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  • Please welcome, Lin-Manuel Miranda.

  • Wow.

  • Oh, thank you for making me feel welcome with the music of my people.

  • Oh, absolutely.

  • They make everybody feel welcome.

  • It's just like I'm in Washington Heights.

  • Thank you.

  • You're most welcome.

  • Me theater es tu theater.

  • That's the extent of my Spanish. I'm all done. Exactly.

  • It's really exciting to have you on.

  • "Hamilton"-- And listen, this is no surprise to you--

  • completely blew me away.

  • Thank you very much.

  • Has anybody-- Have you guys-- Have any of you seen it?

  • Thank you. Thanks guys.

  • It's hard to get tickets.

  • You might be a good guy to ask.

  • Could you get 400 tickets to "Hamilton"?

  • Look under your chairs!

  • If I had that Oprah power, I would do it.

  • You grew up as, like, a theater kid.

  • You loved musicals growing up, right? - Yes, yes.

  • What was, 'cause--

  • For me, I went and saw it, and I went--

  • I didn't really know what to expect.

  • I heard good things.

  • And, my first reaction was just like, oh, this is very interesting.

  • It's very different.

  • I wonder how long they can sustain this.

  • And then you go, oh, this is actually quiet magnificent.

  • And then two hours later, I'm going, "Why am I crying over Alexander Hamilton?"

  • Is that a common reaction?

  • It is a common reaction.

  • I think of people think it's gonna be sort of very clever,

  • and they're gonna be lots of knowing winks,

  • And then, but, Alexander Hamilton had this really full and tragic American life.

  • Here in New York.

  • Here in New York City.

  • And he's kind of the New York founding father.

  • How do you feel now that Hamilton's gonna come off the 10 dollar bill?

  • I don't think he is.

  • Really? - Yeah, I just don't--

  • The plan was to take him off, like, by 2017.

  • Do you think you single-handedly kept him on the bill?

  • No, I don't think I have.

  • I think you have. - No.

  • Honest to god, because you know, up until your musical,

  • who talked about Alexander Hamilton?

  • People thought he was a president,

  • but he was never a president.

  • No, he was just a guy on the 10--

  • But, you know, people have always underestimated Alexander Hamilton.

  • So I think, I picture the ghost of Hamilton being like,

  • "I'm not coming off that money.

  • I have more things to say." - He kind of inveneted the money.

  • He made our money. - He created our financial system.

  • I mean, like, one guy created our financial system.

  • It's not just learning about Hamilton,

  • but you're seeing, like, New York has this amazing colonial history. - Yeah.

  • You don't think of that we're living in a colonial town right now.

  • 'Cause I grew up in Charleston, South Carolina,

  • which is like colonial under glass.

  • You're not allowed to change anything.

  • But New York is always making history,

  • because of people like Hamilton. - Totally.

  • And it's, what was amazing about writing it was,

  • you know, I'm a born and bred New Yorker and I love New York,

  • But I didn't have to go very far.

  • My first musical was about Washington Heights, and-- Hey!

  • And there's lots of stuff-- I mean, you know,

  • Fort Tryon Park where Washington made his last stand before he bounced with his troops, is right uptown.

  • His first headquarters is on 162nd street,

  • where Aaron Burr acutually lived for a year.

  • He married the owner of that house, Eliza Jumel, like, in his 50s.

  • He was twelve years older, and he took all her money and bounced a year later.

  • What, Aaron Burr did? - Aaron Burr did, yeah

  • He was a gigolo? - Yeah, well, he was just kind of like,

  • she was a very notorious lady.

  • She married him for his notoriety.

  • He was famous for having shot homeboy, and--

  • As his friends called him.

  • As his friends called him.

  • He used to walk around and he'd say,

  • "My friend Alexander Hamilton, who i shot." - Oh, wow.

  • Yeah, he was-- - Did it bother him for the rest of his life?

  • Yeah, he was sort of a haunted dude for the rest of his life.

  • He may have tried to go annex Mexico and declare himself emperor.

  • There might be a sequel in the works.

  • I mean, he has this whole crazy other life. - That'd be cool.

  • But, yeah, he married this lady on 162nd, like,

  • sort of bilked her for all her money and then, like, fled to Europe.

  • Umm, one of the amazing songs to me is "The Room Where It Happens."

  • Yeah. - Okay.

  • And that's Burr, wanting to be in the room

  • where a deal is being cut between Hamilton, Jefferson, and Madison, right? - Yeah.

  • Do I have it right?

  • Yeah, which sounds so boring, doesn't it?

  • But-- - They're trying to figure where the banks go and the capital goes.

