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  • - Hello, this is Jack from tofluency.com along with Kate.

  • And today we're going to talk about,

  • well, you introduced the topic today.

  • - Yes, so today's topic is going to be.

  • one that I came up with.

  • It's Online Shopping.

  • - Online shopping. - Mm-hmm.

  • - Yeah, and we've made a list

  • of a few different topics around this

  • where I'm going to talk about a couple of my recent orders.

  • - Mm-hmm

  • - The a trending online shopping.

  • And also things like meal delivery services, too.

  • - Mm-hmm. - Okay.

  • - Before we get started too much,

  • I had these on but there is a little bit too much glare.

  • This is where the conversation came from.

  • These are my new glasses.

  • - Mm-hmm

  • - I ordered them online.

  • I just picked out the style, uploaded my subscription.

  • And a week later I had some glasses.

  • - Oh your prescription. - Mm-hmm.

  • Yeah, not subscription. - Yeah, yeah.

  • - Prescription

  • - So, yeah, glasses prescription is basically telling how

  • strong you need them.

  • What kind of lenses to make.

  • - Mm-hmm. - Yeah.

  • And I think that's an interesting place to start

  • because if you think back 10 years

  • the thought of getting glasses online.

  • - Yeah

  • - Because when online shopping started

  • people thought, okay, it's gonna be

  • for items that you don't need to try on.

  • - Mm-hmm.

  • - But companies that got around this

  • by allowing you to try things on for free

  • as long as you give them your credit card details.

  • So, just today, I'm going to get some new glasses.

  • So I've ordered five pairs

  • and they're going to deliver these to our house.

  • I'm gonna try them on, choose my favorite one,

  • send them all back,

  • and then they'll put the right lenses in.

  • - Mm-hmm.

  • - But I think that's a good example

  • of something that you just never thought was gonna happen.

  • - Yeah, no way. - Yeah.

  • - Yeah, all sorts of things.

  • Like we bought a mattress online a few years ago.

  • - Mm-hmm

  • They had an amazing refund policy.

  • - Uh-huh. - Do you remember?

  • - Yeah, so they took all the risk out,

  • so you could get the mattress

  • and then if you didn't like it, you could return it.

  • - Mm-hmm.

  • - No questions asked.

  • - Yeah. - Or donate it.

  • - No, you could donate it to charity.

  • - Uh-huh. - And you get your money back.

  • - Yep.

  • - I wonder if they still do that?

  • - I think so.

  • I think that's a pretty key part of their model

  • because you don't want to spend hundreds of dollars,

  • or even now a larger mattresses, a thousand.

  • Give or take- - Yeah.

  • - And not know if you'll like it.

  • - Yeah, so do you do a lot of online shopping?

  • - Do you? (chuckles)

  • - We both do, don't we? - Yeah.

  • - Yeah. - We do.

  • - And it's just become such a convenience now.

  • - Mm-hmm.

  • - With fast shipping times, refund policies.

  • I think I might've this before,

  • but what if my new year's resolution

  • for 2020 was not to go to the grocery store more

  • than five times a year.

  • - Mm-hmm.

  • - Because I got used to grocery shopping online

  • and getting it delivered.

  • And then the Corona virus hit.

  • And everyone was online shopping anyway.

  • And you couldn't get any times available.

  • - Yeah, so you were ahead of the curve, but then the curve-

  • - The curve did something incredible.

  • Yeah, so there's so many things you can get online now,

  • but I think we need to talk about the one website

  • that's really taken over here in the US.

  • - Mm-hmm.

  • - Probably I think in the UK and other parts of Europe.

  • - I think in the world- - In the world.

  • - Really.

  • Yeah, actually that's a great question for today.

  • Is amazon.com popular where you live?

  • And do you use this website to buy things online?

  • I remember they started out by just having books, right?

  • - Mm-hmm.

  • - So it was an online bookstore.

