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  • - Now let's understand something about presidents,

  • first and foremost.

  • They're all sociopaths.

  • I mean, think about the ego

  • that's required to be president of the United States.

  • When we meet somebody with that kind of ego at a party,

  • you usually find yourself moving across the room.

  • Hi, I'm Jeffrey Engel,

  • director of the Center for Presidential History

  • at Southern Methodist University.

  • Today, we're gonna be reviewing scenes

  • that feature U.S. presidents in films and TV.

  • [dramatic music]

  • This is "Frost/Nixon" directed by Ron Howard.

  • In this scene, which is the real climax of the movie,

  • Richard Nixon admits to something dramatic

  • about the Watergate break-in.

  • - You're quoting me out of context, out of order.

  • And I might add, I have participated in all these interviews

  • without a single note in front of me.

  • - Okay, first off, this is a great impersonation of Nixon.

  • He's got the mannerisms, he's got the voice.

  • He's got the head movements, except he's nice.

  • Richard Nixon wasn't nice.

  • This man is polite and gentle.

  • Richard Nixon had a burning fury of anger

  • in everything he did.

  • If he thought a reporter was taking him down the wrong road,

  • even if he was on film, even if he was on camera,

  • he would have shut him down a lot harder than that.

  • - I have never heard or seen such outrageous,

  • vicious, distorted reporting in 27 years of public life.

  • - The movie centers around the aftermath

  • of the Watergate break-in.

  • In 1972 operatives working for Richard Nixon

  • broke into the Democratic National Committee Headquarters

  • basically looking for dirt on Nixon's potential opponents

  • in the upcoming presidential campaign.

  • It seemed like every day,

  • a new piece of information would trickle out

  • bringing the scandal closer and closer to Nixon.

  • Nixon has to resign.

  • The first and only president in American history

  • to resign the office.

  • - Do you seriously expect us to believe

  • that you had no knowledge of that?

  • - None, I believed the money was for humanitarian purposes

  • to help disadvantaged people with their defense.

  • - Richard Nixon did really sit for interviews with Frost

  • a few years after leaving the White House in disgrace.

  • However, it wasn't antagonistic.

  • It was a business operation and partnership between the two.

  • Nixon was paid $800,000, which is about the equivalent

  • of about $10 million in today's dollars.

  • And more importantly,

  • he was set to get 20% of the profit of any recording sales

  • that they did for the interview going forward.

  • And Nixon's own people were encouraging Nixon to say more.

  • The humanitarian purposes for disadvantaged people

  • with their defense he's talking about

  • the guys that broke into the Watergate for him.

  • And the truth is one of the things

  • that busted the case wide open

  • was that one of them admitted in open court

  • that he was being pressured and bribed not to talk.

  • So in a sense, the defense

  • is not for the lawyers necessarily.

  • The defense that Nixon's paying for is for his own skin.

  • - Maybe I should have done that.

  • Maybe I should have just called the Feds into my office,

  • and said, hey, there's the two men.

  • Haul them down to the dock, fingerprint them,

  • and then throw them in the can.

  • - What we have to understand is that Nixon is in exile.

  • He's living in California.

  • He's moved back home in disgrace.

  • He thought if he told his side of the story,

  • if people could hear him say it in a controlled environment,

  • that would reboost his reputation and you know what?

  • It worked.

  • - Are you really saying that in certain situations,

  • the president can decide

  • whether it's in the best interest of the nation,

  • and then do something illegal?

  • - I'm saying that when the president does it,

  • that means it's not illegal.

  • - So that's supposed to be the climax of the movie,

  • the moment when Richard Nixon admits guilt for Watergate.

  • The truth is he didn't.

  • Oh, he admitted guilt.

  • He admitted that he felt guilty feelings

  • for how bad Watergate was for the American people.

  • If mistakes were made, he was sorry.

  • He said out loud,

  • perhaps I gave the sword to people who used it wrongly,

  • but I did not wield the sword myself.

