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  • >> Neil: ALL RIGHT, LITTLE

  • EARLIER WE GOT WORD THAT

  • RUDY GIULIANI HAS BEEN

  • SUBPOENAED.

  • THE HOUSE PANELS INVOLVED, WHAT

  • THEY WANT IS WHAT WILL BECOME

  • FAMILIAR THEME, ANY DOCUMENTS

  • RELATED TO THE UKRAINE.

  • JUDGE ANDREW NAPOLITANO ON THIS

  • AND OTHER FAST-MOVING

  • DEVELOPMENTS.

  • >> I SAW YOUR LAST INTERVIEW

  • WITH LEON PANETTA.

  • IT'S MOVING FAR FASTER THAN THE

  • CLINTON ONE WAS AND IF MEMORY

  • SERVES, IT'S A LONG TIME AGO,

  • FAR FASTER THAN THE NIXON ONES.

  • THE HOUSE WANTS TO HAVE A FULL

  • VOTE COME UP OR DOWN ON

  • IMPEACHMENT, BEFORE CHRISTMAS.

  • THAT'S TWO AND HALF MONTHS.

  • >> Neil: YOU THINK THEY COULD

  • SOLVE THE DEBT PROBLEM THAT

  • QUICKLY?

  • HOLY TOLEDO.

  • WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THIS?

  • >> THE SUBPOENA?

  • >> Neil: YEAH.

  • >> WELL, IF RUDY GIULIANI IS THE

  • PRESIDENT'S LAWYER, AND HE SAYS

  • HE IS, HE HAS CERTAIN

  • PRIVILEGES.

  • THE ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE

  • WHICH PREVENTS THE HOUSE FROM

  • INTERFERING WITH THE ISSUES

  • DIRECTLY FROM THE PRESIDENT TO

  • RUDY AND FROM RUDY TO THE

  • PRESIDENT.

  • HE ALSO HASN'T BEEN CALLED HE

  • WORKED PRODUCT PRIVILEGE.

  • THAT MEANS WORK THAT HE DOES,

  • DOCUMENTS HE PREPARES, NOTES

  • THAT HE MADE TO HIMSELF OR TO

  • THE PRESIDENT IN FURTHERANCE OF

  • HIS WORK FOR THE PRESIDENT

  • CANNOT BE TURNED OVER.

  • BUT THAT'S NOT THE BOTTOM LINE

  • OF WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.

  • THEY ARE LOOKING FOR EMAILS AND

  • TEXT AND COMMUNICATIONS WITH ALL

  • THE PEOPLE IN UKRAINE THAT HE'S

  • DEALT WITH IN THE PAST THREE OR

  • FOUR YEARS AND THEY ARE TRYING

  • TO FIND OUT IF CHRIS WALLACE IS

  • CORRECT, IF THE HUSBAND-WIFE

  • TEAM OF LAWYERS IN

  • WASHINGTON, D.C., THAT CHRIS'S

  • REPORTING, SAYING THAT WE ARE

  • WORKING WITH RUDY.

  • IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEY WANT TO

  • SUBPOENAED THEM.

  • OR IF AS THEY SAY THEY WERE NOT

  • INVOLVED IN ANY WAY WITH THIS,

  • THAT IT WOULD BE A WASTE OF TIME

  • TO SUBPOENA THEM.

  • >> Neil: DOES IT MATTER IN

  • WHAT CAPACITY?

  • IF YOU ARE A PERSONAL LAWYER.

  • >> THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH

  • BEING A PERSONAL LAWYER FOR THE

  • PRESIDENT BUT THE PROBLEM COMES

  • WHEN YOU HAVE FOREIGN POLICY AT

  • TWO DIFFERENT LEVELS, ONE FROM

  • THE STATE DEPARTMENT AND ONE

  • FROM THE PRESIDENT'S PERSONAL

  • LAWYER'S.

  • WHO DOES THE FOREIGN COMPANY

  • DEAL WITH?

  • THE GREAT FEAR, AS LEON PANETTA

  • TOLD YOU, IS THE PRESIDENT OF

  • THE UNITED STATES -- THEY'VE HAD

  • THIS FEAR SINCE

  • GEORGE WASHINGTON -- THE

  • PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES

  • USING FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS TO

  • INFLUENCE DOMESTIC POLITICS.

  • THAT WAS THE FEAR OF THE FRAMERS

  • WHEN THEY PUT THAT IMPEACHMENT

  • CLAUSE.

  • >> Neil: GOING AFTER

  • MIKE POMPEO TO GET SIMILAR

  • DOCUMENTS.

  • THE THEME HERE IS WHAT?

  • >> THE THEME IS, WITH THE

  • SECRETARY OF STATE, DID YOU KNOW

  • WHAT RUDY WAS DOING IT IS IT

  • CONSISTENT WITH FOREIGN POLICY?

  • >> Neil: RUDY GIULIANI SAYS HE

  • DID.

  • >> IT'S NOT AN ACADEMIC

  • QUESTION.

  • WE KNOW FROM DOCUMENTS THAT THE

  • DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL SECURITY

  • RELEASE THAT THE SECRETARY OF

  • DEFENSE, SECRETARY OF STATE,

  • DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL

  • INTELLIGENCE, HEAD OF THE CIA

  • AND ALL THE VOTING MEMBERS OF

  • THE NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL

  • UNANIMOUSLY SAID RELEASE THE

  • FUNDS IN THE MILITARY EQUIPMENT

  • TO UKRAINE.

  • THERE ARE TANKS ON THE

  • CRIMEAN-UKRAINE BORDER.

  • DON'T HOLD IT OUT.

  • THE PRESIDENT REJECTED ALL OF

  • THEIR ADVICE, ADVICE

  • RUDY GIULIANI GAVE HIM TO

  • REJECT, ACCORDING TO WHAT RUDY

  • SAID OVER THE WEEKEND.

  • THERE OBVIOUSLY WAS SOME SPLIT

  • BETWEEN WHAT THE

  • STATE DEPARTMENT AND DEFENSE

  • DEPARTMENT THAT WAS IN THE BEST

  • INTEREST OF OUR ALLIES AND WHAT

  • RUDY AND THE PRESIDENT WAS THAT

  • WAS IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF

  • WHATEVER THEY WERE TRYING TO

  • ACCOMPLISH.

  • THAT'S WHAT THE COMMITTEE IS

  • LOOKING FOR.

  • DID DONALD TRUMP USE RUDY,

  • SUPERB LAWYER, AS AN INSTRUMENT

  • OF FOREIGN POLICY -- FOR

  • DONALD TRUMP'S PERSONAL BENEFIT

  • AS OPPOSED TO THE BENEFIT OF OUR

  • ALLIES AND OURSELVES.

>> Neil: ALL RIGHT, LITTLE

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