  • - It was.

  • - And do you remember one of their tactics

  • to increase their customer base?

  • - I don't.

  • - So, I think it was the bookstore Borders.

  • - Uh-huh.

  • - Which used to be very popular.

  • - Yes.

  • - And they said to Borders,

  • "okay we can ship your books around the US

  • for a very low price if we get the customer data".

  • And Borders said, "yes, that sounds amazing".

  • And they thought, "I think this is right".

  • I'll leave a link to an article about this.

  • So you can read about it.

  • And Borders thought,

  • "yeah, this is great. We're getting a great deal"

  • because Amazon's taking care of all of this for us.

  • But little by little that customer list went to Amazon.

  • Amazon sent them emails, follow-ups,

  • then people were buying from the Amazon store.

  • - That makes sense, yeah.

  • - I'm sort of done stuff like that all the time.

  • But I was thinking about Amazon as well

  • because there's a push back

  • against it because it's a big store.

  • - Mm-hmm.

  • - It takes over, and it's killing independent stores,

  • independent bookstores.

  • But I was thinking about this because we also

  • know people who create stuff and they use Amazon

  • and they love Amazon.

  • - Mm-hmm. - To sell that items

  • around the country.

  • - Yeah.

  • - So it also supports people who want

  • to use a fully integrated logistical system.

  • - Mm-hmm.

  • - To sell stuff and deliver stuff online.

  • - Yeah, we have a few friends who have opened Amazon stores,

  • selling various things.

  • Some of them have broken even,

  • some of them have been really successful with it.

  • - Mm-hmm. - A few people have not,

  • but it is definitely a force to be reckoned with,

  • especially after last year.

  • - Yeah, oh yeah.

  • Last year, well, I mean,

  • we know people in our neighborhood and ourselves-

  • - Mm-hmm.

  • - When everyone was stuck at home,

  • people ordered things that maybe they didn't need,

  • we didn't need, but thinking if we were gonna be

  • at home all this time, then let's make it fun.

  • Let's make it exciting and have good stuff to do.

  • - Yeah, what was one example of that?

  • - Like, well, we know people who got hot tubs?

  • - Mm-hmm.

  • - Swimming pools. - Mm-hmm.

  • - Or, you know, we got a little paddling pool.

  • - I think that actually was from beforehand.

  • - A paddle pool. - But we did...

  • I did get a lot of books.

  • - Yeah. (chuckles)

  • - You got chickens in a chicken coop.

  • - I did, but I did not get those from Amazon.

  • - No, but you got it online, right?

  • - I did. - Yeah.

  • So everyone was buying things online-

  • - Mm-hmm.

  • - And then there was a shortage of certain items, too.

  • - Yeah.

  • - But yeah, Amazon is definitely taken over here,

  • and people have that, "ugh, I don't want to use it

  • because such a big company is taken over".

  • But the convenience seems to win out.

  • - Mm-hmm. - Yeah.

  • - It does.

  • - Yeah, online shopping.

  • So, in the past it used to be books.

  • We used to buy books online.

  • Also, Netflix just used to be DVDs delivery, right?

  • - Yes, I remember you got to order, was it five?

  • - Yeah.

  • - I think five sticks in my head as a number,

  • and they would come, and you could watch the DVDs,

  • and then return them.

  • - Mm-hmm, instead of going to your local store-

  • - Yes

  • - And getting the DVDs from there.

  • - Uh-huh.

  • - So, there is this move towards people buying things

  • at home online and they can get it delivered.

  • So Amazon has taken over.

  • I've just bought a new cap, which I'm very excited about.

  • (both chuckles)

  • - You're probably gonna get to see this cap.

  • Because I think once it arrives,

  • well, either you're gonna love it,

  • or you're gonna hate it.

  • - Yeah - But if you love it,

  • I don't think you're gonna take it off.

  • - I'm doing Instagram, or go to Fluency on Instagram.

