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WHAT WILL HE DO ABOUT THIS ONE?
BRIAN: DISAPPOINTED IN THE MLS
ON THAT.
ONE YEAR SINCE JUSTICE BRET
COUGH VIEW NOMINATION WAS ROCKED
BY CONTROVERSY.
YOU.
>> I BELIEVE IT IS MY CIVIC DUTY
TO TELL YOU WHAT HAPPENED TO ME.
MY MOTIVATION COMING FORWARD WAS
TO BE HELPFUL AND TO PROVIDE
FACTS ABOUT HOW MR. KAVANAUGH
ACTIONS DAMAGED MY LIFE SO THAT
YOU COULD TAKE INTO A SERIOUS
CONSIDERATION AS YOU MAKE YOUR
DECISION.
AINSLEY: NOW, NEWLY UNCOVERED
VIDEO OF HER LAWYER IS RAISING
SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT
TESTIMONY.
>> YOU WILL ALWAYS HAVE AN
ASTERISK NEXT TO HIS NAME.
WHEN HE TAKES A SCALPEL TO
ROE V. WADE, WE WILL KNOW WHO HE
IS, WE WILL KNOW HIS CHARACTER
WE KNOW WHAT MOTIVATES HIM.
THAT IS IMPORTANT.
IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE KNOW,
THAT WAS PART OF WHAT MOTIVATED
CHRISTINE.
AINSLEY: OUR NEXT GUEST WAS THE
FIRST TO REPORT ON THAT.
IT IS ALL IN HIS NEW BOOK,
SEARCH AND DESTROY, INSIDE THE
CAMPAIGN AGAINST
BRETT KAVANAUGH.
STEVE: JOINING US RIGHT NOW,
REPORTER FOR AMERICAN LAWYER
MAGAZINE, AUTHOR, RYAN LOVELACE.
HE JOINS US FROM D.C.
>> GOOD MORNING.
STEVE: I KNOW YOU HAVE NOT
SPOKEN TO CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD
BUT YOU FOUND THE VIDEO ON A
WEBSITE FOR THE LAST FIVE MONTHS
WHERE IT I CAN TALKS, DEBRA
KATZ, HER LAWYER TALKS ABOUT
MOTIVATION.
YOU'RE CONNECTING DOTS.
WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?
>> WELL I'M LOOKING AT THIS IN
REPORTING "SEARCH AND DESTROY"
OUT, I LOOKED AT DEBRA KATZ,
GOING TO HER TALKS, WATCHING
WHAT HE DOES, TALKING TO PEOPLE
THAT ARE ADVERSARIES, HEARING
HER SAY CLIENT WAS MOTIVATED BY
ROE V. WADE, TAINTING ANYTHING
JUSTICE KAVANAUGH MIGHT DO ABOUT
IT, IT RAISES TWO THINGS.
AS CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD'S
LAWYER THAT CHRISTINE BLASEY
FORD WAS AMBIVALENT ABOUT ALL
THIS.
SHE SAID IT WAS ABOUT HER CIVIC
DUTY.
RAISES A LOT OF QUESTIONS WHAT
WAS THE ACTUAL MOTIVATION.
IF SHE WAS IN FACT MOTIVATED
TRYING TO TAINT JUSTICE
KAVANAUGH, FOR WHAT PURPOSE WAS
THAT?
SECONDLY AS YOU MENTIONED THIS
VIDEO HAS BEEN AVAILABLE
PUBLICLY FOR SOME TIME, NO ONE
IN THE PRESS HAS PAID ATTENTION
TO IT.
I REALLY THINK IT STARTS TO SHOW
SOME OF THE NEGLIGENCE THAT WENT
ON IN TERMS OF THE COVERAGE OF
THIS STORY, REALLY
INVESTIGATING, GETTING TO THE
BOTTOM OF ALL THE INTENT AN
MOTIVATION WHAT HAPPENED.
STEVE: RYAN, HAD PEOPLE KNOWN
ABOUT THIS MOTIVATION COMMENT,
PERHAPS THE SENATORS WOULD HAVE
DIRECTED THEIR QUESTIONS
DIFFERENTLY?
>> ABSOLUTELY I THINK THEY
WOULD.
