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  • CHRIS: GOOD EVENING FROM THE

  • THOMAS AND MAX CENTER AT THE

  • UNIVERSITY OF NEVADA-LAS VEGAS.

  • I'M CHRIS WALLACE OF FOX NEWS.

  • I WELCOME YOU TO THE THIRD AND

  • FINAL OF THE 2016 PRESIDENTIAL

  • DEBATES BETWEEN SECRETARY OF

  • STATE HILLARY CLINTON AND

  • DONALD J. TRUMP.

  • THIS DEBATE IS SPONSORED BY THE

  • COMMISSION ON PRESIDENTIAL

  • DEBATE.

  • THE COMMISSION HAS DESIGNED THE

  • FORMAT.

  • SIX ROUGHLY 15-MINUTE SEGMENTS

  • WITH TWO-MINUTE ANSWERS TO THE

  • FIRST QUESTION, THEN OPEN

  • DISCUSSION FOR THE REST OF EACH

  • SEGMENT.

  • BOTH CAMPAIGNS HAVE AGREED TO

  • THOSE RULES.

  • FOR THE RECORD, I DECIDED THE

  • TOPICS AND THE QUESTIONS IN

  • EACH TOPIC, NONE OF THOSE

  • QUESTIONS HAS BEEN SHARED WITH

  • THE COMMISSION OR THE TWO

  • CANDIDATES.

  • THE AUDIENCE HERE IN THE HALL

  • IS PROMISED TO -- HAS PROMISED

  • TO REMAIN SILENT.

  • NO CHEER, BOOS OR OTHER

  • INTERRUPTIONS SO WE AND YOU CAN

  • FOCUS ON WHAT THE CANDIDATES

  • HAVE TO SAY.

  • NO NOISE EXCEPT RIGHT NOW AS WE

  • WELCOME THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE

  • FOR PRESIDENT, SECRETARY

  • CLINTON, AND THE REPUBLICAN

  • NOMINEE FOR PRESIDENT, MR.

  • TRUMP.

  • [APPLAUSE]

  • CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

  • SECRETARY CLINTON, MR. TRUMP,

  • WELCOME.

  • LET'S GET RIGHT TO.

  • IT THE FIRST TOPIC IS THE

  • SUPREME COURT.

  • YOU BOTH TALKED BRIEFLY ABOUT

  • THE COURT IN THE LAST DEBATE.

  • BUT I WANT TO DRILL DOWN ON

  • THIS, BECAUSE THE NEXT

  • PRESIDENT WILL ALMOST CERTAINLY

  • HAVE AT LEAST ONE APPOINTMENT

  • AND LIKELY OR POSSIBLY TWO OR

  • REE APPOINTMENTS WHICH MEANS

  • THAT YOU WILL IN EFFECT

  • DETERMINE THE BALANCE A OF THE

  • COURT FOR WHAT COULD BE THE

  • NEXT QUARTER CENTURY.

  • FIRST OF ALL, WHERE DO YOU WANT

  • TO SEE THE COURT TAKE THE

  • COUNTRY AND SECONDLY, WHAT'S

  • YOUR VIEW ON HOW THE

  • CONSTITUTION SHOULD BE

  • INTERPRETED?

  • DO THE FOUNDERS' WORDS MEAN

  • WHAT THEY SAY, OR IS IT A

  • LIVING DOCUMENT TO BE APPLIED

  • FLEXIBLY AYE ACCORDING TO

  • CHANGING CIRCUMSTANCES --

  • FLEXIBLY ACCORDING TO CHANGING

  • CIRCUMSTANCES?

  • SECRETARY CLINTON, YOU GO

  • FIRST.

  • YOU HAVE GOT MINUTES.

  • HILLARY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH,

  • CHRIS, AND THANKS TO UNLV FOR

  • HOSTING US.

  • I THINK WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE

  • SUPREME COURT, IT REALLY RAISES

  • THE CENTRAL ISSUE IN THIS

  • ELECTION.

  • NAMELY, WHAT KIND OF COUNTRY

  • ARE WE GOING TO BE?

  • WHAT KIND OF OPPORTUNITIES WILL

  • WE PROVIDE FOR OUR CITIZENS,

  • WHAT KIND OF RIGHTS WILL

  • AMERICANS HAVE?

  • AND I FEEL STRONGLY THAT THE

  • SUPREME COURT NEEDS TO STAND ON

  • THE SIDE OF THE AMERICAN

  • PEOPLE, NOT ONED SIDE OF THE

  • POWERFUL -- ON THE SIDE OF THE

  • POWERFUL CORPORATIONS AND THE

  • WEALTHY.

  • FOR ME THAT MEANS THAT WE NEED

  • A SUPREME COURT THAT WILL STAND

  • UP ON BEHALF OF WOMEN'S RIGHTS,

  • ON BEHALF OF THE RIGHTS OF THE

  • LGBT COMMUNITY, THAT WILL STAND

  • UP AND SAY NO TO CITIZENS

  • UNITED, A DECISION THAT HAS

  • UNDERMINED THE ELECTION SYSTEM

  • IN OUR COUNTRY BECAUSE OF THE

  • WAY IT PERMITS DARK,

  • UNACCOUNTABLE MONEY TO COME

  • INTO OUR ELECTORAL SYSTEM.

  • I HAVE MAJOR DISAGREEMENTS WITH

  • MY OPPONENT ABOUT THESE ISSUES

  • AND OTHERS THAT WILL BE BEFORE

  • THE SUPREME COURT.

  • BUT I FEEL THAT AT THIS POINT

  • IN OUR COUNTRY'S HISTORY, IT IS

  • IMPORTANT THAT WE NOT REVERSE

  • MARRIAGE EQUALITY, THAT WE NOT

  • REVERSE ROE V. WADE, THAT WE

  • STAND UP AGAINST CITIZENS

  • UNITED, WE STAND UP FOR THE

  • RIGHTS OF PEOPLE IN THE

  • WORKPLACE, THAT WE STAND UP AND

  • BASICALLY SAY, THE SUPREME

  • COURT SHOULD REPRESENT ALL OF

  • US.

  • THAT'S HOW I SEE THE COURT AND

  • THE KIND OF PEOPLE THAT I WOULD

  • BE LOOKING TO NOMINATE TO THE

  • COURT WOULD BE IN THE GREAT

  • TRADITION OF STANDING UP TO THE

  • POWERFUL, STANDING UP ON BEHALF

  • OF OUR RIGHTS AS AMERICANS.

  • AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING

  • THAT OPPORTUNITY.

  • I WOULD HOPE THAT THE SENATE

  • WOULD DO ITS JOB.

  • AND CONFIRM THE NOMINEE THAT

  • PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS SENT TO

  • THEM.

  • THAT'S THE WAY THE CONSTITUTION

  • FUNDAMENTALLY SHOULD OPERATE.

  • THE PRESIDENT NOMINATES AND

  • THEN THE SENATE ADVISES AND

  • CONSENTS OR NOT.

  • BUT THEY GO FORWARD WITH THE

  • PROCESS.

  • CHRIS: SECRETARY CLINTON, THANK

  • YOU.

  • MR. TRUMP, SAME QUESTION.

  • WHERE DO YOU WANT TO SEE THE

  • COURT TAKE THE COUNTRY AND HOW

  • DO YOU BELIEVE THE CONSTITUTION

  • SHOULD BE INTERPRETED?

  • DONALD: WELL, FIRST OF ALL,

  • IT'S GREAT TO BE WITH YOU AND

  • THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.

  • THE SUPREME COURT, IT'S WHAT

  • IT'S ALL ABOUT.

  • OUR COUNTRY IS SO, SO -- JUST

  • SO IMPERATIVE THAT WE HAVE THE

  • RIGHT JUSTICES.

  • SOMETHING HAPPENED RECENTLY

  • WHERE JUSTICE GINSBURG MADE

  • SOME VERY, VERY INAPPROPRIATE

  • STATEMENTS TOWARD ME AND TOWARD

  • A TREMENDOUS NUMBER OF PEOPLE,

  • MANY, MANY MILLIONS OF PEOPLE

  • THAT I REPRESENT.

  • AND SHE WAS FORCED TO

  • APOLOGIZE.

  • AND APOLOGIZE SHE DID.

  • BUT THESE WERE STATEMENTS THAT

  • SHOULD NEVER, EVER HAVE BEEN

  • MADE.

  • WE NEED A SUPREME COURT THAT,

  • IN MY OPINION, IS GOING TO

  • UPHOLD THE SECOND AMENDMENT AND

  • ALL AMENDMENTS, BUT THE SECOND

  • AMENDMENT, WHICH IS UNDER

  • ABSOLUTE SIEGE.

  • I BELIEVE IF MY OPPONENT SHOULD

  • WIN THIS RACE, WHICH I TRULY

  • DON'T THINK WILL HAPPEN, WE

  • WILL HAVE A SECOND AMENDMENT

  • WHICH WILL BE A VERY, VERY

  • SMALL REPLICA OF WHAT IT IS

  • RIGHT NOW.

  • BUT I FEEL THAT IT'S ABSOLUTELY

  • IMPORTANT THAT WE UPHOLD

  • BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT IT IS

  • UNDER SUCH TRAUMA.

  • I FEEL THAT THE JUSTICES THAT I

  • AM GOING TO APPOINT, AND I'VE

  • NAMED 20 OF THEM, THE JUSTICES

  • THAT I'M GOING TO APPOINT WILL

  • BE PRO-LIFE, THEY WILL HAVE A

  • CONSERVATIVE VENT.

  • THEY WILL BE PROTECTING THE

  • SECOND AMENDMENT.

  • THEY ARE GREAT SCHOLARS IN ALL

  • CASES.

  • AND THEY'RE PEOPLE OF

  • TREMENDOUS RESPECT.

  • THEY WILL INTERPRET THE

  • CONSTITUTION THE WAY THE

  • FOUNDERS WANTED IT INTERPRETED.

  • AND I BELIEVE THAT'S VERY, VERY

  • IMPORTANT.

  • I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD HAVE

  • JUSTICES APOINTED THAT DECIDE

  • WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR.

  • THE ALL ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION

  • OF -- AND SO IMPORTANT, THE

  • CONSTITUTION, THE WAY IT WAS

  • MEANT TO BE.

  • AND THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT I

  • WILL APPOINT.

  • CHRIS: MR. TRUMP, THANK YOU.

  • WE NOW HAVE ABOUT 10 MINUTES

  • FOR AN OPEN DISCUSSION.

  • I WANT TO FOCUS ON TWO ISSUES

  • THAT IN FACT, BY THE JUSTICES

  • THAT YOU NAMED, COULD END UP

  • CHANGING THE EXISTING LAW OF

  • THE LAND.

  • FIRST IS ONE THAT YOU

  • MENTIONED, MR. TRUMP, AND THAT

  • IS GUNS.

  • SECRETARY CLINTON, YOU SAID

  • LAST YEAR, LET ME QUOTE, THE

  • SUPREME COURT IS WRONG ON THE

  • SECOND AMENDMENT.

  • IN FACT, IN THE 2008 HELLER

  • CASE, THE COURT RULED THAT

  • THERE IS A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT

  • TO BEAR ARMS, BUT A RIGHT THAT

  • IS REASONABLY LIMITED.

  • THOSE WERE THE WORDS OF THE

  • JUDGE ANTONIN SCALIA WHO WROTE

  • THE DECISION.

  • WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT?

  • HILLARY: WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I

  • SUPPORT THE SECOND AMENDMENT.

  • I LIVED IN ARKANSAS FOR 18

  • WONDERFUL YEARS.

  • I REPRESENTED UPSTATE NEW YORK.

  • I UNDERSTAND AND RESPECT THE

  • TRADITION OF GUN OWNERSHIP.

  • IT GOES BACK TO THE FOUNDING OF

  • OUR COUNTRY.

  • BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THERE

  • CAN BE AND MUST BE REASONABLE

  • REGULATION.

  • BECAUSE I SUPPORT THE SECOND

  • AMENDMENT DOESN'T MEAN THAT I

  • WANT PEOPLE WHO SHOULDN'T HAVE

  • GUNS TO BE ABLE TO THREATEN

  • YOU, KILL YOU OR MEMBERS OF

  • YOUR FAMILY.

  • WHEN I THINK ABOUT WHAT WE NEED

  • TO DO, WE HAVE 33,000 PEOPLE A

  • YEAR WHO DIE FROM GUNS.

  • I THINK WE NEED COMPREHENSIVE

  • BACKGROUND CHECKS, NEED TO

  • CLOSE THE ONLINE LOOPHOLE,

  • CLOSE THE GUN SHOW LOOPHOLE,

  • THERE'S OTHER MATTERS THAT I

  • THINK ARE SENSIBLE, THAT ARE

  • THE KIND OF REFORMS THAT WOULD

  • MAKE A DIFFERENCE, THAT ARE NOT

  • IN ANY WAY CONFLICTING WITH THE

  • SECOND AMENDMENT.

  • YOU MENTIONED THE HELLER

  • DECISION AND WHAT I WAS SAYING,

  • THAT YOU REFERENCED, WAS THAT I

  • DISAGREED WITH THE WAY THE

  • COURT APPLIED THE SECOND

  • AMENDMENT IN THAT CASE.

  • BECAUSE WHAT THE DISTRICT OF

  • COLOMBIA WAS TRYING TO DO WAS

  • PROTECT TODDLERS FROM GUNS.

  • SO THEY WANTED PEOPLE WITH GUNS

  • TO SAFELY STORE THEM.

  • THE COURT DIDN'T ACCEPT THAT

  • REASONABLE REGULATION.

  • BUT THEY'VE ACCEPTED MANY

  • OTHERS.

  • I SEE NO CONFLICT BETWEEN

  • SAVING PEOPLE'S LIVES AND

  • DEFENDING THE SECOND AMENDMENT.

  • CHRIS: LET ME BRING MR. TRUMP

  • IN HERE.

  • THE BIPARTISAN OPEN DEBATE

  • COALITION GOT BILLIONS OF VOTES

  • ON QUESTIONS TO ASK HERE AND

  • THIS WAS IN FACT ONE OF THE TOP

  • QUESTIONS THAT THEY GOT.

  • HOW WILL YOU ENSURE THE SECOND

  • AMENDMENT IS PROTECTED?

  • YOU JUST HEARD SECRETARY

  • CLINTON'S ANSWER.

  • DOES SHE PERSUADE YOU THAT

  • WHILE YOU MAY DISAGREE ON

  • REGULATION, THAT IN FACT SHE

  • SUPPORTS A SECOND AMENDMENT

  • RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS?

  • MR. TRUMP: THE D.C. VS. HELLER

  • DECISION WAS VERY STRONGLY AND

  • SHE WAS EXTREMELY ANGRY ABOUT

  • IT.

  • I WATCHED.

  • SHE WAS VERY, VERY ANGRY.

  • WHEN UPHELD.

  • JUSTICE SCALIA WAS SO INVOLVED

  • AND IT WAS A WELL-CRAFTED

  • DECISION.

  • BUT HILLARY WAS EXTREMELY

  • UPSET.

  • EXTREMELY ANGRY.

  • PEOPLE THAT BELIEVE IN THE

  • SECOND AMENDMENT AND BELIEVE IN

  • IT VERY STRONGLY WERE VERY

  • UPSET WITH WHAT SHE HAD TO SAY.

  • CHRIS: LET ME BRING IN

  • SECRETARY CLINTON.

  • WERE YOU EXTREMELY UPSET?

  • MRS. CLINTON: I WAS UPSET

  • BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY DOZENS

  • OFED TOLERS -- OF TODDLERS

  • INJURE THEMSELVES, EVEN KILL

  • PEOPLE WITH GUNS, BECAUSE

  • UNFORTUNATELY NOT EVERYONE WHO

  • HAS LOADED GUNS IN THEIR HOMES

  • TAKES APPROPRIATE PRECAUTIONS.

  • BUT THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT I

  • RESPECT THE SECOND AMENDMENT,

  • THAT I ALSO BELIEVE THERE'S AN

  • INDIVIDUAL RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS.

  • THAT IS NOT IN CONFLICT WITH

  • SENSIBLE, COMMONSENSE

  • REGULATIONS.

  • LOOK, I UNDERSTAND THAT

  • DONALD'S BEEN STRONGLY

  • SUPPORTED BY THE NR -- N.R.A.,

  • THE GUN LOBBY'S ON HIS SIDE,

  • THEY'RE RUNNING MILLIONS OF

  • DOLLARS OF ADS AGAINST ME.

  • AND I REGRET THAT.

  • BECAUSE WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO

  • SEE IS FOR PEOPLE TO COME

  • TOGETHER AND SAY, OF COURSE

  • WE'RE GOING TO PROTECT AND

  • DEFEND THE SECOND AMENDMENT.

  • BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO IT IN A

  • WAY THAT TRIES TO SAVE SOME OF

  • THESE 33,000 LIVES THAT WE LOSE

  • EVERY YEAR.

  • CHRIS: LET ME BRING MR. TRUMP

  • BACK INTO THAT.

  • IN FACT YOU OPPOSED ANY LIMITS

  • ON ASSAULT WEAPONS, ANY LIMITS

  • ON HIGH-CAPACITY MAGAZINES, YOU

  • SUPPORT A NATIONAL RIGHT TO

  • CARRY LAW.

  • WHY, SIR?

  • MR. TRUMP: LET ME JUST TELL YOU

  • BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER.

  • IN CHICAGO, WHICH HAS THE

  • TOUGHEST GUN LAWS IN THE UNITED

  • STATES, PROBABLY YOU COULD SAY

  • BY FAR THEY HAVE MORE GUN

  • VIOLENCE THAN ANY OTHER CITY.

  • SO WE HAVE THE TOUGHEST LAWS

  • AND YOU HAVE TREMENDOUS GUN

  • VIOLENCE.

  • I AM A VERY STRONG SUPPORTER OF

  • THE SECOND AMENDMENT.

  • AND I AM -- I DON'T KNOW IF

  • IT IN A S SAYING

  • SARCASTIC MANNER, BUT I'M VERY

  • PROUD TO HAVE THE ENDORSEMENT

  • OF THE N.R.A. AND IT WAS THE

  • EARLIEST ENDORSEMENT THEY'VE

  • EVER GIVEN TO ANYBODY WHO RAN

  • FOR PRESIDENT.

  • SO I'M VERY HONORED BY ALL OF

  • THAT.

  • WE ARE GOING TO APPOINT

  • JUSTICES, THIS IS THE BEST WAY

  • TO HELP THE SECOND AMENDMENT,

  • WE ARE GOING TO APPOINT

  • JUSTICES THAT WILL FEEL VERY

  • STRONGLY ABOUT THE SECOND

  • AMENDMENT, THAT WILL NOT DO

  • DAMAGE TO THE SECOND AMENDMENT.

  • CHRIS: LET'S PICK UP ON ANOTHER

  • ISSUE WHICH DIVIDES YOU.

  • AND THE JUSTICES THAT WHOEVER

  • ENDS UP WINNING THIS ELECTION

  • APPOINTS COULD HAVE A DRAMATIC

  • EFFECT THERE, AND THAT'S THE

  • ISSUE OF ABORTION.

  • MR. TRUMP, YOU'RE PRO-LIFE.

  • I WANT TO ASK YOU SPECIFICALLY,

  • DO YOU WANT THE COURT,

  • INCLUDING THE JUSTICES THAT YOU

  • WILL NAME, TO OVERTURN ROE V.

  • WADE, WHICH INCLUDES, IN FACT

  • STATES, A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO

  • ABORTION?

  • MR. TRUMP: IF THAT WOULD

  • HAPPEN, BECAUSE I AM PRO-LIFE,

  • AND I WILL BE APPOINTING

  • PRO-LIFE JUDGES, I WOULD THINK

  • THAT THAT WILL GO BACK TO THE

  • INDIVIDUAL STATES.

  • CHRIS: I'M ASKING YOU

  • SPECIFICALLY, WOULD YOU --

  • MR. TRUMP: IF THEY OVERTURNED

  • IT, IT WILL GO BACK TO THE

  • STATES.

  • CHRIS: DO YOU WANT TO SEE THE

  • COURT OVERTURN -- YOU JUST SAID

  • YOU WANT TO SEE THE COURT

  • PROTECT THE SECOND AMENDMENT.

  • DO YOU WANT TO SEE THE COURT

  • OVERTURN ROE V. WADE?

