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  • I talk to lots of people who come here

  • looking for the Silicon Valley experience

  • They arrive with one suit case in hand

  • when they head south on the 101.

  • Hoping to see it this place they've heard about

  • and its freeways, and its office parks

  • and its strip malls, and

  • it looks like every place they've ever been

  • end up wondering where are they come,

  • why did they come here,

  • what was that brought them

  • Code itself is the underlying thing that makes computers work

  • Why is it important to the world, it's because

  • it's the blood of the organism, that's our culture now,

  • it makes everything go

  • Technology has become a God of our society now

  • I mean I think that its--people stand in awe of it

  • and stand in awe of the people that make it

  • There's a sense that software is a kind of new frontier

  • it's you know it's the old gold rush metaphor

  • the California gold rush all over again

  • It's the kind of Hollywood of the Twenties.

  • This very small set of people is really defining

  • how our world's gonna be like

  • I mean you know the computer becoming ubiquitous

  • and the way we interact with the world

  • more and more mediated through the computer

  • is this very small group of people

  • defining what that world's gonna be like.

  • Netscape !

  • everywhere !

  • team !

  • fight !

  • Less than three years ago

  • a small team of engineers at Netscape Communications

  • created software that made surfing the Internet easy

  • and in the process change the face of computing

  • On this day however, the company is in big trouble

  • driven to the ground by its rival and software colossus Microsoft

  • Only a radical strategy will help save it.

  • "Let's hear a loud Mozilla !"

  • Mozilla ! Mozilla ! Mozilla !

  • Netscape is giving away its source code

  • to programmers outside the company

  • The source code is the secret formula for browsing the web

  • The code is named Mozilla and if widely adapted

  • it will make Netscape's code the Internet standard

  • drawing users to its other products

  • and restoring the company's sagging fortunes.

  • Our story focuses on team of engineers

  • who will come together in this building

  • Over the course of the next year

  • they will turn their lives inside-out to create Mozilla

  • and battle a giant competitor to save their company

  • and shape the future of computing.

  • Right now we have a problem with the work looks like it can't possibly be done

  • for the date we announced

  • so were just trying to

  • drill down on how doomed we are

  • and sometimes the only way to do that is

  • to get everybody in the room and stare each other in the eyes.

  • We said were giving you Netscape Communicator on 3/31

  • so if were not giving them Netscape Communicator on 3/31

  • we need a way to address that.

  • The goal is to get Mozilla to developpers by March 31th

  • a few shorts weeks from now

  • it is one of the most ambitious schedules in the company history.

  • - It's a joke

  • - I think we have been very exclusive

  • Michael Toy one of Netscape's first employees

  • heads the team that will prepare Mozilla for public release.

  • We're probably doomed, we're probably gonna fail

  • Microsoft is probably gonna squish us like bug anyway

  • but just cause were doomed doesn't mean

  • you know we cant get up in the morning and do work

  • All rise

  • the honorable Michael Toy presiding.

  • I'm pretty flip with my kids about what I do.

  • What do you do at work dad? Oh I don't know I sit in meetings

  • and feel depressed and I read e-mail.

  • Oh oh you got me !

  • But they think my office is the greatest place in the world though

  • It's like "Oh were going to your office ?"

  • "Oh yeah yippie I love going to your office !"

  • They play with the guns and there is free soda

  • and there is the giant balls

  • basically I work at Disneyland as far as they're concerned.

  • I talk about marathon versus sprint.

  • The hard part is to run with significant intensity the whole way

  • knowing that if you ever start walking

  • you're not going to make it and just keep the end in sight

  • and know that there's this urgency.

  • Jim Roskind an expert on software security

  • is brought in to enforce rigorous standards of engineering precision.

  • Imagine if you had a project

  • where you felt doom was imminent

  • all the different players wondering

  • are they pushed beyond their level

  • can they think of way of running faster,

  • can anyone help them ?

  • So there's lot of tension

  • and anxiety over making the schedule.

  • Jamie Zawinski, free source code evangelist

  • will enlist outside developers to Netscape's cause.

  • The free source thing is trying to change the rules, right.

  • There are people who have the free software religion,

  • the one thing they have in common is they're all hackers

  • they're all like writing code

  • so you hoping to tap in to all of those smart people

  • and get something from them, you know, so that everyone benefits..

  • I talk about 2 millions and 2 half millions lines of code

  • and everyone of them has to be gone over

  • carefully and in some cases twice.

  • With hundreds of engineers converging on Mozilla,

  • with new code to enable its release,

  • Tara Hernandez make sure

  • that their changes do not crash Mozilla

  • and brings everyones work to a halt.

  • This is how we keep track

  • of all the changes that are going in.

  • Green is good.

  • Lot of changes going on right here,

  • and wham, the build all died.

  • Ok, alright, bye.

  • We're doomed.

  • Some of the worst crashes are reserved for Scott Collins

  • a veteran code writer who stands by

  • for late night troubleshooting.

  • I've been here for about

  • I don't know, 60 hours or so.

  • Writing software is different from

  • selling real estate.

  • Selling real estate you sell the people

  • the people sleep at night.

  • When they go to sleep you have to stop selling real estate

  • Computers never sleep.

  • You can see my cube is decked out a little bit better than

  • all the people's.

  • I have a nice couch

  • little mattress under there I can sleep in

  • artwork from my children

  • I have control the light switches.

  • This is what I'd like to get if my wife truly love me

  • she'd let me have one.

  • Life is good.

  • Ok

  • Bug count.

  • Alright, there are a ton of bugs on here that

  • people just aren't doing anything about.

  • To give away its code

  • Netscape engineers must make thousands of bug fixes

  • Often minute changes that will allow the code

  • to be used by outside developpers.