  • - Uh-huh.

  • - And then you can see the new cap once it arrives.

  • - It's something else.

  • - It's a little bit different.

  • - Yeah, it's very, very style...

  • Bold stylishly.

  • - Yeah. - Yeah.

  • - But it was something that I wanted to treat myself,

  • and that's the one thing...

  • But it was more expensive than I'm willing to spend.

  • But you were laughing a little bit

  • because in terms of, you know, the overall prices.

  • - Well, for how much you wanted this hat and, how...

  • So, can I say the price of it or-

  • - No. - No, okay.

  • - No, they'll have to go on Instagram to find out.

  • - To find out.

  • For the price of the hat,

  • you have been agonizing about this for weeks.

  • - I would say agonizing.

  • - I would say agonizing.

  • (both chuckles)

  • - I just won today. - I was just...

  • Sometimes I see you looking at your phone-

  • - They keep targeting me on Instagram.

  • - Oh, that's the other thing.

  • - Yes. - Instagram shopping.

  • - Yep, Instagram shopping has become very popular now.

  • - Uh-huh.

  • - Yeah, so this is where you get targeted

  • with ads for certain things.

  • And for example, I'll buy a shirt like this,

  • or look up a shirt like this,

  • and then suddenly every other ad is,

  • "hey, what about this shirt?", "what about this shirt?",

  • from all different companies.

  • Not just the company I was looking at.

  • - Mm-hmm, you know what I find really annoying?

  • - Go on.

  • - Have you ever been looking

  • for something for a really long time?

  • - Mm-hmm. - You finally decided

  • to buy it.

  • You pull the trigger. - Mm-hmm.

  • - So you actually buy it online.

  • - And yeah, pull the trigger, that's a good one.

  • - And then you keep on seeing ad, after ad,

  • after ad for that same thing, only better,

  • and less expensive - Mm-hmm.

  • - And better reviewed and it'll come faster and you just...

  • - Yeah. = It's really frustrating.

  • - Well, you can't win it all-

  • - No - Win them all.

  • But, yeah, I mean, it's not like we buy too much on them.

  • We go through phases, don't we, really?

  • - Yeah.

  • - Like how we go through a phase

  • in spring when I get my summer clubs out

  • and think, "I didn't really wear that last year,

  • I didn't wear this,

  • I didn't wear that".

  • And I'll donate those clothes,

  • and maybe buy three or four new T-shirts for the year.

  • But I do have a little bit of a problem

  • at the moment with something.

  • - What? - Books?

  • - Oh yeah, mm-hmm?

  • - And there's a meme isn't there that I showed you?

  • - Yeah.

  • - What a person's looking at,

  • or the the woman is looking at the guy to say like,

  • "all the books that I've bought recently",

  • and then a guy... "and not read".

  • And then the guy's looking at "oh, new book".

  • - Yep. - Yeah.

  • - I think it's called like your, "to be read pile"?

  • - Yeah, I've got a big pile, and the big thick books.

  • - I know.

  • - And the hard books to read.

  • (both chuckles)

  • - They're like college books are classics.

  • So, yeah.

  • - But I'm using thrift books for that.

  • - Well, you...

  • I've always had a book.

  • - Just leave it down.

  • - I've always had a lot of books,

  • and had a really hard time getting rid of books.

  • - Yes, and I go through phases as well thinking,

  • "I should get digital books

  • because they don't take up space and it's more minimalist",

  • but trying to reduce screen time, therefore...

  • And I don't like...

  • I prefer a proper book to read

  • rather than a digital one.

  • - Mm-hmm. - Yeah.

  • - I got really hooked on digital books though.

  • Especially when the kids were little.

  • - Mmmm.

  • - And they would fall asleep in my lap,

  • and I couldn't really move,

  • or I was taking care of them.

  • And so it was so easy to pull out my phone

  • and pull up a book- - It wasn't easy.

