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>> WELCOME TO THE LIVE RADIO SHOW,
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CRITICAL MASS SPEAKER SERIES.
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CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY LONG BEACH
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IN FRONT OF A LIVE AUDIENCE.
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I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT.
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YEAH, BABY!
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[ CHEERING AND APPLAUSE ]
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WE HAVE AN EXCITING SHOW PLANNED FOR YOU TONIGHT
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AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU COMING TO THE EVENT HERE
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ON THE BEAUTIFUL CAMPUS AS WELL AS LISTENING TO US
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ON THE STREAM ON OCTALKRADIO.NET.
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TONIGHT'S THEME IS CURIOSITY AND CURIOSITY IS DEFINED
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AS A QUALITY RELATED TO INQUISITIVE THINKING
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SUCH AS EXPLORATION AND LEARNING EVIDENT IN OBSERVATION
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IN HUMAN AND ANIMAL SPECIES.
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THE LATE YOGI BERRA ONCE SAID,
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"YOU CAN OBSERVE A LOT BY WATCHING."
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TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO EXPLORE THE CONCEPT OF CURIOSITY
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TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE ROLE IT PLAYS IN ONE'S LIFE
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AND PROFESSIONAL CAREER.
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TO HELP ME DISCUSS THE POWER OF CURIOSITY,
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WE HAVE TWO PANELISTS.
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TO MY FAR LEFT, DEAN MICHAEL SOLT.
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HE IS THE DEAN OF THE BUSINESS SCHOOL HERE
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AT CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY LONG BEACH.
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GIVE HIM A BIG ROUND OF APPLAUSE!
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[ CHEERING AND APPLAUSE ]
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ALSO JOINING US TONIGHT, WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO HAVE HIM
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AS WELL HERE IN THE AUDIENCE AND ON THE PANEL IS WILL POMERANTZ.
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HE IS VICE PRESIDENT SPECIAL PROJECTS VIRGIN GALACTIC.
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[ APPLAUSE ]
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THIS IS OUR COLLEGE SPEAKER SERIES AND I'M HONORED
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TO BE BACK ON THE CAMPUS OF CAL STATE UNIVERSITY LONG BEACH
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AND WE ARE STREAMING ON OCTALKRADIO.NET.
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THE SHOW WILL BE AVAILABLE AS A PODCAST ON ITUNES
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AND YOUR FAVORITE PODCASTING SOFTWARE NEXT WEEK AS WELL
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AS FROM MY WEBSITE, CRITICALMASSFORBUSINESS.COM.
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THIS IS A DISCUSSION, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,
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DESIGNED TO BE INTERACTIVE BETWEEN THE PANEL AND ME
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AND THE PANEL AND YOU, OUR LIVE AUDIENCE.
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AS I SAID, WE HAVE A MICROPHONE HERE FOR YOUR USE.
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DON'T BE SHY IF THE SPIRIT MOVES YOU, JUST GET UP AND COME
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ON DOWN AND WE'LL LET YOU BE A PART OF THE LIVE SHOW AS WELL.
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LET'S GET STARTED AND I WONDER IF MAYBE WE COULD ASK
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IF YOU COULD BOTH TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR BACKGROUND
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AND TRY TO TIE IN THE CONCEPT OF CURIOSITY
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AND HOW IT'S SERVED YOU IN YOUR CAREER.
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DEAN SOLT, ARE YOU GOING TO GO FIRST?
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>> SURE. WELL, GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.
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THANK YOU, RICK, FOR INVITING US TO BE HERE.
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WELL, I'VE BEEN DEAN OF THE BUSINESS SCHOOL HERE SINCE 2008
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AND THAT'S A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MY BACKGROUND,
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BUT BEFORE THAT I WAS A PROFESSOR
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OF FINANCE FOR MANY DECADES.
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FOR 17 YEARS I WAS A PROFESSOR OF FINANCE AT SAN JOSE STATE
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AND FOR PART OF THAT TIME I WAS AN ASSOCIATE DEAN
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AND GOING WAY BACK I WAS A LITTLE BABY BUCKEYE NUT
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IN OHIO GROWING UP AND BY THE TIME I GOT
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TO COLLEGE I WAS A BIG BUCKEYE NUT OR JUST MADE ME NUTTY
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FOR THE BUCKEYES, I DON'T KNOW.
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BUT, THROUGHOUT MY ACADEMIC CAREER, I'VE BEEN A TEACHER
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AND A RESEARCHER AND I THINK THAT HAS TIED
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IN WITH CURIOSITY A LOT.
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THE RESEARCH PART IS TRYING TO DO SOMETHING NEW AND ORIGINAL
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IN MY FIELD, WHICH IS FINANCE, THAT HADN'T BEEN DONE BEFORE.