  • Jeff Weinstein has, one, two,

  • three, four, five, six,

  • seven, eight, nine, ten,

  • eleven, twelve, thirteen.

  • One bug hidden in the mass of code

  • can stop everyone else's work

  • and can threaten the ship date.

  • I need someone to page Jeff Weinstein

  • and get him to call 2024.

  • Even a team of twenty people building a car

  • it's easy to step back fourty feet and look and go

  • "Hold it, that guy has not putting on the wheel"

  • You have fourty programmers working

  • they all come to you with code, a gigantic morass

  • of little details piled up on a disc

  • usually can even see the pieces whether they're doing it correctly

  • You have to assemble it into a whole

  • and then see if the whole works

  • and then you're not even sure of who gave you the bad bits.

  • That would be bad. Let's go downstairs, come on!

  • You're talking about a recipe.

  • Who gave you the bad flour.

  • Someone went out to grind flour,

  • and they had to all be exactly

  • the right size chunks of flour.

  • Someone else made chocolate chips,

  • they all had to be exactly the right size chunks.

  • You can't figure it out until you put it all together

  • you hand it out, and people go.

  • "I don't like the way this tastes"

  • And now you have to wonder,

  • with all these details coming together

  • which was the problem

  • who's causing the problem, how can you fix it?

  • You've got to ship on a certain time.

  • And now you have all this people,

  • you have the clock ticking and it gets pretty intense.

  • Since Netscape began

  • the amount of code making up Mozilla

  • has increased by a factor of 30.

  • The job of programming and debugging it

  • rests upon a precarious balance of science and art.

  • They talk about what they do as if

  • it was a kind of alchemy, a kind of wizardry.

  • It does remind me of athletics in that way.

  • You know why is someone a good baseball hitter?

  • Often the hitters themselves can't really explain it.

  • And often the best software people

  • cannot themselves understand why they're so good at it.

  • But I think make a great programmer is being raised techie.

  • My particular team at Netscape, I think we all grew up techie

  • We all grew up with computers around us somewhere,

  • so that we were exposed to them before we became

  • adults, if any of us are really adults

  • Jim is the most grownup of us.

  • A lot of my childhood from roughly age 6 to age 17

  • was around here.

  • Life was just a nightmare, this is a very, very scary place

  • the two school wasn't too bad.

  • Ah, but it meant it

  • you'd get to work on puzzles and problems.

  • All of the puzzling is math,

  • and that puzzling is the exact same feeling

  • the exact same problem that you go through

  • when you're programming.

  • When I was young it'd be building with erector sets and Lego

  • now the structures that you build are in software.

  • My mom is a first class geek too.

  • And so I have a unique experience of being able to talk

  • shop with my mom, cuz' she's a director of

  • really important stuff at Sun.

  • At Netscape one of the code words for is the average person

  • who is going to be able to use this software is,

  • "Well can my mom use it?"

  • Yeah, my mom can use it.

  • My mom can write optimizing compilers.

  • By the time I was 12 years old I was making 50 bucks an hour

  • programming computers.

  • People say what should I be should I grow up to be a...

  • I say computer programmer.

  • The thing about that makes it a youth culture

  • is one's capacity to throw one's entire life on the line

  • with these firms

  • Entire life commitment meaning

  • 24-7-365 work commitment.

  • It's throwing yourself into a thing

  • where you don't know if that job

  • is going to be around soon.

  • There's no stability in here.

  • So the very kind of weird irony

  • is that very people who are inventing the future

  • can't see their own future.

  • This is a monk-life existence

  • there are very few women in these societies.

  • These are male societies,

  • they are secret societies,

  • they function very much like the Masons

  • or some street gang.

  • Evil!

  • Evil ! Evil !

  • Evil man !

  • Why am I an evil man ?

  • Did you or did you not hear a man saying Why am I an evil man ?

  • Did you or did you not hear a man saying

  • if you have a source leaving one bug, you will be

  • in here at 1:30.

  • I thought it was 2:30

  • Now you're evil and stupid.

  • (laughs)

  • You now that, I'm actually just in a different time zone.

  • I thought stupidity was an excuse though.

  • A lot of people at Netscape don't get out much

  • because they're at work all the time but

  • most of people's social interaction I would expect is

  • revolves around work just because

  • so many people spend so much of their time at work.

  • Hi Chris, it's Tara

  • um, how much do you love me?

  • Good.

  • What do you know about way the threading stuff

  • that falls into Javascript stuff and Java makes it feed?

  • All we have left to hold on to, really

  • is the work place, I mean it is the modern village.

  • People get to know your history

  • they shrug at your bad jokes.

  • There's a kind of familiarity that

  • and continuity that we don't have elsewhere.

  • Paul

  • we're going go out in a while and get something to eat

  • and do stupid things. You're interested?

  • Sure. Sure. Right.

  • Ok, the purpose of this meeting is not to beat up people

  • the purpose of this meeting is to make sure that

  • as a company we are incredibly focused on

  • getting the bug count to 0

  • we've been moderately focused up until now

  • we need to be deadly focused

  • from here on in.

  • Ok Jeff Weinstein

  • is he in this room?

  • He's not in this room.

  • Did not check-in this weekend, true or false?

  • He did not check-in this weekend

  • He did not answer his mail

  • and he hasn't answered his phone yet either.

  • His locator shows he's with the rest of the colonists

  • (laughs)

  • The old saying is that trying to manage programmers

  • is like trying to herd cats.

  • You know you want them to be cats

  • if you like cats, I mean 'cause you want what's unique about

  • that creature

  • But they really don't all like to go in the same direction.

  • In less than four years

  • Netscape has grown from a handful of people

  • to over 200

  • and sometimes, locating a programmer

  • become yet another obstacle

  • for the browser team to overcome.

