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We were talking about racism earlier
And we're just going to have this- - If you're scared about talking about racism I think you should turn away.
I've been planning-
Like, it's been on my mind, yeah
I want to make a video about racism in the UK as a British born East Asian.
But erm- - It still exists.
I can talk about racism for like a whole day.
It's something I'm really passionate about
And something Tamanna is really passionate about as well.
So, we thought we would talk about it today.
It's going to be a bit... controversial and a bit sensitive
But it's got to be done because no one likes to talk about it.
Racism in the UK is so subtle
That people are too scared to say anything
But I think - - Which is why we need to talk about it!
But I think the problem is that because it is so subtle
people will think that it doesn't exist.
It does exist!
It definitely does exist!
It exists, but if you say to people, "Oh this has happened to me",
They just think, "Oh...but you're probably being a bit sensitive"
Or you know what I mean?
Or "You're looking into things a bit too much"
But they don't understand that every day occurrences of little things
can really get to people.
I think the problem is the definition of racism itself.
So like, I feel like generally people just think racism is discrimination against a person of a certain race.
(However there are different forms of racism. Racism is more than just explicit racial acts).
I just feel like there are different levels of racism
So you kind of get the "explicit racism"
which is like when someone starts shouting at you on the street,
Calling you names, or like spitting at you, and throwing stuff at you
But I think nowadays it's more systematic (Racism can also be systematic and implicit, which is why racism in the UK can be subtle).
But like as you get older,
So like, when I was younger
I used to get called names, people would spit at me,
People would like tell me to go back to my own country,
And throw stones at me,
Throw eggs at me,
Egg my house, things like that.
That's just disgusting...
But those are normally by young kids
Young male kids who are around 10 years old or like 13 years old
But as you get older, so like now we're working, it's a different kind of racism.
And it's very... subtle...
- I don't know how to [word it]. No, it's really systematic
So I think it's really ingrained in our society
That people are treated in a certain way
Or like they'll have an unconscious bias about someone because of race/ethnicity, whatever you'd like to call it.
It's hard to describe...
Because they have policies and they talk about "equality" and all that jazz
If you say, "Oh, I think I'm being discriminated against because of my race"
People are like, "No, you're not!"
Because there's HR and equality policies
And there's this and that
And it's all just...
It's hard to talk about
I feel like when you're younger you get that explicit racism where people are calling you names, things like that.
But now I'm older and at work, it's more like an ignorance thing?
Like they're not aware about your culture, your background...
*not good at explaining lol*
And how...it affects you? I don't know how to word it.
It is massively ignorance because they will say something
That is offensive
Like you'd get offended by it
But they'd have no idea what they're saying
Like, we're both Asian but we're different kinds of Asian
We're different kinds of Asian
But in the UK
Asian is her Asian. Brown Asian.
My Asian they call us "Oriental"
They don't call us "Asian"
Wow, you're like a dish
We're a f***ing dish
Yeah literally you are! -I'm an exotic dish!
You're Oriental! Like what?
The thing is, right
I always used to use the word "Oriental"
Like me and my friends, my fellow Yellow friends
We always used the word "Oriental"
Just because it differentiated us between each other (South Asian vs. East Asian).
And it makes it easier for other people
I like to say "East Asian"
That's what I [prefer to say too]
But everyone used to say Oriental (and many people now still say Oriental)
Even I used to say Oriental
But like the last few years (~5 years ago) I've just found it a bit offensive
I just prefer to use the word "East Asian"
Don't call us Oriental. Please!
It's more geographic. It makes sense!
Because you're talking about geographic location, right?
Yeah! - You say east!
But like when I was in school - - I'm South Asian. [East Asia] is people who are from China, Japan, Vietnam wherever
And like, when I was at school, I was like, "Yeah I'm Asian!"
And they'd be like, "No, you're not Asian!"
Like, "Excuse me?"
Like you're trying to define me? - Excuse me?
Like I don't know my own identity?
I guess people don't know my ethnicity as well on YouTube
But like, everyone's been asking about it...
Which I don't really understand why it's such an issue
I'm Pakistani! My name is Rezwana Khan! (private joke lol)
Like I get soooo many questions of people going, "Where are you from?"
"Where are you really from?"