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SO, THAT TAKES A LOT OF CURIOSITY TO THINK ABOUT THAT
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AND DESIGNING COURSES LIKE NEW VENTURE FINANCE
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OR INTERNATIONAL FINANCE, MAKING THEM INTERESTING FOR STUDENTS.
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THAT MADE ME CURIOUS ABOUT THOSE SUBJECTS TOO.
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SO, CURIOSITY HAS BEEN PART OF MY PATH, I BELIEVE.
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>> GIVE HIM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE
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FOR BEING THE FIRST ONE TO SPEAK TONIGHT
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[ APPLAUSE ]
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WILL?
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>> WELL, FIRST OF ALL RICK, THANKS FOR HAVING ME ON THE SHOW
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AND THANKS TO DEAN SOLT FOR HOSTING US TODAY.
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I'M VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE ON CAMPUS,
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PARTICULARLY DURING HOMECOMING WEEK.
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IN TERMS OF MY BACKGROUND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE I MOVED
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AROUND EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS WHEN I WAS A KID,
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BUT I HAVE ALWAYS LOVED EXPLORATION.
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YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE SORT OF FORCED BY CIRCUMSTANCES OF LIFE
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TO MAKE ALL NEW FRIENDS AND LEARN NEW TYPES OF FOOD
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AND EVERYTHING EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS,
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SOMETIMES IT GETS A LITTLE BIT ADDICTIVE.
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SO, PERSONALLY, MY LIFE'S GOAL HAS ALWAYS BEEN MAKING IT EASIER
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FOR PEOPLE TO EXPLORE OUTER SPACE.
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I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO GO TO SPACE PERSONALLY,
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BUT I FOUND OUT WHEN I WAS EIGHT YEARS OLD THAT I COULD NEVER GO
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BECAUSE I HAVE THIS TERRIBLE MEDICAL AFFLICTION CALLED
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NEEDING TO WEAR GLASSES.
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SO, YES, I WILL ACCEPT YOUR PITY
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FOR THIS HORRIBLE AND RARE AFFLICTION.
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RIGHT? TOTALLY DISABLED BY THIS, IT'S AMAZING.
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BUT, THAT DETERRED ME FOR A LITTLE WHILE,
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BUT ONCE I REALIZED OUTER SPACE--
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SPACE EXPLORATION WAS ACTUALLY AN INDUSTRY
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THAT HAD REAL JOBS I GOT HOOKED INTO IT
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AND GOT MY ACADEMIC DEGREE IN EARTH AND PLANETARY SCIENCES.
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I SPENT A COUPLE YEARS STUDYING THE GEOLOGY OF OTHER PLANETS.
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PEOPLE USED TO PAY ME TO SIT AROUND AND LOOK
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AT PRETTY PICTURES OF MARS AND THINK DEEP THOUGHTS,
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WHICH WAS SPECTACULAR BUT ALSO A LITTLE BIT FRUSTRATING
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BECAUSE AS A CURIOUS PERSON, I FOUND IT VERY UNSETTLING THAT IN
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THAT FIELD WHEN YOU STUDY ANOTHER PLANET
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AND YOU'RE A SCIENTIST AND ALL YOU WANT IS DATA,
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IN THAT FIELD YOU'RE VERY FORTUNATE
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IF YOU GET A NEW DATA SET ONCE PER DECADE.
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AND YOU'RE ALWAYS SORT OF ONE BAD DAY AWAY
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FROM SKIPPING A DECADE AND THAT WAS NOT THE PACE OF THINGS
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THAT I WAS WELL ACCUSTOMED TO.
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SO, I DECIDED TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL AND THEN
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THROUGH VARIOUS TWISTS AND TURNS
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IN MY CAREER REALLY DEDICATE MYSELF
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TO LETTING THERE BE MORE DATA SETS, ALLOWING MORE PEOPLE
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FROM MORE DIFFERENT TYPES OF BACKGROUNDS, MORE UNIVERSITIES,
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MORE PRIVATE COMPANIES, MORE INDIVIDUALS TO ASK NEW QUESTIONS
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ABOUT SPACE AND THEN GO
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OUT THERE WHETHER IT'S GOING THEMSELVES OR SENDING SATELLITES
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AND GO GET ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS.
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>> GIVE HIM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE PLEASE.
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WILL POMERANTZ.
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[ APPLAUSE ]
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AS WE BEGAN TO PUT THE SHOW CONCEPT TOGETHER,
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DOING SOME BACKGROUND, IF YOU HAVEN'T GOOGLED THIS GENTLEMEN,
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I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO IT.
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NOT NOW. NOT ON OUR SMARTPHONES.