  • I'd say he's not in there.

  • That would be my guess, straight out.

  • He's not there.

  • When's the last time he was in here?

  • This afternoon.

  • Ok

  • Tara and I are ready to take a hit out on him.

  • and well if ya see him when he comes back tell him to

  • panic and run around and we're like

  • doomed on Mac right now with this thing.

  • Doomed ! doomed on Mac right now with this thing.

  • Doomed !

  • The person working on Mac is like waiting for data right ?

  • You should go around to every person in the company saying, "Doomed!"

  • Netscape predicament has much to do with this man

  • Bill Gates, whose company, Microsoft

  • has made him the richest, and arguably

  • the most powerful man in the world.

  • Allright if we can have order we'd like to begin.

  • Viewing Netscape's browser

  • as a potential threat to his computing empire

  • Gates has moved swiftly,

  • making his own browser free

  • and Netscape claims,

  • also engaging an unfair business practices

  • to take away its customers.

  • But we need to explore today

  • whether you and your company

  • have crossed the line

  • or on the other hand

  • whether this is just the carping of disgruntled rivals.

  • Netscape CEO Jim Barksdale

  • argues his company's case before the Senate.

  • And certainly nobody here on this panel is

  • a greater admirer of Mr. Gates

  • or his company than I am.

  • But we do ask that Microsoft

  • be held accountable

  • for some of their actions.

  • Actions that intimidate PC OEM manufacturers

  • to use their products and exclusionary practises

  • that prevent them from using my products.

  • Not all companies succeed.

  • Some fail to embrace change.

  • This is the way technology in the free market works.

  • The software industry's success

  • has not been driven by government regulation

  • but by freedom and the basic human desire

  • to learn, to innovate and to excel.

  • Meanwhile thousand of miles away

  • Netscape programmers continue working around the clock

  • in a race to meet Mozilla's release date.

  • These guys they tend to work very consistently,

  • so they'll just keep working until it's done and they won't stop.

  • They don't need food, they don't need sleep,

  • they don't need anything

  • OK, so they take pay, but...

  • A while ago some people from Harvard came and said

  • "Well how do you develop software, we're writing a book" and I

  • and I talked about all the things I thought

  • were really important and they were just

  • it felt to me like they were shaking their heads going,

  • Oh, gee, he doesn't know about Principle 7

  • and oh, he doesn't know about Principle 22

  • and in some ways they're right... I really haven't got a clue.

  • Right I really like to err on the side of

  • every day we wake up in the morning and say

  • based on what I know today

  • what's the best way to get to where we all want to go?

  • I personally or me and you three of us

  • do no have time to read all two millions of source code

  • to see that, there are no remaining problems.

  • We're going over here

  • zeroing in on Jeff Weinstein.

  • With March 31st only days away

  • the team can't proceed until Jeff Weinstein

  • an expert on some of Netscapes most arcane code

  • finds time to complete the bug fixes on his list.

  • How are you doing ?

  • OK

  • Alright well

  • you are officially the most doomed

  • individual in the company sir

  • this one I can close, stay with this one

  • yeah bunch of these

  • Um hopefully I'll get most of it done tonight

  • His goal he was just going to stay all night

  • and he was going to get it all done.

  • The good news is actually I think by about

  • I'm not sure if it was 9 or 11 o'clock at night

  • he actually was completely done.

  • Yeah !

  • Reaching a critical milestone

  • is cause for celebration.

  • And one bug left

  • and it's a really really hard one

  • Don't make me kill you, close 4330.

  • I will close 4330.

  • Bug count is small

  • there are some bugs that are not currently closed

  • but most of them are like piddly little annoying things that

  • Some of its stuck !

  • All praise the uh the mighty ones that created tremendous pile of

  • people working really hard this week to do the impossible.

  • There is this magic phrase that Michael Toy invented

  • which is "Zarro Boogs", hum

  • which is it's not quite perfect

  • but it's perfect enough

  • as zero bugs / "zarro boogs".

  • Do you have a spare monitor upstairs?

  • Yes I do have a spare monitor.

  • This is the first big test

  • Will an outsider actually be able to make Mozilla work?

  • If not Netscape stands a good chance of missing its March 31st deadline

  • I thought it's gonna be huge thing,

  • I thought it's gonna be like a hundred,

  • two hundred people here like all and rows

  • like with soviet style.

  • We are near that organized

  • Looks like it's all here, here we go!

  • Wow! All good, it's pretty simple how stuff is built.

  • It's just there's set of scripts that are set up

  • to say exactly what to compile and then

  • they all get globbed together into Mozilla hopefully.

  • - Here it is - Yeah

  • If you get it to work, then it means anybody can get it to work.

  • That's true.

  • (WILD CHEERING clapping laughter)

  • - And look It has an about face! - ...Look it's so cute...

  • - Oh, that was pretty

  • - Yeah it's... - No, I don't think it's working.

  • - Well go to the.. - Well - Oh... - Big crash...

  • - Hell shot the foot...

  • It's actually going really well.

  • I didn't think we'd actually get somebody

  • to build this quickly.

  • We had to do one small adjustment and it worked!

  • With the source almost ready to ship,

  • Netscape must explain the significance

  • of Mozilla to the press.

  • Basically what we wanna do is we wanna give them a little bit of the history

  • and then we wanna go into the what's actually going to happen tomorrow.

  • The other important take away then too from this

  • is that this is a really exciting cool thing.

  • - Good afternoon, Forrester - Hi Stan Dolberg and uh Eric Brown please.

  • - One second.

  • - You've reached voicemail for Stan Dolberg -- I'll transfer you now

  • - Good afternoon, Forrester.