  • - And just scroll like this

  • - Because with our first child,

  • - Mm-hmm. - You only had a laptop.

  • - That's true.

  • - We didn't have phones.

  • - Oh my gosh, did I read on my laptop?

  • - Yes.

  • - I've read them on my laptop.

  • - Do you remember that?

  • - So it must've been like balancing my laptop,

  • and Thomas and...

  • - Because we got a phone when I think Thomas was about one.

  • - Yeah.

  • - Because it would just put it off, and put it off.

  • - Yeah, we didn't bother. - Because we knew this world.

  • - We knew it was gonna take over, and it has.

  • - Yeah.

  • - And that's the podcast episode you can listen to.

  • I'll leave a link in the description.

  • Where I talk about social media, and phones,

  • and how they've taken over.

  • And there's no going back.

  • There's no going button now.

  • - I don't know, that's a little bit...

  • I mean, there's no completely going back,

  • but I think that there's a way

  • to get some more healthy boundaries-

  • - Yes, - Around using a phone.

  • - But the trend is gonna be more and more.

  • Like phones, wearables, voice, you know, everything else.

  • - Mm-hmm.

  • - Face recognition.

  • - I talked to someone today who gave me a phone number,

  • and she wrote it down on a scrap of paper

  • because she didn't have a smartphone.

  • - Oh, really?

  • - Uh-huh, and that is so uncommon where we are.

  • - Well, it was uncommon when we didn't have them.

  • - Yeah, like- - Everyone couldn't believe...

  • No one can...

  • - Everyone had a smartphone - Six years ago.

  • - Uh-huh. - And we didn't, did we?.

  • - Yeah, and then we were so busy.

  • I didn't know how to use mine.

  • (chuckles)

  • I was teaching 13 year olds and 14 year olds.

  • And I would make videos

  • of their class presentations, or assignments.

  • And they would have to show me how to use my phone.

  • They told me like, "you can rotate your phone".

  • And I had no idea. I had no idea.

  • - Yeah. - Mm-hmm.

  • - So, anyway, so yeah, the books I got at the moment are

  • from thrift books, which are secondhand,

  • which I feel better about. (chuckles)

  • And I'm trying also clothes.

  • I tried to get them from eBay

  • second hand too. - Oh yeah?

  • - I try to buy second hand clothes.

  • - Yeah, especially because...

  • That's the thing, isn't it?

  • Because with clothes shopping, bored on online

  • you don't know if it's gonna fit you.

  • - Mm-hmm.

  • - And I think they'd know that a certain percentage

  • of people, or a certain percentage of orders,

  • won't come back because people miss the date,

  • mainly us, too - Yep.

  • - We're not good at sending things back-

  • - No. - Are we?

  • - Not at all.

  • - But with eBay, if you know your size, you know the item,

  • then you can go on eBay and save 50%.

  • - Yeah. - True.

  • - And then I want to talk about meal delivery services.

  • - Mm-hmm.

  • - Because I never thought, I would never ever thought

  • that this would have happened.

  • (chuckles)

  • Where you just get food delivered to your door.

  • - Yeah. - We use a local company now.

  • - Uh-huh. - And-

  • - Called Mother Earth Produce.

  • - Yeah.

  • - Cure in the Asheville area. - Mm-hmm.

  • - And they deliver from local produce companies,

  • and different...

  • Like, you can get milk, you can get other things,

  • but mainly vegetables at the moment.

  • - Mm-hmm.

  • - But there's also nationwide ones

  • that are now doing very, very well.

  • Meal delivery is huge.

  • And also just ordering from a restaurant

  • on an app is so popular now.

  • - Oh yeah.

  • And people have kind of like,

  • there's a personal shopper.

  • Do you know what I'm talking about?

  • - So people- - For clothes?

  • - Or for groceries.

  • - For groceries?

  • - As well. - Oh yeah, yeah.