  • MR. TRUMP: IF WE PUT ANOTHER

  • TWO OR PERHAPS THREE JUSTICES

  • ON, THAT'S WHAT'S -- THAT WILL

  • HAPPEN.

  • THAT WILL HAPPEN AUTOMATICALLY

  • IN MY OPINION.

  • BECAUSE I AM PUTTING PRO-LIFE

  • JUSTICES ON THE COURT.

  • I WILL SAY THIS.

  • IT WILL GO BACK TO THE STATES

  • AND THE STATES WILL THEN MAKE A

  • DETERMINATION.

  • CHRIS: SECRETARY CLINTON?

  • MRS. CLINTON: I STRONGLY

  • SUPPORT ROE V. WADE, WHICH

  • GUARANTEES A CONSTITUTIONAL

  • RIGHT TO A WOMAN TO MAKE THE

  • MOST INTIMATE, MOST DIFFICULT

  • IN MANY CASES DECISIONS ABOUT

  • HER HEALTH CARE THAT ONE CAN

  • IMAGINE.

  • IN THIS CASE, IT'S NOT ONLY

  • ABOUT ROE V. WADE.

  • IT IS ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING

  • RIGHT NOW IN AMERICA.

  • SO MANY STATES ARE PUTTING VERY

  • STRINGENT REGULATIONS ON WOMEN

  • THAT BLOCK THEM FROM EXERCISING

  • THAT CHOICE.

  • TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY ARE

  • DEFUNDING PLANNED PARENTHOOD,

  • WHICH OF COURSE PROVIDES ALL

  • KINDS OF CANCER SCREENINGS AND

  • OTHER BENEFITS FOR WOMEN IN OUR

  • COUNTRY.

  • DONALD HAS SAID HE'S IN FAVOR

  • OF DEFUNDING PLANNED

  • PARENTHOOD.

  • HE EVEN SUPPORTED SHUTTING THE

  • GOVERNMENT DOWN TO DEFUND

  • PLANNED PARENTHOOD.

  • I WILL DEFEND PLANNED

  • PARENTHOOD.

  • I WILL DEFEND ROE V. WADE AND I

  • WILL DEFEND WOMEN'S RIGHTS TO

  • MAKE THEIR OWN HEALTH CARE

  • DECISIONS.

  • WE HAVE COME TOO FAR TO HAVE

  • THAT TURNED BACK NOW AND INDEED

  • HE SAID WOMEN SHOULD BE

  • PUNISHED, THAT THERE SHOULD BE

  • SOME FORM OF PUNISHMENT FOR

  • WOMEN WHO OBTAIN ABORTIONS.

  • AND I COULD JUST NOT BE MORE

  • OPPOSED TO THAT KIND OF

  • THINKING.

  • CHRIS: I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A

  • CHANCE TO RESPONDS, BUT I WANT

  • TO ASK YOU SECRETARY CLINTON, I

  • WANT TO EXPLORE HOW FAR YOU

  • BELIEVE THE RIGHT TO ABORTION

  • GOES.

  • YOU HAVE BEEN QUOTED AS SAYING

  • THAT THE FETUS HAS NO

  • CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, YOU ALSO

  • VOTED AGAINST A BAN ON

  • LATE-TERM PARTIAL BIRTH

  • ABORTIONS.

  • WHY?

  • MRS. CLINTON: BECAUSE ROE V.

  • WADE VERY CLEARLY SETS OUT THAT

  • THERE CAN BE REGULATIONS ON

  • ABORTIONS SO LONG AS THE LIFE

  • AND THE HEALTH OF THE MOTHER

  • ARE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT.

  • WHEN I VOTED AS A SENATOR, I

  • DID NOT THINK THAT THAT WAS THE

  • CASE.

  • THE KINDS OF CASES THAT STALL

  • AT THE END OF PREGNANCY ARE

  • OFTEN THE MOST HEARTBREAKING,

  • PAINFUL DECISIONS FOR FAMILIES

  • TO MAKE.

  • I HAVE MET WITH WOMEN WHO HAVE,

  • TOWARD THE END OF THEIR

  • PREGNANCY, GET THE WORST NEWS

  • ONE COULD GET.

  • THAT THEIR HEALTH IS IN

  • JEOPARDY IF THEY CONTINUE TO

  • CARRY TO TERM.

  • OR THAT SOMETHING TERRIBLE HAS

  • HAPPENED OR JUST BEEN

  • DISCOVERED ABOUT THE PREGNANCY.

  • I DO NOT THINK THE UNITED

  • STATES GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE

  • STEPPING IN AND MAKING THOSE

  • MOST PERSONAL OF DECISIONS.

  • YOU CAN REGULATE IF YOU ARE

  • DOING SO WITH THE LIFE AND THE

  • HEALTH OF THE MOTHER TAKEN INTO

  • ACCOUNT.

  • CHRIS: MR. TRUMP, YOUR

  • REACTION, PARTICULARLY ON THIS

  • ISSUE OF LATE-TERM PARTIAL

  • BIRTH ABORTION.

  • MR. TRUMP: I THINK THE

  • TERRIBLE.

  • IF YOU GO WITH WHAT HILLARY IS

  • SAYING, IN THE NINTH MONTH, YOU

  • CAN TAKE THE BABY AND RIP THE

  • BABY OUT OF THE WOMB OF THE

  • MOTHER.

  • JUST PRIOR TO THE BIRTH OF THE

  • BABY.

  • YOU CAN SAY THAT THAT'S OK AND

  • HILLARY CAN SAY THAT THAT'S OK,

  • BUT IT'S NOT OK WITH ME.

  • BECAUSE BASED ON WHAT SHE'S

  • SAYING AND BASED ON WHERE SHE'S

  • GOING AND WHERE SHE'S BEEN, YOU

  • CAN TAKE THE BABY AND RIP THE

  • BABY OUT OF THE WOMB.

  • IN THE NINTH MONTH.

  • ON THE FINAL DAY.

  • AND THAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE.

  • MRS. CLINTON: THAT IS NOT WHAT

  • HAPPENS IN THESE CASES.

  • USING THAT KIND OF SCARE

  • RHETORIC IS JUST TERRIBLY

  • UNFORTUNATE.

  • YOU SHOULD MEET WITH SOME OF

  • THE WOMEN THAT I'VE MET WITH,

  • WOMEN I'VE KNOWN OVER THE

  • COURSE OF MY LIFE.

  • THIS IS ONE OF THE WORST

  • POSSIBLE CHOICES THAT ANY WOMAN

  • IN HER -- AND HER FAMILY HAS TO

  • MAKE.

  • AND I DO NOT BELIEVE THE

  • GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE MAKING IT.

  • I'VE HAD THE GREAT HONOR OF

  • TRAVELING ACROSS THE WORLD ON

  • BEHALF OF OUR COUNTRY.

  • I'VE BEEN TO COUNTRIES WHERE

  • GOVERNMENTS EITHER FORCE WOMEN

  • TO HAVE ABORTIONS LIKE THEY

  • USED TO DO IN CHINA.

  • OR FORCED WOMEN TO BEAR

  • CHILDREN LIKE THEY USED TO DO

  • IN ROMANIA.

  • AND I CAN TELL YOU, THE

  • GOVERNMENT HAS NO BUSINESS IN

  • THE DECISIONS THAT WOMEN MAKE

  • WITH THEIR FAMILIES IN

  • ACCORDANCE WITH THEIR FAITH,

  • WITH MEDICAL ADVICE, AND I WILL

  • STAND UP FOR THAT RIGHT.

  • CHRIS: ALL RIGHT.

  • JUST BRIEFLY, I WANT TO MOVE ON

  • --

  • MR. TRUMP: HONESTLY, NOBODY HAS

  • BUSINESS DOING WHAT I JUST

  • SAID.

  • DOING THAT.

  • AS LATE AS ONE OR TWO OR THREE

  • OR FOUR DAYS PRIOR TO BIRTH.

  • NOBODY HAS THAT.

  • CHRIS: LET'S MOVE ON TO THE

  • SUBJECT OF IMMIGRATION.

  • THERE IS ALMOST NO ISSUE THAT

  • SEPARATES THE TWO OF YOU MORE

  • THAN THE ISSUE OF IMMIGRATION.

  • ACTUALLY, THERE ARE A LOT OF

  • ISSUES THAT SEPARATE THE TWO OF

  • YOU.

  • [LAUGHTER]

  • MR. TRUMP, YOU WANT TO BUILD A

  • WALL, SECRETARY CLINTON, YOU

  • HAVE OFFERED NO SPECIFIC PLAN

  • FOR HOW YOU WANT TO SECURE OUR

  • SOUTHERN BORDER.

  • MR. TRUMP, YOU ARE CALLING FOR

  • MAJOR DEPORTATIONS.

  • SECRETARY CLINTON, YOU SAY THAT

  • WITHIN YOUR FIRST 100 DAYS AS

  • PRESIDENT YOU'RE GOING TO OFFER

  • A PACKAGE THAT INCLUDES A

  • PATHWAY TO CITIZENSHIP.

  • THE QUESTION REALLY IS, WHY ARE

  • YOU RIGHT AND YOUR OPPONENT

  • WRONG.

  • MR. TRUMP, YOU GO FIRST IN THIS

  • SEGMENT.

  • YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES.

  • MR. TRUMP: FIRST OF ALL, SHE

  • WANTS TO GIVE AMNESTY WHICH IS

  • A DISASTER AND VERY UNFAIR TO

  • ALL OF THE PEOPLE WAITING IN

  • LINE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.

  • WE NEED STRONG BORDERS.

  • IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT WE HAVE

  • FOUR MOTHERS OF -- I MEAN,

  • THESE ARE UNBELIEVABLE PEOPLE

  • THAT I'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW OVER A

  • PERIOD OF YEARS, WHOSE CHILDREN

  • HAVE BEEN KILLED, BRUTALLY

  • KILLED, BY PEOPLE THAT CAME

  • INTO THE COUNTRY ILLEGALLY.

  • YOU HAVE THOUSANDS OF MOTHERS

  • AND FATHERS AND RELATIVES ALL

  • OVER THE COUNTRY, THEY'RE

  • COMING IN ILLEGALLY, DRUGS ARE

  • POURING IN THROUGH THE BORDER.

  • WE HAVE NO COUNTRY IF WE HAVE

  • NO BORDER.

  • HILLARY WANTS TO GIVE AMNESTY.

  • SHE WANTS TO HAVE OPEN BORDERS.

  • THE BORDER -- AS YOU KNOW, THE

  • BORDER PATROL AGENT, 16,500

  • PLUS I.C.E. LAST WEEK ENDORSED

  • ME.

  • FIRST TIME THEY'VE EVER

  • ENDORSED A CANDIDATE.

  • IT MEANS THEIR JOB IS TOUGHER.

  • BUT THEY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

  • THEY KNOW IT BETTER THAN

  • ANYBODY.

  • THEY WANT STRONG BORDERS.

  • THEY FEEL WE HAVE TO HAVE

  • STRONG BORDERS.

  • I WAS UP IN NEW HAMPSHIRE THE

  • OTHER DAY, THE BIGGEST

  • COMPLAINT THEY HAVE WITH ALL OF

  • THE PROBLEMS GOING ON IN THE

  • WORLD, MANY OF THE PROBLEMS

  • CAUSED BY HILLARY CLINTON AND

  • BY BARACK OBAMA, ALL OF THE

  • PROBLEMS, THEIR SINGLE BIGGEST

  • PROBLEM IS HEROIN THAT POURS

  • ACROSS OUR SOUTHERN BORDERS.

  • JUST POURING IN AND DESTROYING

  • THEIR YOUTH.

  • THE POISONING BLOOD OF THEIR

  • YOUTH AND PLENTY OF OTHER

  • PEOPLE.

  • WE HAVE TO HAVE STRONG BORDERS.

  • WE HAVE TO KEEP THE DRUGS OUT

  • OF OUR COUNTRY.

  • RIGHT NOW WE'RE GETTING THE

  • DRUGS, THEY'RE GETTING THE

  • CASH.

  • WE NEED STRONG BORDERS, WE NEED

  • ABSOLUTE -- WE CANNOT GIVE

  • AMNESTY.

  • I WANT TO BUILD A WALL.

  • WE NEED THE WALL.

  • THE BORDER PATROL, I.C.E., THEY

  • ALL WANT THE WALL.

  • WE STOP THE DRUGS, WE SHORE UP

  • THE BORDER.

  • ONE OF MY FIRST ACTS WILL BE TO

  • GET ALL OF THE DRUG LORDS, ALL

  • OF THE BAD ONE, WE HAVE SOME

  • BAD, BAD PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY

  • THAT HAVE TO GO OUT.

  • WE'RE GOING TO GET THEM OUT,

  • WE'RE GOING TO SECURE THE

  • BORDER, AND ONCE THE BORDER IS

  • SECURED AT A LATER DATE, WE'LL

  • MAKE A DETERMINATION AS TO THE

  • REST.

  • WE HAVE SOME BAD HOMBRES HERE

  • AND WE'RE GOING TO GET THEM

  • OUT.

  • CHRIS: MR. TRUMP, THANK YOU.

  • SAME QUESTION TO YOU, SECRETARY

  • CLINTON.

  • BASICALLY, WHY ARE YOU RIGHT

  • AND MR. TRUMP IS WRONG?

  • MRS. CLINTON: AS HE WAS TALKING

  • ABOUT I WAS -- TALKING, I WAS

  • THINKING ABOUT A YOUNG GIRL I

  • MET HERE IN LAS VEGAS, CARLA,

  • WHO WAS VERY WORRIED THAT HER

  • PARENTS MIGHT BE DEPORTED

  • BECAUSE SHE WAS BORN IN THIS

  • COUNTRY, BUT THEY WERE NOT.

  • THEY WORK HARD, THEY DO

  • EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO GIVE HER

  • A GOOD LIFE.

  • AND YOU'RE RIGHT.

  • I DON'T WANT TO RIP FAMILIES

  • APART.

  • I DON'T WANT TO BE SENDING

  • PARENTS AWAY FROM CHILDREN, I

  • DON'T WANT TO SEE THE

  • DEPORTATION FORCE THAT DONALD

  • HAS TALKED ABOUT IN ACTION IN

  • OUR COUNTRY.

  • WE HAVE 11 MILLION UNDOCUMENTED

  • PEOPLE.

  • THEY HAVE FOUR MILLION AMERICAN

  • CITIZEN CHILDREN.

  • 15 MILLION PEOPLE.

  • HE SAID AS RECENTLY AS A FEW

  • WEEK AGO IN FEE KNICK, THAT

  • EVERY UNDOCUMENTED -- PHOENIX,

  • THAT EVERY UNDOCUMENTED PERSON

  • WOULD BE SUBJECT TO

  • DEPORTATION.

  • HERE'S WHAT THAT MEANS.

  • IT MEANS YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE

  • A MASSIVE LAW ENFORCEMENT

  • PRESENCE.

  • WHERE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS

  • WOULD BE GOING SCHOOL TO

  • SCHOOL, HOME TO HOME, BUSINESS

  • TO BUSINESS, ROUNDING UP PEOPLE

  • WHO ARE UNDOCUMENTED.

  • AND WE WOULD THEN HAVE TO PUT

  • THEM ON TRAINS, ON BUSES, TO

  • GET THEM OUT OF OUR COUNTRY.

  • I THINK THAT IS AN IDEA THAT IS

  • NOT IN KEEPING WITH WHO WE ARE

  • AS A NATION.

  • I THINK IT'S AN IDEA THAT WOULD

  • RIP OUR COUNTRY APART.

  • I HAVE BEEN FOR BORDER SECURITY

  • FOR YEARS.

  • I VOTED FOR BORDER SECURITY IN

  • THE UNITED STATES SENATE.

  • AND MY COMPREHENSIVE

  • IMMIGRATION REFORM PLAN, OF

  • COURSE, INCLUDES BORDER

  • SECURITY.

  • BUT I WANT TO PUT OUR RESOURCES

  • WHERE I THINK THEY'RE MOST

  • NEEDED.

  • GETTING RID OF ANY VIOLENT

  • PERSON, ANYBODY WHO SHOULD BE

  • DEPORTED, WE SHOULD DEPORT

  • THEM.

  • WHEN IT COMES TO THE WALL THAT

  • DONALD TALKED ABOUT BUILDING,

  • HE WENT TO MEXICO, WE HAD A

  • MEETING WITH THE MEXICAN

  • PRESIDENT.

  • DIDN'T EVEN RAISE IT.

  • HE CHOKED.

  • AND THEN GOT INTO A TWITTER WAR

  • BECAUSE THE MEXICAN PRESIDENT

  • SAID, WE'RE NOT PAYING FOR THAT

  • WALL.

  • SO I THINK WE ARE BOTH A NATION

  • OF IMMIGRANTS AND WE ARE A

  • NATION OF LAWS.

  • AND THAT WE CAN ACT ACCORDINGLY

  • AND THAT'S WHY I'M INTRODUCING

  • COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION

  • REFORM WITHIN THE FIRST 100

  • DAYS, WITH A PATH TO

  • CITIZENSHIP.

  • CHRIS: THANK YOU, SECRETARY

  • CLINTON.

  • I WANT TO FOLLOW UP --

  • MR. TRUMP: I THINK I SHOULD

  • RESPOND TO THAT.

  • FIRST OF ALL, I HAD A VERY GOOD

  • MEETING WITH THE PRESIDENT OF

  • MEXICO.

  • VERY NICE MAN.

  • WE WILL BE DOING VERY MUCH

  • BETTER WITH MEXICO ON TRADE

  • DEALS, BELIEVE ME.

  • THE NAFTA DEAL SIGNED BY HER

  • HUSBAND'S ONE OF THE WORST

  • DEALS EVER MADE OF ANY KIND,

  • SIGNED BY ANYBODY.

  • IT'S A DISASTER.

  • HILLARY CLINTON WANTED THE

  • WALL.

  • HILLARY CLINTON FOUGHT FOR THE

  • WALL.

  • IN 2006.

  • OR THEREBIES.

  • SHE -- THEREABOUTS.

  • SHE NEVER GETS ANYTHING DONE,

  • SO NATURALY THE WALL WASN'T

  • BUILT.

  • BUT HILLARY CLINTON WANTED THE

  • WALL.

  • CHRIS: SIR --

  • MR. TRUMP: WE ARE A COUNTRY OF

  • LAWS.

  • CHRIS: I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM

  • SECRETARY CLINTON.

  • MRS. CLINTON: I VOTED FOR

  • BORDER SECURITY.

  • AND THERE ARE --

  • MR. TRUMP: AND THE WALL.

  • MRS. CLINTON: THERE ARE SOME

  • LIMITED PLACES WHERE THAT WAS

  • APPROPRIATE.

  • THERE ALSO IS NECESSARILY GOING

  • TO BE NEW TECHNOLOGY AND HOW

  • BEST TO DEPLOY THAT.

  • BUT IT IS CLEAR WHEN YOU LOOK

  • AT WHAT DONALD HAS BEEN

  • PROPOSING, HE STARTED HIS

  • CAMPAIGN BASHING IMMIGRANTS,

  • CALLING MEXICAN IMMIGRANTS

  • RAPISTS AND CRIMINALS AND DRUG

  • DEALERS.

  • HE HAS A VERY DIFFERENT VIEW

  • ABOUT WHAT WE SHOULD DO TO DEAL

  • WITH IMMIGRANTS.

  • WHAT I AM ALSO ARGUING IS THAT

  • BRINGING UNDOCUMENTED

  • IMMIGRANTS OUT FROM THE

  • SHADOWS, PUTTING THEM INTO THE

  • FORMAL ECONOMY, WILL BE GOOD.

  • BECAUSE THEN EMPLOYERS CAN'T

  • EXPLOIT THEM AND UNDERCUT

  • AMERICANS' WAGES.

  • DONALD KNOWS A LOT ABOUT THIS.

  • HE USED UNDOCUMENTED LABOR TO

  • BUILD THE TRUMP TOWER.

  • HE UNDERPAID UNDOCUMENTED

  • WORKERS AND WHEN THEY

  • COMPLAINED HE BASICALLY SAID

  • WHAT A LOT OF EMPLOYERS DO.

  • YOU COMPLAIN, I'LL GET YOU

  • DEPORTED.

  • I WANT TO GET EVERYBODY OUT OF

  • THE SHADOWS, GET THE ECONOMY

  • WORKING, AND NOT LET EMPLOYERS

  • LIKE DONALD EXPLOIT

  • UNDOCUMENTED WORKERS, WHICH

  • HURTS THEM, BUT ALSO HURTS

  • AMERICAN WORKERS.