"Where are you really really REALLY from?"
or "Where are you ORIGINALLY from?"
OMG! This is going to get me mad
Because I get asked this
Where are you from then?
I'm from UK!
I'm from the UK!
But~! - Were you born in the UK?
(sarcastic) WELL NAHHHHHHH!
I'm from the UK
But if someone asks me though
"Where are you from?"
My natural answer is, "I'm from the UK."
Because this was where I was born, this was where I was raised. That's where I'm from!
And then they'd be like, "Oh no, but like, where are you REALLY from?"
And I'm just like, "...London?"
And they're like, "No, but like where are you like really REALLY from?"
And I'm just like, "...London?!
And they're like, "No, but you know, where are you like ORIGINALLY from? Like where are your parents from?"
And I'm just like, "Yeah...That's the question you wanted to ask!"
That was the question!
That's the question you wanted to ask!
But you know what, the other day I was asked...
So this woman came from America- bless her, she seemed really sweet.
And I was with one of my friends, so my friend is Black Caribbean basically
So we're there getting breakfast and she says, "Oh, where are you guys from?"
And we just looked at each other like, "Sorry, what do you mean?"
Which one do you mean- Do you mean this one or do you mean THIS one?
There are so many ways of answering that question.
Like I don't know which one you want to know but bless her.
"Where are you originally-" like don't ask that question!
If you want to know, you go, "What is your ethnicity?"
There we go!
But I feel like that's a bit of a [personal question]. (I personally dislike being asked my ethnicity by strangers because I think it's irrelevant).
I don't mind if somebody asks my ethnicity and they knew-
Like if you're going to ask-
Yeah, if you're going to ask that question, you say, "What is your ethnicity?"
You don't say "Where are you really from?"
If you're going to ask me what my ethnicity is and I say Bangladesh
And you're like- Bangladesh?
Bangladesh!? I seriously need to school myself haha
If I said Bengali, and that means nothing to you, why are you asking?!
Like if you know about like the differences between Bangladeshis, Pakistanis and Indian people
It just becomes a thing. (It just becomes a label. People are only "curious" so that they can categorise you).
Oh! And the answer to the question is that...
My Dad is from Hong Kong
And my Mum is from Vietnam
But technically we're ethnically Chinese
But it's very very confusing (to me at least lol) so...
There you go
THERE YOU GO! The answer is out! OK, you can go now!
Someone was SO curious that they even PM'd me on Instagram!
Just to ask me where am I "really" from!
Like that's crazy!
Why would you do that!?
What about this person? What ethnicity were they?
I don't really care, they were Asian of some kind.
It's always the other Asians!
They always feel the need to know what you are, what you do, what everything.
My kind of Asians do that as well actually
It's such an Asian thing to do. - It's an Asian thing
It's just because they want to know whether you know-
Like OK, now you know,
Now you know, what is this piece of information going to do for you?
Change their lives! - Does it make you like me less?
Or like me? Does it really matter!? Like seriously!
They might be related to you
People were like debating where I'm from
I'm not Korean by the way. I just can speak Korean (kinda). That's all.
Everyone was just like...
Now they know...
Now you know, can you shut up now!?
No more DM's on your Instagram!
Don't DM me asking me!
They were like, "Hi, can I ask you a question?"
I was like, "OK...Depends what it is."
And he was like, "I'm just wondering like where are you like really from? Because you're not British, right?"
And I was just like, "Er...excuse me?"
Wow...they didn't even let you answer the question!
Like they just asked you a question and they just assumed
I know! I know! But it's like why would you PM someone
Just to ask them where they are "really" from?
That is so rude!
I'm sorry, if you're watching this, that was so rude! Don't do that!
You can't even define it sometimes, do you know what I mean?
There are people who-
Some of my friends they...this is a weird one
So they're ethnically Indian, but their parents then migrated to Tanzania
Yeah yeah yeah yeah!
But they now live in the UK, like born and raised in the UK
But what are they ethnically then? Like how do they class themselves?
Yeah, because it's like part of your identity! - Because they're both!
So like my mum is from Vietnam, and my Dad is from Hong Kong
And I grew up hearing like 4 different languages
Because my Mum speaks Vietnamese, Cantonese-
We speak Cantonese at home
But like Cantonese is my Mum's 5th language or something
How many languages does your Mum speak?
