFFICIAL
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
INVESTIGATION INTO THE ORIGINS
OF THE TRUMP RUSSIA COLLUSION
HOAX AND ANY OTHER RELATED
MATTER.
SO IF GIULIANI RUNS ACROSS IN
HIS CAPACITY AS THE ATTORNEY FOR
THE PRESIDENT INFORMATION ABOUT
A POTENTIAL CORRUPT ACT BY JOE
BIDEN, HE HAS EVERY RIGHT TO
FURTHER LOOK INTO IT AND TURN IT
OVER TO THE DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE, ON BEHALF OF THE
PRESIDENT.
STEVE: ALL RIGHT.
LET'S MOVE TO YOUR FANTASTIC
BOOK THE FALLOUT TO THE RUSSIA
HOAX WITCH HUNT.
I SAW YOU ON "FOX & FRIENDS"
TALKING ABOUT IT THIS WEEK.
THEY PROMISED THREE REVEALS IN
YOUR BOOK THAT WERE NEW PIECES
OF INFORMATION THAT WE HAD TO
KNOW ABOUT.
BUT THERE WAS ONLY -- THEY RAN
OUT OF TIME.
AND WE ONLY GOT TO TWO OF THEM.
CAN YOU GIVE US ALL THREE
TONIGHT, GREGG?
>> SURE.
ONE OF THE ASTONISHING THINGS I
FOUND OUT IS APPOINTMENT OF BOB
MUELLER OF SPECIAL COUNSEL WAS
MADE BY ROD ROSENSTEIN, NOT
BECAUSE THE EVIDENCE MERITED IT,
BECAUSE HE GOT MAD AT TRUMP.
IT WAS AN ACT OF VENGEANCE AND
RETALIATION AGAINST THE
PRESIDENT.
AND ROSENSTEIN KNEW WHAT HE DID
WAS WRONG, WHEN CONFRONTED ON
THE DAY OF THE APPOINTMENT IN
HIS OFFICE, HE LITERALLY COWERED
BEHIND HIS DESK AND BLUBBERED AM
I GOING TO GET FIRED?
THAT'S CONSCIOUSNESS OF GUILT.
THE OTHER REVEAL IS THAT A YEAR
BEFORE MUELLER CAME OUT WITH HIS
REPORT, THERE WAS THIS UGLY
CONFRONTATION BETWEEN TRUMP'S
LAWYERS AND BOB MUELLER AND HIS
TEAM OF PARTISANS IN WHICH
MUELLER ADMITTED THERE WAS NO
EVIDENCE OF COLLUSION, AND
TRUMP'S LAWYERS BECAME ANGRY.
WHY DON'T YOU TELL THIS TO THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE?
HE REFUSED TO DO IT, AND A
SHOUTING MATCH ENSUES WITH
TRUMP'S LAWYER POUNDING ON THE
DESK AND YELLING AT BOB MUELLER.
AND THE THIRD REVEAL WOULD BE
THAT AT THAT TIME, TRUMP'S
LAWYERS WERE DEEPLY WORRIED
ABOUT THE MENTAL STATE OF BOB
MUELLER.
HE SEEMED LOST, CONFUSED,
DISORIENTED.
HE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND FUNDAMENTAL
FACTS ABOUT THE CASE.
HE SEEMED TO BE OBLIVIOUS TO THE
LAW OF OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.
AND OF COURSE WE LEARNED A YEAR
AND A HALF LATER, JUST THIS LAST
JULY, WHEN MUELLER TESTIFIED, IT
WAS AS IF THE -- YOU KNOW, THE
CURTAIN WAS PULLED BACK ON THE
WIZARD OF OZ, AND HE WASN'T WHAT
HIS REPUTATION HAD PROMISED.
STEVE: WOW.
WELL, THERE YOU GO, THANK YOU,
GREGG, VERY VERY --
>> THESE ARE SOME OF THE MANY
STORIES IN THE NEW BOOK "WITCH
HUNT", WHICH JUST CAME OUT.
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