  • CHRIS: MR. TRUMP.

  • MR. TRUMP: PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS

  • MOVED MILLIONS OF PEOPLE OUT.

  • NOBODY KNOWS ABOUT IT, NOBODY

  • TALKS ABOUT IT.

  • BUT UNDER OBAMA, MILLIONS OF

  • PEOPLE HAVE BEEN MOVED OUT OF

  • THIS COUNTRY.

  • THEY'VE BEEN DEPORTED.

  • SHE DOESN'T WANT TO SAY THAT.

  • BUT THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENED.

  • AND THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENED BIG

  • LEAGUE.

  • AS FAR AS MOVING THESE PEOPLE

  • -- WE EITHER WE,

  • HAVE A COUNTRY OR WE DON'T,

  • WE'RE A COUNTRY OF LAWS.

  • WE EITHER HAVE A BORDER OR WE

  • DON'T.

  • YOU CAN COME BACK IN AND BECOME

  • A CITIZEN, BUT IT'S VERY

  • UNFAIR.

  • WE HAVE MILLIONS PEOPLE THAT

  • DID IT THE RIGHT WAY.

  • THEY'RE IN LINE, THEY'RE

  • WAITING.

  • WE'RE GOING TO SPEED UP THE

  • PROCESS BIG LEAGUE BECAUSE IT'S

  • VERY INEFFICIENT.

  • BUT THEY'RE IN LINE AND THEY'RE

  • WAITING TO BECOME CITIZENS.

  • VERY UNFAIR THAT SOMEBODY RUNS

  • ACROSS THE BORDER, BECOMES A

  • CITIZEN, UNDER HER PLAN YOU

  • HAVE OPEN BORDERS, YOU WOULD

  • HAVE A DISASTER ON TRADE AND

  • YOU WILL HAVE A DISASTER WITH

  • YOUR OPEN BORDERS.

  • WHAT SHE DOESN'T SAY IS THAT

  • PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS DEPORTED

  • MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF PEOPLE

  • JUST THE WAY IT IS.

  • CHRIS: SECRETARY CLINTON --

  • MRS. CLINTON: WE WILL NOT HAVE

  • OPEN BORDERS.

  • THAT IS A RANK

  • MISCHARACTERIZATION.

  • WE WILL HAVE SECURE BORDERS,

  • BUT WE WILL ALSO HAVE REFORM.

  • THIS USED TO BE A BIPARTISAN

  • ISSUE.

  • RONALD REAGAN WAS THE LAST

  • PRESIDENT TO SIGN --

  • CHRIS: SECRETARY CLINTON --

  • MRS. CLINTON: AND GEORGE W.

  • BUSH SUPPORTED IT AS WELL.

  • CHRIS: I WANT TO CLEAR UP YOUR

  • POSITION ON THIS ISSUE.

  • BECAUSE IN A SPEECH YOU GAVE TO

  • A BRAZILIAN BANK FOR WHICH YOU

  • WERE PAID $225,000, WE'VE

  • LEARNED FROM THE WICKY LEAKS,

  • THAT YOU SAID -- WIKILEAKS,

  • THAT YOU SAID THIS, AND I WANT

  • TO QUOTE.

  • MY DREAM IS A HEMISPHERIC

  • COMMON MARKET WITH OPEN TRADE

  • AND OPEN BORDERS.

  • SO --

  • MR. TRUMP: THANK YOU.

  • CHRIS: THAT'S THE QUESTION.

  • [LAUGHTER]

  • THAT'S THE QUESTION.

  • PLEASE QUIET, EVERYBODY.

  • IS THAT YOUR DREAM?

  • OPEN BORDERS?

  • MRS. CLINTON: IF YOU WENT ON TO

  • READ THE REST OF THE CITIZENS,

  • -- SENTENCE, I WAS TALKING

  • ABOUT ENERGY.

  • WE TRADE MORE ENERGY WITH OUR

  • NEIGHBORS THAN WE TRADE WITH

  • THE REST OF THE WORLD COMBINED.

  • I DO WANT US TO HAVE AN

  • ELECTRIC GRID, AN ENERGY SYSTEM

  • THAT CROSSES BORDERS.

  • I THINK THAT WILL BE A GREAT

  • BENEFIT TO US.

  • YOU ARE VERY CLEARLY QUOTING

  • FROM WIKILEAKS AND WHAT'S

  • REALLY IMPORTANT ABOUT

  • WIKILEAKS IS THAT THE RUSSIAN

  • GOVERNMENT HAS ENGAGED IN

  • ESPIONAGE AGAINST AMERICANS.

  • THEY HAVE HACKED AMERICAN

  • WEBSITES, AMERICAN ACCOUNTS OF

  • PRIVATE PEOPLE, OF

  • INSTITUTIONS, THEN THEY HAVE

  • GIVEN THAT INFORMATION TO

  • WIKILEAKS FOR THE PURPOSE OF

  • PUTTING IT ON THE INTERNET.

  • THIS HAS COME FROM THE HIGHEST

  • LEVELS OF THE RUSSIAN

  • GOVERNMENT.

  • CLEARLY FROM PUTIN HIMSELF, IN

  • AN EFFORT, AS 17 OF OUR

  • INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES HAVE

  • CONFIRMED, TO INFLUENCE OUR

  • ELECTION.

  • SO I ACTUALLY THINK THE MOST

  • IMPORTANT QUESTION OF THIS

  • EVENING, CHRIS, IS, FINALLY,

  • ADMIT AND TRUMP

  • CONDEMN THAT THE RUSSIANS ARE

  • DOING THIS AND MAKE IT CLEAR

  • THAT HE WILL NOT HAVE THE HELP

  • OF PUTIN IN THIS ELECTION, THAT

  • HE REJECTS RUSSIAN ESPIONAGE

  • AGAINST AMERICANS, WHICH HE

  • ACTUALLY ENCOURAGED IN THE

  • PAST?

  • THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS WE NEED

  • ANSWERED.

  • WE'VE NEVER HAD ANYTHING LIKE

  • THIS HAPPEN IN ANY OF OUR

  • ELECTIONS BEFORE.

  • MR. TRUMP: THAT WAS A GREAT

  • PIVOT OFF THE FACT THAT SHE

  • WANTS OPEN BORDERS.

  • OK?

  • [LAUGHTER]

  • HOW DID WE GET ONTO PUTEN?

  • CHRIS: HOLD ON --

  • MR. TRUMP: NO.

  • CHRIS: HOLD ON, FOLKS.

  • THIS IS GOING END TO UP GETTING

  • OUT OF CONTROL.

  • LET'S KEEP IT QUIET FOR THE

  • CANDIDATES AND THE AMERICAN

  • PEOPLE.

  • MR. TRUMP: TO FINISH ON THE

  • BORDERS.

  • SHE WANTS OPEN BORDERS.

  • PEOPLE ARE GOING TO POUR INTO

  • OUR COUNTRY.

  • PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME IN

  • FROM SYRIA, SHE WANTS 550% MORE

  • PEOPLE THAN BARACK OBAMA.

  • HE HAS THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS

  • OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE NO IDEA

  • WHERE THEY COME FROM AND YOU

  • SEE, WE ARE GOING TO STOP

  • RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORISM IN

  • THIS COUNTRY.

  • SHE WON'T EVEN MENTION THE

  • WORDS AND NEITHER WILL

  • PRESIDENT OBAMA.

  • I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU, SHE

  • WANTS OPEN BORDERS, NOW WE CAN

  • TALK ABOUT PUTIN.

  • I DON'T KNOW PUTIN.

  • HE SAID NICE THINGS ABOUT ME.

  • IF WE GOT ALONG WELL, THAT

  • WOULD BE GOOD.

  • IF RUSSIA AND THE UNITED STATES

  • GOT ALONG WELL AND WENT AFTER

  • ISIS, THAT WOULD BE GOOD.

  • HE HAS NO RESPECT FOR HER, HE

  • HAS NO RESPECT FOR OUR

  • PRESIDENT, AND I'LL YOU WHAT,

  • WE'RE IN -- I'LL TELL YOU WHAT,

  • WE'RE IN VERY SERIOUS TROUBLE.

  • BECAUSE WE HAVE A COUNTRY WITH

  • TREMENDOUS NUMBERS OF NUCLEAR

  • WARHEADS, 1,800 BY THE WAY,

  • WHERE THEY EXPANDED AND WE

  • DIDN'T, 1,800 NUCLEAR WARHEADS

  • AND SHE'S PLAYING CHICKEN.

  • LOOK, PUTIN -- FROM EVERYTHING

  • I SEE HAS NO RESPECT FOR THIS

  • PERSON.

  • MRS. CLINTON: THAT'S BECAUSE

  • HE'D RATHER HAVE A PUPPET AS

  • PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

  • MR. TRUMP: NO PUPPET.

  • MRS. CLINTON: THE PRETTY CLEAR

  • --

  • MR. TRUMP: YOU'RE THE PUPPET.

  • MRS. CLINTON: THE PRETTY CLEAR

  • YOU WON'T ADMIT THAT THE

  • RUSSIANS HAVE ENGAGED IN

  • CYBERATTACKS AGAINST THE UNITED

  • STATES OF AMERICA, THAT YOU

  • ENCOURAGED ESPIONAGE AGAINST

  • OUR PEOPLE, THAT YOU ARE

  • WILLING TO SPOUT THE PUTIN

  • LINE, SIGN UP FOR HIS WISH

  • LIST, RAKE UP NATO, DO WHATEVER

  • HE WANTS TO DO -- BREAK UP

  • NATO, DO WHATEVER HE WANT TO

  • DO, AND THAT YOU CONTINUE TO

  • GET HELP FROM HIM BECAUSE HE

  • HAS A VERY CLEAR FAVORITE IN

  • THIS RACE.

  • I THINK THAT THIS IS SUCH AN

  • UNPRECEDENTED SITUATION.

  • WE'VE NEVER HAD A FOREIGN

  • GOVERNMENT TRYING TO INTERFERE

  • IN OUR ELECTION.

  • WE HAVE 17, 17 INTELLIGENCE

  • AGENCIES, CIVILIAN AND

  • MILITARY, WHO HAVE ALL

  • CONCLUDED THAT THESE ESPIONAGE

  • ATTACKS, THESE CYBERATTACK,

  • COME FROM THE HIGHEST LEVELS OF

  • THE KREMLIN, AND THEY ARE

  • DESIGNED TO INFLUENCE OUR

  • ELECTIONS.

  • I FIND THAT DEEPLY DISTURBING.

  • I THINK --

  • MR. TRUMP: SHE HAS NO IDEA

  • WHETHER IT'S RUSSIA OR CHINA OR

  • ANYBODY ELSE.

  • MRS. CLINTON: I'M NOT QUOTING

  • MYSELF.

  • I'M QUOTING 17 -- DO YOU DOUBT

  • 17 -- MILITARY AND CIVILIAN

  • AGENCIES?

  • MR. TRUMP: YEAH, I DOUBT IT.

  • MRS. CLINTON: HE'D RATHER

  • BELIEVE VLADIMIR PUTIN THAN THE

  • MILITARY AND CIVILIAN

  • INTELLIGENCE PROFESSIONALS WHO

  • ARE SWORN TO PROTECT US.

  • I FIND THAT JUST ABSOLUTELY --

  • MR. TRUMP: SHE DOESN'T LIKE

  • PUTIN BECAUSE PUTIN HAS

  • OUTSMARTED HER AT EVERY STEP OF

  • THE WAY.

  • EXCUSE ME.

  • PUTIN HAS OUTSMARTED HER IN

  • SYRIA, HE'S OUTSMARTED HER

  • EVERY STEP OF THE WAY.

  • CHRIS: I DO GET TO ASK SOME

  • QUESTIONS.

  • I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU THIS

  • DIRECT QUESTION.

  • THE TOP NATIONAL SECURITY

  • OFFICIALS OF THIS COUNTRY DO

  • BELIEVE THAT RUSSIA HAS BEEN

  • BEHIND THESE HACKS.

  • EVEN IF YOU DON'T KNOW FOR SURE

  • WHETHER THEY ARE, DO YOU

  • CONDEMN ANY INTERFERENCE BY

  • RUSSIA IN THE AMERICAN

  • ELECTION?

  • MR. TRUMP: BY RUSSIA OR ANYBODY

  • ELSE.

  • CHRIS: UCONN DEMOCRAT THEIR

  • INTERFERENCE?

  • MR. TRUMP: OF COURSE I CONDEMN.

  • I DON'T KNOW PUTIN.

  • I NEVER MET PUTIN.

  • THIS IS NOT MY BEST FRIEND.

  • BUT IF THE UNITED STATES GOT

  • ALONG WITH RUSSIA, WOULDN'T BE

  • SO BAD.

  • PUTIN HAS OUTSMARTED HER AND

  • OBAMA AT EVERY SINGLE STEP OF

  • THE WAY.

  • WHETHER IT'S SYRIA, YOU NAME.

  • IT MISSILES.

  • TAKE A LOOK AT THE START UPTHAT

  • THEY SIGNED.

  • THE RUSSIANS HAVE SAID,

  • ACCORDING TO MANY, MANY

  • REPORTS, I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY

  • ALLOWED US TO DO THIS.

  • THEY CREATE WARHEADS AND WE

  • CAN'T.

  • THE RUSSIANS CAN'T BELIEVE IT.

  • SHE HAS BEEN OUTSMARTED BY

  • PUTIN AND ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS

  • LOOK AT THE MIDDLE EAST.

  • THEY'VE TAKEN OVER.

  • WE'VE SPENT $6 TRILLION,

  • THEY'VE TAKEN OVER THE MIDDLE

  • EAST.

  • SHE HAS BEEN OUTSMARTED AND

  • OUTPLAYED WORSE THAN ANYBODY

  • I'VE EVER SEEN IN ANY

  • GOVERNMENT WHATSOEVER.

  • CHRIS: WE'RE A LONG WAY AWAY

  • FROM IMMIGRATION BUT I'M GOING

  • TO LET YOU FINISH THIS TOPIC.

  • YOU GOT ABOUT 45 SECONDS.

  • MR. TRUMP: SHE ALWAYS WILL BE.

  • MRS. CLINTON: I FIND IT IRONIC

  • THAT HE'S RAISING NUCLEAR

  • WEAPONS.

  • THIS IS A PERSON WHO HAS BEEN

  • VERY CAVALIER, EVEN CASUAL,

  • ABOUT THE USE OF NUCLEAR

  • WEAPONS.

  • MR. TRUMP: WRONG.

  • MRS. CLINTON: HE'S ADVOCATED

  • MORE COUNTRIES, JAPAN, KOREA,

  • EVEN SAUDI ARABIA, HE'S SAID,

  • WELL, IF WE HAVE THEM, WHY

  • DON'T WE USE THEM, WHICH I

  • THINK IS TERRIFYING.

  • BUT HERE'S THE DEAL.

  • THE BOTTOM LINE ON NUCLEAR

  • WEAPONS IS, WHEN THE PRESIDENT

  • GIVES THE ORDER, IT MUST BE

  • FOLLOWED.

  • THERE'S ABOUT FOUR MINUTES

  • BETWEEN THE ORDER BEING GIVEN

  • AND THE PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE FOR

  • LAUNCHING NUCLEAR WEAPONS TO DO

  • SO.

  • THAT'S WHY 10 PEOPLE WHO HAVE

  • HAD THAT AWESOME RESPONSIBILITY

  • HAVE COME OUT AND IN AN

  • UNPRECEDENTED WAY SAY THEY

  • WOULD NOT TRUST DONALD TRUMP

  • WITH THE NUCLEAR CODES OR TO

  • HAVE HIS FINGER ON THE NUCLEAR

  • BUTTON.

  • MR. TRUMP: I HAVE 200 GENERALS

  • AND ADMIRALS, 21 ENDORSING ME,

  • 21 CONGRESSIONAL MEDAL OF HONOR

  • RECIPIENTS, AS FAR AS JAPAN AND

  • OTHER COUNTRIES, WE ARE BEING

  • RIPPED OFF BY EVERYBODY --

  • WE'RE DEFENDING OTHER

  • COUNTRIES.

  • WE ARE SPENDING A FORTUNE DOING

  • IT.

  • THEY HAVE THE BARGAIN OF THE

  • CENTURY.

  • ALL I SAID IS, WE HAVE TO

  • RENEGOTIATE THESE AGREEMENTS

  • BECAUSE OUR COUNTRY CANNOT

  • AFFORD TO DEFEND SAUDI ARABIA,

  • JAPAN, GERMANY, SOUTH KOREA AND

  • MANY OTHER PLACES.

  • WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO AFFORD

  • IT.

  • SHE TOOK THAT AS SAYING NUCLEAR

  • .EAPONS

  • LOOK, SHE'S BEEN PROVEN TO BE A

  • LIAR ON SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS.

  • THIS IS JUST ANOTHER LIE.

  • MRS. CLINTON: I'M JUST QUOTING

  • YOU.

  • MR. TRUMP: THERE'S NO QUOTE.

  • YOU'RE NOT GOING TO FIND A

  • QUOTE FROM ME.

  • MRS. CLINTON: NUCLEAR

  • COMPETITION IN ASIA, YOU SAID,

  • GO AHEAD, ENJOY YOURSELF,

  • FOLKS.

  • THAT KIND OF --

  • MR. TRUMP: AND DEFEND

  • YOURSELVES.

  • MRS. CLINTON: WELL.

  • MR. TRUMP: I DIDN'T SAY

  • NUCLEAR.

  • AND DEFEND YOURSELF.

  • MRS. CLINTON: THE UNITED STATES

  • HAS KEPT THE PEACE THROUGH OUR

  • ALLIANCES.

  • DONALD WANTS TO TEAR UP OUR

  • ALLIANCES.

  • I THINK IT MAKES THE WORLD

  • SAFER AND, FRANKLY, IT MAKES

  • THE UNITED STATES SAFER.

  • I WOULD WORK WITH OUR ALLIES IN

  • ASIA, IN EUROPE, IN THE MIDDLE

  • EAST, AND ELSEWHERE.

  • THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GOING

  • --

  • CHRIS: WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON

  • TO THE NEXT TOPIC.

  • WHICH IS THE ECONOMY.

  • I HOPE WE HANDLE THAT AS WELL

  • AS WE DID IMMIGRATION.

  • YOU ALSO HAVE VERY DIFFERENT

  • IDEAS ABOUT HOW TO GET THE

  • ECONOMY GROWING FASTER.

  • SECRETARY CLINTON IN YOUR PLAN,

  • GOVERNMENT PLAYS A BIG ROLE.

  • YOU SEE MORE GOVERNMENT

  • SPENDING, MORE INDICTMENTS,

  • MORE TAX CREDITS, MORE TAX

  • PENALTIES.

  • MR. TRUMP, YOU WANT TO GET

  • GOVERNMENT OUT, WITH LOWER

  • TAXES AND LESS REGULATION.

  • WE'RE GOING TO DRILL DOWN INTO

  • THIS A LITTLE BIT.

  • IN THIS OVERVIEW, PLEASE

  • EXPLAIN TO ME WHY YOU BELIEVE

  • THAT YOUR PLAN WILL CREATE MORE

  • JOBS AND GROWTH FOR THIS

  • COUNTRY, AND YOUR OPPONENT'S

  • PLAN WILL NOT.

  • IN THIS ROUND YOU GO FIRST,

  • SECRETARY CLINTON.

  • MRS. CLINTON: I THINK WHEN THE

  • MIDDLE CLASS THRIVEBS, AMERICA

  • THRIVES.

  • MY PLAN IS BASED ON GROWING THE

  • ECONOMY, GIVING MIDDLE CLASS

  • FAMILIES MANY MORE

  • OPPORTUNITIES.

  • I WANT US TO HAVE THE BIGGEST

  • JOBS PROGRAM SINCE WORLD WAR

  • II.

  • JOBS IN INFRASTRUCTURE AND

  • ADVANCED MANUFACTURING, I THINK

  • WE CAN COMPETE WITH HIGH-WAGE

  • COUNTRIES.

  • I BELIEVE WE SHOULD.

  • NEW JOBS AND CLEAN ENERGY, NOT

  • ONLY TO FIGHT CLIMATE CHANGE,

  • WHICH IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM, BUT

  • TO CREATE NEW OPPORTUNITIES AND

  • NEW BUSINESSES.