My Mum speaks- Wait...
Wait- my Mum speaks...*counts again*
Are you sure?
She speaks Cantonese
She speaks Vietnamese
She speaks her own Chinese dialect (Teochew/Diojiu)
It's like a rare dialect
She speaks English
And then... she kind of speaks Mandarin as well.
Oh, by the way!
Mandarin and Korean are just two languages that I learnt myself.
The language I speak at home is Cantonese.
There you go~
Because people were like asking, "Are you Taiwanese or something?"
And I'm like, "No..."
And people were asking, "Are you half White?"
And I'm like, "No...do I look like I'm half White?"
You look full White!
But didn't you say your sister thought I was half White?
I remember you said that someone in your family thought I was half White
And I was like, "No, she's not."
But...WHY would you think I'm half White?
Do I look like...
Do I look White to you?
I have no idea why she said that. - I don't know why she said that!
Has anyone else said that to you?
I've heard it a few times...
But not often. Rarely.
Self identity is such a complex but simple thing as well though if you think about it.
But what I think is wrong is that people identify YOU as something
So you don't even get a chance sometimes to say how you identify, because no one cares
They're like, "I see you as Indian"
And I'm like, "But I'm not Indian"
My country fought for independence! Like can you respect my ancestors?
Are you serious? Did someone really think you were Indian?
No, I have been called that. Someone thought I was Brazilian. That was really weird.
I did have my hijab on! Like literally!
And then they started speaking Spanish to me and thought I was Brazilian
And I was just like, "Nononono".
I clearly look like some sort of South Asian.
People are ignorant.
Like I know there are a lot of South Asians where we live, right?
But people are just ignorant.
Like they just saw you as Chinese.
Yeah! - You could have been anything!
You could have been any type of East Asian! - Yeah! YEAH!
You could have even been South Asian!
They would have called you Chinese! - Exactly
Like basically, anyone who is Yellow in the UK
They will think you are Chinese
Yeah, they don't even ask you!
You could have been Japanese
They don't assume [otherwise].
They can't tell you apart- -And they don't care to!
They don't care, they'll just assume everyone is like... Chinese
People will like approach you on the road and be like "Ni hao this" and "Ni hao that"
Frickin hell yeah! Mandarin is not even my f***king language!
Like don't even...
They don't even care, it's really bad!
Agh, it's just so annoying
Self-identity is such a complex thing because like,
I was born and raised in England, lived here my whole life.
My Dad is from Hong Kong,
My Mum is from Vietnam,
But like, my Mum is... like technically she is ethnically Chinese
But she was born and raised in Vietnam as well
My grandparents were like born and raised in Vietnam as well.
So it's kind of like...
Their culture has assimilated both Vietnamese and Chinese culture together
But the thing is, Vietnamese culture is very similar to Chinese culture anyway
So they kind of overlap in some ways
If that makes sense?
So like, if you've got a Vietnamese surname, you will have a Chinese surname equivalent.
So like, my Mum has got a Vietnamese surname
But she's technically (ethnically) Chinese?
It's very confusing...
Does that even make sense? - She's got a Vietnamese surname?
Yeah, so like... my cousins are like...
A lot of my cousins have Vietnamese surnames
But they're technically (ethnically) Chinese
There are a lot of us in the UK actually
Like you'll have Vietnamese surnames but you're technically Chinese
But people think you're Vietnamese because you've got a Vietnamese surname
But what's happened is that
The family from years back, migrated to Vietnam
And they kind of assimilated by changing their surname
But Vietnamese surnames have Chinese equivalents, if that makes sense...
Does that even make sense? - Yeah, no, it does.
It's very confusing
So that just makes the whole identity thing even more confusing
Because like, I have cousins in Canada who identify themselves as Vietnamese
But they're technically Chinese, but they identify themselves as Vietnamese
Because they have Vietnamese surnames and they can speak Vietnamese as well
But they don't speak Chinese
So it's all very...you know lol
Because there's been so much- - It's so confusing!
There's been so much migration that you can't say I am one thing or another.
Exactly! - And if you trace it back further then all of us used to be...
A jumbled hot mess
We all used to be Black!
Yeah! But it's true, right?
And Black people get so much like- [racism].
