COMMITTEE WILL DO, MY COMMITTEE,

YOU'VE GOT MR. DURHAM, LOOKING

AT CRIMINAL IT, THE U.S.

ATTORNEY IN CONNECTICUT AND

THE HOROWITZ INSPECTOR GENERAL

REPORT THAT I THINK WILL BE

COMING OUT IN WEEKS NOT DAYS NOT

MONTHS AND I BELIEVE THE REPORT

IS GOING TO BE UGLY REGARDING

THE DEPARTMENT JUSTICE HANDLING

OF THE RUSSIAN PROBE.

I'M GOING TO MAKE WITH THE LT.

GENERAL NEXT WEEK AND I WANT TO

DECLASSIFY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE

AND THE AMERICAN PUBLIC TO HEAR

THE STORY.

I WANT ALL OF THIS INFORMATION

TO COME OUT AND I DON'T WANT

PEOPLE TO BELIEVE WHAT I SAID, I

WANT THEM TO READ FOR THEMSELVES

, HOW BAD IT WAS, HOW

THE WARRANT APPLICATION TO THE

FISA COURT I THINK WAS QUITE

FRANKLY A FRAUD ON THE COURT.

MARIA: A FRAUD ON THE COURT.

THAT WAS SENATE JUDICIARY

COMMITTEE MIX LINDSEY GRAHAM ON

THIS PROGRAM LAST WEEK UPDATING

US ON THE MULTIPLE INVESTIGATION

S INTO THE ALLEGED

FISA ABUSE AND POTENTIAL

WRONGDOING IN LAUNCHING THE

RUSSIA INVESTIGATION.

MY NEXT GUEST IS A CENTRAL

FIGURE FORMER TRUMP CAMPAIGN

FOREIGN POLICY ADVISOR CARTER

PAGE AND CARTER IT'S WONDERFUL

TO HAVE YOU.

>> GREAT TO BE WITH YOU MARIA.

MARIA: YOU HAVE AN ESTEEMED

CAREER I WANT TO START THERE

BECAUSE OUR VIEWERS KNOW THAT

WE'VE COVERED THIS STORY VERY

EFFECTIVELY FROM THE GET GO,

POKING HOLES IN THIS WHOLE IDEA

OF COLLUSION, POKING HOLES IN

THE FISA COURT SITUATION, BUT

YOU HAVE WORKED WITH THE

GOVERNMENT FOR A LONG TIME,

BEFORE THEY ACTUALLY TURNED ON

YOU.

TELL ME YOUR CAREER AS A

GOVERNMENT INFORMANT AFTER YOU

WORKED AT THE PENTAGON AND AFTER

IN THE NAVY TELL US ABOUT IT.

>> WELL I GOT OUT OF THE NAVY

IN 98 AND I WAS ON A RESEARCH

FELLOWSHIP AT A FOREIGN POLICY

THINK TANK AND I WAS ACTUALLY

THE FIRST TIME IT'S A CIVILIAN

AS YOU MENTIONED I SPENT A LOT

OF TIME DOING INTELLIGENCE TASKS

IN THE MILITARY, BUT THAT WAS

THE FIRST TIME WHEN I ACTUALLY

DID STUFF AS A CIVILIAN, AND SO

ONE OF THE GUYS I WORKED CLOSELY

WITH WAS CHRIS STEVENS WHO WAS

THE IRAN DESK OFFICER AT THE

STATE DEPARTMENT IN 98-99 AND WE

HAD A LONG ONGOING DIALOGUE, AND

SO A LOT OF SIMILARITIES BETWEEN

WHAT HAPPENED WITH HIM, AND THE

LACK OF RESPONSIBILITY BY THESE

DEMOCRAT ADMINISTRATIONS.

THAT WAS DURING THE CLINTON

ADMINISTRATION, BUT THE ALSO OF

HIS LIFE WAS REALLY A

CONTINUATION OF THAT.

MARIA: SO THE BOTTOM LYNN IS

YOU'VE WORKED AS A GOVERNMENT

INFORMANT FOR WHAT, TWO DECADES?

>> YES.

MARIA: OKAY, AND SOMEWHERE ALONG

THE LINE, THEY OBVIOUSLY TURNED

ON YOU, BECAUSE THEY WIRETAPPED

YOU.