  • - Hi this is Maggie Young.

  • I'm calling from Netscape and I have scheduled

  • conference call with Stan Dolberg and Eric Brown

  • and I just got Stan's voicemail.

  • Netscape hopes the press will greet Mozilla with the same enthusiasm

  • it had for the company in its early days.

  • At eleven AM this morning, Netscape's stock went public and Wall Street went bonkers.

  • Initially offer had a price of 38 $ a share,

  • Netscape shut up to 72 within minutes...

  • The stock is bid up at extraordinary levels

  • in the first couple of really days and weeks

  • of its introduction.

  • It is the biggest initial public offering

  • in basically the Wall Street history.

  • - Good afternoon, Forrester

  • - Hi this is Josh Walker.

  • Today less than three years after its record breaking IPO however,

  • Netscape's story generates a different response.

  • - Hi there - Yup

  • - As you now tomorrow is March 31st

  • - So that means hum, source code will be made

  • available to the developer community.

  • And we thought we would just

  • catch you up to speed and walk you through

  • that and see if you had some questions.

  • - Either I'm braindead or it takes lot of effort to communicate

  • and so I'm concerned that while you all know

  • what it means, I'm not confident

  • that it's coming across to the press.

  • - Right, I think those are good points.

  • By opening up the source code, we basically extend our developer community

  • from those folks that are inside of Netscape

  • to hundreds and thousands of developers

  • outside of Netscape

  • so it's no longer Netscape versus Microsoft.

  • It's Netscape and all of the Netscape,

  • you know, virtual community.

  • - I think there is a belief that Netscape

  • doesn't have a position to continue

  • to compete with Microsoft

  • in the browser front and that

  • in essence you've given up on the browser position.

  • This was a lot more smooth than I had originally anticipated.

  • Really.

  • I'm still waiting for the major bump in the road

  • that's gonna happen some time between now

  • and tomorrow afternoon.

  • In software development there is

  • always a bump in the road.

  • We just want to hear the Apple story

  • They just can't quite get themselves comfortable

  • with the patent grant or with

  • whatever we tried to do to fix it for them.

  • So the last thing back out of their lawyer was

  • "gee, oh I don't know that we get enough protection."

  • Mozilla has a small piece of code from Apple that has not been cleared for public license.

  • - Ok. - We have to escalate.

  • - Hi this is Mark Andreeson,

  • I called a few minutes ago, and left message

  • we're trying to get - the problem is I can't get phone

  • there's no one at the Apple switchboard

  • so I'm having a hard time getting phone numbers for people.

  • Awesome.

  • Hold on, 6 2 0.

  • In order to ship Mozilla the next morning,

  • Scott Collins is called in

  • to replace Apple's code with his own invention.

  • And theoretically we believe this is possible.

  • It's my last bug. When I complete this bug,

  • I will be allowed to rest.

  • So I stayed up until about 5:40,

  • this morning writing this replacement class.

  • It made my life a living hell.

  • I got it basically running, it's all running,

  • it's all really good, and thank heavens

  • we got permission from Apple

  • to ship the regular source.

  • It's my understanding that Jamie

  • is gonna be the person that's gonna be pushing

  • the bits up to the website at around 10:00,

  • is that correct?

  • OK.

  • And we're gonna be staging some different

  • photo opportunities for the press at that time,

  • there will be television cameras you know news crews

  • - Couldn't we just like hire actors to do this for us?

  • - ...just tell them they get to be on TV come on.. - We're not gonna mandate it..

  • - You're on TV right now. - We've been on TV for two months.

  • - I don't think anyone is gonna come.

  • One way to learn to run a marathon

  • is put a person out 26 miles into the desert,

  • and say, you know, there's this bomb on your back

  • that's gonna go off in a certain length of time

  • if you don't get into the town.

  • Well, that'll motivate you to get in

  • but there is a certain chance that you'll be blown up.

  • - You know what time it is? - Yeah it's five to ten.

  • - Aah! Going to be late. Hurry up!

  • Welcome everybody to the conference call.

  • Thanks for joining us this morning.

  • Today Netscape announced that

  • the first developer release of its Communicator 5.0

  • source code is available for download

  • from the Mozilla dot org website.

  • - You know where Tara is?

  • - Second floor?

  • - It's first floor, way on the other side.

  • And then today on the end of March,

  • as we announced, we are pushing the code

  • out to the Web as they say,

  • and we are delighted to be part of it

  • and we're very excited to see what happens.

  • The good news is the marathoner is now

  • coming into town with that bomb on his back

  • and it looks like he's gonna make it.

  • - This is the moment of truth!

  • They don't have theoretical framework

  • to write software, they're just writing it.

  • It's just like hitting the baseball.

  • If their code gets a home run,

  • nobody's asking questions.

  • Well, this doesn't make sense,

  • or why do you that, why does it work.

  • Nobody cares why it works.

  • - Wait this is bad. - What's that?

  • - Well it's not connecting to... - The machine that controls

  • the FTP push is, like, not answering.

  • - Is it loaded? - It's "blast" not "blash".

  • - Oh - Yeah maybe they're...

  • - Mac's there. UNIX is there. Windows is there. - We're done!

  • - It's on! - Yeah!

  • - Since Jamie is here, I am told that means

  • that we have now pushed the source out on the Net.

  • Is that correct ?

  • - Actually, we decided not to.

  • We thought it was a stupid idea.

  • - That's our story and were sticking to it.

  • For a moment, everyone at Netscape

  • takes a breather.

  • - I think it's gonna work out.

  • In the first hour of its release,

  • the source code is downloaded thousands of times

  • but the number of downloads is no guarantee

  • that Netscape will receive enough valuable contributions

  • to help the company to reverse its slide.