There's just so much racism from all races towards Black people!
I'm not making it out like Black Africans and Black Caribbeans also
It's not necessarily racism, it's more discrimination
But I'm not saying they can't be discriminated of people of other ethnicities
But there's so much racism towards Black people!
Even in my community, do you know what I mean?
Or being darker!
Yeah, being darker for sure. - And I sit there and I think...
But you know that they are actually the default, in a sense right? - Yeah
And we all mutated because of different environments or just general mutation, like in development, into what we are
So how are we going to be racist to people?
For me, I'll talk about racism on my end as a Yellow person
An East Asian person...
Yeah, well, if you're Brown, I'm going to be Yellow
If they're Black, White and Brown, I'm going to be Yellow, OK?!
Pick yourself a colour. Go on! Go girl!
We're all just colours anyway!
When I went to Barcelona there was a girl who stayed in my hostel, right?
And she was from China, like born and raised in China.
And when we asked what her name was she said Yellow
And I did not feel comfortable in public calling her Yellow!
- I was like... - "Hey Yellow!"
And I tried to explain to her why and she was like,
"No, just call me Yellow!"
I was like, "Dammit."
Why would you call yourself Yellow? What kind of name is that?
I seriously don't think she knew the racial implications for that word.
She translated her name, whatever her name was,
And it happened to be Yellow...
That was a really uncomfortable moment
Sorry, I just had to share that
Like you know those ethnic tick boxes you get?
Demographic tick boxes?
They ask you like, "What is your ethnicity?" from the NHS and stuff.
Do you know what I'm talking about?
They'll say, "Tick your box. What is your ethnicity?"
You'll have like: Asian, British Asian,
And like...Chinese has their own box
Chinese is not even under Asian
And then if you're like mixed, or not even Chinese, you're like WTF do I tick?!
You're "Other"! "Other ethnic background"!
You have to tick "other ethnic background" because they don't consider Yellow as Asian...
Which is really stupid
Yeah, you're Other.
I get mad every time I see it
Yeah, I get mad every time I see it!
But I saw one recently and it changed, they put Chinese under Asian, which was nice.
I need to change it at work actually like I've seen it for a while but just not-
I've seen it and it pisses me off!
It's like er... Asian? Chinese? Other Asian?
Yeah, other Asian!
I would literally
Instead of ticking the Chinese box, tick Other Asian and then put Chinese next to it
Growing up I lived in an area-
Like I wasn't born and raised in London
I live in a town that's close to London but it's a small town that's-
Kind of... *brain fart*
Wait, how do I say this?
We live in a small town that's away from London, but close enough to London, but not part of London
So when I went to school I was the only Asian person- East Asian person there
Out of the whole of high school...
No, I wasn't actually. There was another Chinese guy in my form room. (I was the only East Asian female in my year group. The whole high school had a maximum of ~10 East Asian students).
And they always tried to like...
- Hook you up - Hook us up. Yepppp.
Tried to hook us up together...
Why do they do that?
Like they don't do that but like,
But if there's another new Asian guy, they're like,
"Oh Tam! What about?
I'm like, "No. No Asian. No."
They just assume that you're attracted to your own race, right?
In your form room, did it work?
OHHHHH. No because we were like family friends
And I was like, I hated it so much
I was like, "Why you putting us together?!"
"Just because we're both Yellow, yeah, don't mean like we have to BE TOGETHER!"
Actually, I didn't talk back then, so that was all going through my head
I just like...ignored it
Like one of my friends was talking about it
When she was young, where she grew up,
Where she grew up, it was like predominantly White
She like one of the only Black people in her school, right?
And she was called like all these nasty things
Like "shit skin"
Yeah, literally! That's when I realised, "OMG overt racism"
Like where we were brought up, I didn't face overt racism because there's loads of South Asians, right?
But like, I've heard the word "Paki" being said, but not to me.
To other people, whilst I was there for example.
Because I'm like the only (nearly only) East Asian one in my school
I used to get a lot of racism as well
But there are like different levels
So I feel like EVERY East Asian person will have gone through this
Because amongst ethnic minorities, we are usually the minorities of minorities anyway
In the UK
So like...you're going to get name-called.