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PUT THOSE DOWN.
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HOLD ON. BUT, LATER THIS EVENING OR SOMETIME
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IN THE NOT-TOO-DISTANT FUTURE.
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AND AS I HEARD HIM SPEAK AND READ ABOUT HIM,
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THE IDEA OF CURIOSITY KIND OF CAME TO US AS TO FOLLOW
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INTO THE PROFESSION-- HOW MANY OF US GO OUT AND LOOK
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UP AT THE STARS AT NIGHT ON OCCASION?
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ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE DO THAT?
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IS THAT NOT AN AMAZING SIGHT?
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IS THAT NOT AN AMAZING SIGHT?!
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THANK YOU.
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AMEN, BROTHER.
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LET'S MAKE THIS WORK, ALRIGHT?
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JUST WONDERING WHAT IS THERE AND--
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WHICH GOT US THINKING ABOUT, WELL, WHAT IF IT'S NOT SOMETHING
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AS VAST AND AS POTENTIALLY INTERESTING AS SPACE?
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WHAT IF IT'S SOMETHING LIKE YOUR CAREER OR YOUR JOB?
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HOW DO YOU BRING THAT SAME SENSE OF WONDER AND IS THAT IMPORTANT
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TO BRING THAT SENSE OF WONDER INTO YOUR LIFE, INTO YOUR JOB?
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ARE THERE ADVANTAGES TO THAT?
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AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS TONIGHT.
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NOT TO GET TOO HEAVY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FUN,
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BUT WE'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE A SERIOUS CONVERSATION.
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SO, LET'S START BY ASKING WILL, IF YOU'LL GO FIRST,
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WHAT'S YOUR DEFINITION OF CURIOSITY?
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>> WELL, THESE DAYS I HAVE A DIFFERENT ONE.
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MY WIFE WORKS FOR NASA AT THE JET PROPULSION LAB
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AND SHE'S A MISSION LEAD FOR A ROBOTIC MISSION EXPLORING MARS
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THAT IS CALLED CURIOSITY.
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SO, CURIOSITY, IN ADDITION TO OTHER THINGS,
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MEANS HALF OF THE INCOME IN OUR FAMILY, WHICH IS PRETTY NICE.
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[ CHEERING ]
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BUT, MORE GENERALLY, I WOULD SAY CURIOSITY MEANS JUST CONSTANTLY
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ASKING QUESTIONS AND ACTUALLY CARING
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ABOUT THE ANSWER TO THOSE QUESTIONS.
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YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO ASK A LOT OF QUESTIONS
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BECAUSE IT'S A WAY TO FILL THE TIME
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AND MAKE CONVERSATIONS LESS AWKWARD AND I GUESS THAT'S FINE,
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BUT THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE WHO ASK QUESTIONS AND THEN WILL GO
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AND GO BACK TO THEIR COMPUTER
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AND SPEND 20 HOURS RESEARCHING THE DAMN THING JUST
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BECAUSE THEY GOT THE BUG IN THEIR BRAIN THAT HEY,
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THERE'S SOMETHING INTERESTING OUT THERE
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AND I WANT TO GO FIGURE IT OUT.
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>> DEAN SOLT?
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>> WELL, I THINK CURIOSITY IS WANTING KNOWLEDGE,
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NEEDING EXPLANATION, SEEKING ANSWERS.
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I THINK IT'S THE INBRED-- INBORN INTEGRAL PART OF HUMAN NATURE
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THAT SORT OF BRINGS TOGETHER OUR PSYCHE
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AND THE REAL WORLD AROUND US.
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TO ME, IT'S THE LINK BETWEEN OUR MENTAL STATES
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AND THE REAL WORLD.
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SO, A LOT OF WAYS, SEEMS TO ME
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THAT CURIOSITY IS AN ACTION WORD.
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LITTLE QUOTE FROM WALT DISNEY.
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HE SAID, "WE KEEP MOVING FORWARD, OPENING NEW DOORS
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AND DOING NEW THINGS BECAUSE WE'RE CURIOUS
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AND CURIOSITY KEEPS LEADING US DOWN THE ROAD."
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SO, I THINK IT TRULY IS AN ACTION WORD.
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>> THANK YOU.
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ALRIGHT. I WOULD LIKE YOU
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TO GIVE THEM BOTH A ROUND OF APPLAUSE AGAIN.
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I'M SORRY, BUT WE'RE GOING TO JUST KEEP YOU MOVING.
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I KNOW IT'S SIX O'CLOCK, SIX SOMETHING HERE IN THE EVENING.
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HOPEFULLY YOU GOT A LITTLE BIT OF FOOD
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IF YOU'RE IN THE LIVE AUDIENCE.