  • Yeah, it's a song about the compromise where in Hamilton basically said,

  • We can trade away the capital of the United States to be down near you guys in Virginia,

  • if you pass my debt plan,

  • if you find the votes to pass my financial plan.

  • Which sounds super dry, but we--

  • You brought a-- You wrote a broadway show about creating a financial plan for the United States.

  • Yeah, yeah.

  • And it swings, baby, it swings. - It does!

  • I just want to say, you, sir, have got some huevos rancheros.

  • Really it does, it takes balls. It takes balls to write this kind of musical.

  • One of my favorite characters in it is Lafayette, okay, -Yeah.

  • And one of the things that's amazing about, like it hits you in the face with the history of New York is,

  • You started this thing in the Public Theater,

  • and so you go in and see, you know, someone playing Lafayette,

  • telling about how improtant he was to the revolutionary cause,

  • And you walk out on to Lafayette Street in New York City. - Totally, yeah.

  • And you can't help but sing it-- ♪ Lafayette

  • Yeah, the fun thing we do with Lafayette is,

  • He's kind of struggling with the language at the beginning of act one,

  • and then at the end of act one, he's a commander

  • and has the fastest rap in the show.

  • I call it the "Police Academy Rule."

  • Which is, you remember the little lady in the, "Police Academy" movies.

  • Would be like "Please, can you please go."

  • And then she'd be like, "Hey! Freeze! Sucker!" And everyone will be like "woah!"

  • So that's kind of what we did with Lafayette.

  • He's like, "Oh, I do not speak your language."

  • And then suddenly he's like,

  • ♪ I’m takin this horse by the reins makinRedcoats redder with bloodstains

  • Like, everyone goes "woah!" I'm just stealing from "Police Academy."

  • Well, the same actor who plays Lafayette also plays Jefferson.

  • Yes, Daveed Diggs. - What's his name?

  • Daveed Diggs, he's a force of nature. - Diggs amazing.

  • And there are great-- There are rap battles between Hamilton and Jefferson in front of Washington

  • trying to determine things like

  • Do they support Paris?

  • Do they pass a debt plan?

  • We got a little clip, a small clip here - Oh, great

  • what that's like to watch these rap battles.

  • In Virginia, we plant seeds in the ground

  • We create. ♪

  • You just wanna move our money around

  • This financial plan is an outrageous demand

  • And it’s too many damn pages for any man to understand

  • Thomas. That was a real nice declaration

  • Welcome to the present, ♪

  • were running a real nation

  • Would you like to join us, or stay mellow

  • Doinwhatever the hell it is you do in Monticello? ♪

  • ♪ A civics lesson from a slaver. ♪

  • Hey neighbor, your debts are paid cuz you don’t pay for labor

  • ♪ “We plant seeds in the South. ♪

  • We create.” ♪

  • Yeah, keep ranting

  • We know who’s really doing the planting

  • Was it?

  • His slaves. His slaves were doing the planting.

  • You talk about slaves, exactly. - Yes.

  • Now again, this is like, nothing I've ever seen.

  • And it's beautiful and it's really moving.

  • Do you have this kind of this experience?

  • Like, what was like the thing you saw when you're younger that completely blew you away

  • and you said, "I have to do that."

  • Oh, It was a couple of things.

  • One-- The first musical I ever saw on broadway

  • We didn't have money for a ton of musicals.

  • I was a cast album guy.

  • My mom used to blast "Man of La Mancha" and "Camelot."

  • Those were like the big ones. - Sure, yeah.

  • So they found Guenevere ♪ , that was like the banginist - ♪ I am I, Don Quixote

  • The Lord of la Mancha, ♪

  • My destiny calls and I go, ♪

  • ♪ I'm Sancho! Yes, I'm Sancho! ♪

  • ♪ I'll follow my master till the end. ♪

  • We should take it on the road. - Yeah, let's go.

  • This thing is ready to go.

  • But then "Les Mis" was the first one I ever saw

  • And I just remember the effect it had on my parents, acutally.

  • They brought home that cast album,

  • And every time they played "Bring Him Home", my mom would start crying

  • And I think that's probably as responsible for me writing musicals.

  • I saw the effect that had on my family.

  • And then "Phantom" was the other-- the second musical I saw

  • It was about, like, an ugly songwriter who, like, wants to get girls to notice him.

  • And I was like, "I know all about that!

  • I'm on the cusp of puberty.

  • This phantom got some good ideas."

  • Well, if you could stick around for a little bit more?

  • Yeah. - Let's talk. Okay, stick around.

  • We'll be right back with more Lin-Manuel Miranda.

Please welcome, Lin-Manuel Miranda.

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