That is like the most basic level of racism you are going to experience
Like 99%, I am like 99% sure that every fellow Yellow in the UK has experienced some kind of name-calling.
They'll call you like "chink" or like "chinky"
Tell you to go back to your own country
Or like, "CHING CHANG CHONG!"
Trying to like "imitate" you
Or be like, "NI HAO!"
And the thing is, although "ni hao" means "hello" in Mandarin
They say it in such a mocking way that they are taking the piss
It's not like...
They don't mean it.
They're not trying to be friendly. Otherwise they would have just said "hello" for God's sake!
They're saying it because they're ignorant and they're trying to be- It's racist! - Exactly!
They're taking the piss!
If they wanted to be friendly to you, they would just speak English!
You see what I mean?
Like they don't randomly come up to us and go, "namaste"
That's just like WHAT THE HELL!?
It's just taking the piss. It's not like- - Yeah, they're just taking the piss
But I've had people who come up to me and be like "ni hao" but they're like...
Trying to be...friendly?
That's just so ignorant! You're born in the UK! Like just speak English!
Those who have like Yellow fever, who are like...
Want to like "get in" to the Asian culture
I was out one time with my sister
And some guy was like coming up to me and just said
Oh where are you- (wait, no, he didn't say that lol)
Something like, "Do you like anime? Do you like Japanese anime?"
Do you watch hentai? Which is like anime porn...
And I was just like... - EUGGGGH
I didn't even know [what that was at the time lol]
And I was just like, "...you what?" - You are kidding!
I can talk about Asian fetish for like frickin ages, right
It makes me really angry but like...
Some guys just like come for you because
Just because you're Asian
And it's like, "F**K OFF"
They like you for the colour of your skin and not for what you are
And it's just so annoying
But like basic level
If you're East Asian in the UK, you're going to get name-called.
That's the basic thing. Like 99% it's going to happen.
And it goes a bit extra, I've had people spit at me.
And tell me to go back to my own country.
I had that happen to me at school, I'm always going to remember that.
He spat at me and told me to go back to my own country.
I think I was... 13 at the time? I was in Year 7 (11-12 years old)
And you're like, "I'm here! Where can I go? This is my home"
Well back then I didn't talk. I just kind of glared at him and just left it.
I've had people egg my house
No basically, I've had things happen to me
Or happen to my family
Nothing racial is ever said but you can't help but think it's down to racism.
*Down to race.
It can work in many ways...like...
- I didn't face- - This is the thing where-
I didn't face racism like that, right?
Again, because I'm South Asian (and where we live the majority are South Asian).
But! I remember when I was in Year 6 and I was 10 years old at this point, right?
This girl who was my friend at the time- no longer is
OK, she basically said to a Black girl,
I don't know what happened...
We were in the playground playing and this girl, so she's Black Caribbean
Said something to my friend
And my friend, as a response (she's not my friend),
But like, she basically said, "Well you're Black!"
And this friend of mine was Bengali herself
Like she literally went, "Oh, well, YOU'RE Black"
And I was like...flabbergasted
I was like how could she say that?
And literally I said to my then friend
I was like, "I'm not friends with racist people"
So I was just a loner for like a few days
I was like, "I don't care!"
I'm a social justice warrior!
Like, how can you say that to someone?
My parents taught me never to treat anyone like that
Ah, it was so disgusting...
My parents can be so racist though...
My parents can be so racist...
But they're so ignorant
They're like... *hesitating to criticise my parents* lol
They're like... *decides to criticise my parents
They just like White people...Sorry
They just like White people or fellow Yellows
They don't like Brown or Black that much
And all my friends are like Brown, Black or Yellow
Why do you think that is? What's that down to?
Er, what do you think?
Stereotypes on TV and [on the] media being played
But again, this is a form of assimilation, right?
We were saying about how East Asians are more likely to-
And I'm not going to say "integrate", I'm going to say "assimilate"
Assimilate. -They do don't they?
Lose aspects of their culture, give themselves- I'm not saying this is a bad thing, right?
But people- - Oh it's-
*Battery died* (Stupid Sony A5100
Battery keeps dying
Yeah, I was having a good old rant
We were having a good old...like...
What were we talking about?
We were talking about the terrorist attacks
In the UK...
And erm...what was I saying?
We've lost that like...
