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MIKE: INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS SAY
THEY WORRY PRESIDENT TRUMP MAY
HAVE SHARED A CLASSIFIED
SURVEILLANCE IMAGES WHEN HE
TWEETED THIS PHOTO THAT APPEARS
TO SHOW AN IRANIAN ROCKET
EXPLODED ON A LAUNCH PAD.
THE PRESIDENT IN THAT TWEET
DISAVOWING ANY U.S. MEDDLING IN
THE EXPLOSION.
MEANWHILE TEHRAN HAS NOT
PUBLICLY POINTED THE FINGER AT
WASHINGTON, SAYING THE FAILURE
TO LAUNCH WAS DUE TO A TECHNICAL
ERROR.
A FORMER STATE DEPARTMENT SENIOR
ADVISOR WHO SERVED IN THE TRUMP
AND GEORGE W. BUSH
ADMINISTRATIONS ALSO SENIOR
FELLOW AT THE CENTER FOR
NATIONAL INTEREST AND AUTHOR OF
"SMART POWER BETWEEN DIPLOMACY
AND WAR".
CHRISTIAN, GOOD MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING.
MIKE: WHAT'S YOUR REACTION TO
THE IRANIAN ROCKET EXPLODING ON
THE LAUNCH PAD AND THE PRESIDENT
SHARING THE PHOTO BEING FULLY
AWARE THAT HE HAS THE POWER TO
DO SO?
>> RIGHT, I DON'T KNOW IF THE
DOCUMENT WAS CLASSIFIED OR NOT.
WE HAVE BEEN COLLECTING OVERHEAD
IMAGERY, WELL KNOWN HISTORICAL
FACT SINCE 1959, THAT WAS THE
CORONA PROGRAM THAT PUT
SATELLITES OVER THE SOVIET UNION
FOR THE FIRST TIME.
THAT WAS FULLY DECLASSIFIED IN
1995, AND IF YOU GO BACK AND
LOOK AT SORT OF MOVIES AND
NONFICTION SINCE THE 90s, IT'S
BEEN A WELL ESTABLISHED FACT.
IT IS NOT NEWS TO ANYONE THAT
WE'RE TAKING OVERHEAD IMAGERY OF
IRAN AND OF COURSE THE PRESIDENT
AS YOU MENTIONED HAS THE
COMPLETE AUTHORITY TO DECLASSIFY
ANYTHING HE WANTS.
HE DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TO GO
THROUGH A PROCESS TO DO IT.
IT IS FROM HIS CONSTITUTIONAL
POWER TO SUPERVISE THE EXECUTIVE
BRANCH.
THE NATIONAL SECURITY
BUREAUCRACY, IF THEY THINK
OTHERWISE, THAT'S THEIR PROBLEM.
AS FAR AS THE ISSUE AT HAND,
IRAN LAUNCHING A SUPPOSED
SATELLITE SPACE LAUNCH VEHICLE,
THAT IS VERY ALARMING.
THAT'S THE PATH NORTH KOREA TOOK
TO GET AN INTERCONTINENTAL
BALLISTIC MISSILE AND EVEN A
FAILURE, EVEN ONES THAT ONLY
LASTS A COUPLE OF SECONDS
PRODUCES VERY VALUABLE
INFORMATION WITH WHICH YOU USE
TO PERFECT YOUR ROCKET.
THIS IS ALARMING IN THAT SENSE.
MIKE: UNITED STATES WAS PUBLIC
ABOUT CYBERATTACK, THE
REVOLUTIONARY GUARD USED TO
ATTACK OIL TANKERS, IS THAT A
SMART WAY TO SEND A SERIOUS
MESSAGE TO THE REGIME WITHOUT
ANY BLOODSHED?
>> YEAH, I THINK THE USE OF
CYBER WARFARE, AT WHICH WE HAVE
BEEN GETTING BIGGER AND BIGGER
CAPABILITIES AND OF COURSE IT'S
SORT OF AGAIN WIDELY KNOWN AND
WAS LEAKED UNFORTUNATELY TO THE
PUBLIC THAT WE USED CYBER -- WE
IN ISRAEL USED CYBER TOOLS TO
DISABLE PART OF IRAN'S NUCLEAR
PROGRAM DURING THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION.
THAT IS A USEFUL TOOL.
IT CAN'T BE THE ONLY TOOL,
THOUGH.
MUST ALSO HAVE SORT OF REAL LIFE
DETERRENCE WITH MILITARY FORCES.
MIKE: ON NORTH KOREA, THERE WERE
SOME HIGH-PROFILE FACE-TO-FACE
MEETINGS BETWEEN PRESIDENT TRUMP
AND LEADER KIM JONG-UN, EVEN A
HISTORIC ONE IN THE DMZ.
THE NORTH KOREANS ARE NOW SAYING
THE HOPES FOR MORE TALKS ARE
FADING.
YOUR THOUGHTS?
>> YOU KNOW, THAT'S SORT OF
CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THEY DO
WITH MESSAGING.
THEY DON'T SAY NEGATIVE THINGS
ABOUT THE PRESIDENT, BUT THEY
WILL SAY NEGATIVE THINGS ABOUT
THE SECRETARY OF STATE OR
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR.
I THINK WE'RE IN A GOOD PLACE
WITH NORTH KOREA.
IT SEEMS THE PROGRESS ONLY
OCCURS WHEN THE TWO LEADERS GET
TOGETHER, WHEN IT GOES BELOW
THAT LEVEL, THERE REALLY AREN'T
FUNCTIONING WORKING GROUPS WHICH
IS A SHAME, BUT AS LONG AS THEY
ARE NOT TESTING NUCLEAR WEAPONS
OR LONG RANGE BALLISTIC MISSILES
MUCH BETTER THAN WE WERE IN THE
PREVIOUS TWO OR THREE
ADMINISTRATIONS.
MIKE: IS THAT A SIGN THAT
SECRETARY OF STATE POMPEO IS
GETTING UNDER THEIR SKIN?
THE FACT HE IS HOLDING FIRM AND
THEY SEEM IRRITATED BY IT?
>> THEY ARE EXTREMELY SENSITIVE
TO ANY SORT OF CRITICISM, AND I
THINK SECRETARY POMPEO IS JUST
STATING THE TRUTH.
SO THAT IS WHAT IT IS.
IT IS ALWAYS INTERESTING TO SEE
THE COLORFUL INSULTS THAT COME
BACK FROM THE KOREA CENTRAL NEWS
AGENCY WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT NORTH
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Trump denies US involvement in Iranian launch pad explosion

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林宜悉 2019 年 10 月 2 日 に公開
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