BRIAN: DISAPPOINTED IN THE MLS

ON THAT.

ONE YEAR SINCE JUSTICE BRET

COUGH VIEW NOMINATION WAS ROCKED

BY CONTROVERSY.

YOU.

>> I BELIEVE IT IS MY CIVIC DUTY

TO TELL YOU WHAT HAPPENED TO ME.

MY MOTIVATION COMING FORWARD WAS

TO BE HELPFUL AND TO PROVIDE

FACTS ABOUT HOW MR. KAVANAUGH

ACTIONS DAMAGED MY LIFE SO THAT

YOU COULD TAKE INTO A SERIOUS

CONSIDERATION AS YOU MAKE YOUR

DECISION.

AINSLEY: NOW, NEWLY UNCOVERED

VIDEO OF HER LAWYER IS RAISING

SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT

TESTIMONY.

>> YOU WILL ALWAYS HAVE AN

ASTERISK NEXT TO HIS NAME.

WHEN HE TAKES A SCALPEL TO

ROE V. WADE, WE WILL KNOW WHO HE

IS, WE WILL KNOW HIS CHARACTER

WE KNOW WHAT MOTIVATES HIM.

THAT IS IMPORTANT.

IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE KNOW,

THAT WAS PART OF WHAT MOTIVATED

CHRISTINE.

AINSLEY: OUR NEXT GUEST WAS THE

FIRST TO REPORT ON THAT.

IT IS ALL IN HIS NEW BOOK,

SEARCH AND DESTROY, INSIDE THE

CAMPAIGN AGAINST

BRETT KAVANAUGH.

STEVE: JOINING US RIGHT NOW,

REPORTER FOR AMERICAN LAWYER

MAGAZINE, AUTHOR, RYAN LOVELACE.

HE JOINS US FROM D.C.

>> GOOD MORNING.

STEVE: I KNOW YOU HAVE NOT

SPOKEN TO CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD

BUT YOU FOUND THE VIDEO ON A

WEBSITE FOR THE LAST FIVE MONTHS

WHERE IT I CAN TALKS, DEBRA

KATZ, HER LAWYER TALKS ABOUT

MOTIVATION.

YOU'RE CONNECTING DOTS.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

>> WELL I'M LOOKING AT THIS IN

REPORTING "SEARCH AND DESTROY"

OUT, I LOOKED AT DEBRA KATZ,

GOING TO HER TALKS, WATCHING

WHAT HE DOES, TALKING TO PEOPLE

THAT ARE ADVERSARIES, HEARING

HER SAY CLIENT WAS MOTIVATED BY

ROE V. WADE, TAINTING ANYTHING

JUSTICE KAVANAUGH MIGHT DO ABOUT

IT, IT RAISES TWO THINGS.

AS CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD'S

LAWYER THAT CHRISTINE BLASEY

FORD WAS AMBIVALENT ABOUT ALL

THIS.

SHE SAID IT WAS ABOUT HER CIVIC

DUTY.

RAISES A LOT OF QUESTIONS WHAT

WAS THE ACTUAL MOTIVATION.

IF SHE WAS IN FACT MOTIVATED

TRYING TO TAINT JUSTICE

KAVANAUGH, FOR WHAT PURPOSE WAS

THAT?

SECONDLY AS YOU MENTIONED THIS

VIDEO HAS BEEN AVAILABLE

PUBLICLY FOR SOME TIME, NO ONE

IN THE PRESS HAS PAID ATTENTION

TO IT.

I REALLY THINK IT STARTS TO SHOW

SOME OF THE NEGLIGENCE THAT WENT

ON IN TERMS OF THE COVERAGE OF

THIS STORY, REALLY

INVESTIGATING, GETTING TO THE

BOTTOM OF ALL THE INTENT AN

MOTIVATION WHAT HAPPENED.

STEVE: RYAN, HAD PEOPLE KNOWN

ABOUT THIS MOTIVATION COMMENT,

PERHAPS THE SENATORS WOULD HAVE

DIRECTED THEIR QUESTIONS

DIFFERENTLY?

>> ABSOLUTELY I THINK THEY

WOULD.

I THINK WHEN WE WERE WATCHING

THE HEARINGS AT THIS TIME LAST

YEAR, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE

SAW WAS RACHEL MITCHELL, THE

QUESTIONER FOR REPUBLICANS

ASKING SYMPATHETIC PROBING

QUESTIONS BUT NOT ADVERSARIAL.