We were like on fire!
It just makes me angry every time I see it
I just feel sorry for all my Muslim friends every time it happens
But do you know what's sad?
Like when we see those attacks, we feel sorry for the people
But at the same time, we start thinking, "Please don't be Muslim."
Yeah I know
Because everyone starts making negative stereotypes
Basically this is what happens, right?
If it's a White person, they're a frickin' lone wolf
If it's a Black person, it's always about being a thug/gangster stuff
If they're Brown, it's always about being Muslim and being a terrorist
(And Yellow people are forever invisible in the media lol)
What was I saying before?
I heard there was an incident up north
Where some guy, some White guy was
He took hostage of some people in Job Centre? Or something?
But that wasn't being reported as terrorism
But you know following these things, things happens to mosques for example
So people were like...
They will like... burn mosques and all that jazz, and that's not reported then.
Isn't that a form of terrorism?
Because people are scared and in that-
It seems like it's only terrorism if the person is Muslim or something like that
Or Brown! Some kind of Brown
It's so stupid
It's like people just put it all on them
When it's like...why do you have to fight for your-
Like you're not the one who is doing it
Like why do you have to feel sorry?
Why do you have to feel responsible?
Why do you have to feel responsible?
Like how we should apologise for it or like we should show it's not part of our religion, right?
And then people will do these like protests, and you'll get hundreds and thousands and people come
And then you'll get us raising money for things
And then you'll get like Muslim doctors and nurses doing things etc.
Or doing whatever, and it's just not enough - But we were just saying that-
We were just saying it's the Muslim community who are raising these concerns
And like telling the government that these people are radicalised etc.
They've raised the [alarm]-
They've told people
They've informed the government
But the government didn't do anything about it!
And then the Muslim people get the blame!
It's just... *sigh*
You just can't win
I don't understand this world...
Neither do I
I had a really bad argument with one of my friends the other day
He's Korean, right?
So he's from Korea, so he's a bit ignorant about other things
And he has a friend who's Muslim
So we were out when the (terror) attack happened
And then he kind of like got a negative view about...
UK and terrorists basically
And he was like, "Oh, I'm not going to meet my Muslim friend"
Because he... he... yeah...
And I got sooo mad
I was like, "You go meet her, yeah!?"
You go f***in' meet her, yeah!?
Whoa, you are actually kidding!
I know! I was like, "How can you say that!?"
I am so sorry...I am actually speechless
He did meet up with her in the end
I told him, just go and meet her, she's your friend
There's nothing wrong with her! Just because- - But what was he thinking?
Exactly! That kind of thinking!
No, but him going there like...was he still like...
Like was he having to puke up beforehand- - I don't know, I don't know!
But it pissed me off so bad
I was like, No!
Not all Muslims are like that
It's just those certain people , like you don't have to generalise the WHOLE frickin' religion
And he was like, "Well, why are terrorists always Muslim then?" and stuff like that
These people aren't even frickin' Muslim!
And then he was like, "Why don't Muslims DO something to like show [it's not part of their religion]?"
He's just on that same retric. That same retric.
Yeah! And [he] was like, "Why aren't they -
Can I just say these mad people... *listening to SatNav*
OK. I have something to say, chick.
But like..do you know what
Those people are not Muslim
By the way, I'm just going to put it out there
Of course they're not!
No, but some people don't know that. Some people-
Are you dumb!?
Are you dumb, bruv?
Are you dumb, bruv, yeah!?
Of course they're not Muslim!!!
But literally, you have to tell people
And like some people who are aware
They're like, "You don't need to tell us."
And I'm like "I know, but I feel like I have to state"
Like that's not part of my religion - All the time!
We don't believe in murder, we believe in charity
It makes me so angry...
I can't believe he said that he wouldn't see his friend because she's Muslim
I know! He did meet up with her in the end though
He met her mult-multiple *struggling to speak English* multiple times
Ok, that's alright then
I was like, "I told you! I told you! So stupid!"
I got so mad, I was like close to cutting ties lol
You were like, "I'm not gonna be seeing YOU any time soon, mate!"
And then I realised, no, he's ignorant.
Let me change his mind.
Let me change his way of thinking
That's what you've got to do
And he hasn't been exposed to it really...
Exactly! That's the problem!
