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  • -The president's lawyer went on TV and basically admitted

  • that his campaign might have colluded with Russia.

  • For more on this, it's time for "A Closer Look."

  • [ Cheers and applause ]

  • ♪♪

  • Every day, it gets harder to defend Trump's actions

  • in the Russia investigation which is why Trump

  • cycles through more lawyers than a "Law & Order" marathon.

  • "Oh, hey, that guy was a jogger three episodes ago."

  • [ Laughter ]

  • In fact, this week, Trump's nominee for Attorney General

  • William Barr was grilled by Senators

  • at his confirmation hearing about the fact

  • that Trump originally wanted Barr

  • to be his private criminal defense attorney,

  • which would be an obvious conflict of interest.

  • But Barr said he met with Trump once

  • and then never heard back from him.

  • -It was a very brief meeting where essentially the president

  • wanted to know -- he said, "Oh, you know Bob Mueller.

  • How well do you know Bob Mueller?"

  • I told him how well I knew Bob Mueller,

  • and he was interested in that,

  • wanted to know, you know, what I thought about

  • Mueller's integrity and so forth and so on.

  • And I said, "Bob is a straight shooter

  • and should be dealt with as such."

  • So he asked me for my phone number.

  • I gave it to him, and I never heard from him again.

  • [ Laughter ]

  • -Well, it's obvious why.

  • I mean, we've all seen Trump's tweets.

  • I mean...

  • what are the odds he wrote down a phone number correctly?

  • [ As Trump ] Yeah, dial this -- 213-55K-crying-emoji-8.

  • [ Laughter ]

  • What do you mean it's not ringing?

  • [ Normal voice ] So Barr didn't want to be Trump's lawyer.

  • No respectable lawyer does.

  • That's why Trump is stuck with

  • outer borough ambulance chasers like Rudy Giuliani.

  • Although Rudy doesn't really look like he chases ambulances.

  • They probably just follow him when he goes out for a walk.

  • [ Laughter ]

  • But apparently --

  • [ Applause ]

  • But apparently, even Rudy is having a hard time with the job,

  • especially as Special Counsel Robert Mueller

  • prepares to issue his final report.

  • "Vanity Fair" reported yesterday that Rudy fears that the report

  • will be horrific for Trump and that the mounting pressure

  • has also strained Giuliani's relationship with Trump.

  • "Rudy hates the job.

  • Trump is very hard to deal with."

  • Oh, you're just finding that out now?!

  • [ Laughter ]

  • Come on, Rudy, you went into this job

  • with your eyes wide open, and I do mean wide open.

  • [ Laughter ]

  • You look like you just saw a pretty lady in an old cartoon.

  • [ Ah-oogah! ]

  • [ Laughter and applause ]

  • We spent a lot of time on that today.

  • [ Laughter ]

  • And it really does seem like the pressure of the job

  • is getting to Rudy because last night,

  • he went on CNN and blurted out

  • another one of his trademark accidental confessions.

  • Rudy was interviewed by CNN's Chris Cuomo,

  • and the way these two yelled at each other was like watching

  • two guys play cards in the back of a butcher shop.

  • -They hated Trump. Hated. -"Hate"'s your word.

  • But clearly -- -No, when you say that a man --

  • -But the Inspector General, two of them,

  • said it didn't affect their work.

  • -You think it's fair?

  • -I wouldn't want to be investigated by anybody,

  • and it was the right move to remove them.

  • No, they didn't.

  • -By the time they were finished. -Yes, they did.

  • They don't pay any attention to the platform.

  • -I was raised by a guy who would have corrected the punctuation

  • in the party platform. I'm saying that, that was --

  • -Chris, let me explain -- -The guy was the head

  • of the A.G. at the time was his campaign guy.

  • -I'm hyperactive about the probe.

  • Chris, let's be truthful. Let's be truthful.

  • -Always. Always. -Come on, now.

  • -Mom!

  • The only thing missing from that conversation

  • was a few salami rolls hanging on strings.

  • [ Laughter ]

  • That interview should have had a voiceover from Ray Liotta.

  • [ Indistinct arguing ]

  • -As far back as I could remember,

  • I always wanted to be a gangster.

  • -And that was all -- That was, like --

  • [ Cheers and applause ]

  • That was, like, not even a minute into it.

  • Rudy starts every interview like he's in hour five

  • of a police interrogation.

  • "I want to welcome our next guest, Rudy Giuliani.

  • -You got me! I'll tell you everything you want to know!

  • And then Cuomo asked Rudy about the latest bombshell

  • in the Russia investigation.

  • Trump campaign's chairman Paul Manafort

  • shared political polling data with a business associate

  • tied to Russian intelligence,

  • and that's when Rudy made a stunning claim.

  • He never said the campaign didn't collude with Russia,

  • just that Trump himself didn't collude with Russia.

  • -Now you have Paul Manafort giving poll data --

  • -I never said -- -That winds up leading to

  • this coincidence.

  • -Well, you just misstated my position.

  • I never said there was no collusion between the campaign

  • or between people in the campaign.

  • -Yes, you have. -I have no idea -- I have not.

  • I said the President of the United States.

  • He said he didn't. He didn't say nobody.

  • How would you know that nobody in your campaign --

  • -He actually did say that, Rudy. He said nobody.

  • -Well, I never said that. >> And then he said,

  • "As far as I know." -If he said that, he said it

  • in -- Well, as far as he knows, that's true!

  • -Look at him!

  • [ Laughter ]

  • Even he looks surprised by what he just said.

  • [ Laughter and applause ]

  • Either that, or he's got a binder clip behind his head

  • pulling back all of his skin.

