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  • Congratulations

  • on another new kick-ass thing

  • that you are doing in your world, Tracee Ellis Ross.

  • -You're doing amazing things. -Thank you. Thank you very much.

  • -No. For real. -Thank you. -(applause and cheering)

  • For real. Let's, um...

  • -Let's talk first about-about Mixed-ish. -I...

  • -Yeah, let's do it. -So, Black-ish, huge success.

  • -Yeah. -Right? And then Mixed-ish is a spin-off.

  • So there's-there's Black-ish, there's Grown-ish,

  • and then there's Mixed-ish.

  • -Yes. The Mixed-ish goes backward. -Right.

  • So it's my... my character Bow's childhood.

  • -Okay, about growing up as a mixed-race child -Yeah.

  • -in, like, a much earlier time in America. -The '80s.

  • -Right. -The binary '80s.

  • (affected): Good clothes. Good hair.

  • -Not. -You know what's interesting about,

  • like, that feeling and that time is, like, like,

  • being mixed-race becomes

  • -the really interesting narrative in America. -It does.

  • -Right? -Different where you're from.

  • Yeah, no, definitely. Where it's, like, it's...

  • you obviously have the one-drop rule

  • where it's, like, you're black immediately,

  • and then, like, people are like:

  • Oh, but sometimes I don't feel black.

  • Or: People tell me I'm not black enough.

  • Or what is black? How is that defined?

  • How does black count?

  • Like, is that ripe for comedy?

  • Sure. I mean, it's just like the subject matter on Black-ish. 00:01:00.559 --> 00:01:02.862 line:0% If you list the things that we've done 00:01:02.895 --> 00:01:05.331 line:0% as stories on Black-ish, you wouldn't think it was a comedy. 00:01:05.364 --> 00:01:07.834 line:0% -Right. -But I think that the things that we go through 00:01:07.867 --> 00:01:09.669 line:0% as human beings can be very funny. 00:01:09.702 --> 00:01:13.206 line:0% Um, Mixed-ish is the story of how I came to be 00:01:13.239 --> 00:01:16.542 line:0% as Bow Johnson, but it's the story of a fish out of water, 00:01:16.575 --> 00:01:18.678 line:0% which all of us experience in many different ways.

  • -Right, right. -I think the beauty of it is,

  • when you're telling a mixed story,

  • you have these two different experiences,

  • two different heritages, two different worlds--

  • how do you, within that world, define yourself?

  • Um, and I think a lot of us experience that,

  • whether it's because you have two different races

  • or heritages that you come from,

  • um, but when you feel "other than."

  • Um, and I think that's a really interesting story

  • to navigate through, especially when you're looking

  • at the binary world of the '80s.

  • Have you ever felt "other than"?

  • -All the time. -What do you mean, all the time?

  • I feel like, you know, like you came from this world,

  • like, you know, Diana Ross's daughter,

  • and it just feels like you were just, like,

  • -in the mix all the time. -With guns just blazing?

  • Yeah, just, you know, just like...

  • It was the '80s! Yeah!

  • No. Um, no, it's a journey, it's like the journey with my hair.

  • I mean, yes, my mother and I come from a family

  • where my mom had natural hair, and-and I was supported

  • in loving myself as I am authentically,

  • but the world around me and the representation

  • and what I saw told me that my hair should be a different way

  • and that my beauty was defined

  • by a standard that I did not fit into.

  • -Interesting. -And so as a result, um,

  • I tried to beat my hair into submission,

  • make it look easy, breezy, bouncin' and behavin'--

  • why wouldn't it fall into... all these different things--

  • and I started this journey.

  • You could chronicle my journey of self-acceptance

  • through my journey with my hair.

  • It's interesting, 'cause if we see your hair now...

  • Like, when I... when I stalk you on social media,

  • -Oh, yeah. -I see everyone loves the hair.

  • Everyone's like, "Oh, my God, oh, I wish it were my hair,

  • wish it were my hair," and you had this amazing series of posts

  • where you put out, like, your journey

  • -Yeah. -of how you struggled with your hair, and, like,

  • relaxing the hair, straightening the hair,

  • -Yep -blowing out the hair, just trying to get it to not be

  • -what everybody loves. -To not be what it is.

  • -Well, what-what... what it is. -Yes.

  • And I think, you know, the standard of beauty

  • is steeped in patriarchy, racism, sexism,.

  • There was a standard of what things look like.

  • We are in a different time now,

  • as there's an exploration happening,

  • but these... people with my hair-- you--

  • we've existed for a long time.

  • (laughter)

  • (affected): We've been wearing our hair for ages.

  • Um, and I think the world is kind of waking up

  • -Right. -to our beauty and our power.

  • -I always... -I mean, did you ever wear your hair big?

  • Are you kidding? I always wanted to have my hair straight.

  • -Always. -See?

  • -No, really, 'cause I was... -And... and why?

  • 'Cause in school, for instance, they would be like,

  • if your hair's curly, it's too...

  • -they were like, it's messy, it's ugly, -Yeah.

  • they were like, so, you know, teachers would be like,

  • -"Hey! Cut your hair." -"Be appropriate."

  • Yeah, but then, like, the white boys would have, like,

  • -that hair that's, like... -Falls in your face.

  • you know, the hair, like, where you could do the thing.

  • Yeah, and every time they tried to get your attention,

  • -they'd be like this. -Yeah, they'd do the thing.