And that's what people feed on!
I was like, if he thinks like that, what about the rest of people in Asia?
Who are so ill-informed!
And that's exactly what it is
They feed on these people who lack exposure
Because the media portray it in such a way ...
That it's like wrong
And like people who don't live in multicultural cities in the West
They feed up on these sort of reports
And it's like...
You have it SO wrong...
OH MY GAWD~
OH MY GAWWWWD
OH MY GAWD
I've hijacked Teresa's channel
I look like a weirdo-
OMG, excuse me, I'm like your biggest fan!
Can I have like your autograph?
This happens all the time...OMG, guys...
What shall I do?
- OMG I love your channel so much! - She keeps asking me where I'm from
Where you from? No, like, where are you REALLY REALLY from?
Are you like Brazilian or something?
How did you know!?
Hello! We are back in the car again!
We were talking about racism
And like the camera died when we were within a passionate flow of speech or something
And now we can't remember what we were talking about
It's more about ignorance
People are unaware about the culture, the background, and so they say things because they're just unaware
And that's okay, but like educate yourselves
And expose yourselves to different things
Like you will be ignorant to certain things, then don't say certain things, do you know what I mean?
Or then ask about things...
That's all it really is~
Oh, I remember when I was like 16 and I wanted to volunteer at Oxfam
And I had an interview with the lady and she was like,
"Oh, I had like a Chinese girl before! She was like really good"
And she like took me on...
For that reason...lol...
Because you were Chinese
And I was just like "Erm..."
Thank you Chinese girl for getting me the [job]!
Errrrrrr.... That's such a...
Like for East Asians we tend to have positive stereotypes
It's because you're a model minority, have you ever heard about this?
A model minority? Yeah, I have heard about it
So there are studies about this
In the UK when it comes to model minority - and everywhere else actually
The model minority tends to be Chinese people
And Indians as well, but mostly Chinese people
Yeah, sorry, East Asians as a whole
I also think that's an issue
No, it's massively an issue
Because we don't get taken seriously either, have you noticed?
It's also the fact- it's not just that
It's the fact that...
People who are East Asian, sorry, I keep saying Chinese because there's a higher proportion of you
Yes, no, fix it
But there are a lot of- what's wrong with that is
When it comes to being "intelligent"
They're usually seen as, "OK, yeah, Chinese and East Asian people are seen as obedient", right?
But it's kind of because of their "Tiger Mums"
That's what it said (the study).
So it's seen as inauthentic intelligence - I didn't have a tiger mum lol
No, no, but I'm saying that's how they class it
They kind of go, "Oh, they're smart because they're forced to do it"
You see what I mean?
It isn't because this person is genuinely smart
Like East Asians are stereotypically seen as submissive...
And obedient... - It's like you have no identity!
And they're accepted because it's seen that they assimilate better to Western culture
A.K.A "obey the White rules"
No, but that's basically it!
You follow those rules whereas...
Which kind of annoys me because I feel like you lose that
Asian aspect of culture...
What am I saying? lol - You do, but some people
It's that compromise
They give it up, do you know what I mean?
It just becomes annoying because I end up being a representative
For like...everyone (* for all East Asians)
Because you know I'm into Korean culture and I can speak Korean as well
So when people know that, they're like, "Oh why do people do this?
"And why do certain people do this?" etc.
And it's like...
You know when you have to speak for everyone? And be an advocate
But that's for anyone who's non-White, in certain situations, no?
Sometimes you're representative of BME
Sometimes (for me), I'm a representative for South Asians
Sometimes I'm a representative of all Muslim people in the world
Do you know what I mean?
That's how it is
Yeah...but it's the pressure!
It's so much pressure!
It's like, I don't need this pressure!
I'm just me!
It's an unbelievable amount of pressure
But you end up carrying that
OMG I've got like 11% battery, what am I going to film with?
You know, I can always start a video, but I never know how to end it properly...
Erm...this is just a "brief" chat about our experiences and opinions about racism in the UK as British Asians
It's an issue...for sure...
Don't know how we're going to overcome it...
I think it will...it's just education and exposure
That's how I see it
You can't necessarily eradicate something because it's so engrained in society
Do you see?