  • The kind of apologies you make

  • when you don't actually want to admit guilt.

  • The more fascinating point that the movie

  • is trying to make here, though,

  • is Nixon's sense of power of executive authority.

  • He believed, and frankly, many people believe this today

  • that the Constitution doesn't really bind the president

  • as much as one might necessarily think,

  • that, basically, if the president can do anything

  • he or she wants that's not written down in the Constitution.

  • More importantly, if nobody's gonna stop them,

  • then they can really do a lot.

  • And that's a central theme of presidents throughout history,

  • but certainly in Nixon,

  • and frankly, certainly in more modern days.

  • The connections between Richard Nixon and Donald Trump

  • are personal, are astounding.

  • The truth of the matter is that

  • what Nixon cared about most was Nixon.

  • And what Donald Trump cares about most is Donald Trump.

  • And I assure you, Richard Nixon felt bad about Watergate,

  • but he felt bad about the fact that he was caught.

  • There's no sense I think for Donald Trump

  • that he's ever going to admit that he made a mistake.

  • Mistakes happen to him.

  • Problems happen to him, just like Nixon.

  • - I'm saying that when the president does it,

  • that means it's not illegal.

  • - The key line of the movie when Nixon says,

  • if a president does it, it's not illegal

  • is something he said, it just wasn't about Watergate.

  • He was talking about foreign policy.

  • Now keep in mind, Richard Nixon is the guy

  • who bombed Cambodia without telling Congress,

  • without telling the American people.

  • Expanding a war that was already unpopular

  • because he thought he had the authority to do it.

  • So if the president says as commander-in-chief

  • let's bomb someplace whose gonna say no?

  • So that he actually said the line he thought that sentiment

  • just not about Watergate.

  • This is "Lincoln" directed by Steven Spielberg.

  • In this scene, Lincoln is discussing the politics

  • of the 13th Amendment that would ban slavery.

  • - You lied to me.

  • Mr. Lincoln, you evaded my requests for a denial,

  • that there is a Confederate peace offer because,

  • because there is one.

  • - No one is surprised when a politician lies,

  • certainly not their own staff.

  • They see it up close every day.

  • Lincoln was a master politician.

  • I mean, we think of him as the most ethical and moral,

  • and God-fearing president we had, and he was that,

  • but also knew how to do some dirty politicking

  • when he needed to.

  • One thing that shocked people was the notion that,

  • oh, my goodness, politicians were being bought and sold,

  • left, right, and center.

  • You know what?

  • Politicians were bought and sold, left, right, and center.

  • It still happens today just a little quieter.

  • - Hell, you can have that for nothing.

  • What we need money for is bribes to speed things up.

  • - A lot of the people who voted for the 13th Amendment

  • found themselves with really nice jobs,

  • say running a postal commission,

  • or running a port after they left office.

  • President Lincoln knew how to dole out the goods.

  • - I can't listen to this anymore.

  • I can't accomplish a goddamn thing of any human meaning,

  • or worth until we cure ourselves of slavery,

  • and end this pestilential war.

  • - I've seen Richard Nixon, I've seen Ronald Reagan.

  • I don't know what Lincoln actually looked like moving,

  • and I don't know his voice,

  • but they tell us all the people who meet him

  • in their diaries and letters

  • that he had a real high-pitched kind of screamy voice.

  • He was not a baritone.

  • And Daniel Day-Lewis really embodies Lincoln

  • in every way possible.

  • So here we are in the spring of 1865, and the nation

  • has lost an ungodly number of casualties, 800,000.

  • In fact, historians keep revising the number of casualties,

  • and deaths in the Civil War Up.

  • So the American people are tired.

  • They're frustrated that the war continues.

  • - I know I need this.

  • This amendment is that cure.

  • - Lincoln wants the war to end as quickly as possible,

  • but not so quickly

  • that he can't get everything he wants done politically.

  • He wants to get the 13th Amendment passed.

  • The 13th Amendment that would ban slavery forever

  • in the United States.