>> YEAH.

MARIA: FAST FORWARD TO 2013 OR

SO WHEN YOU ARE AN INFORMANT FOR

GOVERNMENT ABOUT A SPY RING IN

NEW YORK, INVOLVING THREE

RUSSIANS.

>> YEAH, WELL LISTEN.

IT WAS SOMETHING WHERE THERE WAS

A LOT, THEY DID AN INDICTMENT.

I SPENT TIME WITH THE FBI IN

2013 GIVING THEM ALL OF THE

INFORMATION THEY NEEDED.

MARIA: THIS IS UNDER THE OBAMA

ADMINISTRATION.

>> IT WAS UNDER THE OBAMA

ADMINISTRATION AND THEN A NUMBER

OF TOP OFFICIALS, ATTORNEY

GENERAL HOLDER, U.S. ATTORNEY

AND JOHN CARLIN IN JANUARY OF

2015 A YEAR BEFORE THE START OF

THE WHEN I JOINED THE I WAS A

VOLUNTEER ON THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN,

THEY HAD THIS INDICTMENT, AND IT

WAS JUST --

MARIA: OF THE THREE RUSSIANS.

>> YEAH, OF THE THREE RUSSIANS

AND SO I WAS ONE OF THE MAIN

SOURCES.

I'M "MALE 1".

MARIA: THAT'S INTERESTING,

BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT A

TIMELINE IN 2013 YOU'RE MALE

NUMBER ONE AND THEY INDICT THESE

PEOPLE AND THE INDICTMENT COMES

DOWN IN JANUARY 2015 AND THEY

NAME YOU.

>> WELL THERE'S THIS BIG THING

ABOUT MASKS AND UNMASKING AND I

WAS VERY LIGHTLY MASKED AND

THERE ARE A LOT OF PROBLEMS IN

THAT INDICTMENT AND THEY REALLY

KIND OF PUT ME OUT ON A LIMB.

MARIA: THAT'S WHAT I

MARIA: I'M BACK WITH FORMER

TRUMP CAMPAIGN FOREIGN POLICY

ADVISOR CARTER PAGE AND YOU WERE

TELLING US ABOUT THIS CASE THAT

YOU HELPED THE GOVERNMENT WITH.

TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED IN 2015

AFTER THE INDICTMENT WAS

HANDED DOWN ON THE RUSSIANS.

>> WELL REALLY, IN MARCH OF

2016, THEY CALLED ME INTO COME

TESTIFY IN THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT

OF NEW YORK.

MARIA: ON THAT CASE?

>> YEAH, AND LISTEN, THERE WERE

SO MANY FALSEHOODS, AND

MISREPRESENTATIONS IN THEIR

INDICTMENT THE PRIOR-YEAR.

I SAID I AM NOT GOING TO LIE IN

COURT.

SIMILAR TO THE FALSE COURT

FILINGS WITH THE DOJ AND THE FBI

HAS SUBMITTED IN THIS CASE, AND

SO IT WAS A LONG BACK AND FORTH

WITH THEM BUT I TOLD THEM, I AM

A MAN OF MY WORD AND I'M NOT

GOING TO, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE

FALSE TESTIMONY LIKE THEY'VE

DONALD VERY SIMILAR BETWEEN THE

FALSE TESTIMONY WHICH THEY DID

AND THAT CASE AGAINST THE

RUSSIANS, AND THE FALSE

TESTIMONY WHICH THEY DID A FEW

MONTHS LATER IN OCTOBER OF 2016

WITH THEIR START OF THE

FISA ABUSE.

MARIA: YOU NEVER ACTUALLY

TESTIFIED IN THE SPY RING CIRCUS

IN TERMS OF THAT, BUT THIS ALL

GOES TO GOVERNMENT INFORM APTS

AND YOU COULD LOOK AT PATRICK BY

RNE FROM OVERSTOCK.COM RIGHT?

>> WELL BASICALLY GOVERNMENT IS

TAKING CONTROL OF PEOPLE'S LIVES

I MEAN, I'VE LOST STEPS OF

HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS

AND HE LOST A COUPLE HUNDRED

MILLION OFF HIS MARKET CAP JUST

BASED ON THESE FALSEHOODS.

MARIA: YOU MEAN THE STOCK LOST

HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS?

>> YES.