So it's historical, it's cultural, it's societal
But it's a case of education really
And people exposing themselves to different situations
But the thing is- And I mean that on both sides!
Like people having a better understanding of each other - But the problem is-
And having a conversation about race!
Like not being scared to-
And everyone be talking about it, like if you don't quite understand something
Don't be afraid to ask
But some people do take offence
Some people do, but that's on an individual level, do you know what I mean?
That's because not everyone is the same
So you're not going to respond the same just because you're Asian!
But my problem is that I don't like it when people find Asian culture exotic
And it's like fascinating to them...
If that makes sense?
Like it becomes...weird...
But that's with any culture that's not...
Not the majority?
Yeah, that's how it is. Even with Black culture for example.
I know it's expected, but I don't like that...
Ah I don't know, you know when they're just fascinated about your culture?
And they're just really interested but I don't want that...I don't need that...?
I don't mind it...in certain ways
Because they start asking [so many questions]-
Sometimes I don't mind it because people will ask me and I'll just tell them
But it's like "Oh, it's so fascinating, it's so interesting" and it's just...
It makes me feel like a... -It'll make you feel like an alien
Yeah! It makes me feel uncomfortable
It makes me think like, "Oh, I'm not one of you."
If that makes sense?
Because I am British at the same time
Like I was born and raised here
But at the same time because of my identity, I'm Asian as well
But I think it's important also then that when people ask you that, just saying that, you know what I mean?
Like "Ah! For me..." and then kind of-
But it's kind of hard to word it as well, because I don't even know how I feel right now
I think the more conversations you have the more you can say it
Sort of define it?
Yeah, do you know what I mean?
That's what I personally think anyway
Because it's a chance to educate!
Like some people say it and they're unaware
So it's a chance to tell them, "Oh, actually etc."
You know what I mean?
In the East I'm seen as White/British
I think anyone with-
And over here I'm seen as Asian, so I don't fit in either
But I think any child of-
But I'm both?!
Anyone who is a child of an immigrant is going to face that
It's hard to put it in words sometimes
And it's such a-
I think the more you talk about it
Because if someone were to say something I'd still educate them, do you know what I mean?
The more comfortable you feel in your identity, the more you feel comfortable to address and educate
So how should we end this, Tamanna?
Please educate yourselves!
Let's not be ignorant
And don't be afraid to ask certain questions
Just don't be rude about it!
Yeah, that's basically it
Well if you can Google it. Google the answer first.
If it sounds stupid, then it's probably stupid
Don't you think?
If you're going to ask like, "Do I have hair under here or ears?"
Then that's just a stupid question
Or "Can I touch your hair?" Or like...
Or can I touch your hair? Then what are you doing with your life? Do you know what I mean?
We're all human beings. We're more similar than people think
Because we're all different ethnicities but I don't see that as an issue at all
Because we talk about it
I'm like, "OK, at home you eat different foods, your parents cook different foods to mine"- I don't care, that doesn't really bother me
It's not a fad for me, I'm like whatever
But I also think that's also why the majority of my friends are non-White
There's that [mutual understanding]- They get it. They just get it.
I don't need to explain myself
It's not that I don't like White people though, it's just turned out that way?
It's just cultural differences sometimes
I just feel like ethnic minorities live in a different world that White people aren't really aware about
Because they have these experiences- -But some people are willing to learn!
But yeah, if they're willing to learn
I know loads of people who identify as White
They address White privilege
They'll discard it as well
Yeah, White privilege, that's something-
I've even asked a friend, "Why don't you use your White privilege to get to a job?"
Like I seriously meant him. I wasn't saying it to be ironic- or see what his answer was
I literally, I just said, "Why don't you use it?"
And he was like "No, because..."
And he had such a strong argument about why he'd never use it. Like literally.
And there are people who are willing to-
Well at least there are people out there who know about it
I have (White) friends who know about it- White privilege and are aware about it
And I've said, "Do you think-"
But I think it's those people who can help us make a change really
It has to be
People have to help make a change otherwise things will stay the same, won't they?
One day we'll change the world
LOL "One day we'll change the world"
Watch this space!
"Watch this space" lol
OMG 3% [battery]!
OK, we're gonna go. Bye~~
Self-Identity & Racism in the UK as British Asians
2017 年 7 月 18 日 に公開