  • He's known as Pavlov to me. He's Pavlov at

  • Pavlov.net, on IRC he's Pavlov or Pav or

  • um, Pav Sleeping, or Pav Tired Up Too Late.

  • And um without him I think we'd be months behind.

  • Netscape's notoriety draws code writers

  • from around the world willing to work on Mozilla without pay.

  • One such contributor comes from rural Georgia.

  • I've been amazed over the last two or three years,

  • when especially his mother would come tell me

  • "Well, so and so called" from maybe New York

  • and they were coming to Atlanta

  • and they wanted to talk to Stuart or see him,

  • and they were gonna go down and have lunch.

  • "Well", I'd say "Who is this person from New York?"

  • And the all of a sudden "Well, he's been working

  • with Stuart on some programming issues

  • for a year or so and he wanted to come down

  • and meet. "Well, did you tell him you're only sixteen?"

  • I had no idea. Um, and that's great,

  • that's a wonderful thing because

  • he's contributing. It doesn't matter that he's young.

  • The place we call the cave. We just shut the door

  • and this is where he does whatever he does.

  • It is flabbergasting to think that your child

  • has done something for this worldwide company

  • instead of his homework.

  • I went and looked back at the older code

  • and I was really frightened by how

  • incredibly messy and just awful the code looked.

  • It would have taken you know

  • years to try and figure out what it was doing.

  • So we basically did it from scratch.

  • Pretty much I'm providing the code that makes

  • the browser show everything faster

  • and more efficiently than it used to.

  • His keyboarding is almost just like talking.

  • It's just um, an expression.

  • He can express himself that way

  • and it's just totally unconscious, almost.

  • Just a part of how he communicates.

  • In the past, free code contributions

  • helped build the Internet.

  • How commercial enterprise would benefit

  • from free code remains a big question.

  • Well, it's certainly my hope that

  • the enormous amount of new people

  • that no one company could afford

  • to have working on any product,

  • now contributing to the Netscape Navigator

  • Communicator will make a significant difference

  • in the improvement of the product.

  • How that works against any competitor,

  • remains to be seen.

  • -Good morning -Good morning, Thank you.

  • David Readerman an analyst for San Francisco Investment Bank,

  • closely monitors Netscape's radical plan

  • for investors eager to participate

  • in the Internet stock boom.

  • The market is really kind of a voting machine,

  • it's voting yes I believe that vision statement.

  • Yes I believe that's gonna result in products sales.

  • Yes that's going to drive earnings up, and

  • you know stocks should traded accordingly.

  • The financial benefits to Netscape of

  • giving away its source code are hard to measure.

  • I understand why Netscape's trying to do it.

  • They still have to show me that

  • behind the vision and the slideware,

  • there's a real sustainable business model

  • that can deliver earnings hum,

  • and so I'm in show-me mode for Netscape.

  • Now, my job will be three times

  • as hard as it was yesterday and it was already ten times harder than it needed to be.

  • Right? Did I just work really hard to ship

  • the company jewels out of the building and

  • it's just gonna end in us dying

  • and rolling in poison and misery.

  • The day after this stuff goes out,

  • you really don't get to let up.

  • There is then the sort of day in day out,

  • go to work turn on the computer, code, code code.

  • - Thanks Tara.

  • - Tara?

  • - Yeah what's your doctor say Tara?

  • - Uh, my doctor says interestingly enough

  • that I work too much

  • and uh, that if I went to work today after

  • my appointment he would personally kill me.

  • I have an agreement with myself

  • that by the time I'm 35, I'm either going

  • to be high school teacher or bartender,

  • but something, anything other than a

  • in a position in the hightech industry,

  • otherwise I'll probably die by the time I'm 40.

  • Uh, now that I'm an old guy

  • I've kind of been round the block

  • couple times and you can go from realizing,

  • "This just never stops, does it?"

  • And that being really depressing

  • because you feel like it "I'm on, I'm on".

  • I said I was never going to be on the treadmill

  • and here I am. I'm on the treadmill.

  • I'm going to be running like this forever.

  • Because they're good at software,

  • they need to keep pace.

  • And as a result, keeping pace means

  • to shut a lot of other things out.

  • They just don't have time to read,

  • time to hear about the world.

  • They don't have much time for their families.

  • Um, but when you're in situation where

  • you really have a lot of work to do

  • and no time to do it,

  • you know, you pick what you want.

  • Some people pick wanting to have a family.

  • Some people pick wanting to

  • get some software done.

  • Christopher was born right after I started at Netscape,

  • and I basically missed the first

  • two years of his life because of the intensity.

  • I'd work 'til about 7 or 8 o'clock,

  • come home, eat dinner,

  • put the kids to bed, and then go back to work,

  • or work from home, until 2 or 3

  • in the morning, and was like the Dad zombie.

  • He would call and say, I'm on my way home

  • and then it would be 2 or 3 hours and

  • you know, the romantic dinner candles

  • had burned down

  • and I was thinking he was dead

  • by the side of the road so,

  • you know if 24 hours goes by

  • and I don't hear from him,

  • that I pretty much know where to find him.

  • I live in Michigan. And I commute.

  • So it's quite a long commute,

  • I don't make it every day.

  • I only make it about every two weeks or so.

  • But um, It is quite a time change.

  • Here it's something like 12:01

  • in the morning, and there it's 1954.

  • The motivation from moving back here is

  • I wanted to get into a community,

  • put roots down, and you know, feel settled.

  • And I...Life is just different out there,

  • it really is. I mean here people like worked

  • car factory or whatever... thirty years and out.

  • We spent, like, 45 minutes talking about all his

  • like, his whole story, from job, to job, to job, to job.

  • I thought it was pretty cool.