PERHAPS IF THEY KNEW THAT THE

MOTIVATION AS DESCRIBED BY DEBRA

KATZ DIFFERED FROM WHAT

CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD SAID, IF

THEY KNEW ABOUT THE THINGS THAT

AFTER THE HEARING HAPPENED THERE

WOULD BE DIFFERENT QUESTIONS.

BRIAN: WHAT IS YOUR BIGGEST

QUESTION?

>> THERE IS A FEW FRANKLY.

WHAT CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD SAID

HAPPENED ONLY CORROBORATED BY

HER.

WHEN IT HAPPENED, WHERE IT

HAPPENED, SHE CAN'T QUITE SAY.

WE HAVE TO GET TO, WHY DID THIS

HAPPEN?

WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM HER

DIRECTLY WHY THIS HAPPENED.

WHETHER OR NOT DEBRA KATZ IS

CORRECT IN SAYING THIS.

DEBRA KATZ IN TALKING ABOUT HER

STRATEGY SAID YOU NEED A

LEGISLATIVE STRATEGY, YOU NEED A

PRESS STRATEGY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE

ORGANIZED FORCES, WORK WITH

NON-PROFITS REST OF THAT IT BEGS

THE QUESTION, WAS CHRISTINE

BLASEY FORD WORKING WITH ALL

THOSE ORGANIZED FORCES THAT

DEBRA KATZ MENTIONED THAT HAD

BEEN TRYING TO CANCEL

KAVANAUGH'S NOMINATION FROM THE

VERY BEGINNING EVEN BEFORE HE

GOT PICKED.

>> TELL US ABOUT YOUR BOOK.

"SEARCH AND DESTROY"?

>> I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS

SEVERAL MONTHS A YEAR ON FROM

THE HEARINGS.

WHAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO WALK

READERS THROUGH STEP BY STEP THE

ORGANIZED FORCES THAT WERE OUT

THERE, EVEN BEFORE KAVANAUGH'S

NOMINATION THAT ROSE UP AND

TRIED TO CANCEL THIS NOMINATION.

THERE IS A LOT OF ATTACKS ON

LEGITIMACY AND AUTHORITY OF THE

COURT.

THAT IS WHY PEOPLE WERE WILLING

TO SPEAK TO ME BECAUSE PEOPLE ON

THE LEFT HAVE SAID THAT JUSTICE

GORSUCH SITS IN STOLEN SEAT THAT

BELONGED TO MERRICK GARLAND

PRESIDENT OBAMA'S NOMINEE.

NOW THEY'RE TRYING TO PUT AS

TERRIFIC NEXT TO JUSTICE

KAVANAUGH'S NAME.

PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND

PRECISELY WHAT THAT MEANS.

THE ATTACKS ON LEGITIMACY AND

AUTHORITY OF THE COURT AT THAT

ENTAILS.

BRIAN: WONDERING TOO, IF THE

REPUBLICAN PARTY WASN'T ABLE TO

COME TOGETHER ON THIS, IF IT

WOULD HAVE FALLEN APART BECAUSE

KAVANAUGH HAS ROOTS WITH THE

BUSH ADMINISTRATION, WHO WAS

PICKED BY THE TRUMP

ADMINISTRATION.

IT GAL VANNIZED ANY ANTI-TRUMP

FORCE BECAUSE HE HAD MORE

TRADITIONAL REPUBLICAN

BACKGROUND.

DO YOU THINK THAT PLAYED A ROLE?

>> I THINK IT DID.

TALKING TO FOLKS YOU HEAR THIS

IS ONE OF THE MOST THINGS,

SUPREME COURT NOMINATIONS ARE

GAL VAN NICING UNITED MOMENT FOR

CON IRV TIFFS AND REPUBLICANS

WRIT LARGE.

WHEN WE SAW MICHAEL AVENATTI

STEP FORWARD, THAT WAS MOMENT

WHICH REPUBLICANS AND

CONSERVATIVES GOT THEIR SPINE

BACK, REALLY STEPPED UP, CAME

TOGETHER AND HAD THAT NOT

HAPPENED, WE WOULD BE IN A MUCH

DIFFERENT PLACE RIGHT NOW I

THINK.