  • Lincoln was frankly never one to think

  • that blacks and whites were equal.

  • In fact, he had the idea, perhaps that blacks

  • could be transported back to Africa after the war

  • 'cause the two races could never possibly live together

  • in the same country, they were just too unequal.

  • What he objected to because blacks were human that anyone,

  • any human should be put into slavery.

  • And he worried in some ways

  • that if someone could be put into slavery,

  • then anyone could be put into slavery.

  • And the way to keep everyone out of slavery

  • was to abolish it forever.

  • - We're stepped out upon the world's stage now.

  • Now with a fate of human dignity in our hands.

  • - What's also fascinating about this scene

  • is that it shows Lincoln yelling, it shows Lincoln angry.

  • Now Lincoln was an emotional guy.

  • In fact, we now know that Lincoln

  • suffered from what we would term depression.

  • There were periods early in his life where his friends

  • basically went on suicide watch,

  • and he's dealing with the pressures,

  • unlike any other human has ever dealt with perhaps

  • of how to hold the country together

  • at a moment when it wants to rip itself apart,

  • not just for political, but for moral reasons.

  • - So in point of fact, without my permission,

  • you ain't enlisting in nothing, nowhere.

  • - Lincoln did a remarkable job of keeping calm, of cajoling,

  • of making people feel that he wanted them on their side,

  • and that he wanted everyone

  • to be pulling in the same direction.

  • - Abolishing slavery by constitutional provision

  • settles the fate for all coming time.

  • - We have to remember presidents they're not kings.

  • They're not tyrants, at least not yet.

  • Every president has restraints upon them.

  • And yet they all have more power than anyone else.

  • Sometimes it's a congressman from Mukwonago, Iowa,

  • who is able to clog things up.

  • You got to work with people in the American government

  • to get things done.

  • You got to work with Congress in particular.

  • - Slavery troubled me as long as I can remember.

  • In a way it never troubled my father,

  • though he hated it in his own fashion.

  • - And Lincoln who had been in Congress

  • knew that he could threaten,

  • but he couldn't actually force people

  • to vote the way he wanted.

  • This is "Pearl Harbor" directed by Michael Bay.

  • In this scene, set in December of 1941,

  • President Franklin Roosevelt meets with his cabinet

  • to discuss retaliation against the Japanese

  • for their attack against Pearl Harbor.

  • There's nothing basically right about the history

  • in this movie.

  • - Is it true men are still trapped alive inside the Arizona?

  • - We're doing everything we can to get to them,

  • but they're 40 feet below water.

  • We'd have to get them within a few hundred miles of Japan,

  • and therefore risk our carriers.

  • And if we lose our carriers,

  • we'll have no shield against invasion.

  • - The Japanese were not going to invade the West Coast.

  • Nobody in their right mind thought the Japanese

  • were going to invade the West Coast.

  • Everyone feared the Japanese,

  • but the United States military didn't worry about invasion.

  • The Japanese didn't have enough ships for that.

  • So here we have a scene

  • where the president of the United States

  • is being told things that he already knows.

  • What he wants were solutions.

  • - He's a submariner, he came up with this idea, sir.

  • - I like sub commanders.

  • They don't have time for bullshit.

  • - Roosevelt used to be referred to as the juggler, why?

  • Because he didn't mind if his right hand and left hand

  • didn't know what was going on.

  • He would very famously tell people

  • to do contradictory things

  • if he didn't know what was gonna work

  • because he wanted to find out which one worked fastest.

  • Do away with the one that's no good.

  • Keep going with the one that works.

  • Pearl Harbor, of course, is December of '41.

  • Franklin Roosevelt had just won another

  • big electoral victory in November of 1940,

  • becoming the only president in American history

  • to ever serve more than two terms.

  • He was basically hoping to retire

  • at the end of his second term.

  • He was an old man, he was a tired man, he was a sick man.

  • Obviously, he was still living with

  • the ravages of his polio,

  • but Roosevelt had a sense that the world was going to war.

