Name: The Judgement of Starclan – Sunny's Spiel | Warriors Analysis
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Blanket warning that this episode will contain spoilers for all of the Broken Code, including

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It isn't sectioned off since its material is far more woven into my discussion today,

so if you're still avoiding spoilers, I would come back to this one at a later time.

At this point, it's difficult to find a single Warriors fan who doesn't know the

We have Starclan, the body of most dead warriors who get to live in happiness and harmony forever

among endless high levels of prey and perfect weather and also where they get to receive

prophecies and omens which they can then talk about and pass down to the living if and when

We also have the Dark Forest, a place where all the cats who were...excluded from Starclan

go, whatever the reason for that exclusion.

If you are sent to the Dark Forest instead of Starclan upon your death, you are doomed

to an eternity in a dark and barren forest with no prey, endless danger, and either the

company of various tyrants and murderers or, if you happen to be there before the Power

of Three arc, forced to be alone forever, unable to meet a single other cat.

This seems like a pretty darn awful situation to find yourself in for the rest of existence...or

until you fade away from being forgotten or are drowned in an insta-death pool depending

So let's take a look at exactly how these worlds are utilised.

Obviously, the Dark Forest is meant to be a punishment.

No matter which incarnation of the world you find yourself in, the cats sent to the Dark

Forest are there because of something they did wrong.

They were deemed to be bad cats based on their actions in life, and were therefore punished

But, of course, we know that judgement isn't applied evenly or objectively.

Even before canon adopted the lore of literal trials where a few biased cats choose whether

or not to let someone into Starclan, it was clear from the fact that cats like Ashfur,

Mudclaw, and Clear Sky got into Starclan that there was more personal choice going on than

Since it *isn't* an objective, all-knowing judgement of your soul that puts you in one

afterlife or the other, one should conclude that it is possible for mistakes to be made,

or even for changes to occur in a cat after death that would change how they would be

For this example, I think it's time I turned to what finally spurred me to make this video:

the Broken Code, especially its last two books, The Place of No Stars and A Light in the Mist.

While we saw that someone like Mudclaw stopped being a threat when he died and realized the

truth he had been unable or unwilling to see in life, Ashfur's warped views only got

stronger in death, and he never gave up on his singular goal of getting Squirrelflight

and getting back at everyone who he perceived as slighting him.

This, and the evil actions that followed, are things that would probably land a cat

in the Dark Forest, and after his death Starclan admits that letting him into their ranks was

However, a truly astronomical level of cognitive dissonance is clearly at play, because on

the other hand we have many of the Dark Forest cats, including Snowtuft, who has completely

forgotten whatever evil deed put him there in the first place and is now just a fun tom

who actively chose not to join with Ashfur and helps Rootspring, Shadowsight, and the

others take him down, Juniperclaw, who we actually saw redeeming himself *before* his

death, not unlike Hollyleaf, and who hasn't done a single bad thing since, and a boatload

of other cats who have long since abandoned or stopped caring about the evil drives that

brought them to the Dark Forest and work instead to help take down Ashfur and hopefully reunite

with their friends and family in Starclan.

These cats, by and large, *do not deserve* an eternity in the Dark Forest, but when the

question of actually allowing them into Starclan is presented at the end of A Light in the

Mist, it is considered just a fact of life that they won't ever be able to cross over,

and that the place where you are sent when you die is where you should and will live

We have first-hand admittance that there can be mistakes made.

We have seen first-hand that cats can change after death, for better or worse.

There is no reason to believe that, in a world where those two facts are in place, the rules

for eternal prosperity or punishment should be finite and unchanging.

If a cat, even in death, is doing horrible things and disrupting the safety of the dead

and / or living cats, they should be punished accordingly, not given the same benefits as

every nice queen, medicine cat, or deputy who simply wants to live out their days in

Likewise, if a cat has proven that they have understood their deeds to be wrong and worked

to change, especially if, in the process, they actively helped to save the clans, then

they should be allowed into Starclan, not forced to experience eternal torment in the

Dark Forest for crimes long passed, and not guarding the barrier between the two afterlives

without actually being allowed into paradise themselves.

Assuming that cats are capable of change after death, and we have continuously seen proof

that they are, judgement should flat-out not be finite.

I have heard arguments in the past that some of these cats don't deserve forgiveness,

either because their deeds were too horrible for them to ever deserve Starclan, or because

they personally slighted another cat and that cat wouldn't, and shouldn't be expected

I'll go over these arguments individually but as an overarching point: *Forgiveness

First of all, the idea that a cat is so evil or has done something so horrible that they

can never be trusted and should never be let into Starclan is...flawed.

Certainly there are some cats like Tigerstar, Mapleshade, or Brokenstar who never saw the

error of their ways and in fact only got worse and more eager for destruction over time,

but this isn't the case for all, or even the majority of the cats who end up in the

And if there is even a single cat (of the perhaps ten to twenty that may reside there)

who doesn't deserve to be tortured, should we keep this system in place without any alteration?

Redemption is not a matter of erasing one's past deeds.

It's about moving past those mistakes, understanding why they were wrong, who they hurt, what led

you to them, and working to improve yourself until you wouldn't do those things again.

Knowing that cats can, and have changed, what should be judged isn't who they were, or

more accurately, who some sector Starclan thought they were, upon their death.

It is who they are today, in the present, how they have grown, and what they will likely

choose to do with the rest of their futures.

I can't see Snowtuft, Silverhawk, Juniperclaw, or the others going on to commit more atrocities,

given the cats we saw they were and the deeds they did in the Broken Code.

Punishing someone is really only helpful insofar as it keeps danger away and proves to the

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