  • He had like ten or something, jobs.

  • He seemed to do it a lot during particularly peak

  • stressful times, like, you know, baby due

  • in two months, I'm changing jobs now, dear.

  • I like when everything is changing.

  • That makes it's exciting. That's why I do it.

  • It's something to be in the storm,

  • right in the middle of it and seeing everything

  • new happening and putting it all together.

  • It's really exciting.

  • It's almost addictive. I wouldn't want to leave it,

  • that's for sure.

  • At times, it's a clear sacrifice

  • of elements of your personal life.

  • I have to work very hard but I have

  • the chance of being rewarded for my efforts.

  • This disadvantage, my life's moving on.

  • I don't have any children yet,

  • you realize there's a certain amount of

  • my life that I'm sacrificing I'm going to look back

  • and a portion of this life is gone.

  • In the U.S., we have at least several million people

  • directly making a living from software.

  • And it's the fastest growing group of

  • people in the economy.

  • And it's certainly in aggregate,

  • the highest paying field of its size.

  • I mean yeah, you've got baseball,

  • you've got Hollywood.

  • But you know when you really

  • think of a group that has millions of people in it,

  • these are the highest wages anybody

  • has ever seen in the United States.

  • The opportunity to win big

  • for code writers is very real.

  • In fact, that if you will jackpot

  • opportunity is reflected here on a

  • Wall Street trading desk.

  • And I find that a lot of the engineers

  • and managers from Silicon Valley

  • are very attuned to what goes on

  • on these trading floors daily.

  • By one account, 64 millionaires are created daily

  • in Sillicon Valley where any technology worker

  • can striking rich over night.

  • You join a company and they give you

  • some stock options which basically says,

  • rather than just giving you stock,

  • they give the right to buy the stock

  • in the future at the current price.

  • You might get stock in the order of

  • maybe a year's salary or

  • two years salary typically, worth of options.

  • In some of these real booming companies

  • out there on the Internet, the potential for

  • becoming a millionaire or doing very well,

  • is very, very high.

  • The people who were very,

  • very early, they call them "Mozillionaires".

  • Stock options are a con.

  • Um, it's a carrot and dangle, it's like,

  • oh well, you know if you'll give up

  • your one and only youth,

  • maybe someday you'll make money, right...

  • it's um, I've known so many people

  • who have gambled on start-up lottery

  • and got nothing.

  • You know it's just like lottery ticket, it's a stupid tax.

  • Um, I happened to win that particular lottery.

  • From the day Microsoft announced

  • its aggressive commitment to the Internet, however,

  • Netscape stock has been in steady decline,

  • and throughout most of 1998 Netscape

  • options are essentially worthless.

  • A year and a half ago,

  • half of our revenue came from browser sales.

  • Today none of it does, so well,

  • Any business person out there knows

  • that that's a huge challenge.

  • I mean let me take your number one selling product

  • away from you and you replace that

  • within period of 12 months or so.

  • Not many people want to do that.

  • Even though the company sells other Internet products,

  • the marketplace views Netscape as a browser company

  • in a losing battle with Microsoft.

  • - Greg this is Jim Barksdale with Netscape Communications, how are you ?

  • It's clear that Netscape doesn't have

  • enough pieces to threaten Microsoft.

  • I don't think that Netscape long term

  • can survive as an independent company.

  • While Mozilla tries to recapture the early,

  • glory days of the company,

  • integrating code from the outside means

  • more work for everyone on the browser team.

  • - Apparently I must have done it backwards

  • from what you told me, or I don't know what

  • - Ok, this is too fast

  • - We want to take the old free tree

  • and use it as subsection,

  • and we want to build this interesting tree around this.

  • - No that's not want we want to do

  • NS Private at the top, right ?

  • - A project file for this or project file for that,

  • it can't be a project file for both.

  • We don't have a plan for doing both.

  • So right now I have some files that have

  • to come from here for Java in a single directory,

  • and some files that have to come from here

  • in the same directory, the same directory.

  • Tell me how I do that?

  • That's the problem.

  • The browser division which costs the company

  • almost 30 million dollars a year to operate

  • and contributes few revenues to the company

  • is reorganized in the fall for the second time

  • in less than a year.

  • Do we have all the answers: No.

  • We're going to try and learn what we can from

  • seeing the people who've done this well...

  • When I joined a start-up, I knew that 19 out of 20 fail.

  • When an employee comes

  • to work at Netscape today,

  • he doesn't have the perception

  • that there's a 19 out of 20 chance

  • that this job is not gonna be in place

  • 1 to 5 years from now.

  • If you live here, it is the ubiquitous conversation

  • "Do you believe that Microsoft

  • has used either a) illegal

  • or just unfair methods

  • to take market share from Netscape?"

  • And if the heart and soul of this industry is

  • opportunity, is egalitarianism, Microsoft having

  • achieved its market share

  • on anything other than the backs of its code

  • really riles every body up.

  • Justice department has charged Microsoft

  • with engaging an anti-competitive and exclusionary practises

  • designed to maintain its monopoly in personal computer operating systems

  • and attempting to extend that monopoly to Internet browser software.

  • Regardless of its case against Microsoft,

  • Netscape has become a victim of its increasing size Regardless of its case against Microsoft,

  • Netscape has become a victim of its increasing size

  • and the growing complexities of its code,

  • the company struggles to maintain the vitality

  • it enjoyed as a start-up.

  • When a company gets to be above a certain size,

  • it's just a process, it's a mechanism for making money.

  • And innovation is like one possible way of doing that,

  • but it's a risky way.

  • So companies, big companies don't do that.

  • Um, Microsoft actually doesn't do very much, they buy companies.