  • And more importantly, he had a sense

  • that he was needed to lead the country and the world.

  • So Roosevelt was a man who sought that third term,

  • and the American people gave him a third term.

  • He was wildly popular and also wildly hated.

  • - Do not tell me it can't be done.

  • - Roosevelt was paralyzed, but in a way

  • he had taught himself to walk,

  • or at least to give the appearance of it.

  • He had those big steel braces that you saw,

  • and he built up his upper body.

  • He was incredibly strong up top,

  • and actually could sort of give the appearance of walking

  • by throwing his hips and his shoulders back and forth

  • while holding onto somebody.

  • Everybody knew he'd been paralyzed.

  • That's what polio does to people.

  • What he had to prove

  • was that he had the physical capacities to do the job.

  • So the idea that Roosevelt could impress people

  • by pulling himself up onto a table

  • they would not be impressed

  • 'cause they would have seen him do that every day.

  • This is "Vice" directed by Adam McKay.

  • In this scene, Dick Cheney meets with George W. Bush

  • to discuss becoming Bush's running mate.

  • - Distance myself from my years at Yale and Harvard.

  • Make me more of a man of the people for the election.

  • - [Dick] Smart.

  • - Right away in this movie they get to one of the central

  • questions of George W. Bush's life,

  • and political life in particular.

  • Where is he from?

  • His whole family is from Connecticut.

  • His father had been president.

  • He went to Yale.

  • This is a blue blood of American blue bloods,

  • yet W. actually grew up in West Texas.

  • W. decides to buy a ranch, actually, outside of Waco,

  • and clear brush as his favorite hobby

  • when he is running for president,

  • and then when he is president.

  • As near as I can tell,

  • he doesn't get back to the ranch much,

  • now that he doesn't have to worry about voters.

  • - So, we gonna do this thing, or what?

  • I mean, is this happening?

  • - Yeah, I have found some very interesting candidates.

  • If we could schedule a three hour window to.

  • - No, I meant you, I want you to be my VP.

  • - I love the way this movie portrays ideas

  • without actually saying them.

  • Look at the contrast between these two.

  • Dick Cheney is restrained.

  • A man who knows what he wants to say

  • before the words have even formed in his mouth, not so W.

  • W. is exuberant, look how he's eating those chicken wings.

  • He loves life, he grabs everything and rushes right into it.

  • In a sense, this gives us a good sense

  • of their personalities that W. was the outgoing man.

  • Dick Cheney, the inner looking man.

  • - I have been secretary of defense.

  • I have been the chief of staff.

  • The vice presidency is mostly a symbolic job.

  • - Vice presidents, historically,

  • have not been particularly important.

  • In fact, I would argue Walter Mondale is really the first

  • to have a policy influence on the administration.

  • And that Dick Cheney essentially took the vice presidency

  • in ways no one had ever done before.

  • Washington was filled with rumors that, in fact,

  • Bush was just a puppet, if you will.

  • Now, I don't think that's true.

  • In fact, I think by the end of the administration,

  • by the second term,

  • especially after much of Cheney's advice

  • had completely gone awry from the first term,

  • W. had no longer much interest in what Cheney had to say,

  • but the central tension of their relationship existed

  • throughout the eight years of his presidency,

  • which is, was the president in charge,

  • or was the vice president pulling the strings?

  • - However,

  • the vice presidency is also defined by the president

  • if we were to come to a different understanding.

  • - Uh-huh.

  • - This is great, but not subtle.

  • Cheney is a fly fisherman.

  • Cheney spends a lot of time laying out some line,

  • and reeling things in,

  • and that's what he's doing with the president here.

  • The movie is suggesting that Cheney

  • who had been head of Bush's committee

  • to find a vice president

  • actually wanted the job himself the entire time.

  • I think that's probably right.

  • One of the things we see in "Vice" is George W. Bush

  • before he's in office, and before he has the full weight,

  • and responsibility of being president.

  • Bush, of course, is born into a political family.