  • I WANT US TO DO MORE TO HELP

  • SMALL BILLS.

  • THAT'S WHERE 2/3 OF THE NEW

  • JOBS ARE GOING TO COME FROM.

  • I WANT US TO RAISE THE NATIONAL

  • MINIMUM WAGE.

  • BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN

  • POVERTY SHOULD NOT -- WHO WORK

  • FULL TIME SHOULD NOT STILL BE

  • IN POVERTY.

  • I SURE DO WANT TO MAKE SURE

  • WOMEN GET EQUAL PAY FOR THE

  • WORK WE DO.

  • I FEEL STRONGLY THAT WE HAVE TO

  • HAVE AN EDUCATION SYSTEM THAT

  • STARTS WITH PRESCHOOL AND GOES

  • THROUGH COLLEGE.

  • THAT'S WHY I WANT MORE

  • TECHNICAL EDUCATION AND HIGH

  • SCHOOL -- IN HIGH SCHOOLS AND

  • IN COMMUNITY COLLEGES, REAL

  • APPRENTICESHIPS, TO PREPARE

  • YOUNG PEOPLE FOR THE JOBS OF

  • THE FUTURE.

  • I WANT TO MAKE COLLEGE

  • DEBT-FREE AND FOR FAMILIES

  • MAKING LESS THAN $125,000, WILL

  • YOU NOT GET A TUITION BILL FROM

  • A PUBLIC COLLEGE OR UNIVERSITY,

  • IF THE PLAN THAT I WORKED ON

  • WITH BERNIE SANDERS IS ENACTED.

  • WE'RE GOING TO WORK HARD TO

  • MAKE SURE THAT IT IS.

  • BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO GO

  • WHERE THE MONEY IS.

  • MOST OF THE GAINS IN THE LAST

  • YEARS SINCE THE GREAT RECESSION

  • HAVE GONE TO THE VERY TOP.

  • SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THE

  • WEALTHY PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE.

  • WE'RE GOING TO HAVE

  • CORPORATIONS MAKE A

  • CONTRIBUTION GREATER THAN THEY

  • ARE NOW TO OUR COUNTRY.

  • BEEN A PLAN THAT HAS

  • ANLITESED BY INDEPENDENT

  • EXPERTS, WHICH SAID THAT IT

  • COULD PRODUCE 10 MILLION NEW

  • JOBS.

  • BY CONTRAST, DONALD'S PLAN HAS

  • BEEN ANALYZED TO CONCLUDE IT

  • MIGHT LOSE 3 1/2 MILLION JOBS.

  • WHY?

  • BECAUSE HIS WHOLE PLAN IS TO

  • CUT TAXES, TO GIVE THE BIGGEST

  • TAX BREAKS EVER TO THE WEALTHY

  • AND TO CORPORATIONS.

  • ADDING $20 TRILLION TO OUR

  • DEBT, AND CAUSING THE KIND OF

  • DISLOCATION THAT WE HAVE SEEN

  • BEFORE.

  • BECAUSE IT TRULY WILL BE

  • TRICKLE-DOWN ECONOMICS ON

  • STEROIDS.

  • SO THE PLAN I HAVE I THINK WILL

  • ACTUALLY PRODUCE GREATER

  • OPPORTUNITIES.

  • THE PLAN HE HAS WILL COST US

  • JOBS AND POSSIBLY LEAD TO

  • ANOTHER GREAT RECESSION.

  • CHRIS: SECRETARY, THANK YOU.

  • MR. TRUMP, WHY WILL YOUR PLAN

  • CREATE MORE JOBS AND GROWTH

  • THAN SECRETARY CLINTON'S?

  • MR. TRUMP: FIRST OF ALL, BEFORE

  • I START ON MY PLAN, HER PLAN IS

  • GOING TO RAISE TAXES AND EVEN

  • DOUBLE YOUR TAXES.

  • HER TAX PLAN IS A DISASTER.

  • SHE CAN SAY ALL SHE WANTS ABOUT

  • COLLEGE TUITION AND I'M A BIG

  • PROPONENT, WE'RE GOING TO DO A

  • LOT OF THINGS FOR COLLEGE

  • TUITION.

  • BUT THE REST OF THE PUBLIC'S

  • GOING TO BE PAYING FOR IT.

  • WE WILL HAVE A MASSIVE, MASSIVE

  • TAX INCREASE UNDER HILLARY

  • CLINTON'S PLAN.

  • I'D LIKE TO START OFF WHERE WE

  • LEFT.

  • BECAUSE WHEN I SAID JAPAN AND

  • GERMANY AND I'M NOT SINGLING

  • THEM OUT, BUT SOUTH KOREA,

  • THESE ARE VERY RICH, POWERFUL

  • COUNTRIES.

  • SAUDI ARABIA.

  • NOTHING BUT MONEY.

  • WE PROTECT SAUDI ARABIA.

  • WHY AREN'T THEY PAYING?

  • SHE IMMEDIATELY, WHEN SHE HEARD

  • THIS, I QUESTIONED IT AND I

  • QUESTIONED NATO, WHY AREN'T

  • THEY PAYING?

  • BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T PAYING.

  • SINCE I DID THIS A YEAR AGO,

  • ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY'RE PAYING.

  • I'VE BEEN GIVEN A LOT OF CREDIT

  • FOR IT.

  • ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY'RE

  • STARTING TO PAY UP.

  • THEY HAVE TO PAY UP.

  • WE'RE PROTECTING PEOPLE.

  • THEY HAVE TO PAY UP.

  • I'M A BIG FAN OF NATO.

  • BUT THEY HAVE TO PAY UP.

  • SHE COMES OUT AND SAID, WE LOVE

  • OUR ALLIES, WE THINK OUR ALLIES

  • ARE GREAT.

  • WELL, IT'S AWFULLY HARD TO GET

  • THEM TO PAY UP WHEN YOU HAVE

  • SOMEBODY SAYING, WE THINK HOW

  • GREAT THEY ARE.

  • WE HAVE TO TELL JAPAN IN A VERY

  • NICE WAY, WE HAVE TO TELL

  • GERMANY, ALL OF THESE

  • COUNTRIES, SOUTH KOREA, WE HAVE

  • TO SAY, YOU HAVE TO HELP US

  • OUT.

  • WE HAVE, DURING HIS REGIME,

  • DURING PRESIDENT OBAMA'S

  • REGIME, WE'VE DOUBLED OUR

  • NATIONAL DEBT.

  • WE'RE UP TO $20 TRILLION.

  • SO MY PLAN, WE'RE GOING TO

  • RENEGOTIATE TRADE DEALS.

  • WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF

  • FREE TRADE.

  • MORE FREE TRADE THAN WE HAVE

  • RIGHT NOW.

  • BUT WE HAVE HORRIBLE DEALS.

  • OUR JOBS ARE BEING TAKEN OUT BY

  • THE DEAL THAT HER HUSBAND

  • SIGNED.

  • NAFTA.

  • ONE OF THE WORST DEAL EVER.

  • OUR JOBS ARE BEING SUCKED OUT

  • OF OUR ECONOMY.

  • YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THE PLACES I

  • JUST LEFT, YOU GO TO

  • PENNSYLVANIA, YOU GO TO OHIO,

  • YOU GO TO FLORIDA, YOU GO TO

  • ANY OF THEM, YOU GO UPSTATE NEW

  • YORK, OUR JOBS HAVE FLED TO

  • MEXICO AND OTHER PLACES.

  • WE'RE BRINGING OUR JOBS BACK.

  • I AM GOING TO RENEGOTIATE 1/2

  • AT IT.

  • IF I CAN'T MAKE A GREAT DEAL --

  • NAFTA.

  • IF I CAN'T MAKE A GREAT DEAL

  • WE'RE GOING TO TERMINATE NAFTA

  • AND MAKE NEW DEALS.

  • WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TRADE.

  • WE'RE GOING TO TERMINATE IT,

  • WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A GREAT

  • TRADE DEAL.

  • IF WE CAN'T, WE'RE GOING TO DO

  • IT, WE'RE GOING TO GO A

  • SEPARATE WAY.

  • BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN A DISASTER.

  • WE'RE GOING TO CUT TAXES

  • MASSIVELY.

  • WE'RE GOING TO CUT BUSINESS

  • TAXES MASSIVELY.

  • THEY'RE GOING TO START HIRING

  • PEOPLE.

  • WE'RE GOING TO BRING THE 2DS.5

  • TRILLION THAT'S OFFSHORE BACK

  • INTO THE COUNTRY -- $2.5

  • TRILLION THAT'S OFFSHORE BACK

  • INTO THE COUNTRY.

  • WE'RE GOING TO START THE ENGINE

  • ROLLING AGAIN BECAUSE OUR

  • COUNTRY IS DYING AT 1% G.D.P.

  • MRS. CLINTON: LET ME TRANSLATE

  • THAT IF I CAN, CHRIS.

  • MR. TRUMP: YOU CAN'T.

  • MRS. CLINTON: THE FACT IS HE'S

  • GOING TO ADVOCATE FOR THE

  • LARGEST TAX CUTS WE'VE EVER

  • SEEN.

  • THREE TIMES MORE THAN THE TAX

  • CUTS UNDER THE BUSH

  • ADMINISTRATION.

  • I HAVE SAID REPEATEDLY

  • THROUGHOUT THIS CAMPAIGN, I

  • WILL NOT RAISE TAXES ON ANYONE

  • MAKING $250,000 OR LESS.

  • I ALSO WILL NOT ADD A PENNY TO

  • THE DEBT.

  • I HAVE COSTED OUT WHAT I'M

  • GOING TO DO.

  • HE WILL, THROUGH HIS MASSIVE

  • TAX CUTS, ADD $0 TRILLION TO

  • THE DEBT -- $20 TRILLION TO THE

  • DEBT.

  • HE MENTIONED THE DEBT.

  • WE KNOW HOW TO GET CONTROL OF

  • THE DEBT.

  • WHEN MY HUSBAND WAS PRESIDENT,

  • WE WENT FROM A 3DS00 BILLION

  • DEFICIT TO A $-- $300 BILLION

  • DEFICIT TO A $200 BILLION

  • SURPLUS.

  • WE WERE ON A PATH TO

  • ELIMINATING THE NATIONAL DEBT.

  • WHEN PRESIDENT OBAMA CAME INTO

  • OFFICE, HE INHERITED THE WORST

  • ECONOMIC DISASTER SINCE THE

  • GREAT DEPRESSION.

  • HE CUT THE DEFICIT BY 2/3.

  • SO, YES, ONE OF THE WAYS YOU GO

  • AFTER THE DEBT, ONE OF THE WAY

  • YOU CREATE JOBS, IS BY

  • INVESTING IN PEOPLE.

  • DO I HAVE INVESTMENTS,

  • INVESTMENTS IN NEW JOBS,

  • INVESTMENTS IN EDUCATION, SKILL

  • TRAINING, AND THE OPPORTUNITIES

  • FOR PEOPLE TO GET AHEAD AND

  • STAY AHEAD.

  • THAT'S THE KIND OF APPROACH

  • THAT WILL WORK.

  • CUTTING TAXES ON THE WEALTHY,

  • WE'VE TRIED THAT.

  • IT HAS NOT WORKED THE WAY THAT

  • IT HAS BEEN PROMISED.

  • CHRIS: I WANT TO PURSUE YOUR

  • PLAN.

  • BECAUSE IN MANY WAYS IT IS

  • SIMILAR TO THE OBAMA STIMULUS

  • PLAN IN 2009.

  • WHICH HAS LED TO THE SLOWEST

  • G.D.P. GROWTH SINCE 1949.

  • MR. TRUMP: CORRECT.

  • CHRIS: THANK YOU, SIR.

  • YOU TOLD ME IN JULY, WHEN WE

  • SPOKE, THAT THE PROBLEM IS THAT

  • PRESIDENT OBAMA DIDN'T GET TO

  • DO ENOUGH IN WHAT HE WAS TRYING

  • TO DO WITH THIS STIMULUS.

  • IS YOUR PLAN BASICALLY MORE --

  • EVEN MORE OF THE OBAMA

  • STIMULUS?

  • MRS. CLINTON: IT'S A

  • COMBINATION.

  • LET ME SAY THAT WHEN YOU

  • INHERIT THE LEVEL OF ECONOMIC

  • CATASTROPHE THAT PRESIDENT

  • OBAMA INHERITED, IT WAS A REAL

  • TOUCH AND GO SITUATION.

  • I WAS IN THE SENATE BEFORE I

  • BECAME SECRETARY OF STATE.

  • I'VE NEVER SEEN PEOPLE AS

  • PHYSICALLY DISTRAUGHT AS THE

  • BUSH ADMINISTRATION'S TEAM WAS

  • BECAUSE OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING

  • TO THE ECONOMY.

  • I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT THE

  • STEPS THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA TOOK

  • SAVED THE ECONOMY.

  • HE DOESN'T GET THE CREDIT HE

  • DESERVES FOR TAKING SOME VERY

  • HARD POSITIONS.

  • BUT IT WAS A TERRIBLE

  • RECESSION.

  • SO NOW WE'VE DUG OURSELVES OUT

  • OF IT, WE'RE STANDING, BUT

  • WE'RE NOT YET RUNNING, SO WHAT

  • I AM PROPOSING IS THAT WE

  • INVEST FROM THE MIDDLE-OUT AND

  • THE GROUND-UP.

  • NOT THE TOP-DOWN.

  • THAT IS NOT GOING TO WORK.

  • THAT'S WHY WHAT I HAVE PUT

  • FORWARD DOESN'T ADD A PENNY TO

  • THE DEBT.

  • BUT IT IS THE KIND OF APPROACH

  • THAT WILL ENABLE MORE PEOPLE TO

  • TAKE THOSE NEW JOBS, HIGHER

  • PAYING JOBS.

  • WE'RE BEGINNING TO SEE SOME

  • INCREASE IN INCOMES.

  • AND WE CERTAINLY HAVE HAD A

  • LONG STRING OF INCREASING JOBS.

  • WE'VE GOT TO DO MORE TO GET THE

  • WHOLE ECONOMY MOVING AND THAT'S

  • WHAT I BELIEVE I WILL BE ABLE

  • TO DO.

  • CHRIS: MR. TRUMP, EVEN

  • CONSERVATIVE ECONOMISTS WHO

  • HAVE LOOKED AT YOUR PLAN SAY

  • THAT THE NUMBERS DON'T ADD UP.

  • THAT YOUR IDEA AND YOU'VE

  • TALKED ABOUT 25 MILLION JOBS

  • CREATED, 4% --

  • MR. TRUMP: OVER A 10-YEAR

  • PERIOD.

  • CHRIS: IS UNREALISTIC.

  • THEY SAY, YOU TALK A LOT ABOUT

  • GROWING THE ENERGY INDUSTRY,

  • THEY SAY WITH OIL PRICES AS LOW

  • AS THEY ARE RIGHT NOW, THAT'S

  • UNREALISTIC AS WELL.

  • YOUR RESPONSE?

  • MR. TRUMP: I JUST LEFT SOME

  • HIGH REPRESENTATIVES OF INDIA.

  • THEY'RE GROWING AT 8%.

  • CHINA IS GROWING AT 7%.

  • AND AFTER THEM IS A

  • CATASTROPHICALLY LOW NUMBER.

  • WE ARE GROWING, OUR LAST REPORT

  • CAME OUT AND THE AROUND THE 1%

  • LEVEL, AND I THINK THE GOING

  • DOWN.

  • LAST WEEK, AS YOU KNOW, THE END

  • OF LAST WEEK, THEY CAME OUT

  • WITH AN ANEMIC JOBS REPORT.

  • A TERRIBLE JOBS REPORT.

  • IN FACT, I SAID, IS THAT THE

  • LAST JOBS REPORT BEFORE THE

  • ELECTION?

  • BECAUSE IF IT IS, I SHOULD WIN

  • EASILY.

  • IT WAS SO BAD.

  • THE REPORT WAS SO BAD.

  • OUR COUNTRY IS STAGNANT.

  • WE'VE LOST OUR JOBS.

  • WE'VE LOST OUR BUSINESSES.

  • WE'RE NOT MAKING THINGS

  • ANYMORE.

  • RELATIVELY SPEAKING.

  • OUR PRODUCT IS POURING IN FROM

  • CHINA, POURING IN FROM VIETNAM,

  • POURING IN FROM ALL OVER THE

  • WORLD.

  • I'VE VISITED SO MANY

  • COMMUNITIES, THIS HAS BEEN SUCH

  • AN INCREDIBLE EDUCATION FOR ME.

  • I'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW SO MANY,

  • I'VE DEVELOPED SO MANY FRIENDS

  • OVER THE LAST YEAR.

  • THEY CRY WHEN THEY SEE WHAT'S

  • HAPPENED.

  • I PASS FACTORIES THAT WERE

  • THRIVING 20, 25 YEARS AGO.

  • AND BECAUSE OF THE BILL THAT

  • HER HUSBAND SIGNED AND SHE

  • BLESSED 100%, IT IS JUST

  • HORRIBLE WHAT'S HAPPENED TO

  • THESE PEOPLE IN THESE

  • COMMUNITIES.

  • SHE CAN SAY THAT HER HUSBAND

  • DID WELL.

  • BUT, BOY, DID THEY SUFFER, AS

  • NAFTA KICKED IN, BECAUSE IT

  • DIDN'T REALLY KICK IN VERY

  • MUCH.

  • BUT IT KICKED IN AFTER THEY

  • LEFT.

  • BOY, DID THEY SUFFER.

  • THAT WAS ONE OF THE WORST

  • THINGS THAT'S EVER BEEN SIGNED

  • BY OUR COUNTRY.

  • NOW SHE WANT TO SIGN

  • TRANS-PACIFIC PARTNERSHIP.

  • SHE WANTS IT -- SHE LIED WHEN

  • SHE SAID SHE DIDN'T CALL IT THE

  • GOLD STANDARD IN ONE OF THE

  • DEBATES.

  • SHE TOTALLY LIED.

  • SHE DID CALL IT THE GOLD

  • STANDARD.

  • AND THEY ACTUALLY FACT CHECKED

  • AND SAID I WAS RIGHT.

  • I WAS SO HONORED.

  • CHRIS: I WANT TO GIVE YOU A

  • CHANCE TO BRIEFLY SPEAK TO.

  • THAT THEN I WANT TO -- TO THAT.

  • THEN I WANT TO PIVOT.

  • THIS IS OBAMACARE.

  • GO AHEAD, BRIEFLY.

  • MRS. CLINTON: LET ME SAY,

  • NUMBER ONE, WHEN I SAW THE

  • FINAL AGREEMENT FOR T.P.P. I

  • SAID I WAS AGAINST IT.

  • IT DIDN'T MEET MY TESTS.

  • I'VE HAD THE SAME TESTS.

  • DOES IT CREATE JOBS, RAISE

  • INCOMES, AND FURTHER OR

  • NATIONAL SECURITY?

  • I'M AGAINST IT NOW, I'LL BE

  • AGAINST IT AFTER THE ELECTION.

  • I'LL BE AGAINST IT WHEN I'M

  • PRESIDENT.

  • THERE'S ONLY ONE OF US ON THIS

  • STAGE WHO'S ACTUALLY SHIPPED

  • JOBS TO MEXICO.

  • BECAUSE THAT'S DONALD.

  • HE'S SHIPPED JOBS TO 12

  • COUNTRIES.

  • INCLUDING MEXICO.

  • HE MENTIONED CHINA.

  • YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BIGGEST

  • PROBLEMS WE HAVE THIS WITH

  • CHINA IS THE ILLEGAL -- WE HAVE

  • WITH CHINA IS THE ILLEGAL DUMPS

  • OF STEEL AND ALUMINUM INTO OUR

  • MARKETS.

  • I'VE FOUGHT AGAINST THAT, AS

  • SENATOR I STOOD UP AGAINST IT,

  • AS SECRETARY OF STATE.

  • DONALD HAS BOUGHT CHINESE STEEL

  • AND ALUMINUM.

  • THE TRUMP HOTEL RIGHT HERE IN

  • LAS VEGAS WAS MADE WITH CHINESE

  • STEEL.

  • SO HE GOES AROUND WITH

  • CROCODILE TEARS ABOUT HOW

  • TERRIBLE IT IS, BUT HE HAS

  • GIVEN JOBS TO CHINESE STEEL

  • WORKERS, NOT AMERICAN STEEL

  • WORKERS.