  • -Yeah. -And then, like, if they say something, be like, poof,

  • -and the hair would... -I stood like this for a long time.

  • -Why? -'Cause that's the way the girls stood,

  • -'cause their hair would... -Oh, you wanted the hair to...

  • Yeah. It didn't do anything, but I would just be, like, yeah.

  • (laughter)

  • Whatever.

  • Oh, dear. Are you talking to me?

  • -Oh, that's so amazing. -Right?

  • So I-- yeah. So then, I went, and then I, like,

  • would even, like, try and relax my hair,

  • -and they burnt my scalp, and then, like, -Yes.

  • -you know when you do the whole thing in the salon, -Yes.

  • -and then they put the thing and they're like, -Yes.

  • -"Leave it in, leave it in!" -Yes. Until you're like,

  • -And you're like, "It's burning." -"Burning."

  • -And they're like, "Good. Good." But they're like, "Good,

  • -the more it burns, the straighter it becomes." -Yeah.

  • -Yeah. -And it's horrible.

  • "Let's, all of your heritage,

  • "everything that is you naturally,

  • let's burn it out of you." No!

  • So you have a new, you have a new hair care line

  • specifically designed...

  • For curly, coily and tight-textured hair.

  • -(whoops) -(whooping, cheering, applause)

  • -Look at that. -So that your hair

  • can be celebrated, nourished.

  • It can be healthy, hydrated,

  • happy, joyful and juicy.

  • Wow.

  • (whooping, cheering)

  • -Wow. -Just like that.

  • (both laughing)

  • I-- Wh-What is the difference?

  • That's one thing I've always wanted to know,

  • because I know, like, for instance, I had to learn,

  • very early on, that there are many hair care products

  • -you can't use with this kind of hair. -Yeah.

  • Like, you know when I learned is when

  • I first started traveling,

  • -I remember the first time I stayed in a hotel, -Oh.

  • -and there was shampoo, -(laughs) That's a bad mistake.

  • and then, like, this is just a rule, if you're a black person,

  • -you just don't use shampoo in a hotel. -Don't use it.

  • -Don't use it. -It's not bad,

  • it's just not made for your hair.

  • -It's like using a bar of soap. -Yes, and I didn't know this.

  • And I was like, "Oh, free shampoo."

  • And then afterwards, I was like, "Now I see why it's free."

  • And it was horrible.

  • So what-what makes your products different

  • for coi-- like, tight, coily...

  • -Curly, coily, -Curly, coily,

  • -tighter textures. -tighter textures. 00:05:26.158 --> 00:05:29.528 line:0% Yeah. Um, filled with ingredients 00:05:29.561 --> 00:05:31.731 line:0% -that are healthy and safe for your hair, -Ah. 00:05:31.764 --> 00:05:33.566 line:0% um, ingredients that nourish your hair, 00:05:33.599 --> 00:05:35.968 line:0% um, that-- I don't know if you are somebody 00:05:36.001 --> 00:05:38.371 line:0% with this kind of hair, you know that you want slippage.

  • You want clumping, you want curl activation.

  • -Wow. -Yeah.

  • You want hydration, you want moisture.

  • I hear a lot of "Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm."

  • That's what you want, Trevor.

  • So there's three conditioners, medium, heavy and intensive.

  • There is a hydrating shampoo that gently cleanses,

  • but does not strip the hair of moisture.

  • -This is fun. -Yeah.

  • There's two oil serums.

  • An argon serum, which I like to mix

  • with the leave-in conditioner.

  • There is also a jojoba serum, which is a blend of oils.

  • Those can be used on your scalp, on your hair dry,

  • or on your hair wet.

  • And then there's also a shower brush, a clip and a towel.

  • -(cheering) -And-- Look at this!

  • And a leave-in conditioner, because a lot of us,

  • because our hair needs moisture,

  • um, often don't rinse our conditioner completely out,

  • -which is actually not what you should do. -Wow.

  • Because the conditioner really should only be left

  • in your hair for as long as it is prescribed,

  • but when you finish rinsing,

  • you want that moisture to be still in your hair,

  • and you want to seal in the cuticle of the hair--

  • -this is such technical talk, guys. -Right.

  • -So that you can get the curl... -You want-- Yeah.

  • You want to seal it in and get that curl

  • to bounce up and be juicy and joyful.

  • -And so you get that leave-in-- -I want the bounce.

  • -I think you could use the leave-in conditioner. -Yeah.

  • -I'm not saying you need it. -I want the bounce.

  • No, but I would use it. I need it. Of course I need it.

  • You know what I'm talking about? The next thing you know,

  • -he's gonna come back and have... -I'm just gonna come

  • on the Daily Show with, like, curls,

  • just like, coming out of my hair.

  • -Just be like, "These are my curls." -Yeah.

  • I love the sound. Congratulations on the shows,

  • but, you know what, congratulations on just being,

  • like, a kickass everything.

  • -Oh, you're kind. -CEO, she's like...

  • president, creator of everything.

  • -President of everything. -No, I love the sound

  • of these products so much that,

  • if you look under your seats right now...

  • -He's... -You guys don't even believe me!

  • -We didn't-- First of all, -You didn't even look under--

  • -they didn't even flinch. -He went like,

  • "You're not Oprah, Trevor, don't look under your seat."

  • -They didn't even flinch. -Yeah, she was like,

  • "I know him, he's not Oprah.

  • He can't afford that."

  • Tracee Ellis Ross, everybody.

Congratulations

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