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INTERVIEWER: (VOICEOVER) One of the big players in that world,

someone I'm told moves more than a million

worth of product daily, has agreed to meet me--

well, kind of.

INTERVIEWER: OK, we ready?

GEORGE: Yep.

So I'm currently in an empty room and in front of a table

with nine pounds of all sorts of different kinds of weed.

George, I'm just explaining what's

happening to the cameras.

Because it feels really weird that it's just me here so

I'm just explaining.

GEORGE: Yep.

INTERVIEWER: (VOICEOVER) George didn't

want his actual voice recorded.

George is actually out of view.

He didn't feel comfortable being on camera,

but he can hear me because of my mic.

INTERVIEWER: (VOICEOVER) So we're using a voice changer

that alters it while he speaks.

If I were a buyer, I would come in here.

You'd have all these bags out here

with the different samples.

They'd look at it, smell it, possibly try it, smoke it.

GEORGE: Some will smoke it, but it's really just,

you know, based off the smell, mainly

the smell, then the look.

And then they place orders.

Is that it?

GEORGE: Yep.

INTERVIEWER: (VOICEOVER) On the table

is a variety of high end exotic indoor and outdoor weed.

Each pound bag costs between $2,000 and $4,000.

What's the largest order you've ever received?

GEORGE: I mean, they'll go up to hundreds of pounds.

INTERVIEWER: (VOICEOVER) Just one order that size is

worth around a million dollars.

INTERVIEWER: How much money is there

to be made in illegal weed?

GEORGE: Oh, endless, endless amounts.

I shouldn't really be talking about this to someone

for camera.

INTERVIEWER: (VOICEOVER) I decide not to push it.

So George, you operate just a black market business?

Or do you operate also a legal business?

GEORGE: Licensed as well.

Licensed as well.

If you were to give me a general sense of how much money you

make with your legal versus your illegal business,

what would you say?

GEORGE: Well, technically, I haven't made profit

off my legal business yet.

Wow.

GEORGE: They try to kill you with fees,

taxes, regulations, hoops to jump through, inspections.

They go 10 times overboard than any other business.

I wish for them to do the same regulation

to an alcohol company.

So why operate a legal business if you're not

even making money out of that?

GEORGE: For the love of it.

Why do artists like to paint?

Or why does a singer like to sing?

I roll with the punches now and just hanging in there

so that big business doesn't just take

all the original people out.

You know, you don't feel comfortable with even

being in the same room.

Why do you think there's so much fear and mistrust?

GEORGE: It's kind of ingrained in our culture.

You can't really trust people.

And that just comes with money and greed.

And when people are greedy, bad things happen.

Do you carry a gun?

GEORGE: I have guns.

Robberies happen left and right.

In a situation if you get robbed,

you really have no choice but to use it.