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IF YOU'RE LISTENING TO US ON THE STREAM, YOU COULD BE WALKING
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AROUND YOUR HOUSE DOING WHATEVER IS THE RIGHT THINK
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FOR YOU TO DO RIGHT NOW.
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MAYBE EVEN HAVING A DRINK.
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BUT THAT'S FINE WITH US; WE DON'T MIND AS LONG
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AS YOU'RE LISTENING AND PARTICIPATING.
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WHAT DO YOU GENTLEMEN THINK--
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OR HOW DO YOU THINK CURIOSITY IS IMPORTANT IN A CAREER?
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HOW DO YOU THINK IT SHOWS UP IN SOMEONE'S CAREER?
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DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ABOUT SPACE.
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MAYBE SOME OF YOU ARE GOING TO PROCEED IN THAT VEIN
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AND THAT INDUSTRY, BUT, OVERALL,
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HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THAT QUESTION?
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>> I-- IT COULD NOT POSSIBLY BE MORE IMPORTANT.
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IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE ABSOLUTELY LOOKING
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FOR FROM THE MOMENT YOU FIRST APPLY FOR A JOB
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AT OUR COMPANY AND, BY THE WAY, WE'RE HIRING, SO I HOPE MANY
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OF YOU WILL APPLY FOR A JOB AT OUR COMPANY.
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BUT, EVEN ONCE YOU MAKE IT IN THROUGH THE DOORS, IT IS A THING
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THAT WE REQUIRE OF YOU EVERY DAY AND NIGHTS AND WEEKENDS ALSO.
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YOU KNOW, THE CURIOUS EMPLOYEES ARE THE ONES
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WHO DON'T ONLY DO WHAT THEIR MANAGER DIRECTS THEM TO DO.
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AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS
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THAT NO MATTER HOW AMAZINGLY VIRTUOSIC YOUR CEO IS
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AND NO MATTER HOW GOOD YOUR MIDDLE LINE MANAGERS ARE,
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YOUR MANAGER WILL NEVER TELL YOU EVERYTHING THAT YOU NEED TO DO.
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IF HE OR SHE DOES, THEN THERE'S PROBABLY--
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YOU HAVEN'T FOUND THE RIGHT COMPANY JUST YET.
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I WORK AT A COMPANY WHERE WE'RE ENCOURAGED--
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OF COURSE WE HAVE TO DO OUR WORK, BUT WE'RE ENCOURAGED
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TO ASK OTHER QUESTIONS TO FIND NEW WAYS OF DOING THINGS
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TO MAYBE EVEN SUGGEST ENTIRELY NEW THINGS
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THAT PERHAPS WE SHOULD BE DOING.
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IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT, WE WOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN BORN
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AS A COMPANY.
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I MEAN FOR GOODNESS SAKES WE'RE A COMPANY THAT'S TRYING
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TO BE THE WORLD'S FIRST COMMERCIAL SPACE LINE.
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WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT SO THAT ANYONE ON THE PLANET CAN GO
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TO SPACE SO THAT EVERYONE ON THE PLANET CAN BUILD A SATELLITE
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OR SOME KIND OF RESEARCH EXPERIMENT, SEND THAT TO SPACE.
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YOU DON'T EVEN START A BUSINESS THAT ON THE SURFACE
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OF IT SOUNDS KIND OF CRAZY UNLESS YOU'RE CURIOUS
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ABOUT WELL, WHAT THE HECK WOULD HAPPEN IF WE JUST--
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IF WE JUST ANNOUNCE THIS THING,
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WOULD ANYONE BE INTERESTED IN BUYING IT?
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SO, YEAH. AND, AGAIN, THAT IS CERTAINLY NOT LIMITED
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TO AEROSPACE.
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ALL YOU SAY THIS IN THE CONTEXT OF HIRING BECAUSE I'M HERE
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AT A UNIVERSITY AND I SUSPECT MAYBE SOME OF YOU ARE LOOKING
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FOR INTERNSHIPS OR JOBS.
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YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU-- WE COME IN,
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WE'RE GOING TO ASK YOU QUESTIONS ABOUT--
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NOT JUST ABOUT YOUR GRADES OR WHAT YOU'VE DONE
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AT MAYBE PAST SUMMER INTERNSHIPS OR FOR A PROFESSOR
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THAT YOU WORK FOR, I'M GOING
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TO ASK WHAT YOU DO IN YOUR SPARE TIME.
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I'M GOING TO ASK WHAT YOUR HOBBIES ARE
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AND WHAT I WANT THE ANSWER TO BE IS WELL I WAS LOOKING
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FOR THIS CLUB AND CAL STATE LONG BEACH DIDN'T HAVE THE CLUB