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[Jay-Z's "Dead Presidents III"]
♪ ♪
- ♪ High school graduates ♪
♪ Straight to the league ♪
♪ I ain't waitin' for my knee to blow ♪
♪ Yesterday I was needin' this dough ♪
♪ Get it? I was kneadin' this dough ♪
♪ ♪
- Ben, what's up, brother? - What's going on?
- Good to see you, man. - Yes, sir.
- Well, I'll start with asking you, like, obviously,
you're an Australian guy playing here in America.
What was it like growing up in Australia?
Like, give us a little bit of, like,
what was it like growing up for you in your house
with your family, your siblings,
what was it like?
- Well, I am the youngest of six.
Big family.
And we moved around a lot.
So, my dad played professionally,
so he, you know, if he played in Newcastle,
which was about a two-hour flight from Melbourne,
then... we'd travel and move there.
So I moved around a lot when I was younger.
- Got it, and how did that come about?
How did moving to America come about?
- So, Mom didn't want me to go.
And then I had my sister Emily out here,
who kind of pushed it,
so I told her, "I want to go."
And we made it happen.
So I ended up going to Montverde Academy.
- Yep, and why did you want to come to America?
- So, I went to a few camps before I came out,
and nobody knew me.
But by the time I got back to Australia,
everybody, you know, was talking about me
from videos and, you know, Twitter, social media.
So once that started to happen, I just felt comfortable
and I felt like I needed to be over here
to develop my game.
- To develop-- and did you feel like
you wanted that competition that was here?
- Definitely. - You wanted the stage?
- So, I'd look at the high school rankings
that have, you know, top 100, top 50,
and my name would never be there
because I wasn't playing in the States.
- 'Cause you were in Australia. - Right, yeah.
So once I came over, I was like,
"I'm gonna be number one."
- Your senior year at high school,
you started to document your senior year, correct?
- Yeah. - And was that your idea?
Where did that thinking come from?
- So that came from my sister,
and then we sat down and talked about it,
and it was a green light.
So from, say, halfway through my senior year,
that's when we really started filming.
- Yep, and you filmed the whole...
- All the way till the Draft.
- All the way up into the Draft.
And when I look at that, I think about it
like it's either two ways you were thinking.
Either that was a business decision,
like, "I want to make this 'cause I know it'll sell
and we can..." - Right.
- It became a Showtime doc.
Or there's something you wanted to show,
like, "I want to take people on this journey.
I want to show something." Which one was it?
- It was more about showing people
the lifestyle that student athletes live,
and it's not how they think it is and how it should be.
- Yep. - So it was more about
just exposing that.
- So, obviously, after Montverde,
you went to LSU.
You were out, open about being one-and-done, like,
"I'm here for one year..." - Right.
- "And I'm out." So is there even a point
to go to college for that seven, six or seven months?
- I mean, if we didn't,
a lot of people would be losing money.
- Yep. - So, I think
that's the main reason. Obviously, NCAA,
if they didn't have the stars coming through,
then people wouldn't be watching.
- If I was as talented as you,
would I see a point in that six or seven months
of being there?
- In the--I think, no.
I think I would have learned a lot more
being around professional athletes.
Looking at it now, I don't even really know what I learnt
financially or...
just being a person at LSU.
- Yep. - I think I've learned
a lot more with this whole year
being in Philly and being a pro
than I did at LSU.
- So, when you arrived at LSU,
did they have your jerseys, like, in the bookstore?
- Jersey everywhere. They had...billboards.
Before I got there, they had a...
It's like a saying that said, "25 is coming."
So they couldn't put your name there,
but they can put your number.
- Really? - And everybody knew
I was number 25, so...
- Was the billboard, like, on campus?
- All around Louisiana.
- Oh, the whole state, everywhere?
- Yeah. - Wow.
And it was kind of portrayed as, like,
"he's gonna be the savior of LSU, he's coming."
At what point did it start to bother you?
- I think when they started asking more of me,
more photo shoots and...
just meeting with them, with certain things
I have to do during the day.
Like, I'd have class
and then go lift, go practice,
and then, "Oh, Ben, you gotta stay here and do media
and the photo shoot."
So I'd be kind of annoyed,
like, "What am I getting out of this?"
- So, when you saw the billboards,
how did that make you feel about
the business of college sports?
Like, what did you feel like the business of this is about?
- It's a dirty business. - Yep.
- You just have to--I mean, you have to put up with it.
But at the same time, it just taught me a lot.
You know, I have an image and people, and just use that.
But now I have the opportunity to control that
and what I do and who I work with,
so...I mean, it helped me.
At the same time, it was very--
I felt it was really sneaky, kind of.
- Do you think eventually that's something
you wanna take on and talk about?
Like, how we do we fix this in America, this AAU, college--
- I think I want to do it while I'm playing.
- Do you? - I don't think I want to
leave it, you know, until I'm done.
I think I want to do it while I'm playing,
and in some way help.
Even with the documentary, I felt like
that was the start of it.
- At what point for you did it hit you,
like, financially,
life has changed for me?
- With taxes.
- With-- [laughs]
- For sure, for sure.
- At what point did that hit you, like,
"I'm gonna get a million dollars, but I owe--"
- Right, they say a million, you get 500,000.
- Yeah. - It's like, what?
And you gotta pay fees and things like that, so...
- Yeah. - Everyone has to pay taxes.
- But was there a moment for you, like,
when your name got called
that you went like, "I've finally, like--
I'm making a lot of money to play basketball"?
- I don't think it was just one point.
There was a lot of different situations,
from the Nike deal
to going through it with my financial advisor
and just looking at the numbers.
I think that's when I was kind of like,
"Wow, this is a lot of money."
- What was the thing you bought that you regret the most?
- [laughs] There's a few things.
- Like what? - I had two Savannah cats.
[both laugh]
- Yeah, by the way, I was-- I mean...
- I had to get rid of them, though.
They were crazy.
- Are they expensive, those things?
- So, I had one that was around 4,000.
And then I got a male
who was a second generation.
He was... no, he was third generation.
He was 6,000.
The grandparent of that is a serval,
which is a cat-- I think it's, like, this big.
- Yeah. - And it's an actual wild cat.
- And they mix it with domestic cats?
- Yeah. - Got it.
- Pretty sure. - Yeah, I seen you with that
on social media, I'm like,
I don't know if this is an Australian thing...
- Yeah, no, it was a bad purchase.
- But like, I was like, is this guy running a zoo?
- [laughs] - You know, 'cause for us
in America, our exposure to Australia is like,
Outback and, may he rest in peace, the Crocodile Hunter.
So I'm like, well, maybe this is how Australians live.
- No, no, no.
No, it's definitely not how we live.
- What made you get those cats? - I love animals.
- You love all animals? - Yeah.
- Got it. And is there one decision
business-wise for you at a young age
that stuck out to you that was like,
"That was the best business decision I made"?
- Probably firing my...
my last advisor-- financial advisor.
- Your first advisor? - Yeah.
- Wasn't the person you wanted around?
- No, and that was when I was like,
I really need to get this together
before, you know, it gets worse.
- For young people, that's a hard thing to do.
- Oh, yeah. - And is it your goal
to grow the sport of basketball in Australia as you play?
- Definitely. I think there's a lot of kids--
very talented kids back home--
and they understand the game and play the right way.
Once they get over to the States
and play against American kids or whoever it is,
that, you know, there'll be
a lot more Australian players in the league.
- Ben, appreciate it, man.
- Thank you. Thanks for having me.
- Enjoy your trip to Australia. Thanks for coming on the show.
- Appreciate it.
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