  • They wait until someone has done something interesting and then they acquire them,

  • and then they milk it for all it's worth.

  • I don't mean to pick on Microsoft because lots of companies do that, it's just the normal way of doing business.

  • We're on out way to the Flint Center now.

  • We're going to have an all-hands meeting.

  • Jim Barksdale has moved up the all hands meeting by roughly about a week.

  • We just announce quarterly results and now this major change in direction.

  • Well, in case you haven't read the newspaper,

  • we have, as of 1:30 this morning,

  • concluded negotiations and agreed to sell our company to AOL of Dulles, Virginia.

  • I can't imagine that day when they announced the merger,

  • that they weren't like "Oh, I don't believe this".

  • You know, sort of a nightmare scenario.

  • Although, you know, the worst one would have been

  • Microsoft's buying us, I guess, you know.

  • Then they would have, you know you would've seen like

  • his this flow of cars out of Netscape

  • Six months ago they were insulting AOL's technology,

  • you know, it was the service for idiots.

  • "Congratulations skippy, you've got mail!"

  • Netscape is not unusual in the way they felt about AOL in Silicon Valley.

  • I mean, it's very clear that nobody

  • had any respect for the company.

  • One of them at Netscape

  • called Steve Case a soap salesman

  • because he used to work at Proctor and Gamble.

  • The soap salesman bought them.

  • The quote that came out of this article was

  • "Netscape: (similar lines of) lived fast,

  • died young, and left a tired corpse".

  • And I don't know they agree with that.

  • I don't think Netscape's done yet.

  • They bought us because they like us,

  • they like what we do,

  • and they don't want to disturb that formula;

  • so their plan is to not damage us in any way.

  • There had been alot of, uh,

  • a lot of speculation out on the net,

  • you know, in the free software community, like

  • oh well this is it, you know,

  • it's all over now

  • "AOL's just gonna screw everything up".

  • So I wrote this thing

  • that I put on the Mozilla.org site

  • that just laid out the worst case scenario,

  • like, well okay,

  • even if everything goes wrong

  • it's still not as bad as you're saying it is.

  • Because the nature of what Netscape did

  • meant that the code belongs to the community now.

  • Few days later I got email from Steve Case,

  • saying, um, we thing that you're doing is great thing and

  • and it's part of the reason we bought the company

  • we plan to keep it going that way, so

  • um, as far as Mozilla.org and Netscape and AOL's contribution

  • to the open-source movement goes,

  • he says, it's gonna continue...

  • The merger with AOL creates a windfall for shareholders

  • that will give Netscape employees the chance to cash out and move on,

  • causing speculation in the national media

  • about AOL's ability to retain Netscape's key people.

  • And already I hear, you know,

  • that AOL people come at Netscape and say,

  • yeah this is the AOL way.

  • It's not gonna work at Netscape.

  • It's gonna be the Netscape way with help from AOL!

  • I suspect some of them will leave.

  • You know, they don't want to be part of AOL.

  • Some people just like the start-up mentality.

  • And those that want to be part of a juggernaut

  • are going to stay and be part of the juggernaut.

  • I've been at Netscape for 3 and a half years and it feels like forever.

  • And AOL's focus and Netscape's growing focus has been marketing and advertising,

  • all that stuff, and that's

  • not nearly as interesting

  • to someone who's sort of a techno-fetishist.

  • I'm switching jobs and selling my house,

  • I'm moving, switching towns...

  • That's life for start-up land.

  • I'm still young and stupid as I like to put it,

  • so I can get away with that stuff like that.

  • Year and a half ago, so Tara comes to me she says

  • "I want to be a manager so bad, that I can taste it".

  • So we finally said alright, you get to be a manager.

  • And like within a week she said

  • "Why did you ever let me do this?"

  • And Tara has turned out to be like one of Netscape's greatest managers.

  • So here is to Tara, release team manager.

  • Tara leaves Netscape for an e-commerce start-up,

  • missing out on a big jump in the value of her stock options

  • in hopes for a bigger pay out at her new company.

  • Regardless of how AOL runs the Netscape business,

  • it's not Netscape anymore - that part's over.

  • And you know, that's really sad

  • I wish Netscape could have gone it on their own.

  • Frustrated by what he perceives as a lack of commitment to open-source development,

  • Jamie quits Netscape one year to the day he helped to give away Mozilla.

  • The movie Hackers I think is just a great movie.

  • I wish our lives were like that,

  • I wish we were roller skating around in spandex and fighting bad guys,

  • but you know it's not it's sitting in a room and typing all day.

  • This is what I was trying to escape, this life.

  • I knew I did not want to live here.

  • I've been out here now about four of five years.

  • This is a nice place. This is escape from the jungle.

  • Jim Roskind is promoted to Netscape's highest engineering rank.

  • Last night I was here at four in the morning,

  • and this isn't even in the middle of a critical push.

  • But it's almost like an addiction, an adrenaline rush,

  • a going for perfection, a pushing.

  • And then as you see the results, you get the feedback to push harder.

  • You know I really shouldn't comment on this

  • since I'm just as foolish as everyone else is

  • but I'll just go ahead and do it while admitting that I'm foolish,

  • there's just a tremendous quest for material wealth here.

  • It's like the goldrush all over again.

  • And this is gonna be the playhouse.

  • And then this will be like a front porch I think a little flowers and stuff.

  • So it will be like a cute little house.

  • I went to Netscape because its main purpose was to generate cash,

  • based on this Internet thing.

  • It's like what we're gonna do, we're gonna get rich.

  • It just took a heavy toll on our marriage,

  • and, if it wasn't for God's grace,

  • we wouldn't have made it.

  • "Why would I use god gives"

  • Micheal burned out.