  • That's massive.

  • It's unbelievable.

  • - That was very rare,

  • but for last year. - But that's what I was using.

  • - Uh-huh.

  • And it used to be my little secret.

  • (chuckles)

  • - I personally liked the experience

  • of going grocery shopping.

  • I like to look at the tomatoes.

  • I like to smell them. - Mm-hmm.

  • - I like to... (chuckles)

  • - I mean, not too much, but you know, enough,

  • waft, waft them, you know, pick them up and look at them.

  • Find the best ones.

  • - No wonder you take so long. - I can have, like...

  • I know, I go into the grocery store and it's like,

  • I'm going into like hunting, and gathering mode.

  • - Mm-hmm.

  • - Like I'm completely in the zone.

  • - Yeah, I think we're different now

  • because I just like to know what I want.

  • Have the list already done. - Mm-hmm.

  • - And just go da, da, da, da, da, da.

  • It takes like three minutes.

  • - That's nice. - Yeah, it is nice.

  • - Yeah. - Yeah.

  • - I don't know, I have like a map of the grocery store

  • in my head though. - Mm-hmm.

  • And so, you know, I could probably go grocery shopping

  • in my sleep. - Mm-hmm.

  • - Except Trader Joe's, changes it up a lot.

  • - Do they? - Mm-hmm.

  • - Oh, they do quite often, don't they?

  • - Mm-hmm.

  • - I don't like it when they change it up.

  • - I've started to crave that excitement.

  • I used to highly dislike it, and they haven't-

  • (chuckles) - Crave that excitement.

  • - I know, I'm also a little bit addicted to Trader Joe's.

  • The grocery store. - Yeah.

  • - I used to resist it.

  • They would come out with like,

  • they would take away my favorite pasta, for example, and put

  • out a new one, and I would be so disappointed and upset.

  • But now I'm like, "oh, what kind of pasta do we have now?"

  • - Mm-hmm. - Like...

  • I get really excited about that.

  • - Yeah, good.

  • Well, yeah, I prefer just to do it online

  • and then also get the meat from the local farm here.

  • - Mm-hmm. - And they...

  • I used to like go into the store

  • but now they're doing the whole,

  • wait in your car,

  • do the order the day before,

  • and they'll just put it in your trunk,

  • but you have to go to the...

  • And they do delivery too, yeah.

  • - Now- - Go on, you've got something,

  • - Yeah. - you got...

  • - Well, I have a question. - Uh-huh.

  • - Because one thing about online shopping,

  • are subscriptions. - Mm-hmm.

  • - So a lot of times when you are buying something

  • you're not just buying one item.

  • A very common business model for online shopping,

  • is that the stores have you get a subscription

  • where every single month, or week,

  • or after a period of time, maybe a season.

  • - Yep.

  • - You get a new item delivered.

  • - Yeah, they're doing this for...

  • I mean Wine clubs are really popular now.

  • - Mm-hmm.

  • - Yeah, our friend just started one.

  • So, check it out in the description.

  • We'll leave a link to it.

  • And they do other things too.

  • - What? (chuckles)

  • - I just...

  • - Oh, he's fine, he's just fine.

  • - So, the Wine clubs,

  • yet subscription is for everything, like meat.

  • There's a big one for me as well.

  • I think it's called Butcher Box.

  • There is, oh you go on, couldn't you?

  • I'm struggling for examples.

  • - Okay, so there's anything that you want.

  • There's book

  • of the month club. - Tea

  • - There's tea.

  • - There's chocolate. - Coffee.

  • - Coffee.

  • Yeah, and just buying a product,

  • like if you buy it through a store,

  • a lot of times they'll have it in

  • as an automatic recurring payment.

  • - Yeah. - For awhile I was trying,

  • like a... Not a sleeping pill,

  • but like a vitamin for sleeping.

  • - Mm-hmm.

  • - And so they put me on a monthly subscription.