  • His father had been president,

  • and in some ways he's been trying to emulate his father

  • his entire life, but in a different way.

  • Whereas, George H.W. Bush was genteel and reserved,

  • George W. Bush was kind of a wild man.

  • He has had many admitted troubles with alcohol

  • in his early years.

  • He finally found faith,

  • found the strength to give up alcohol,

  • and became a business person,

  • actually owner of the Texas Rangers.

  • And he liked to be a very public owner of the Rangers.

  • He liked the backslap and he liked the shaking hands.

  • Leave the details to the other guys.

  • George W. Bush made decisions as he says with his gut.

  • This is, actually, I think one of the most accurate.

  • It's made in 2018 talking about the early 2000s,

  • so it's not hard for them to get the clothes right,

  • or the talk right, or the haircuts right.

  • And I think they actually nailed Dick Cheney as well.

  • He's a man who is sincere, he's reserved, he's in control,

  • but you know what else he is?

  • He's sure, Dick Cheney is certain about the things

  • that he's certain about and he's willing to do anything,

  • anything to get them.

  • - This is a skit from "Saturday Night Live."

  • In this scene, we see two different Ronald Reagan's.

  • One who's clueless in public, but behind closed doors,

  • the one who's really in charge.

  • - Well, I hope I've answered your questions

  • as best I could given the very little that I know.

  • [laughter]

  • Good-bye, and God bless you.

  • - [Woman] Thank you Mr. President.

  • - Thank you very much.

  • Okay, get back in here.

  • All right, let's get down to business.

  • I'm only gonna go through this once,

  • so it's essential that you pay attention.

  • - This is Ronald Reagan's second term.

  • Ronald Reagan who had been

  • one of the oldest men ever elected presidents,

  • and Ronald Reagan, who frankly,

  • was never much on top of the details.

  • He was a real delegator, a big picture guy, if you will.

  • So this skit is one joke.

  • The idea that this man who's barely awake sometimes,

  • and who can't keep track of details

  • is actually masterminding global conspiracies.

  • The truth is Reagan was not masterminding

  • global conspiracies.

  • Reagan was that kindly, nice, quiet man,

  • with a big idea and big optimism

  • who did like to meet with Girl Scouts,

  • and did like to talk to reporters,

  • but didn't like to tell them too much.

  • The Reagan who is pictured here behind the scenes

  • is never a Reagan that existed,

  • and certainly not by the second term.

  • So we're supposed to laugh if we're Americans in the 1980s

  • at the very notion

  • that our president was actually in charge.

  • Ronald Reagan let other people bring decisions to him,

  • which he approved.

  • - Hello, Jimmy.

  • - Well, hi, Dutch, how are you?

  • Yeah, yeah, oh, I'm sorry, Mr. President.

  • You know, I have the hardest time getting used to that.

  • - Well, we sure had great times back in Hollywood.

  • - You can say that again, Dutch.

  • - So Jimmy Stewart shows up.

  • Well, that's not a surprise.

  • Ronald Reagan had been a Hollywood guy.

  • In fact, Ronald Reagan,

  • back in the days when he was a Democrat

  • had been actually the head of the actors union.

  • And he liked bringing his Hollywood friends

  • to the White House

  • because those were the closest things he had to friends.

  • He had a lot of acquaintances.

  • He had a lot of people that liked to be with him,

  • and that he liked in some sense,

  • but what he really liked was being alone,

  • or at least with Nancy.

  • The average evening for the two of them in the White House

  • was to retire at the end of the day,

  • usually about five o'clock watching old movies.

  • That was when Reagan was happiest.

  • - Mr. President, you're going so fast.

  • There's still a lot about the Iran-Nicaragua operation

  • I just don't understand.

  • - And you don't need to understand.

  • I'm the president, only I need to understand.

  • - The Iran-Contra controversy

  • that's at the heart of this skit was a big deal.

  • Ronald Reagan, frankly, should have been impeached.

  • He did more than most of the presidents

  • who have been impeached to be impeached.