  • THAT'S THE KIND OF APPROACH

  • THAT IS JUST NOT GOING TO WORK.

  • WE'RE GOING TO PULL THE COUNTRY

  • TOGETHER, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE

  • TRADE AGREEMENTS THAT WE

  • ENFORCE.

  • THAT'S WHY I'M GOING TO HAVE A

  • TRADE PROSECUTOR FOR THE FIRST

  • TIME IN HISTORY.

  • AND WE'RE GOING TO ENFORCE

  • THOSE AGREEMENTS.

  • WE'RE GOING TO LOOK FOR

  • BUSINESSES THAT HELP US BY

  • BUYING AMERICAN PRODUCTS.

  • MR. TRUMP: I ASK A SIMPLE

  • QUESTION.

  • SHE'S BEEN DOING THIS FOR 30

  • YEARS.

  • WHY THE HELL DIDN'T YOU DO IT

  • OVER THE LAST 15, 20 YEARS?

  • YOU WERE VERY MUCH INVOLVED.

  • MRS. CLINTON: I VOTED --

  • MR. TRUMP: EXCUSE ME.

  • MY TURN.

  • YOU WERE VERY MUCH INVOLVED IN

  • THIS ASPECT OF OUR COUNTRY,

  • VERY MUCH.

  • AND YOU DO HAVE EXPERIENCE.

  • THE ONE THING YOU HAVE OVER ME

  • IS EXPERIENCE.

  • BUT THE BAD EXPERIENCE.

  • BECAUSE WHAT YOU'VE DONE HAS

  • TURNED OUT BADLY.

  • FOR 30 YEARS YOU'VE BEEN IN A

  • POSITION TO HELP.

  • IF YOU SAY THAT I USED STEEL OR

  • I USED SOMETHING ELSE, I MAKE

  • IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO DO

  • THAT.

  • I WOULDN'T MIND.

  • THE PROBLEM IS YOU TALK BUT YOU

  • DON'T GET ANYTHING DONE,

  • HILLARY.

  • YOU DON'T.

  • JUST LIKE WHEN YOU RAN THE

  • STATE DEPARTMENT.

  • $6 BILLION WAS MISSING.

  • HOW DO YOU MISS $6 BILLION?

  • YOU RAN THE STATE DEPARTMENT,

  • $6 BILLION WAS EITHER STOLEN,

  • THEY DON'T KNOW.

  • IT'S GONE.

  • $6 BILLION.

  • IF YOU BECOME PRESIDENT, THIS

  • COUNTRY IS GOING TO BE IN SOME

  • MESS.

  • BELIEVE ME.

  • MRS. CLINTON: FIRST OF ALL,

  • WHAT HE JUST SAID ABOUT THE

  • STATE DEPARTMENT IS NOT ONLY

  • UNTRUE, IT'S BEEN DID YOU

  • BUNKED -- DEBUNKED NUMEROUS

  • TIMES.

  • I THINK IT'S REALLY AN

  • IMPORTANT ISSUE.

  • HE RAISED THE 30 YEARS OF

  • EXPERIENCE.

  • LET ME TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT THAT.

  • BACK IN THE 1970'S, I WORKED

  • FOR THE CHILDREN'S DEFENSE FUND

  • AND I WAS TAKING ON

  • DISCRIMINATION AGAINST

  • AFRICAN-AMERICAN KIDS IN

  • SCHOOLS.

  • HE WAS GETTING SUED BY THE

  • JUSTICE DEPARTMENT FOR RACIAL

  • DISCRIMINATION IN HIS APARTMENT

  • BUILDINGS.

  • IN THE 1980'S I WAS WORKING TO

  • REFORM THE SCHOOLS IN ARKANSAS.

  • HE WAS BORROWING $14 MILLION

  • FROM HIS FATHER TO START HIS

  • BUSINESSES.

  • IN THE 1990'S I WENT TO BEIJING

  • AND I SAID, WOMEN'S RIGHTS ARE

  • HUMAN RIGHTS.

  • HE INSULTED A FORMER MISS

  • UNIVERSE, CALLED HER AN EATING

  • MACHINE.

  • AND ON THE DAY WHEN I WAS IN

  • THE SITUATION ROOM MONITORING

  • THE RAID THAT BROUGHT OSAMA BIN

  • LADEN TO JUSTICE, HE WAS

  • HOSTING THE "CELEBRITY

  • APPRENTICE."

  • SO I'M HAPPY TO COMPARE MY 30

  • YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, WHAT I'VE

  • DONE FOR THIS COUNTRY, TRYING

  • TO HELP IN EVERY WAY I COULD,

  • ESPECIALLY KIDS AND FAMILIES

  • GET AHEAD AND STAY AHEAD, WITH

  • YOUR 30 YEARS.

  • AND I'LL LET THE AMERICAN

  • PEOPLE MAKE THAT DECISION.

  • MR. TRUMP: I THINK I DID A MUCH

  • BETTER JOB.

  • I BUILT A MASSIVE COMPANY, A

  • GREAT COMPANY.

  • SOME OF THE GREATEST ASSETS

  • ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.

  • WORTH MANY, MANY BILLIONS OF

  • DOLLARS.

  • I STARTED WITH A $1 MILLION

  • LOAN.

  • I AGREE WITH THAT.

  • THE A $1 MILLION LOAN.

  • BUT I BUILT -- IT'S A $1

  • MILLION LOAN.

  • BUT I BUILT A PHENOMENAL

  • COMPANY.

  • IF WE COULD RUN OUR COUNTRY THE

  • WAY I'VE RUN MY COMPANY, WE

  • WOULD HAVE A COUNTRY THAT YOU

  • WOULD BE SO PROUD OF.

  • YOU WOULD EVEN BE PROUD OF IT.

  • AND FRANKLY, WHEN YOU LOOK AT

  • HER REAL RECORD, TAKE A LOOK AT

  • SYRIA.

  • TAKE A LOOK AT THE MIGRATION.

  • TAKE A LOOK AT LIBYA.

  • TAKE A LOOK AT IRAQ.

  • SHE GAVE US ISIS BECAUSE HER

  • AND OBAMA CREATED THIS HUGE

  • VACUUM.

  • A SMALL GROUP CAME OUT OF THAT

  • HUGE VACUUM BECAUSE WE SHOULD

  • HAVE NEVER BEEN IN IRAQ, BUT

  • ONCE WE WERE THERE, WE SHOULD

  • HAVE NEVER GOT OUT THE WAY THEY

  • WANTED TO GET OUT.

  • SHE GAVE US ISIS AS SURE AS YOU

  • ARE SITTING THERE, AND WHAT

  • HAPPENED IS NOW ISIS IS IN 32

  • COUNTRIES AND NOW I LISTEN HOW

  • SHE'S GOING TO GET RID OF ISIS.

  • SHE'S GOING TO GET RID OF

  • NOBODY.

  • CHRIS: WE ARE GOING TO GET TO

  • FOREIGN HOT SPOTS IN A FEW

  • MOMENTS.

  • BUT THE NEXT SEGMENT IS FITNESS

  • TO BE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED

  • STATES.

  • MR. TRUMP, AT THE LAST DEBATE,

  • YOU SAID YOUR TALK ABOUT

  • GRABBING WOMEN WAS JUST THAT,

  • TALK.

  • AND THAT YOU'D NEVER ACTUALLY

  • DONE IT.

  • SINCE THEN, AS WE ALL KNOW,

  • NINE WOMEN HAVE COME FORWARD

  • AND SAID THAT YOU EITHER GROPED

  • THEM OR KISSED THEM WITHOUT

  • THEIR CONSENT.

  • WHY WOULD SO MANY DIFFERENT

  • WOMEN FROM SO MANY DIFFERENT

  • CIRCUMSTANCES OVER SO MANY

  • DIFFERENT YEARS, WHY WOULD THEY

  • ALL IN THIS LAST COUPLE OF

  • WEEKS MAKE UP, YOU DENY THIS,

  • WHY WOULD THEY ALL MAKE UP

  • THESE STORIES, AND SINCE THIS

  • IS A QUESTION FOR BOTH OF YOU,

  • SECRETARY CLINTON, MR. TRUMP

  • SAYS WHAT YOUR HUSBAND DID AND

  • THAT YOU DEFENDED WAS EVEN

  • WORSE, MR. TRUMP, YOU GO FIRST.

  • MR. TRUMP: FIRST OF ALL, THOSE

  • STORIES HAVE BEEN LARGELY

  • DEBUNKED.

  • THOSE PEOPLE, I DON'T KNOW

  • THOSE PEOPLE.

  • I HAVE A FEELING HOW THEY CAME.

  • I BELIEVE IT WAS HER EXABE THAT

  • DID IT -- CAMPAIGN THAT DID IT.

  • JUST LIKE IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT

  • CAME OUT TODAY ON THE CLIPS,

  • WHERE I WAS WONDERING, WHAT

  • HAPPENED WITH MY RALLY IN

  • CHICAGO, AND OTHER RALLIES

  • WHERE WE HAD SUCH VIOLENCE?

  • SN SHE'S THE ONE, AND OBAMA,

  • THAT CAUSED THE VIOLENCE.

  • THEY HIRED PEOPLE, THEY PAID

  • THEM $1,500, AND THEY'RE ON

  • TAPE SAYING, BE VIOLENT, CAUSE

  • FIGHTS, DO BAD THINGS.

  • I WOULD SAY THE ONLY WAY --

  • BECAUSE THOSE STORIES ARE ALL

  • TOTALLY FALSE, I HAVE TO SAY

  • THAT.

  • I DIDN'T EVEN APOLOGIZE TO MY

  • WIFE WHO'S SITTING RIGHT HERE,

  • BECAUSE I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING.

  • I DIDN'T KNOW ANY OF THESE

  • WOMEN.

  • I DIDN'T SEE THESE WOMEN.

  • THESE WOMEN, THE WOMAN ON THE

  • PLANE, THE WOMAN -- I THINK

  • THEY WANT EITHER FAME OR HER

  • CAMPAIGN DID IT.

  • I THINK IT'S HER CAMPAIGN.

  • BECAUSE WHAT I SAW, WHAT THEY

  • DID, WHICH IS A CRIMINAL ACT BY

  • THE WAY, WHERE THEY'RE TELLING

  • PEOPLE TO GO OUT AND START FIST

  • FIGHTS AND START VIOLENCE, I'LL

  • TELL YOU WHAT, IN PARTICULAR IN

  • CHICAGO, PEOPLE WERE HURT AND

  • PEOPLE COULD HAVE BEEN KILLED

  • IN THAT RIOT.

  • AND THAT WAS NOW ALL ON TAPE.

  • STARTED BY HER.

  • I BELIEVE THAT SHE GOT THESE

  • PEOPLE TO STEP FORWARD.

  • IF IT WASN'T, THEY GET THEIR 10

  • MINUTES OF FAME.

  • THEY WERE ALL TOTALLY -- IT WAS

  • ALL FICTION.

  • IT WAS LIES AND IT WAS FICTION.

  • MRS. CLINTON: AT THE LAST

  • DEBATE, WE HEARD DONALD TALKING

  • ABOUT WHAT HE DID TO WOMEN.

  • AND AFTER THAT, A UNTIL OF

  • WOMEN HAVE COME FORWARD -- A

  • NUMBER OF WOMEN HAVE COME

  • FORWARD SAYING THAT'S EXACTLY

  • WHAT HE DID TO THEM.

  • WHAT WAS HIS RESPONSE?

  • WELL, HE HELD A NUMBER OF BIG

  • RALLIES WHERE HE SAID THAT HE

  • COULD NOT POSSIBLY HAVE DONE

  • THOSE THINGS TO THOSE WOMEN

  • BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT

  • ATTRACTIVE ENOUGH FOR THEM TO

  • BE ASSAULTED.

  • MR. TRUMP: I DID NOT SAY.

  • THAT

  • MRS. CLINTON: IN FACT, HE WENT

  • ON TO SAY --

  • CHRIS: HER TWO MINUTES ARE HER

  • TWO MINUTES.

  • MR. TRUMP: I DID NOT SAY.

  • THAT

  • MRS. CLINTON: HE WENT ON TO

  • SAY, LOO LOOK AT HER.

  • I DON'T THINK SO.

  • ABOUT ANOTHER WOMAN HE SAID,

  • THAT WOULDN'T BE MY FIRST

  • CHOICE.

  • HE ATTACKED THE WOMAN REPORTER

  • WRITING THE STORY, CALLED HER

  • DISGUSTING, AS HE HAS CALLED A

  • NUMBER OF WOMEN DURING THIS

  • CAMPAIGN.

  • DONALD THINKS BELITTLING WOMEN

  • MAKES HIM BIGGER.

  • HE GOES AFTER THEIR DIGNITY,

  • THEIR SELF-WORTH, AND I DON'T

  • THINK THERE IS A WOMAN ANYWHERE

  • WHO DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THAT

  • FEELS LIKE.

  • SO WE NOW KNOW WHAT DONALD

  • THINKS AND WHAT HE SAYS AND HOW

  • HE ACTS TOWARD WOMEN.

  • THAT'S WHO DONALD IS.

  • I THINK IT'S REALLY UP TO ALL

  • OF US TO DEMONSTRATE WHO WE ARE

  • AND WHO OUR COUNTRY IS AND TO

  • STAND UP AND BE VERY CLEAR

  • ABOUT WHAT WE EXPECT FROM OUR

  • NEXT PRESIDENT, HOW WE WANT TO

  • BRING OUR COUNTRY TOGETHER,

  • WHERE WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE THE

  • KIND OF PITTING OF PEOPLE ONE

  • AGAINST THE OTHER, WHERE

  • INSTEAD WE CELEBRATE OUR

  • DIVERSITY, WE LIFT PEOPLE UP,

  • AND WE MAKE OUR COUNTRY EVEN

  • GREATER.

  • AMERICA IS GREAT BECAUSE

  • AMERICA IS GOOD.

  • IT REALLY IS UP TO ALL OF US TO

  • MAKE THAT TRUE, NOW AND IN THE

  • FUTURE, AND PARTICULARLY FOR

  • OUR CHILDREN AND OUR

  • GRANDCHILDREN.

  • CHRIS: MR. TRUMP --

  • MR. TRUMP: NOBODY HAS MORE

  • RESPECT FOR WOMEN THAN I DO.

  • NOBODY.

  • [LAUGHTER]

  • NOBODY HAS MORE --

  • CHRIS: PLEASE, EVERYBODY.

  • MR. TRUMP: FRANKLY, THOSE

  • STORIES HAVE BEEN LARGELY

  • DEBUNKED.

  • I REALLY WANT TO JUST TALK

  • ABOUT SOMETHING SLIGHTLY

  • DIFFERENT.

  • SHE MENTIONS THIS, WHICH IS ALL

  • FICTION, ALL FICTION LIES,

  • PROBABLY OR POSSIBLY STARTED BY

  • HER AND HER VERY SLEAZEY

  • CAMPAIGN.

  • BUT I WILL TELL YOU, WHAT ISN'T

  • FICTIONALIZED ARE HER EMAILS

  • WHERE SHE DESTROYED 33,000

  • EMAILS, CRIMINALLY.

  • CRIMINALLY.

  • AFTER GETTING A SUBPOENA FROM

  • THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS.

  • WHAT HAPPENED TO THE F.B.I.?

  • I DON'T KNOW.

  • WE HAVE A GREAT GENERAL, FOUR

  • STAR GENERAL, TODAY, YOU READ

  • IT IN ALL THE PAPERS, THE ONE

  • WHO POTENTIALLY SERVED FIVE

  • YEARS IN JAIL FOR LYING TO THE

  • F.B.I..

  • ONE LIE.

  • SHE'S LIED HUNDREDS OF TIMES TO

  • THE PEOPLE, TO CONGRESS, AND TO

  • THE F.B.I.

  • HE'S GOING TO PROBABLY GO TO

  • JAIL.

  • THIS IS A FOUR-STAR GENERAL.

  • AND SHE GETS AWAY WITH IT.

  • AND SHE CAN RUN FOR THE

  • PRESIDENCY OF THE UNITED STATES

  • .

  • THAT'S REALLY WHAT YOU SHOULD

  • BE TALKING ABOUT.

  • NOT FICTION, WHERE SOMEBODY

  • WANTS FAME OR WHERE THEY COME

  • OUT OF HER CROOKED CAMPAIGN.

  • CHRIS: SECRETARY CLINTON.

  • MRS. CLINTON: EVERY TIME DONALD

  • HAS PUSHED -- IS PUSHED ON

  • SOMETHING, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY

  • UNCOMFORTABLE, LIKE WHAT THESE

  • WOMEN ARE SAYING, HE

  • IMMEDIATELY GOES TO DENYING

  • RESPONSIBILITY, AND THE NOT

  • JUST ABOUT WOMEN.

  • HE NEVER APOLOGIZED OR SAYS

  • HE'S SORRY FOR ANYTHING --

  • APOLOGIZES OR SAYS HE'S SORRY

  • FOR ANYTHING.

  • WE KNOW WHAT HE'S SAID AND DONE

  • TO WOMEN.

  • BUT HE ALSO WENT AFTER A

  • DISABLED REPORTER, MOCKED AND

  • MEMICED HIM ON NATIONAL

  • TELEVISION.

  • MR. TRUMP: WRONG.

  • MRS. CLINTON: HE WENT AFTER MR.

  • AND MRS. KAHN, THE PARENTS OF A

  • YOUNG MAN WHO DIED SERVING OUR

  • COUNTRY, A GOLD STAR FAMILY,

  • BECAUSE OF THEIR RELIGION.

  • HE WENT AFTER JOHN MCCAIN, A

  • PRISONER OF WAR, SAID HE

  • PREFERS PEOPLE WHO AREN'T

  • CAPTURED.

  • HE WENT AFTER A FEDERAL JUDGE,

  • BORN IN INDIANA, BUT WHO DONALD

  • SAID COULDN'T BE TRUSTED TO TRY

  • THE FRAUD AND RACKETEERING CASE

  • AGAINST TRUMP UNIVERSITY

  • BECAUSE HIS PARENTS WERE

  • MEXICAN.

  • SO, THE NOT ONE THING, THIS IS

  • A PATTERN.

  • A PATTERN OF DIVISIVENESS, OF A

  • VERY DARK AND IN MANY WAYS

  • DANGEROUS VISION OF OUR

  • COUNTRY.

  • WHERE HE INSIGHTS VIOLENCE,

  • WHERE HE APPLAUDS PEOPLE WHO

  • ARE PUSHING AND PULLING AND

  • PUNCHING AT HIS RALLIES.

  • THAT IS NOT WHO AMERICA IS.

  • AND I HOPE THAT AS WE MOVE IN

  • THE LAST WEEKS OF THIS

  • CAMPAIGN, MORE AND MORE PEOPLE

  • WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT'S AT STAKE

  • IN THIS ELECTION.

  • IT REALLY DOES COME DOWN TO

  • WHAT KIND OF COUNTRY WE ARE

  • GOING TO HAVE.

  • MR. TRUMP: SO SAD WHEN SHE

  • TALKS ABOUT VIOLENCE AT MY

  • RALLIES AND SHE CAUSED THE

  • VIOLENCE.

  • IT'S ON TAPE.

  • THE OTHER THINGS ARE FALSE.

  • BUT HONESTLY, I'D LOVE TO TALK

  • ABOUT GETTING RID OF ISIS AND

  • I'D LOVE TO TALK ABOUT OTHER

  • THINGS.

  • THOSE OTHER CHARGERS, AS SHE

  • KNOWS, THEY'RE FALSE.

  • CHRIS: IN THIS BUCHTER ABOUT

  • FITNESS TO BE PRESIDENT,

  • THERE'S -- BUCKET ABOUT FITNESS

  • TO BE PRESIDENT, THERE'S BEEN A

  • LOT OF DEVELOPMENTS OVER THE

  • LAST 10 DAYS, SINCE THE LAST

  • DEBATE, I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU

  • ABOUT THEM.

  • THESE ARE QUESTIONS THAT THE

  • AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE.

  • SECRETARY CLINTON, DURING YOUR

  • 2009 SENATE CONFIRMATION

  • HEARING, YOU PROMISED TO AVOID

  • EVEN THE APPEARANCE OF A

  • CONFLICT OF INTEREST WITH YOUR

  • DEALING WITH THE CLINTON

  • SHOW DONORS GOT YOU WEREBUT E-S

  • SPECIAL ACCESS TO YOU.