  • - Oh yeah. They're expensive too,

  • aren't they?

  • - Oh yeah, most of the things like they really sell you

  • on the product, you really believe in the product.

  • They do have really good marketing.

  • You see somebody on Instagram and they were so happy.

  • - Yeah. - They're endorsing it.

  • And you click subscribe - Yeah.

  • - And then six months later,

  • (chuckles)

  • - Yeah, it happens. - You have to try

  • to figure out how to unsubscribe.

  • - Yeah, I got rid of a lot of subscriptions recently.

  • And it's also happening with apps as well.

  • So, entertainment, upstream and services.

  • It used to be just either you watch cable,

  • or satellite.

  • What'd you call it here, satellite too?

  • - I guess so.

  • - Yeah, and then Netflix was your stream in one.

  • That was the only one.

  • And then Amazon Prime, now Disney Plus,

  • and everyone's doing it.

  • HBO. - Yeah.

  • So many of them are just coming in now.

  • And then the issue...

  • And again, YouTube TV and different ones came in

  • where you didn't have to have cable.

  • And cable used to be,

  • or it still is around like between 80 and $120.

  • And then you had these ones coming like,

  • with it, to choose which ones you want.

  • Like quite about all right, price is up next month to 40.

  • You know, it's still cheaper.

  • And then YouTube TV is like 65, 70 now.

  • - A month? - Yeah.

  • - Holy moly. - That's why I canceled it.

  • - How much are Netflix, or Amazon right now?

  • - Well Netflix is the same as well.

  • So Netflix went from, I think it was 10 to 15,

  • 10 to 20 for the one we were using.

  • But then I got on the lower service.

  • Yeah, I feel like we're doing our admin here.

  • - I know, we're like, we're having a conversation

  • about all this subscriptions that we need to cancel.

  • - But yeah, you talk to the families too.

  • And they're saying,

  • "yeah, we're on all these subscriptions".

  • And this is the thing, it's just,

  • everything is subscription-based.

  • And they'll try and get you in,

  • and people think I've got to do it,

  • and it just becomes expensive.

  • And you can probably get rid of it all.

  • - I think we're always looking for shortcuts

  • as people looking for things to be easier.

  • And you know, and I think that's the appeal

  • of getting subscriptions, or these services

  • but it kind of takes away

  • from the spontaneous feel of things,

  • you know? - Yeah, oh it does.

  • - And you don't think about every purchase.

  • You don't really like, you know, choose what movie to watch.

  • For example, you're just like, "ah something"

  • - Yeah. - You know.

  • - That's the other thing.

  • If I'm online food shopping and something's on offer

  • I will get 10 of it, whatever it is,

  • for example. - That's probably smart.

  • - But then I go to the shop

  • and there putting 10 in your cart

  • feels a little bit too much. - Yeah,

  • - Do you know what I mean? - Oh, I know what you mean.

  • - Yeah. - Uh-huh.

  • - You know what I mean?

  • - I know, I always like, so probably my biggest advice-

  • - Sorry, I'll just say I would never go

  • to a store and spend that much money on a cap.

  • (chuckles) Seriously though.

  • I would never go to a store, - The hat.

  • - See a cap, and think, - Uh-huh.

  • - I'm gonna buy that for that price.

  • - Oh man, when you see it, it'll be like,

  • "ooooh". - Yeah?

  • I better change my life.

  • - I mean, I think it's definitely

  • gonna change your life hopefully in a positive way.

  • - Yeah, maybe you'll just send me

  • into a different personality, and...

  • - There you go. - Yeah, negatively.

  • (both chuckles)

  • - The cap that turns Jack evil.

  • - I'm gonna annoy everybody.

  • - Be like, flushing these out, you know, wassup bro.

  • Wassup bro. - Not much bro, nice hat.

  • - Yeah, just to go back to meal delivery,

  • we enjoyed that this time last year, didn't we?