  • The American public wasn't really interested in that

  • just a few years after Watergate,

  • and frankly in the middle of a president's second term,

  • a president who the American people liked,

  • he was very popular.

  • So there's a real sense in which Ronald Reagan

  • was able to have subordinates manipulate

  • the international system with actually no consequences.

  • He's one of the first presidents that we refer to as Teflon,

  • nothing sticks to this guy.

  • This is "The Comey Rule" directed by Billy Ray.

  • In this scene, newly elected President Donald Trump

  • demands loyalty from FBI director, James Comey.

  • - Press has been very unfair to you.

  • I know about that.

  • Nobody gets treated as unfairly as I do, it's disgraceful.

  • - The scene and the context matters here.

  • President Trump is meeting one-on-one

  • with FBI director, James Comey.

  • President Trump is a business guy.

  • He's never been in government before.

  • He thinks that's the way things operate.

  • He thinks he can talk to anyone without any consequences.

  • The truth is there used to be rules in Washington,

  • or at least understandings.

  • One of them was that an FBI director in order to make sure

  • that he was not politically influenced by the president,

  • in order to make sure that he was independent

  • to do his job as confirmed by Congress would never meet

  • with the president of the United States one-on-one.

  • If there's no one else in the room,

  • there's no one else to attest to what you said.

  • That's why Comey took notes

  • because he knew every time he met with the president,

  • it was something he shouldn't be doing.

  • - I don't think it would be good for you personally.

  • It would make you look like you've done something wrong.

  • Who needs that?

  • I mean, it doesn't matter to me that I could make a change.

  • I get along with everybody.

  • - This is a good impersonation and a bad impersonation.

  • I love the breathing.

  • The fact that Donald Trump inhales dramatically

  • through his nose before he says something.

  • Why is it a bad impersonation?

  • Do you notice this actor is using complete sentences?

  • Donald Trump has never finished a sentence

  • as near as I can tell,

  • and his supporters love that about him.

  • He moves from idea to idea to idea they say.

  • Just try one time to write out a transcript

  • of a Donald Trump speech,

  • or a Donald Trump press conference,

  • or a Donald Trump anything, it will hurt your hand.

  • There are some consistent traits among presidents.

  • One of them, frankly, is typically hard work.

  • Donald Trump is different,

  • which is why his supporters love him.

  • He speaks brashly.

  • He doesn't necessarily care about the impact of his words.

  • He's a bull in a China shop and that's the way he likes it.

  • - And I have to rely on people.

  • I have all these idiot advisors around

  • who think they got me elected.

  • You know who I actually listen to, TV people.

  • - One thing we know about Donald Trump

  • is that he watches a lot of television.

  • How do we know this?

  • Because he tells us, he tweets about shows all the time.

  • That's what he thinks is important about his presidency,

  • how it's perceived, not the policies.

  • It's how it looks on TV that matters to him.

  • Not surprising as a former TV star.

  • No other president in American history has come into office

  • without having either been a general,

  • or having held elected office before.

  • Donald Trump has done neither.

  • Donald Trump is unusual in every way

  • that he approaches things,

  • which is frankly why most of the people

  • who wind up working for him who have government experience,

  • wind up resigning.

  • They don't understand what it's like to work for a man

  • who doesn't understand the basic ways that government works.

  • - Well, you can rely on me, sir, to tell you.

  • - I need loyalty.

  • I expect loyalty.

  • - James Comey was the same FBI director for Obama,

  • as he was for Donald Trump,

  • a person who thought his loyalty was to the department,

  • and to the law and to the American people,

  • not to the president.

  • This is why Donald Trump broke the law

  • in trying to influence the FBI director.

  • If you are under investigation by the FBI,

  • which Trump was for his dealings with Russia,

  • and the Trump campaign was,

  • and you try to influence or intimidate,

  • or purchase the loyalty of your prosecutor

  • that's jail time in a normal circumstance.