  • THOSE SEEKING GRANTS FOR HAITI

  • RELIEF WERE CONSIDERED

  • SEPARATELY FROM NON-DONORS, AND

  • SOME OF THOSE DONORS GOT

  • GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS, TAXPAYER

  • MONEY.

  • CAN YOU REALLY SAY YOU HAVE KEPT

  • YOUR PLEDGE TO THAT SENATE

  • COMMITTEE, AND WHY ISN'T WHAT

  • HAPPENED, WHAT WENT ON BETWEEN

  • YOU AND THE CLINTON FOUNDATION,

  • WHY ISN'T THAT WHAT MR. TRUMP

  • CALLS PAY TO PLAY?

  • MRS. CLINTON: EVERYTHING I DID

  • AS SECRETARY OF STATE WAS IN

  • FURTHERANCE OF OUR COUNTRY'S

  • INTERESTS AND OUR VALUES.

  • THE STATE DEPARTMENT HAS SAID

  • THAT.

  • I THINK THAT HAS BEEN PROVEN.

  • BUT I AM HAPPY IN FACT I AM

  • THRILLED TO TALK ABOUT THE

  • CLINTON FOUNDATION, BECAUSE IT

  • IS A WORLD-RENOWNED CHARITY, AND

  • I'M SO PROUD OF THE WORK THAT IT

  • DOES.

  • I COULD TALK FOR THE REST OF THE

  • DEBATE.

  • I KNOW I DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO

  • DO THAT.

  • BUT JUST BRIEFLY, THE CLINTON

  • FOUNDATION MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR

  • 11 MILLION PEOPLE AROUND THE

  • WORLD WITH HIV-AIDS TO AFFORD

  • TREATMENT.

  • THAT IS ABOUT HALF OF ALL THE

  • PEOPLE IN THE WORLD WHO ARE

  • GETTING TREATMENT.

  • IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE AMERICAN

  • HEALTH ASSOCIATION, WE HAVE MADE

  • ENVIRONMENTS IN SCHOOLS

  • HEALTHIER.

  • CHRIS: SECRETARY CLINTON,

  • RESPECTFULLY, THIS IS AN OPEN

  • DISCUSSION.

  • MRS. CLINTON: IT IS AN OPEN

  • DISCUSSION.

  • CHRIS: THE QUESTION, DO YOU WANT

  • TO TALK ABOUT IT --

  • MRS. CLINTON: THERE IS NO

  • EVIDENCE --

  • MR. TRUMP: IT HAS BEEN VERY WELL

  • STUDIED.

  • IT IS A CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE.

  • IT IS A CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE.

  • SAUDI ARABIAQ GIVING $25

  • BILLION.

  • ATAR, ALL OF THESE COUNTRIES.

  • YOU TALK ABOUT WOMEN, WOMEN'S

  • RIGHTS.

  • THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO PUSH GAYS

  • OFF OF BUILDINGS.

  • THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO KILL WOMEN

  • AND TREAT WOMEN HORRIBLY, AND

  • YET YOU TAKE THEIR MONEY.

  • SO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU RIGHT

  • NOW, WHY DON'T YOU GIVE BACK THE

  • MONEY THAT YOU HAVE TAKEN FROM

  • CERTAIN COUNTRIES THAT TREAT

  • CERTAIN GROUPS OF PEOPLE SO

  • HORRIBLY?

  • WHY DON'T YOU GIVE BACK THE

  • MONEY?

  • I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT

  • GESTURE, BECAUSE SHE TAKES A

  • TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY, AND

  • YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE PEOPLE OF

  • HAITI.

  • OTHERIN LITTLE HAITI THE

  • DAY IN FLORIDA, AND I WANT TO

  • TELL YOU, THEY HATE THE

  • CLINTONS, BECAUSE WHAT HAS

  • HAPPENED IN HAITI WITH THE

  • CLINTON FOUNDATION IS A

  • DISGRACE.

  • YOU KNOW IT, THEY KNOW IT, AND

  • EVERYBODY KNOWS IT.

  • MRS. CLINTON: VERY QUICKLY, WE

  • AT THE CLINTON FOUNDATION SPEND

  • 90%, 90% OF ALL THE MONEY THAT

  • IS DONATED ON BEHALF OF PROGRAMS

  • FOR PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD AND

  • IN OUR OWN COUNTRY.

  • I AM VERY PROUD OF THAT.

  • WE HAVE THE HIGHEST RATING FROM

  • THE WATCHDOGS THAT FOLLOW

  • FOUNDATIONS.

  • I WOULD BE HAPPY TO COMPARE WHAT

  • WE DO WITH THE TRUMP FOUNDATION,

  • WHICH TOOK MONEY FROM OTHER

  • PEOPLE AND BOUGHT A SIX FOOT

  • PORTRAIT OF DONALD.

  • I MEAN, WHO DOES THAT?

  • IT JUST WAS ASTONISHING.

  • WHEN IT COMES TO HAITI, HAITI IS

  • THE POOREST COUNTRY IN OUR

  • HEMISPHERE.

  • THE EARTHQUAKE, THE HURRICANES

  • HAVE DEVASTATED HAITI.

  • BILL AND I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN

  • TRYING TO HELP HAITI FOR MANY

  • YEARS.

  • THE CLINTON FOUNDATION RAISED

  • $30 MILLION TO HELP HAITI AFTER

  • THE CATASTROPHIC EARTHQUAKE, AND

  • ALL OF THE TERRIBLE PROBLEMS OF

  • PEOPLE THERE HAD.

  • WE HAVE DONE THINGS TO HELP

  • SMALL BUSINESSES, AGRICULTURE,

  • AND SO MUCH ELSE, AND WE ARE

  • GOING TO KEEP WORKING TO HELP

  • HAITI, BECAUSE IT IS AN

  • IMPORTANT PART OF THE AMERICAN

  • --

  • MR. TRUMP: I WOULD LIKE TO

  • MENTION ONE THING.

  • THE TRUMP FOUNDATION, PEOPLE

  • CONTRIBUTE, I CONTRIBUTE, AND

  • THE MONEY GOES 100%, 100% GOES

  • TO DIFFERENT CHARITIES,

  • INCLUDING A LOT OF MILITARY.

  • I DON'T GET ANYTHING.

  • I DON'T BUY BOATS, I DON'T BUY

  • PLANES.

  • CHRIS: WASN'T SOME OF THE MONEY

  • USED TO SELL YOUR LAWSUIT?

  • MR. TRUMP: WE'VE PUT UP THE

  • AMERICAN FLAG.

  • THAT'S IT.

  • WE FOUGHT FOR THE RIGHT IN PALM

  • BEACH TO PUT UP THE AMERICAN

  • FLAG.

  • CHRIS: THERE WAS A PENALTY

  • IMPOSED BY PALM BEACH COUNTY,

  • PAID OUT BY YOUR FOUNDATION.

  • MR. TRUMP: THE MONEY WENT TO

  • FISHER HOUSE, WHERE THEY BUILD

  • HOUSES.

  • THE MONEY YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT

  • WENT TO FISHER HOUSE, WHERE THEY

  • DON'T HOUSES FOR VETERANS AND

  • DISABLED --

  • MRS. CLINTON: OF COURSE, THERE

  • IS NO WAY WHETHER WE CAN KNOW IF

  • ANY OF THAT IS TRUE, BECAUSE HE

  • HAS NOT RELEASED HIS TAX

  • RETURNS.

  • HE IS THE FIRST CANDIDATE TO

  • EVER RUN FOR PRESIDENT IN THE

  • LAST 40 PLUS YEARS WHO HAS NOT

  • RELEASED HIS TAX RETURNS, SO

  • EVERYTHING HE SAYS ABOUT CHARITY

  • OR ANYTHING ELSE, WE CAN'T PROVE

  • IT.

  • YOU CAN LOOK AT OUR TAX RETURNS.

  • WE HAVE DONE ALL OUT -- WE HAVE

  • ALL THEM OUT THERE.

  • WHAT IS REALLY TROUBLING, WE

  • LEARNED IN THE LAST DEBATE, HE

  • HAS NOT PAID A PENNY IN FEDERAL

  • INCOME TAX.

  • WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IMMIGRANTS

  • A FEW MINUTES AGO, CHRIS.

  • , YOU KNOW HALF OF ALL

  • IMMIGRANTS, UNDOCUMENTED

  • IMMIGRANTS IN OUR COUNTRY

  • ACTUALLY PAY FEDERAL INCOME TAX.

  • IMMIGRANTSOCUMENTED

  • IN AMERICA WHO ARE PAYING MORE

  • FEDERAL INCOME TAX THAN A

  • BILLIONAIRE.

  • I FIND THAT ASTONISHING.

  • MR. TRUMP: WE ARE ENTITLED

  • BECAUSE OF THE LAWS THAT PEOPLE

  • LIKE HER PASSED TO TAKE

  • MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF DEPRECIATION

  • AND OTHER CHARGES, AND WE DO IT.

  • JUST ABOUT ALL OF HER DONORS,

  • HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS

  • ON GEORGE SOROS, LET ME JUST

  • EXPLAIN, ALL OF HER DONORS, MOST

  • OF HER DONORS -- YOU KNOW WHAT

  • SHE SHOULD HAVE DONE?

  • YOU KNOW WHAT YOU SHOULD HAVE

  • DONE?

  • YOU SHOULD HAVE CHANGED THE LAW

  • WHEN YOU WERE A UNITED STATES

  • SENATOR, BECAUSE YOUR DONORS,

  • YOUR SPECIAL INTERESTS ARE DOING

  • THE SAME THING AS I DO, EXCEPT

  • EVEN MORE SO.

  • YOU SHOULD HAVE CHANGED THE LAW,

  • BUT YOU WILL NOT CHANGE THE LAW,

  • BECAUSE YOU TAKE IN SO MUCH

  • MONEY.

  • I SAT IN MY APARTMENT TODAY, ON

  • A VERY -- IN A VERY BEAUTIFUL

  • HOTEL DOWN THE STREET.

  • MRS. CLINTON: BUILT WITH CHINESE

  • STEEL.

  • MR. TRUMP: I SAT THERE WATCHING

  • PAID FOR BY ALL

  • YOUR FRIENDS ON WALL STREET WHO

  • SPENT SO MUCH MONEY BECAUSE THEY

  • KNOW YOU WILL PROTECT THEM.

  • IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT I DID,

  • YOU SHOULD HAVE CHANGED THE LAW.

  • CHRIS: I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT

  • ONE LAST QUESTION IN THIS TOPIC.

  • YOU HAVE BEEN WARNING AT RALLIES

  • RECENTLY THAT THIS ELECTION IS

  • CLINTONAND THAT HILLARY

  • IS IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO

  • STEAL IT FROM YOU.

  • YOUR RUNNING MATE, GOVERNOR

  • PENCE, PLEDGED ON SUNDAY

  • THAT HE AND YOU WILL, HIS WORDS,

  • ABSOLUTELY ACCEPT THE RESULT OF

  • THIS ELECTION.

  • TODAY YOUR DAUGHTER IVANKA.

  • SAID THE SAME THING I WANT TO

  • ASK YOU, DO YOU MAKE THE SAME

  • COMMITMENT, SIR, THAT YOU WILL

  • ABSOLUTELY ACCEPT THE RESULT OF

  • THIS ELECTION?

  • MR. TRUMP: I WILL LOOK AT IT AT

  • THE TIME.

  • I'M NOT LOOKING AT ANYTHING NOW.

  • I WILL LOOK AT IT AT THE TIME.

  • WHAT I HAVE SEEN IS SO BAD.

  • FIRST OF ALL, THE MEDIA IS SO

  • CORRUPT, AND SO

  • THE PILE ON IS SO AMAZING THE

  • "NEW YORK TIMES" ACTUALLY WROTE

  • AN ARTICLE ABOUT IT.

  • IT IS SO DISHONEST, AND THE

  • POISON THE MINDS OF THE VOTERS.

  • FOR THEM I THINK

  • THE VOTERS WILL SEE THROUGH IT.

  • I THINK THEY WILL SEE THROUGH

  • IT.

  • CHRIS: BUT SIR --

  • MR. TRUMP: EXCUSE ME, CHRIS.

  • IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR VOTER ROLLS,

  • YOU WILL SEE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE

  • WHO ARE REGISTERED TO VOTE, THIS

  • IS NOT COMING FROM ME, THIS IS

  • COMING FROM OTHER PLACES,

  • MILLIONS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE

  • REGISTERED TO VOTE THAT SHOULD

  • NOT BE REGISTERED TO VOTE.

  • SO, LET ME JUST GIVE YOU ONE

  • OTHER THING.

  • I TALK ABOUT THE CORRUPT MEDIA.

  • I TALK ABOUT THE MILLIONS OF

  • PEOPLE.

  • TELL YOU ONE OTHER THING.

  • SHE SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO

  • RUN.

  • IT IS CROOKED.

  • SHE IS GUILTY OF A VERY, VERY

  • SERIOUS CRIME.

  • SHE SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO

  • RUN, AND JUST IN THAT RESPECT, I

  • SAY IT IS RIGGED, BECAUSE SHE

  • SHOULD NEVER, CHRIS, SHE SHOULD

  • NEVER HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO RUN

  • FOR THE PRESIDENCY BASED ON WHAT

  • SHE DID WITH E-MAILS AND SO MANY

  • OTHER THINGS.

  • CHRIS: FETZER, THERE IS A TRIP

  • -- BUT SIR, THERE IS A TRADITION

  • IN THIS COUNTRY THE PEACEFUL

  • TRANSITION OF POWER, AND THE

  • MATTER HOW HARD FOUGHT A

  • CAMPAIGN IS, AT THE END OF THE

  • CAMPAIGN, THE LOSER CONCEDES TO

  • THE WINNER.

  • NOT SAYING YOU ARE NECESSARILY

  • GOING TO BE THE LOSER OR THE

  • WINTER, BUT THAT THE LOSER

  • CONCEDES TO THE WINNER AND THE

  • COUNTRY COMES TOGETHER, IN PART

  • FOR THE GOOD OF THE COUNTRY.

  • ARE YOU ARE SAYING YOU ARE NOT

  • PREPARED NOW --

  • MR. TRUMP: WHAT I AM SAYING, I

  • WILL TELL YOU AT THE TIME.

  • I WILL KEEP YOU IN SUSPENSE.

  • MRS. CLINTON: LET ME RESPOND TO

  • THAT.

  • BECAUSE THAT IS HORRIFYING.

  • EVERY TIME DONALD THINKS THINGS

  • ARE NOT GOING IN HIS DIRECTION,

  • HE CLAIMS WHATEVER IT IS, IT IS

  • RIGGED AGAINST HIM.

  • THE FBI CONDUCTED A YEAR-LONG

  • INVESTIGATION INTO MY E-MAILS

  • THAT CONCLUDED THERE WAS NO

  • CASE.

  • HE SAID THE FBI WAS RIGGED.

  • HE LOST THE IOWA CAUCUS, HE LOST

  • THE WISCONSIN PRIMARY, HE SAID

  • THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARIES WERE

  • RIGGED AGAINST HIM.

  • THEN TRUMP UNIVERSITY GET SUED

  • FOR FRAUD AND RACKETEERING.

  • HE CLAIMS THE COURT SYSTEM AND

  • THE FEDERAL JUDGE IS RIGGED

  • AGAINST HIM.

  • THERE WAS EVEN A TIME WHEN HE

  • DIDN'T GET AN EMMY FOR HIS TV

  • PROGRAM THREE YEARS IN A ROW,

  • AND HE STARTED TWEETING THAT THE

  • EMMYS WERE RIGGED MR. TRUMP: I

  • SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN IT.

  • [LAUGHTER]

  • MRS. CLINTON: THIS IS HOW DONALD

  • TRUMP THINKS.

  • IT IS FUNNY, BUT IT IS ALSO

  • REALLY TROUBLING.

  • THIS IS NOT HOW OUR DEMOCRACY

  • WORKS.

  • WE HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR 240

  • YEARS.

  • WE HAVE HAD FREE AND FAIR

  • ELECTIONS.

  • WE HAVE ACCEPTED THE OUTCOMES

  • WHEN WE MAY NOT HAVE LIKED THEM,

  • AND THAT IS WHAT MUST BE

  • EXPECTED OF ANYONE STANDING ON A

  • DEBATE STAGE DURING A GENERAL

  • ELECTION.

  • PRESIDENT OBAMA SAID THE OTHER

  • DAY, WHEN YOU ARE WHINING ABOUT

  • -- BEFORE IT IS EVEN FINISHED,

  • IT JUST SHOWS YOU ARE NOT UP TO

  • DOING THE JOB.

  • LET'S BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT HE IS

  • SAYING AND WHAT THAT MEANS.

  • HE IS DENIGRATING HE IS TALKING

  • DOWN OUR DEMOCRACY, AND I FOR 1

  • AM APPALLED AT SOMEBODY WHO IS

  • THE NOMINEE OF ONE OF OUR TWO

  • MAJOR PARTIES WOULD TAKE THAT

  • KIND OF POSITION.

  • MR. TRUMP: I THINK WHAT THE FBI

  • DID AND WHAT THE DEPARTMENT OF

  • JUSTICE STATE, INCLUDING MEETING

  • WITH HER HUSBAND, THE ATTORNEY

  • GENERAL, IN THE BACK OF AN

  • AIRPLANE ON THE TARMAC IN

  • ARIZONA, I THINK THAT'S

  • DISGRACEFUL.

  • I THINK IT'S A DISGRACE.

  • I THINK WE HAVE NEVER HAD A

  • SITUATION --

  • [APPLAUSE]

  • CHRIS: HOLD ON, FOLKS.

  • LET'S PLEASE CONTINUE THE

  • DEBATE, AND LET'S MOVE ON TO THE

  • SUBJECT OF FOREIGN HOTSPOTS.

  • THE IRAQI OFFENSIVE TO TAKE BACK

  • MOSUL HAS BEGUN.

  • IF THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL IN

  • PUSHING ISIS OUT OF THAT CITY

  • AND OUT OF ALL OF IRAQ, THE

  • QUESTION THEN BECOMES, WHAT

  • HAPPENS THE DAY AFTER?

  • AND THAT IS SOMETHING WHICH

  • WHICHEVER, WHOEVER OF VIEW ENDS

  • UP AS PRESIDENT WILL HAVE TO

  • CONFRONT.

  • WILL YOU PUT U.S. TROOPS INTO

  • THAT VACUUM TO MAKE SURE THAT

  • ISIS DOESN'T COME BACK OR IS NOT

  • REPLACED BY SOMETHING EVEN

  • WORSE?

  • SECRETARY CLINTON, YOU GO FIRST.

  • YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES.

  • MRS. CLINTON: WELL, I AM

  • ENCOURAGED THAT THERE IS AN

  • EFFORT LED BY THE IRAQ HE ARMY,

  • SUPPORTED BY -- IRAQI ARMY,

  • SUPPORTED BY KURDISH FORCES, AND

  • ALSO, GIVEN THE HELP AND ADVICE

  • FROM THE NUMBER OF SPECIAL

  • FORCES AND OTHER AMERICANS ON

  • THE GROUND, BUT I WILL NOT

  • SUPPORT PUTTING AMERICAN

  • SOLDIERS INTO IRAQ AS AN

  • OCCUPYING FORCE.

  • I DON'T THINK THAT IS IN OUR

  • INTEREST, AND I DON'T THINK THAT

  • WOULD BE SMART TO DO.

  • IN FACT, CHRIS, I THINK THAT

  • WOULD BE A BIG RED FLAG WAVING

  • FOR ISIS TO RECONSTITUTE ITSELF.

  • THE GOAL HERE IS TO TAKE BACK

  • MOSUL.

  • IT WILL BE A HARD FIGHT.

  • I HAVE NO ILLUSIONS ABOUT THAT.

  • AND THEN CONTINUED TO PRESS INTO

  • SYRIA, TO BEGIN TO TAKE BACK AND

  • MOVE ON RAQQA, WHICH IS THE ISIS

  • HEADQUARTERS.

  • I AM HOPEFUL THAT THE HARD WORK

  • THAT AMERICAN MILITARY ADVISERS

  • HAVE DONE WILL PAY OFF, AND THAT

  • WE WILL SEE A REALLY SUCCESSFUL

  • MILITARY OPERATION.

  • BUT WE KNOW WE HAVE LOTS OF WORK

  • TO DO.