  • - Mm-hmm, well, I did. - That was pretty good.

  • - I think I might've mentioned - I enjoyed it, too.

  • - That in the last...

  • - Yeah. - Did you?

  • - No, you were getting the meal delivery

  • and I didn't want it, - Mm-hmm.

  • - But then you ended up cooking most evenings.

  • So I was happy about that and it turned out fine

  • - But the problem was that I was a little stressed

  • out last year, - Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

  • - Everything was shutting down.

  • I didn't know what was gonna happen.

  • I mean, nobody did, right? - Yeah.

  • And so when I got the meal delivery service,

  • I didn't get just one.

  • I got like several and...

  • - Yeah, oh you got all those veggies, too.

  • Yeah, and I, and I also had subscribed to Mother Earth,

  • which we still love and use,

  • but also like a different vegetable subscription.

  • - Mm-hmm. - Yeah, it was bad.

  • - I also got like, 350 pounds of meat.

  • - Yep. - Which was amazing.

  • It was on super sale.

  • Because what happened was...

  • Because all the restaurants closed down,

  • the local farms lost all there orders.

  • So they said,

  • "look we've got all this meat that we have to get rid of".

  • It's 60, 70% off. - Yeah.

  • - And I was like, pop, pop, pop, pop.

  • And it was the same with beer,

  • - Oh yeah. - All delivered, right?

  • It was 25 cents a can.

  • - Yeah, and for like really-

  • - Free delivery.

  • - Really, you know, good craft beer.

  • - Oh yeah, local craft beer.

  • - And you know, they'd just been in production,

  • and had all of these cases and cases,

  • and cases of beer.

  • - Again, because restaurants closed down.

  • - Mm-hmm, yeah.

  • - I think we did quite well at that time, actually.

  • - I mean, it was a strange time,

  • but there were some silver linings to it.

  • - Yeah, but I think a good summary here is that,

  • subscriptions and online shopping, you know,

  • and it's obviously, like we can, if we have some type

  • of disposable income to afford that kind of thing.

  • But at the same time,

  • it can take over and before you know,

  • it's like a creep.

  • And it's not just us.

  • I know of the people talk about this all the time,

  • but it seems like there is this trend now toward...

  • Just as a little bit of a tangent,

  • but I remember reading that a lot of millennials

  • weren't getting cars because their expenses now,

  • are of the things.

  • The mobile phone, it's like a hundred dollars a month.

  • Then internet service.

  • - So they can't afford cars,

  • or it's not part of the lifestyle?

  • - In terms of, if they can afford or not,

  • it's not a priority over the other stuff

  • that they would have to budget for.

  • - Oh yeah. - Does that make sense?

  • - It does.

  • - And obviously people are living

  • in cities where they can get around

  • which is my latest podcast episode.

  • - Oh yeah.

  • - Talks about sidewalks, lack of sidewalks in the US.

  • - We used to not have a car.

  • - No, I love to walk in every...

  • This is what I was saying, it's what I miss.

  • You walk everywhere.

  • In Spain when we were taking groceries

  • up seven flights of stairs.

  • And water, because you couldn't drink the tap water.

  • - Oh yeah.

  • - Or at least people said we couldn't.

  • - I mean, I trust them.

  • (chuckles) - Yeah.

  • - Whenever somebody says don't drink the water.

  • I think it's usually a good policy.

  • - Remember what I told you that when we came on holiday

  • to the US? - Mm-hmm.

  • - Everyone in the UK don't drink no water.

  • - They did. - Yeah.

  • - Why?

  • - Well, they said that it's just not good for you, it's bad.

  • I think every country I've been to on a holiday,

  • it's like, "Oh, don't drink no water, it's bad water".

  • Spain was one-

  • - I mean that was Spanish people were talking like that.

  • - Do you ask? - Uh-huh.

  • - Yeah.

  • - But I wouldn't say don't drink the water.