  • Micheal, came to a place, in his own life where he said the cost is too great,

  • I'm not gonna do it anymore.

  • If people are - would look at this and say oh

  • hey this is a cool thing, I'm gonna start a start-up

  • and get rich quick

  • I would just have to say

  • you need to count the costs

  • because you can't ever retrieve the time that's lost.

  • Michael Toy

  • Netscape employee number 6

  • achieved his goal of financial independance

  • and retired from Netscape shortly after Mozilla's release.

  • In the Valley,

  • if you've stayed someplace longer than about three years

  • people wonder what's going on?

  • Why can't you get another job, what's wrong with you?

  • If you're a programmer, you pretty much change jobs

  • about every two years or so.

  • It's like ants,

  • worker ants.

  • They send out a group out to do something.

  • As that group approaches

  • the task that they're gonna do

  • some ants leave, more ants come on

  • By the time it gets to the target

  • it could be a totally different set of ants

  • I think as we distribute the set of work that we're doing

  • and more and more, in the Information Age

  • it'll be more like that.

  • Scott Collins continues to commute to Netscape from Michigan.

  • There's lot of pressure right now

  • to complete our product on time.

  • Um, sort of wade in with

  • the ridiculous acrobatics the stock is doing.

  • We were a 20$ company

  • and as of this moment our stock is at 172$.

  • So it's hard to be depressed about the amount of work

  • you have to do when

  • every other cube holds a millionnaire.

  • When the deal with AOL closes in the Spring of 1999

  • the value of Netscape's stock more than doubled since the merger's announcement.

  • Netscape married right.

  • They hitched their fortunes to AOL

  • when the transaction was announced,

  • the implied valuation was about 4.2 billion

  • when transaction was completed,

  • the transaction was valued at 10 billion.

  • So in effect about 5.5 or 6 billion dollars

  • of net worth was created

  • so I think it was the very clever deal-making

  • of Netscape management that kept them in the game

  • much longer and Netscape's shareholders benefited quite considerably.

  • Mo-

  • -zill-

  • -la

  • lives !

  • While many executives sold their stock

  • during Netscape's final year

  • Barksdale bought more

  • and after the merger he swapped his shares

  • for more than half a billion dollars of AOL stock.

  • Another young man comes west

  • to seek his fortune on technology's new frontier.

  • I'm a little bit nervous going into this interview,

  • cause I'm not entirely sure what to expect.

  • It's a long way away

  • Three thousand miles

  • is a long way for your child to be

  • But this is a place where there's a lot going on that

  • he's very interested in and I think

  • has some talents in this area.

  • And I really think that this may be

  • kind of home for him as far as

  • being able to work with people

  • that he can actually talk to.

  • - Pavlov!

  • - What I want to know is,

  • what you want to do

  • I mean, what your goals are in the next couple of years?

  • - My goal right now

  • is that I want to see the UNIX version faster than the Windows version.

  • Once you pull that off,

  • then, you know, we'll see.

  • But that's my goal.

  • Pavlov is hired by Netscape.

  • He postpones going to college.

  • Taking part in what one investor has called the largest

  • legal creation of wealth in the history of the planet,

  • David Readerman moves to a new investment bank.

  • Here's the data center,

  • a lot of cable, a lot of fiber.

  • These can be sort of, you know, Internet connections

  • they can be our trading lines, our phone lines.

  • You know we're lying the infrastructure

  • to basically build a major merchant bank.

  • Our view is that the Internet changes everything

  • and we're going to finance the companies

  • that want to be the agents of that change.

  • Look at this intersection,

  • we've got a bank here,

  • in two years you know this may not be here,

  • why not bank online?

  • Gap's website

  • is one of the most successful commerce websites

  • on the market.

  • I don't even know why Gap's renovating this store?

  • Why aren't they investing more in their website?

  • I don't know what this intersection may look two years from now.

  • When I started people didn't know what HTML was,

  • what the World Wide Web was, and then all of a sudden

  • the power of the Internet that had been there

  • for years was available to everybody

  • in an easy way, Point & click, the universal language.

  • It's like in Fantasia when Mickey is standing over

  • the book that's open on the mountain,

  • and he's looking in to see what to do

  • and he does something. And he doesn't really know what he does

  • but it makes something happen.

  • And of course this thing gets out of control and keeps going.

  • You don't know why it works, you don't know how it works,

  • you just push a button and it works.

  • We're at the beginning of an industry and

  • who knows where that industry's gonna go?

  • This could all turn into television again.

  • It could be controlled by a small number of

  • companies who decide what we see and hear.

  • And there's a lot of precedent for that.

  • I'm just laying down the tracks

  • and there were these trains zooming by me,

  • and there's no way I'd want to say it's a

  • bad thing to have these trains fly by.

  • I could be a horrible legacy.

  • If it ended up being a legacy of,

  • you know, Netscape and the Internet,

  • that we could all like,

  • do what we're doing only under

  • much more intense pressure and

  • much faster.

  • Everything has to change faster,

  • obviously, you know, look at Netscape.

  • It was born and died.

  • I don't want to use the word "died", they wouldn't like that word.

  • But basically it was born and overtaken

  • within four years.

  • That's pretty fast, I think.

  • They must think it's very fast.

  • Near the end of 1999,

  • the public still awaits Netscape's

  • first open source browser,

  • more than a year after Mozilla was released.

  • The judge and the justice department

  • end a trust trial rules that Microsoft

  • is a monopoly, it stiffles innovation.

  • AOL begins the millenium

  • with a new even larger aquisition,

  • and investors continue buying technology stocks,

  • which trade with increasing volatility.

  • Still as the Internet finds its way

  • into every corner of daily life,

  • so, too will legions of programmers

  • and their code, working fast

  • and late into the night.

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