  • SYRIA WILL REMAIN A HOTBED OF

  • TERRORISM AS LONG AS THE CIVIL

  • WAR, AIDED AND ABETTED BY THE

  • IRANIANS AND RUSSIANS,

  • CONTINUES.

  • I HAVE SAID, WE NEED TO KEEP OUR

  • ON ISIS -- EYE ON ISIS.

  • THAT'S WHY I WANT TO HAVE AN

  • INTELLIGENCE SURGE AT HOME.

  • WHY WE HAVE TO GO AFTER THEM ON

  • THE GROUND, IN THE AIR,

  • ONLINE.

  • WHY WE DON'T WANT TO LET

  • TERRORISTS BY WEAPONS.

  • IF YOU ARE TOO DANGEROUS TO FLY,

  • YOU ARE TOO DANGEROUS TO BUY A

  • GUN.

  • I WILL CONTINUE TO PUSH FOR A

  • NO-FLY ZONE AND SAFE HAVENS

  • WITHIN SYRIA, NOT ONLY TO HELP

  • PROTECT THE SYRIANS AND PREVENT

  • THE CONSTANT OUTFLOW OF

  • REFUGEES, BUT TO FRANKLY GAIN

  • LEVERAGE ON BOTH THE SYRIAN

  • GOVERNMENT AND THE RUSSIANS SO

  • THAT PERHAPS WE CAN HAVE THE

  • KIND OF SERIOUS NEGOTIATION

  • NECESSARY TO BRING THE CONFLICT

  • TO AN END AND GO FORWARD ON A

  • POLITICAL TRACK.

  • CHRIS: MR. TRUMP, SAME QUESTION.

  • IF WE ARE ABLE TO PUSH ISIS OUT

  • WOULDUL AND OUT OF IRAQ,

  • YOU BE WILLING TO PUT U.S.

  • TROOPS IN THERE TO PREVENT THEIR

  • RETURN, OR SOMETHING ELSE?

  • MR. TRUMP: LET ME TELL YOU,

  • MOSUL IS SO SAD.

  • WE HAD MOSUL, BUT WHEN SHE LEFT,

  • WHEN SHE TOOK EVERYBODY OUT, WE

  • LOST MOSUL AND NOW WE'RE

  • FIGHTING AGAIN FOR MOSUL.

  • THEY WANTED TO GET THE LEADERS

  • OF ISIS, WHO THEY FELT WERE IN

  • MOSUL.

  • THREE MONTHS AGO, I STARTED

  • READING THEY WANT TO GET THE

  • LEADERS, AND THEY ARE GOING TO

  • ATTACK MOSUL.

  • WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE ELEMENT

  • OF SURPRISE, OK?

  • WE ANNOUNCE WE ARE GOING AFTER

  • MOSUL.

  • I HAVE BEEN READING ABOUT GOING

  • AFTER MOSUL FOR THREE MONTHS.

  • THESE PEOPLE HAVE ALL LEFT.

  • THE ELEMENT OF SURPRISE, DOUGLAS

  • MACARTHUR, GEORGE PATTON,

  • SPINNING IN THEIR GRAVES WHEN

  • THEY SEE THE STUPIDITY OF OUR

  • COUNTRY.

  • SO WE ARE NOW FIGHTING FOR MOSUL

  • .

  • ALL SHE HAD TO DO WAS STAY THERE

  • .

  • NOW WE ARE GOING AGAIN.

  • YOU KNOW WHO THE BIG WINNER IN

  • MOSUL WILL BE?

  • THE ONLY REASON THEY DID IT IS

  • BECAUSE SHE'S RUNNING FOR THE

  • OFFICE OF PRESIDENT AND THEY

  • WANT TO LOOK TOUGH.

  • THEY WANT TO LOOK GOOD.

  • HE VIOLATED THE RED LINE IN THE

  • SAND, AND HE MADE SO MANY

  • MISTAKES, MADE ALL THE MISTAKES.

  • THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE GREAT

  • MIGRATION.

  • BUT SHE WANTED TO LOOK GOOD FOR

  • THE ELECTION, SO THEY ARE GOING

  • IN.

  • WE WILL TAKE MOSUL EVENTUALLY.

  • BY THE WAY, IF YOU LOOK AT

  • WHAT'S HAPPENING, MUCH TOUGHER

  • THAN THEY THOUGHT, MUCH MORE

  • DANGEROUS, GOING TO BE MORE

  • DEATHS THAN THEY THOUGHT.

  • BUT THE LEADERS WE WANTED TO GET

  • ARE ALL GONE.

  • BECAUSE THEY ARE SMART.

  • SO MOSUL IS GOING TO BE A

  • WONDERFUL THING, ANDIRAN -- AND

  • IRAN SHOULD WRITE US A LETTER OF

  • THANK YOU, JUST LIKE THE DEAL,

  • THE STUPIDEST DEAL OF ALL TIME,

  • THAT WILL GIVE IRAN ABSOLUTELY

  • NUCLEAR WEAPONS.

  • IRAN SHOULD WRITE ANOTHER LETTER

  • SAYING THANK YOU VERY MUCH,

  • BECAUSE IRAN, AS I SAID MANY

  • YEARS AGO, IRAN IS TAKING OVER

  • IRAQ, SOMETHING THEY HAVE WANTED

  • TO DO FOREVER, BUT WE HAVE MADE

  • IT SO EASY FOR THEM.

  • WE ARE GOING TO TAKE MOSUL, AND

  • YOU KNOW WHO WILL BE THE

  • BENEFICIARY?

  • IRAN.

  • THEY ARE OUTSMARTING -- YOU ARE

  • NOT THERE, YOU MIGHT BE INVOLVED

  • IN THAT DECISION, BUT YOU WERE

  • THERE WHEN YOU TOOK EVERYBODY

  • OUT OF MOSUL AND OUT OF IRAQ.

  • WE SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN IN IRAQ

  • -- BUT YOU DID VOTE FOR IT --

  • BUT ONCE WE WERE IN IRAQ, YOU

  • NEVER SHOULD HAVE LEFT.

  • THE POINT IS, THE WINNERS GOING

  • TO BE IRAN.

  • MRS. CLINTON: YOU KNOW, ONCE

  • AGAIN DONALD IS IMPLYING THAT HE

  • DIDN'T SUPPORT THE INVASION OF

  • IRAQ.

  • I SAID IT WAS A MISTAKE.

  • I SAID THAT YEARS AGO.

  • HE HAS CONSISTENTLY DENIED --

  • MR. TRUMP: RON.

  • MRS. CLINTON: WHAT IS A CLEAR

  • FACT THAT BEFORE THE INVASION HE

  • SUPPORTED IT.

  • I WANT EVERYBODY TO GOOGLE IT,

  • GOOGLE "DONALD TRUMP IRAQ," AND

  • YOU WILL SEE THE DOZENS OF

  • SOURCES WHICH VERIFY THAT HE WAS

  • FOR THE INVASION OF IRAQ.

  • MR. TRUMP: WRONG.

  • MRS. CLINTON: AND YOU CAN

  • ACTUALLY HEAR THE AUDIO OF HIM

  • SAYING THAT.

  • WHY DOES THAT MATTER?

  • IT MATTERS BECAUSE HE HAS NOT

  • TOLD THE TRUTH ABOUT THAT

  • POSITION.

  • I GUESS HE BELIEVES IT MAKES HIM

  • LOOK BETTER NOW TO CONTRAST WITH

  • ME, BECAUSE I DID VOTE FOR IT.

  • BUT WHAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT

  • HERE IS TO UNDERSTAND ALL THE

  • INTERPLAY.

  • MOSUL IS A SUNNI CITY.

  • MOSUL IS ON THE BORDER OF SYRIA.

  • YES WE DO NEED TO GO AFTER

  • BAGHDADI, JUST LIKE WE WENT

  • AFTER BIN LADEN WHILE YOU WERE

  • DOING "CELEBRITY APPRENTICE" AND

  • WE BROUGHT HIM TO JUSTICE.

  • WE NEED TO GO AFTER THE

  • LEADERSHIP, BUT WE NEED TO GET

  • RID OF THEM, GET RID OF THEIR

  • FIGHTERS, THEIR ESTIMATED

  • SEVERAL THOUSAND FIGHTERS IN

  • MOSUL, WHO HAVE BEEN DIGGING

  • UNDERGROUND, WHO HAVE BEEN

  • PREPARED.

  • IT IS GOING TO BE TOUGH

  • FIGHTING, BUT I THINK WE CAN

  • TAKE BACK MOSUL AND THEN MOVE

  • INTO SYRIA AND TAKE BACK RAQQA.

  • THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.

  • I'M JUST AMAZED THAT HE SEEMS TO

  • THINK THAT THE IRAQI GOVERNMENT

  • AND OUR ALLIES AND EVERYBODY

  • ELSE LAUNCHED THE ATTACK ON

  • MOSUL TO HELP ME IN THIS

  • ELECTION.

  • BUT THAT'S HOW DONALD THINKS.

  • HE'S ALWAYS LOOKING FOR

  • SOMETHING.

  • MR. TRUMP: WE DON'T GAIN

  • ANYTHING.

  • IRAN IS TAKING OVER IRAQ.

  • CHRIS: SECRETARY CLINTON --

  • SECRETARY CLINTON, IT IS AN OPEN

  • DISCUSSION, BUT --

  • I'M SORRY, PLEASE LET MR. TRUMP

  • SPEAK.

  • MRS. CLINTON: HE PROVES IT EVERY

  • TIME HE TALKS.

  • MR. TRUMP: WIKILEAKS ACTION JUST

  • CAME OUT.

  • JOHN PODESTA SAID SOME HORRIBLE

  • THINGS ABOUT YOU, AND BOY WAS HE

  • RIGHT.

  • HE SAID SOME BEAUTIES.

  • YOU KNOW, BERNIE SANDERS SAID

  • YOU HAVE BAD JUDGMENT.

  • YOU DO.

  • AND IF YOU THINK THAT GOING INTO

  • MOSUL AFTER WE LET THE WORLD

  • KNOW WE ARE GOING IN, AND ALL

  • THE PEOPLE WE REALLY WANTED, THE

  • LEADERS, THEY ARE ALL GONE, IF

  • YOU THINK THAT WAS GOOD, THEN

  • YOU DO.

  • JOHN PODESTA IT SAID YOU HAD

  • TERRIBLE INSTINCTS.

  • BERNIE SANDERS SAID YOU HAD BAD

  • JUDGMENT.

  • I AGREE WITH BOTH.

  • MRS. CLINTON: YOU SHOULD ASK

  • BERNIE SANDERS WHO HE IS

  • SUPPORTING FOR PRESIDENT, WHO

  • HAS CAMPAIGNED FOR ME AROUND THE

  • COUNTRY.

  • YOU ARE THE MOST DANGEROUS

  • PERSON TO EVER RUN FOR PRESIDENT

  • IN THE MODERN HISTORY OF

  • AMERICA.

  • I THINK HE IS RIGHT.

  • CHRIS: LET'S TURN TO ALEPPO.

  • MR. TRUMP, IN THE LAST DEBATE

  • YOU WERE BOTH ASKED ABOUT THE

  • SITUATION IN THE SYRIAN CITY OF

  • ALEPPO.

  • I WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT,

  • BECAUSE YOU SAID SEVERAL THINGS

  • IN THAT DEBATE WHICH WERE NOT

  • TRUE, SIR.

  • YOU SAID THAT ALEPPO HAS

  • BASICALLY FALLEN.

  • IN FACT, THERE ARE --

  • MR. TRUMP: IT IS A CATASTROPHE.

  • HAVE YOU SEEN IT?

  • HAVE YOU SEEN AT?

  • HAVE YOU SEEN WHAT'S HAPPENED TO

  • ALEPPO?

  • CHRIS: IF I MIGHT FINISH MY

  • QUESTION.

  • MR. TRUMP: SO IT HASN'T FALLEN.

  • TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

  • CHRIS: THERE'S A QUARTER OF A

  • MILLION PEOPLE STILL LIVING

  • THERE AND BEING SLAUGHTERED.

  • MR. TRUMP: THEY ARE BEING

  • SLAUGHTERED, BECAUSE OF BAD

  • DECISIONS.

  • CHRIS: IF I MAY JUST FINISH

  • HERE.

  • YOU SAID ISIS, SYRIA, AND RUSSIA

  • ARE BUSY FIGHTING ISIS.

  • IN FACT, THEY HAVE BEEN THE ONES

  • BOMBING AND SHELLING EASTERN

  • ALEPPO, AND THEY JUST ANNOUNCED

  • A HUMANITARIAN PAUSE, ADMITTING

  • THEY HAVE BEEN BOMBING AND

  • SHELLING ALEPPO.

  • WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLEAR THAT UP?

  • MR. TRUMP: ALEPPO IS A DISASTER.

  • IT IS A HUMANITARIAN NIGHTMARE.

  • BUT IT HAS FALLEN, FROM ANY

  • STANDPOINT.

  • WHAT DO YOU NEED, A SIGNED

  • DOCUMENT?

  • TAKE A LOOK AT ALEPPO.

  • IT IS SO SAD WHEN YOU SEE WHAT

  • HAS HAPPENED.

  • AND A LOT OF THIS IS BECAUSE OF

  • HILLARY CLINTON.

  • BECAUSE WHAT HAS HAPPENED, BY

  • FIGHTING ASSAD, WHO TURNED OUT

  • TO BE A LOT TOUGHER THAN SHE

  • --UGHT, AND NOW SHE WILL SAY

  • HE'S JUST MUCH TOUGHER AND MUCH

  • SMARTER THAN HER AND OBAMA.

  • AND EVERYONE THOUGHT HE WAS GONE

  • TWO YEARS AGO, THREE YEARS AGO.

  • HE ALIGNED WITH RUSSIA.

  • HE NOW ALSO ALIGNED WITH IRAN,

  • WHO WE MADE VERY POWERFUL.

  • GAVE THEM $150 BILLION BACK.

  • WE GIVE THEM $1.7 BILLION IN

  • CASH, I MEAN CASH, BUNDLES OF

  • CASH AS BIG AS THIS STAGE.

  • WE GIVE THEM $1.7 BILLION.

  • NOW HE HAS ALIGNED WITH RUSSIA

  • AND WITH IRAN.

  • THEY DON'T WANT ISIS.

  • BUT THEY HAVE OTHER THINGS.

  • BECAUSE WE ARE BACKING, WE ARE

  • BACKING REBELS.

  • WE DON'T KNOW WHO THE REBELS

  • ARE.

  • WE ARE GIVING THEM LOTS OF

  • MONEY, LOTS OF EVERYTHING.

  • WE DON'T KNOW WHO THE REBELS

  • ARE.

  • NOTWHEN AND IF, AND IT'S

  • GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE YOU HAVE

  • RUSSIA AND IRAN, BUT IF THEY

  • EVER DID OVERTHROW ASSAD, YOU

  • MIGHT END UP WITH AS BAD AS

  • ASSAD, BUT YOU MAY VERY WELL AND

  • UP WITH WORSE THAN ASSAD.

  • IF SHE DID NOTHING, WE WOULD BE

  • IN MUCH BETTER SHAPE.

  • AND THIS IS WHAT HAS CAUSED THE

  • GREAT MIGRATION, WHERE SHE'S

  • TAKING IN TENS OF THOUSANDS OF

  • SYRIAN REFUGEES, WHO PROBABLY,

  • IN MANY CASES, NOT PROBABLY, WHO

  • DEFINITELY IN MANY CASES ARE

  • ISIS-ALIGNED, AND WE NOW HAVE

  • THEM IN OUR COUNTRY.

  • WAIT UNTIL YOU SEE -- THIS WILL

  • BE THE GREAT TROJAN HORSE.

  • WAIT UNTIL YOU SEE WHAT HAPPENS

  • IN THE COMING YEARS.

  • LOTS OF LUCK, HILLARY.

  • THANKS A LOT FOR DOING A GREAT

  • JOB.

  • CHRIS: SECRETARY CLINTON, YOU

  • HAVE TALKED ABOUT, IN THE LAST

  • DEBATE AND AGAIN TODAY, YOU

  • WOULD IMPOSE A NO-FLY ZONE TO

  • TRY TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE OF

  • ALEPPO AND STOP THE KILLING

  • THERE.

  • PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS REFUSED TO

  • DO THAT, BECAUSE HE FEARS IT

  • WILL DRAW US DEEPER INTO THE

  • CONFLICT.

  • GENERAL JOSEPH DUNFORD, THE

  • CHAIRMAN OF THE JOINT CHIEFS OF

  • STAFF, SAYS THAT IF YOU IMPOSE A

  • NO-FLY ZONE, CHANCES ARE YOU

  • WILL GET INTO A WAR WITH SYRIA

  • AND RUSSIA.

  • SO THE QUESTION I HAVE, IF YOU

  • IMPOSE A NO-FLY ZONE, HOW DO YOU

  • RESPOND TO THEIR CONCERNS.

  • A NO-FLY IF YOU IMPOSE

  • ZONE AND A RUSSIAN PLANE

  • VIOLATES THAT, DOES PRESIDENT

  • PUTIN SHOULD THAT PLANE DOWN?

  • MRS. CLINTON: FIRST OF ALL, I

  • THINK A NO-FLY ZONE CAN SAVE

  • LIVES AND HASTENED THE END OF

  • THE CONFLICT.

  • I AM WELL AWARE OF THE REALLY

  • LEGITIMATE CONCERNS YOU HAVE

  • EXPRESSED FROM BOTH THE

  • PRESIDENT AND THE GENERAL.

  • THIS WOULD NOT BE DONE JUST ON

  • THE FIRST DAY.

  • THIS WOULD TAKE A LOT OF

  • NEGOTIATION.

  • IT WOULD ALSO TAKE MAKING IT

  • CLEAR TO THE RUSSIANS AND THE

  • SYRIANS THAT OUR PURPOSE HERE

  • WAS TO PROVIDE SAFE STONES ON

  • THE GROUND.

  • WE HAVE HAD MILLIONS OF PEOPLE

  • LEAVE SYRIA, AND THOSE MILLIONS

  • OF PEOPLE INSIDE SYRIA HAVE BEEN

  • DISLOCATED.

  • SO I THINK WE COULD STRIKE A

  • DEAL AND MAKE IT VERY CLEAR TO

  • THE RUSSIANS AND THE SYRIANS

  • THAT THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WE

  • BELIEVED WAS IN THE BEST

  • INTEREST OF THE PEOPLE ON THE

  • GROUND IN SYRIA.

  • IT WOULD HELP US WITH OUR FIGHT

  • AGAINST ISIS.

  • BUT I WANT TO RESPOND TO WHAT

  • DONALD SAID ABOUT REFUGEES.

  • HE HAS MADE THESE CLAIMS

  • REPEATEDLY.

  • I AM NOT GOING TO LET ANYONE

  • INTO THIS COUNTRY WHO IS NOT

  • VETTED, WHO WE DO NOT HAVE

  • CONFIDENCE IN.

  • BUT I AM NOT GOING TO SLAM THE

  • DOOR ON WOMEN AND CHILDREN.

  • THE PICTURE OF THAT LITTLE

  • FOUR-YEAR-OLD BOY IN ALEPPO WITH

  • THE BLOOD COMING DOWN HIS FACE

  • WHILE HE SAT IN AN AMBULANCE, IT

  • IS HAUNTING.

  • SO WE ARE GOING TO DO VERY

  • CAREFUL THOROUGH VETTING.

  • THAT DOES NOT SOLVE OUR INTERNAL

  • CHALLENGES WITH ISIS, AND OUR

  • NEED TO STOP RADICALIZATION, TO

  • WORK WITH AMERICAN MUSLIM

  • COMMUNITIES WHO ARE ON THE FRONT

  • LINES TO IDENTIFY AND PREVENT

  • ATTACKS.

  • KILLER OF THE

  • DOZENS OF PEOPLE AT THE

  • NIGHTCLUB IN ORLANDO, THE PULSE

  • NIGHTCLUB, WAS BORN IN QUEENS,

  • THE SAME PLACE DONALD WAS BORN.

  • SO LET'S BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THE

  • THREAT IS, AND HOW WE ARE BEST

  • GOING TO BE ABLE TO MEET IT.

  • AND YES, SOME OF THAT THREAT

  • EMANATES FROM OVER IN SYRIA AND

  • IRAQ, AND WE HAVE GOT TO KEEP

  • FIGHTING, AND I WILL DEFEAT

  • ISIS.