I THINK WHEN WE WERE WATCHING
THE HEARINGS AT THIS TIME LAST
YEAR, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE
SAW WAS RACHEL MITCHELL, THE
QUESTIONER FOR REPUBLICANS
ASKING SYMPATHETIC PROBING
QUESTIONS BUT NOT ADVERSARIAL.
PERHAPS IF THEY KNEW THAT THE
MOTIVATION AS DESCRIBED BY DEBRA
KATZ DIFFERED FROM WHAT
CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD SAID, IF
THEY KNEW ABOUT THE THINGS THAT
AFTER THE HEARING HAPPENED THERE
WOULD BE DIFFERENT QUESTIONS.
BRIAN: WHAT IS YOUR BIGGEST
QUESTION?
>> THERE IS A FEW FRANKLY.
WHAT CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD SAID
HAPPENED ONLY CORROBORATED BY
HER.
WHEN IT HAPPENED, WHERE IT
HAPPENED, SHE CAN'T QUITE SAY.
WE HAVE TO GET TO, WHY DID THIS
HAPPEN?
WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM HER
DIRECTLY WHY THIS HAPPENED.
WHETHER OR NOT DEBRA KATZ IS
CORRECT IN SAYING THIS.
DEBRA KATZ IN TALKING ABOUT HER
STRATEGY SAID YOU NEED A
LEGISLATIVE STRATEGY, YOU NEED A
PRESS STRATEGY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE
ORGANIZED FORCES, WORK WITH
NON-PROFITS REST OF THAT IT BEGS
THE QUESTION, WAS CHRISTINE
BLASEY FORD WORKING WITH ALL
THOSE ORGANIZED FORCES THAT
DEBRA KATZ MENTIONED THAT HAD
BEEN TRYING TO CANCEL
KAVANAUGH'S NOMINATION FROM THE
VERY BEGINNING EVEN BEFORE HE
GOT PICKED.
>> TELL US ABOUT YOUR BOOK.
"SEARCH AND DESTROY"?
>> I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS
SEVERAL MONTHS A YEAR ON FROM
THE HEARINGS.
WHAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO WALK
READERS THROUGH STEP BY STEP THE
ORGANIZED FORCES THAT WERE OUT
THERE, EVEN BEFORE KAVANAUGH'S
NOMINATION THAT ROSE UP AND
TRIED TO CANCEL THIS NOMINATION.
THERE IS A LOT OF ATTACKS ON
LEGITIMACY AND AUTHORITY OF THE
COURT.
THAT IS WHY PEOPLE WERE WILLING
TO SPEAK TO ME BECAUSE PEOPLE ON
THE LEFT HAVE SAID THAT JUSTICE
GORSUCH SITS IN STOLEN SEAT THAT
BELONGED TO MERRICK GARLAND
PRESIDENT OBAMA'S NOMINEE.
NOW THEY'RE TRYING TO PUT AS
TERRIFIC NEXT TO JUSTICE
KAVANAUGH'S NAME.
PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND
PRECISELY WHAT THAT MEANS.
THE ATTACKS ON LEGITIMACY AND
AUTHORITY OF THE COURT AT THAT
ENTAILS.
BRIAN: WONDERING TOO, IF THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY WASN'T ABLE TO
COME TOGETHER ON THIS, IF IT
WOULD HAVE FALLEN APART BECAUSE
KAVANAUGH HAS ROOTS WITH THE
BUSH ADMINISTRATION, WHO WAS
PICKED BY THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION.
IT GAL VANNIZED ANY ANTI-TRUMP
FORCE BECAUSE HE HAD MORE
TRADITIONAL REPUBLICAN
BACKGROUND.
DO YOU THINK THAT PLAYED A ROLE?
>> I THINK IT DID.
TALKING TO FOLKS YOU HEAR THIS
IS ONE OF THE MOST THINGS,
SUPREME COURT NOMINATIONS ARE
GAL VAN NICING UNITED MOMENT FOR
CON IRV TIFFS AND REPUBLICANS
WRIT LARGE.
WHEN WE SAW MICHAEL AVENATTI
STEP FORWARD, THAT WAS MOMENT
WHICH REPUBLICANS AND
CONSERVATIVES GOT THEIR SPINE
BACK, REALLY STEPPED UP, CAME
TOGETHER AND HAD THAT NOT
HAPPENED, WE WOULD BE IN A MUCH
DIFFERENT PLACE RIGHT NOW I
THINK.
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