  • - The tap water.

  • - Uh-huh. - Yeah.

  • - Is that because of the flood?

  • - Well back in the day, probably not.

  • But now it's probably a good reason not to.

  • - I think Florida has been a part of city water

  • for that long.

  • - Maybe that's why then.

  • Because I don't think they put that in the tap water.

  • - They put fluoride, which is a mineral?

  • - A mineral.

  • - Mineral that, like strengthens your teeth,

  • but in excess can have negative.

  • - One also did, well, we're not gonna talk about it here,

  • but I prefer if they didn't put fluoride in the water.

  • - Mm-hmm. - Yeah.

  • - But, online shopping.

  • Yeah, I'll get my new cap, my new glasses.

  • And I'll do a nice little Instagram post for your all.

  • - Your accent sounds particularly strong today.

  • - Is it? - Mm-hmm.

  • - Because I just had a coffee.

  • - Mm-hmm, it might be your cap.

  • - Oh yeah, if people...

  • I gave up coffee this time last year.

  • - Mm-hmm.

  • - And I have succumbed to the caffeine again,

  • and I feel so much better.

  • (chuckles)

  • - No, don't go back.

  • - Two cups a day, maximum, won't have any more.

  • - Oh no, it was a half a cup.

  • - Yeah, but when you make coffee in the morning

  • you refuse to make me like a decaf or a half caff.

  • So, it depends...

  • (both chuckles)

  • Because when I wake up but I'm like the half caff

  • then you always say like at work,

  • "wait a minute, why am I still tired?"

  • - "Why am I still asleep?"

  • - Cool, well, we'll end it there.

  • - Okay.

  • - Yeah, oh, yes.

  • If you're here on YouTube...

  • This is both on YouTube and the podcast on Apple...

  • I know. - What?

  • So like talking to people at the same time.

  • - Oh yeah.

  • - So if you're on YouTube, then check out...

  • Well, if you're anywhere, check out the description

  • cause I'll have links for you.

  • And we'll see if we can leave some key phrases

  • for you there as well, but we'll have links

  • to the story about Amazon and that whole,

  • how they took over.

  • Links to our friend's subscription, you know,

  • and some other things in Asheville, Asheville Tea company.

  • - Yeah, well, I am also, you know,

  • I hope that we weren't speaking too quickly.

  • This time we've clearly had a lot of coffee and done a lot

  • of online shopping, so we're really energized.

  • - Yeah, well, and we don't spend that much time together.

  • (both chuckles)

  • We're kind of excited about it.

  • - Did you buy the cap?

  • - Yeah. - When's it coming?

  • - I don't know, I don't know.

  • - Can I do a Kate's question?

  • - Yeah, do a Kate's question.

  • - So my question is,

  • if you shop online,

  • what makes you want to buy something?

  • - Yeah, I think also, I've think about if advertising works

  • on you.

  • - Well, that's kind of my question.

  • Like, what makes you buy online?

  • What do you buy online?

  • If anything.

  • - And yeah, we asked the question

  • before about Amazon as well.

  • - Oh yeah.

  • - But you can link it together.

  • Yeah, if you're on YouTube, subscribe.

  • If you're on Apple Podcasts,

  • or other podcast ones, then subscribe as well.

  • You can subscribe.

  • - Subscribe.

  • - Leave a positive review as well

  • if you have the time to do so.

  • Kate, have you done that yet on your Podcast app?

  • - Not yet. - Not yet?

  • - No. - Okay.

  • Well Kate needs to go on it as well, but yeah,

  • and share it with a friend.

  • Just share this episode with a friend

  • and we look forward to reading your comments.

  • All right.

  • Thank you for being here.

  • I'll speak to you soon.

  • Ba-bye.

- Hello, this is Jack from tofluency.com along with Kate.

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Advanced Natural English: Can You Understand This Conversation about Online Shopping? (Subtitles)

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