  • [ Laughter ]

  • He looks like a grandpa at a theme park

  • who didn't realize how fast the roller coaster was.

  • [ Laughter and applause ]

  • Also, also, also -- yes.

  • You did say there was no collusion

  • and you didn't say it once or twice.

  • You said it a bunch of times.

  • -Russian collusion. Here's what they found.

  • Zero. Nada. Nothing.

  • If anything, it's proof there was no collusion.

  • Nobody talked about Russians. Nobody knew about Russians.

  • There was no collusion with the Russians.

  • No collusion with the Russians.

  • There was no collusion.

  • There was no Russian collusion.

  • No Russian collusion. Case over.

  • Was there collusion? Come on.

  • Nobody believes anymore there was collusion.

  • -Think about how much their argument has changed.

  • It went from there were no contacts with Russians

  • to there was no collusion with Russians

  • to we tried to collude, but nothing came of it

  • to collusion is not a crime

  • to there was collusion, but it didn't involve Trump.

  • If this keeps going, Rudy is going to be telling Trump,

  • "It's not jail, it's a gated community."

  • [ Laughter and applause ]

  • Now...

  • We don't -- We don't know.

  • We don't know exactly what Trump's level of involvement was

  • in collusion, but we do know that as a politician

  • and president, Trump has always admired

  • Russian President Vladimir Putin and sought to emulate him.

  • Even before he ran for president,

  • he was desperate to be Putin's friend.

  • -Do you have a relationship with Vladimir Putin,

  • a conversational relationship?

  • -I do have a relationship.

  • I spoke indirectly and directly with President Putin

  • who could not have been nicer.

  • I was in Moscow a couple months ago.

  • I own the Miss Universe pageant.

  • And they treated me so great.

  • Putin even sent me a present.

  • Beautiful present with a beautiful note.

  • -[ As Trump ] It was a beautiful note, handwritten,

  • and it was delivered by a raven in the middle of the night.

  • [ Laughter and applause ]

  • Just tapped...

  • his beak, you know, his beak tapped, and that woke me up.

  • [ Normal voice ] And we also know that Trump

  • has had all kinds of business entanglements with Russians

  • and Putin, in particular, including the fact that

  • as late as the summer of 2016,

  • he was in talks with Putin to build a Trump Tower in Moscow.

  • He was even going to entice Putin

  • by giving him an apartment in the building.

  • -One of the ideas for that Trump building,

  • according to one of his business associates,

  • was to give the top floor, the penthouse apartment

  • in a 250-apartment block, to Vladimir Putin,

  • the Russian president, as a way of attracting buyers.

  • -Trump's plan was to attract buyers by telling them

  • you get to live in the same building as Vladimir Putin.

  • Can you imagine what it would be like to have Putin

  • as your upstairs neighbor?

  • [ Russian accent ] Hello, would you mind

  • turning down your music?

  • Otherwise I poison your dog.

  • [ Laughter ]

  • "Okay. I see you at co-op meeting!

  • [ Laughter ]

  • [ Normal voice ] Trump repeatedly denied

  • he had any sort of business relationship with Russia,

  • but that line changed once we found out

  • about the deal to build a Trump Tower in Moscow.

  • Trump said, "If I did do it,

  • there would have been nothing wrong."

  • But there would have been something wrong.

  • It would have violated the Constitution.

  • There's a section of the Constitution

  • called the emoluments clause that specifically forbids

  • the president from taking gifts from foreigners.

  • And we know that because during the election,

  • Donald Trump supporters kept saying Hillary was breaking it.

  • -Every foreign gift, every foreign speech

  • while she was... -It's a big charge.

  • -...Senator or Secretary of State, every one --

  • No, it's not a big charge. It's the U.S. Constitution.

  • There's a section in the Constitution

  • called the emoluments clause.

  • It says, "No one, nor their spouse

  • can take money from foreigners."

  • She has to be guilty of 70 or 100 counts

  • just on that one charge.

  • -You think Hillary's guilty because she had a foundation

  • that gave out malaria shots to kids in Africa?

  • Trump had a charity,

  • and he used it to buy two portraits of himself.

  • Although when it comes to Trump portraits,

  • this remains my favorite.

  • [ Laughter and applause ]

  • Look at that, the difference between that portrait

  • and the actual Donald Trump is like the difference

  • between Spider-Man in the comics

  • and the Spider-Man in Times Square.

  • [ Laughter and applause ]

  • It's the difference between the Big Mac in the commercial

  • and the one you actually get in your drive-through bag.

  • [ Laughter ]

  • And on top of that, Trump and Putin have had

  • several private meetings with no one else in attendance.

  • And we have no idea what they discussed in those meetings.

  • The only people who do know are the Russians

  • thanks to note-taking practices they developed

  • during the Soviet era.

  • The "Washington Post" reported yesterday

  • the United States has no detailed record

  • of Trump's five face-to-face interactions with Putin

  • over the past two years.

  • Russia, on the other hand, almost certainly does.

  • The interpreters working for Soviet leaders

  • were trained to take nearly verbatim stenographic notes.

  • Can you imagine how hard it is

  • to take verbatim stenographic notes of Donald Trump?

  • Even closed captioning has a hard time

  • following what he's saying.

  • -God bless the United Schtates.

  • Thank you very much.

  • [ Laughter and applause ]

  • -That's why --

  • [ Cheers and applause ]

  • That's why their argument keeps changing.

  • They don't have an argument,

  • and the reality is slowly sinking in.

  • Trump can say he didn't know he was colluding with Putin

  • because Putin hypnotized him, and Rudy would say --

  • -As far as he knows, that's true!

  • -This has been "A Closer Look."

  • [ Cheers and applause ]

  • ♪♪

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