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  • bjbj"9"9 I|7H JUDY WOODRUFF: Now, is it wrong to pay to get to the head of the line? NewsHour

  • economics correspondent Paul Solman explores that question and some related ones in a conversation

  • with the author of a new book. It's part of Paul's regular reporting Making Sense of financial

  • news. WOMAN: Do I think I should be able to bid for a baby? I'm not -- sure. (LAUGHTER)

  • WOMAN: It's a market. PAUL SOLMAN: Michael Sandel has been called one of the most prominent

  • college professors in America for his course "Justice," now online after having been taken

  • by some 25 percent of all Harvard undergrads over the past two decades. Sandel orchestrates

  • a discussion among the course's 1,000 students, mixing case studies with moral stalwarts from

  • Aristotle to John Rawls. Early in the term, Sandel asks students if everything should

  • be for sale, mediated by the marketplace, that is, like the value of a human life, which,

  • posited at $200,000 in one case study, student Julia Roto thought far too low. MICHAEL SANDEL,

  • author, "What Money Can't Buy": What do you think would be a more accurate number? STUDENT:

  • I don't think I could give a number. I think that this sort of analysis shouldn't be applied

  • to issues of human life. PAUL SOLMAN: And thus the theme of Sandel's new book, "What

  • Money Can't Buy," or shouldn't be able to buy, as he explained in an interview at Harvard's

  • student-run Phillips Brooks House. Michael Sandel, welcome. MICHAEL SANDEL: Good to be

  • here. PAUL SOLMAN: What bothers you about what's been happening to our market economy?

  • MICHAEL SANDEL: Over the last three decades, we ve actually drifted, without quite realizing

  • it, from having a market economy to becoming a market society. And the difference is this:

  • A market economy is a tool, a valuable and effective tool, for organizing productive

  • activity. But a market society is a place where almost everything is up for sale. It's

  • a way of life where market values seep into almost every sphere of life, and sometimes

  • crowd out or corrode important values, non-market values. PAUL SOLMAN: Let's get down to cases:

  • queuing, buying your place in line. MICHAEL SANDEL: Right. PAUL SOLMAN: What's wrong with

  • that? MICHAEL SANDEL: Well, it's interesting to notice that, over the past three decades,

  • there are many aspects of life where you can pay your way to the head of the line. In airports,

  • those long lines of security checkpoints, if you're flying on an expensive ticket, you

  • can go to the head of the line. Even if you're flying coach, the airlines will sell you,

  • as an a la carte perk, the right to go to the head of the line for the security check.

  • PAUL SOLMAN: Hey, at Logan Airport, I have a gold passport card right here, where -- I

  • think it was $200 -- and I get to park on the third level of central parking, and I

  • have to confess, I love that. MICHAEL SANDEL: Okay. But here's the question. Is there a

  • difference between paying for a service, a better parking place, or even paying to board

  • the airplane first, so you get access to the overhead bin -- that's a service -- and paying

  • to go to the head of the queue for security checks, which, after all, are to provide for

  • national security to prevent terrorism on airplanes? Is that paying for a service or

  • is that paying for a public good? PAUL SOLMAN: So you're the moral philosopher. Is it okay

  • for me and members of the audience to buy the VIP pass that gets me special access to

  • parking at Boston's airport? MICHAEL SANDEL: Yes, it's fine, Paul. I'm not here to give

  • a moral sermon about every instance of -- of paying more for a service. But it's happening

  • in other parts of our social life, where it does matter. Take a small example. In Washington,

  • D.C., there are line-standing companies. They have arisen because the seats are limited

  • for congressional hearings. Often, the lines are long. Lobbyists want to attend, but they

  • don't like standing in a very long line, maybe overnight. PAUL SOLMAN: Well, their time is

  • very valuable. MICHAEL SANDEL: So what they do is they go to line-standing companies,

  • and they -- those companies hire homeless people and others, pay them an hourly rate

  • to stand in those long lines until just before the hearing. The same line-standing companies

  • will get you a line-stander at the Supreme Court if you want to hear an oral argument

  • that's very popular. Now, different, isn't it, from a preferred parking place or boarding

  • the plane early? PAUL SOLMAN: All right, I have an intuition that it's not right somehow

  • to sell tickets to congressional hearings. But I'm not exactly sure why it's wrong, only

  • that it sounds sort of distasteful. MICHAEL SANDEL: It's wrong for two reasons. One is

  • about equal access. In a democratic society, everyone should have equal access to representative

  • government, to congressional hearings, to Supreme Court arguments. The other reason

  • it's wrong is that it demeans representative government. It's demeaning to the whole idea

  • of government in the name of the public good to have ticket scalpers hawking seats in the

  • Appropriations Committee. LARRY DAVID, actor: Oh, you should see the traffic. The only thing

  • moving is the carpool lane. PAUL SOLMAN: In his book, Sandel mentions an episode on HBO's

  • "Curb Your Enthusiasm," where Larry David is stuck in traffic. LARRY DAVID: I'm not

  • going to use the carpool lane by myself, because I -- I don't want to. PAUL SOLMAN: At this

  • point, opportunity knocks. ACTRESS: Hey, daddy, you want a date with mama? LARRY DAVID: Get

  • in the car. MICHAEL SANDEL: And he got there on time. This was a novel use of a market

  • mechanism to gain access to a carpool lane. But, today, in many cities, Larry David would

  • not have to bother hiring a prostitute to ride in the seat next to him. He and everyone

  • else can simply pay to ride in the fast lane solo, provided you pay the fee. PAUL SOLMAN:

  • Do you have a problem with that, or not? You d outlaw that, or you wouldn't? MICHAEL SANDEL:

  • I don't think it's objectionable by itself. I wouldn't ban it. But the question that worries

  • me is, when almost everything in our public life, not just access to the fast lane, is

  • sold off to the highest bidder, something is lost. Money comes to matter more and more

  • in our society. And against the background of rising inequality, that takes a toll on

  • the commonality of our civic life. PAUL SOLMAN: And that's where you're coming from with all

  • of this? MICHAEL SANDEL: Yes. My concern is with the accumulated effect. Are we cheapening

  • important social goods and civic goods that are worth caring about? PAUL SOLMAN: Michael

  • Sandel, thanks very much. MICHAEL SANDEL: Thank you, Paul. JUDY WOODRUFF: Check back

  • to our website tomorrow, when we will have more from Paul's conversation with Michael

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