  • AND SOME OF IT IS WE HAVE TO UP

  • OUR GAME AND BE MUCH SMARTER

  • HERE.

  • CHRIS: I WANT TO GET INTO OUR

  • FINAL SEGMENT.

  • MR. TRUMP: I JUST HAVE TO -- IT

  • IS SO RIDICULOUS.

  • SHE WILL DEFEAT ISIS.

  • WE SHOULD HAVE NEVER LET ISIS

  • HAPPEN IN THE FIRST PLACE, AND

  • RIGHT NOW THEY ARE IN 32

  • COUNTRIES.

  • ONE SECOND.

  • THEY HAD A CEASE-FIRE THREE

  • WEEKS AGO.

  • A CEASE-FIRE, UNITED STATES,

  • RUSSIA, AND SYRIA.

  • DURING THE CEASE-FIRE, RUSSIA

  • CHES OFER VAST SWAT

  • LAND AND THEN SAID, WE DON'T

  • WANT THE CEASE-FIRE ANYMORE.

  • WE ARE SO AT PLAYED.

  • THEY ARE OUT PLAYING.

  • SHE WASN'T THERE, SO I ASSUME

  • SHE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT,

  • BUT OUR COUNTRY IS SO OUTPLAYE

  • ASSAD AND AND

  • IRAN.

  • NOBODY CAN BELIEVE HOW STUPID

  • ARE LEADERSHIP IS.

  • CHRIS: WE NEED TO MOVE ON TO OUR

  • FINAL SEGMENT.

  • THAT IS THE NATIONAL DEBT, WHICH

  • HAS NOT BEEN DISCUSSED UNTIL

  • TONIGHT.

  • OUR NATIONAL DEBT AS A SHARE OF

  • THE ECONOMY, OUR GDP, IS NOW

  • 77%.

  • THAT IS THE HIGHEST SINCE JUST

  • AFTER WORLD WAR II.

  • THE NONPARTISAN COMMITTEE FOR A

  • RESPONSIBLE FEDERAL BUDGET SAYS

  • SECRETARY CLINTON, UNDER YOUR

  • PLAN, DEBT WOULD RISE TO 86% OF

  • GDP OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS.

  • MR. TRUMP, UNDER YOUR PLAN THEY

  • SAY IT WOULD RISE TO 105% OF GDP

  • OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS.

  • QUESTION IS, WHY ARE BOTH OF YOU

  • IGNORING THIS PROBLEM?

  • MR. TRUMP, YOU GO FIRST.

  • MR. TRUMP: I WOULD SAY THEY ARE

  • WRONG, BECAUSE I'M GOING TO

  • CREATE TREMENDOUS JOBS.

  • WE ARE BRINGING GDP FROM REALLY

  • 1%, WHICH IS WHAT IT IS NOW, AND

  • IF SHE GOT AND IT WILL BE LESS

  • THAN ZERO, WE ARE BRINGING IT

  • FROM 1% UP TO 4%, AND I ACTUALLY

  • THINK WE CAN GO HIGHER THAN 4%.

  • I THINK YOU CAN GO TO 5% OR 6%.

  • IF WE DO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO

  • BOTHER ASKING YOUR QUESTION,

  • BECAUSE WE HAVE A TREMENDOUS

  • MACHINE.

  • WE WILL HAVE CREATED A

  • TREMENDOUS ECONOMIC MACHINE ONCE

  • AGAIN.

  • TO DO THAT, WE ARE TAKING BACK

  • JOBS.

  • WE ARE NOT GOING TO LET OUR

  • COMPANIES BE RAIDED BY OTHER

  • COUNTRIES WILL RELEASE ALL OUR

  • JOBS.

  • IT IS VERY SAD.

  • BUT I'M GOING TO CREATE THE KIND

  • OF THE COUNTRY THAT WE WERE FROM

  • THE STANDPOINT OF INDUSTRY.

  • WE USED TO BE THERE.

  • WE HAVE GIVEN IT UP.

  • WE HAVE BECOME VERY, VERY

  • SLOPPY.

  • WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE POLITICAL

  • HACKS MAKING THE BIGGEST DEALS

  • IN THE WORLD, BIGGER THAN

  • COMPANIES.

  • YOU TAKE THESE BIG COMPANIES.

  • THESE TRADE DEALS ARE FAR BIGGER

  • THAN THESE COMPANIES.

  • YET WE DON'T USE OUR GREAT

  • LEADERS, MANY OF WHOM BACK ME,

  • AND MANY OF WHOM BACK HILLARY,

  • BUT WE DON'T USE THESE PEOPLE.

  • THESE ARE THE GREATEST

  • NEGOTIATORS IN THE WORLD.

  • WE HAVE THE GREATEST BUSINESS

  • PEOPLE IN THE WORLD.

  • WE HAVE TO USE THEM TO NEGOTIATE

  • OUR TRADE DEALS.

  • WE USE POLITICAL HACKS.

  • WE USE PEOPLE THAT GOT A

  • POSITION BECAUSE THEY MADE A

  • CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTION, AND THEY

  • ARE DEALING WITH CHINA AND

  • PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY MUCH SMARTER

  • THAN THEY ARE.

  • SO WE HAVE TO USE OUR GREAT

  • PEOPLE.

  • BUT THAT BEING SAID, WE WILL

  • CREATE AN ECONOMIC MACHINE THE

  • LIKES OF WHICH WE HAVEN'T SEEN

  • IN MANY DECADES, AND PEOPLE,

  • CHRIS, WILL AGAIN GO BACK TO

  • WORK, AND THEY WILL MAKE A LOT

  • OF MONEY AND WE WILL HAVE

  • COMPANIES THAT WILL GROW, AND

  • EXPAND, AND START FROM NEW.

  • CHRIS: SECRETARY CLINTON?

  • MRS. CLINTON: FIRST, WHEN I HEAR

  • DONALD TALK LIKE THAT AND KNOW

  • THAT HIS SLOGAN IS "MAKE AMERICA

  • GREAT AGAIN," I WONDER WHEN HE

  • THOUGHT AMERICA WAS GREAT.

  • AND BEFORE HE RUSHES AND SAYS,

  • BEFORE YOU AND PRESIDENT OBAMA

  • WERE THERE, I THINK IT'S

  • IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT HE

  • HAS BEEN CRITICIZING OUR

  • GOVERNMENT FOR DECADES.

  • YOU KNOW, BACK IN 1987, HE TOOK

  • OUT A $100,000 AD IN THE "NEW

  • YORK TIMES" DURING THE TIME WHEN

  • PRESIDENT REAGAN WAS PRESIDENT

  • AND BASICALLY SAID EXACTLY WHAT

  • HE JUST SAID NOW, THAT WE WERE

  • THE LAUGHING STOCK OF THE WORLD.

  • HE WAS CRITICIZING PRESIDENT

  • REAGAN.

  • THIS IS THE WAY DONALD THINKS

  • ABOUT HIMSELF, PUTS HIMSELF INTO

  • THE MIDDLE AND SAYS, YOU KNOW, I

  • ALONE CAN FIX IT, AS HE SAID ON

  • THE CONVENTION STAGE.

  • BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE DEBT,

  • WHICH IS THE ISSUE YOU ASKED

  • ABOUT, CHRIS, I PAY FOR

  • EVERYTHING I AM PROPOSING.

  • I DO NOT ADD A PENNY TO THE

  • NATIONAL DEBT.

  • I TAKE THAT VERY SERIOUSLY,

  • BECAUSE I DO THINK IT'S ONE OF

  • THE ISSUES WE HAVE GOT TO COME

  • TO GRIPS WITH.

  • SO WHEN I TALK ABOUT HOW WE ARE

  • GOING TO PAY FOR EDUCATION, HOW

  • WE ARE GOING TO INVEST IN

  • INFRASTRUCTURE, HOW WE ARE GOING

  • TO GET THE COST OF PRODUCTION

  • DRUGS DOWN, AND A LOT OF THE

  • OTHER ISSUES PEOPLE TALK ABOUT

  • ALL THE TIME, I HAVE MADE IT

  • VERY CLEAR.

  • WE ARE GOING WHERE THE MONEY IS.

  • WE ARE GOING TO ASK THE WEALTHY

  • AND CORPORATIONS TO PAY THEIR

  • FAIR SHARE, AND THERE IS NO

  • EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER THAT THAT

  • WILL SLOW DOWN OR DIMINISH OUR

  • GROWTH.

  • IN FACT, I THINK JUST THE

  • OPPOSITE.

  • WE WILL HAVE WHAT ECONOMISTS

  • CALL MIDDLE-OUTGROWTH.

  • WE HAVE GOT TO GET BACK TO

  • REBUILDING THE MIDDLE CLASS.

  • THE FAMILY OF AMERICA, THAT'S

  • WHERE GROWTH WILL COME FROM.

  • THAT'S WHY I WANT TO INVEST IN

  • YOU.

  • I WANT TO INVEST IN YOUR FAMILY.

  • AND I THINK THAT'S THE SMARTEST

  • WAY TO GROW THE ECONOMY, TO MAKE

  • THE ECONOMY FAIRER, AND WE JUST

  • HAVE A BIG DISAGREEMENT ABOUT

  • THIS.

  • IT MAY BE BECAUSE OF OUR

  • EXPERIENCES.

  • HE STARTED OUT WITH HIS DAD AS A

  • MILLIONAIRE.

  • I STARTED OUT WITH MY DAD AS A

  • SMALL BUSINESSMAN.

  • IT IS A DIFFERENCE THAT AFFECTS

  • HOW WE SEE THE WORLD AND HOW WE

  • SEE THE ECONOMY.

  • MR. TRUMP: BUT I JUST RESPOND?

  • CHRIS:

  • MR. TRUMP: COULD I JUST

  • RESPOND?

  • THAT, WEREE WITH HIM ON

  • SHOULD BE MUCH TOUGHER.

  • FRANKLY, NOW WE'RE GOING TO DO

  • IT RIGHT.

  • THE ONE LAST AREA I WANT

  • TO GET INTO IN THIS DEBATE IS

  • ENTITLEMENT, 60% OF ALL FEDERAL

  • SPENDING.

  • THE COMMITTEE FOR RESPONSIBLE

  • LOOKED AT DGET HAS

  • BOTH OF YOUR PLANS AND SAY

  • NEITHER OF YOU HAS A SERIOUS

  • PLAN THAT IS GOING TO SOLVE THE

  • MEDICARE IS GOING TO

  • RUN OUT OF MONEY IN THE 2020S.

  • SOCIAL

  • -- THE EFFECT I WANT TO ASK YOU

  • IN THIS REGARD, MR. TRUMP, WOULD

  • MR. TRUMP MAKE A DEAL TO SAVE

  • MEDICARE AND SOCIAL SECURITY

  • INCLUDED BOTH TAX INCREASES

  • ENTITLEMENTS.

  • MR. TRUMP: WE'RE GOING TO GROW

  • RATE.ONOMY ON A RECORD

  • ONE THING WE HAVE TO DO, REPEAL

  • AND REPLACE THE DISASTER KNOWN

  • OBAMACARE.

  • IT'S DESTROYING OUR COUNTRY.

  • IT'S DESTROYING OUR BUSINESSES,

  • UR SMALL BUSINESS AND OUR BIG

  • BUSINESSES.

  • WE HAVE TO REPEAL AND REPLACE

  • OBAMACARE.

  • LOOK AT THE KIND OF

  • NUMBERS THAT THAT WILL COST US

  • 17.HE YEAR

  • IT IS A DISASTER.

  • IF WE DON'T REPEAL AND REPLACE.

  • OF PROBABLY GOING TO DIE

  • ITS OWN WEIGHT, BUT OBAMACARE

  • HAS TO GO.

  • 60, REMIUMS ARE GOING UP

  • 70, 80%.

  • NEXT YEAR, THEY'RE GOING TO GO

  • OVER 100%, AND I'M REALLY

  • GLAD THAT THE PREMIUMS HAVE

  • STARTED.

  • T LEAST THE PEOPLE SEE WHAT'S

  • HAPPENING BECAUSE SHE WANTS TO

  • KEEP OBAMACARE, AND SHE WANTS TO

  • MAKE IT EVEN WORSE, AND IT CAN'T

  • WORSE.

  • BAD HEALTHCARE AT THE MOST

  • EXPENSIVE PRICE.

  • E HAVE TO REPEAL AND REPLACE

  • OBAMACARE.

  • CHRIS: SECRETARY CLINTON, SAME

  • QUESTION, BECAUSE AT THIS POINT,

  • AND MEDICARE ARE

  • GOING TO RUN OUT.

  • THE TRUST FUNDS ARE GOING TO RUN

  • OUT OF MONEY.

  • WILL YOU AS PRESIDENT

  • ENTERTAIN -- WILL YOU CONSIDER A

  • RAND BARGAIN, A DEAL THAT

  • INCLUDES BOTH TAX INCREASES AND

  • CUTS TO TRY TO SAVE BOTH

  • PROGRAMS?

  • MRS. CLINTON: WELL, CHRIS, I AM

  • ON RECORD AS SAYING THAT WE NEED

  • SOCIAL ORE MONEY IN THE

  • SECURITY TRUST FUND.

  • THAT'S PART OF MY COMMITMENT TO

  • TAXES ON THE WEALTHY.

  • MY SOCIAL SECURITY PAYROLL

  • UP AS WILL WILL GO

  • DONALD'S -- ASSUMING HE CAN'T

  • FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET OUT OF IT.

  • BUT WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS

  • REPLENISH THE SOCIAL SECURITY

  • MAKING SURE THAT

  • WE HAVE SUFFICIENT RESOURCES,

  • AND THAT WILL COME FROM EITHER

  • CAP AND/OR FINDING

  • OTHER WAYS TO GET MORE MONEY

  • INTO IT.

  • BENEFITS.T CUT

  • I WANT TO ENHANCE BENEFITS FOR

  • WOMENCOME WORKERS AND FOR

  • WHO HAVE BEEN DISADVANTAGED BY

  • THE CURRENT SOCIAL SECURITY

  • SYSTEM.

  • WHAT DONALD IS PROPOSING

  • WITH THESE MASSIVE TAX CUTS WILL

  • A $20 TRILLION

  • ADDITIONAL NATIONAL DEBT.

  • CONSEQUENCESE DIRE

  • FOR SOCIAL SECURITY AND

  • MEDICARE.

  • AND I'LL TELL YOU SOMETHING

  • ABOUT THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT,

  • WANTS TO REPEAL.

  • THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT EXTENDED

  • MEDICARE CY OF THE

  • TRUST FUND, SO IF HE REPEALS IT,

  • MEDICARE PROBLEM GETS WORSE.

  • WHAT WE NEED ARE LONG-TERM

  • HEALTHCARE DRIVERS.

  • GET COSTS DOWN,

  • INCREASE VALUE, EMPHASIZE

  • WELLNESS.

  • FOR DOING THAT AND

  • I BELIEVE WE WILL GET

  • ENTITLEMENT SPENDING UNDER

  • RESOURCES AND RE

  • SMARTER DECISIONS.

  • TOIS: THIS IS THE FINAL TIME

  • YOUR DELIGHT PROBABLY THAT

  • IN LL BOTH BE ON THE STAGE

  • THIS CAMPAIGN.

  • I WOULD LIKE TO END IT ON A

  • POSITIVE NOTE.

  • CLOSING OT AGREED TO

  • STATEMENTS BUT IT MIGHT MAKE IT

  • MORE INTERESTING BECAUSE YOU

  • AVEN'T PREPARED CLOSING

  • STATEMENTS.

  • SO WE'RE GOING TO PUT UP A

  • AS THE FINAL CLOCK

  • QUESTION AND THE FINAL DEBATE TO

  • TELL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHY

  • THEY SHOULD ELECT YOU TO BE THE

  • PRESIDENT.

  • THIS IS ANOTHER NEW MINISEGMENT.

  • SECRETARY CLINTON, IT'S YOUR

  • GO FIRST.

  • MRS. CLINTON: I WOULD LIKE TO

  • SAY TO EVERYONE WATCHING TONIGHT

  • THAT I'M REACHING OUT TO ALL

  • DEMOCRATS,

  • REPUBLICANS AND INDEPENDENTS,

  • BECAUSE WE NEED EVERYBODY TO

  • COUNTRY WHAT IT

  • SHOULD BE, TO GROW THE ECONOMY,

  • O MAKE IT FAIRER, TO MAKE IT

  • WORK FOR EVERYONE.

  • WE NEED YOUR TALENTS, YOUR

  • COMMITMENT, YOUR

  • ENERGY, YOUR AMBITION.

  • I HAVE BEEN PRIVILEGED TO SEE

  • AND I SIDENCY UP CLOSE,

  • KNOW THE AWESOME RESPONSIBILITY

  • OF PROTECTING OUR COUNTRY AND

  • HE INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY OF

  • WORKING TO TRY TO MAKE LIFE

  • BETTER FOR ALL OF YOU.

  • THE CAUSE OF

  • CHILDREN AND FAMILIES REALLY MY

  • LIFE'S WORK.

  • WHAT MY MISSION WILL BE

  • IN THE PRESIDENCY.

  • I WILL STAND UP FOR FAMILIES

  • POWERFUL INTERESTS,

  • AGAINST CORPORATIONS.

  • I WILL DO EVERYTHING THAT I CAN

  • MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE GOOD

  • JOBS WITH RISING INCOMES, THAT

  • GOOD EDUCATIONS

  • FROM PRESCHOOL THROUGH COLLEGE.

  • I HOPE YOU WILL GIVE ME A CHANCE

  • AS YOUR PRESIDENT.

  • CHRIS: SECRETARY CLINTON, THANK

  • YOU.

  • MR. TRUMP.

  • MR. TRUMP: SHE'S RAISING MONEY

  • FROM THE PEOPLE SHE WANTS TO

  • CONTROL.

  • DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.

  • STARTED THIS

  • CAMPAIGN, I STARTED IT VERY

  • MAKE LY, IT'S CALLED

  • AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.

  • WE'RE GOING TO MAKE AMERICA

  • GREAT.

  • WE HAVE A DEPLETED MILITARY.

  • HELPED AND FIXED.

  • WE HAVE THE GREATEST PEOPLE ON

  • EARTH IN OUR MILITARY.

  • CARE OF OUR

  • VETERANS AND ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS,

  • PEOPLE THAT COME INTO THE

  • COUNTRY ILLEGALLY BETTER THAN

  • VETS.

  • THAT CAN'T HAPPEN.

  • OUR POLICEMEN AND WOMEN ARE

  • DISRESPECTED.

  • WE NEED LAW AND ORDER BUT WE

  • NEED JUSTICE TOO.

  • OUR INNER CITIES ARE A DISASTER.

  • YOU GET SHOT WALKING TO THE

  • STORE.

  • THEY HAVE NO EDUCATION.

  • THEY HAVE NO JOBS.

  • DO MORE FOR

  • AFRICAN-AMERICANS AND LATINOS

  • IN 10 LIFETIMES.

  • ALL SHE'S DONE IS TALKED TO THE

  • AFRICAN-AMERICANS AND LATINOS,

  • THE VOTE AND COME

  • BACK AND SAY, WE'LL SEE YOU IN

  • FOUR YEARS.

  • WE ARE GOING TO MAKE AMERICA

  • AGAIN, AND WE ARE GOING

  • TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, AND

  • IT HAS TO START NOW.

  • TAKE FOUR MORE YEARS

  • OF BARACK OBAMA, AND THAT'S WHAT

  • GET HER.HEN YOU

  • CHRIS: THANK YOU, BOTH.

  • --RETARY CLINTON

  • [APPLAUSE]

  • CHRIS: HOLD ON JUST A MOMENT,

  • FOLKS.

  • I WANT TO THANK YOU BOTH FOR

  • OF ICIPATING IN ALL THREE

  • THESE DEBATES.

  • THAT BRINGS AN END TO THIS

  • SPONSORED BY THE

  • PRESIDENTIAL CONVENTION ON

  • DEBATES.

  • THANK THE UNIVERSITY

  • OF LAS VEGAS FOR HAVING US.

  • NOW IT'S UP TO YOU.

  • NOVEMBER 8 IS JUST 20 DAYS AWAY.

  • ONE THING EVERYONE HERE CAN

  • GREE ON, WE HOPE YOU WILL GO

  • VOTE.

  • IT IS ONE OF THE HONORS AND

  • OBLIGATIONS OF LIVING IN THIS

  • GREAT COUNTRY.

CHRIS: GOOD EVENING FROM THE

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