  • One of the first things Donald Trump did in office

  • was frankly try to buy the influence and the judgment

  • of a person who has loyalties not to the White House,

  • but to the Constitution.

  • The show tells us that Trump tries to run the government

  • like his own personal business, which it just isn't.

  • This is "W." directed by Oliver Stone.

  • In this scene, President George W. Bush

  • meets with his advisors to discuss

  • potentially invading Iraq or Iran.

  • And if so how to market it to the American people.

  • - Weapons of destruction

  • make these countries more dangerous.

  • We've got to begin educating the public about

  • the size of this war and its implications.

  • - You have an approval rating

  • of more than 80% right now, sir, it's just astounding.

  • - This is after 9/11 and more importantly,

  • after American forces appear to have

  • stabilized things in Afghanistan,

  • and the Bush administration begins looking for,

  • well, the next target.

  • This is one of the open questions

  • that historians are going to be asking for generations.

  • When exactly did George W. Bush decide to invade Iraq?

  • Now, the invasion happens in March 2003,

  • September 11th is obviously September of 2001.

  • Some point in there, we know that Bush made up his mind.

  • What's critical is that this question of

  • what to do with Iraq actually comes up we know

  • from firsthand accounts on the evening of September 11th,

  • the critical moment of Bush's decision

  • whether to invade Iraq or not was at least on the table

  • during the worst moment of his presidency.

  • - Given your strong commitment to democracy,

  • do you think that Iran

  • should be lumped together with Iraq and North Korea?

  • After all Iran has a democratically-elected president.

  • - That's Condoleezza Rice, unbelievably fascinating woman.

  • I mean, just imagine what it was like for her entire career

  • to be not only often the only woman in the room,

  • but oftentimes the only black person in the room.

  • And certainly, therefore, the only black woman in the room.

  • And yet also to know that she was the one who was bringing

  • the most information to the table.

  • - We're gonna get hit again, we all know that,

  • unless we go out there and we hit them hard,

  • and we hit them first.

  • - Well, containment won us the Cold War, sir.

  • - Well, some people might just say

  • that Reagan won the Cold War, general.

  • - It is considered dogma within Republican circles

  • that Ronald Reagan won the Cold War

  • because he outspent the Soviets, but more importantly

  • because he called out their moral failings.

  • The Soviet Union fell and communism collapsed,

  • and democracy seemed to spread everywhere

  • in the early 1990s.

  • One of the things that the George Bush administration

  • never really considered, I would argue,

  • is what they're gonna do with the democracy

  • when they get it.

  • If you give people the right to choose their own leaders,

  • what happens when those leaders do things

  • that we don't like?

  • We are just in the second year of the Bush administration

  • when as Karl Rove in this film notes,

  • President Bush's approval rating is sky high,

  • as powerful perhaps,

  • as almost any president in the 20th century.

  • He therefore felt that he had both free reign

  • to do what he wanted in the world,

  • but here's the more important part.

  • I think he and those around him thought

  • that the world was confirming just how right they were.

  • They'd never been in charge of something

  • that had gone wrong, well, yeah, 9/11 was bad,

  • but that was a surprise they would tell you,

  • and consequently, when they thought about where to go next,

  • it never occurred to them that it could go bad.

  • Afghanistan continues on,

  • and becomes the longest war in American history.

  • This period of the movie

  • is when things seem to be going right.

  • And when George W. Bush thinks

  • he's got this presidency thing down.

  • - No, I'm not saying war.

  • I'm saying lay down the law.

  • - But the speech, as written,

  • is taking a preempted posture against countries,

  • none of whom declared war on us.

  • - Here I think we need to be a little bit sympathetic

  • to the Bush administration.

  • We had just been through an unprecedented terrorist attack.

  • We had just suffered through anthrax attacks.

  • The expectation was not that there was going to be

  • one additional terrorist attack,

  • but multiple terrorist attacks.

  • They could come at any time, anywhere, in any place.

  • The idea that American policymakers

  • would look for solutions for security

  • shouldn't surprise us.

  • The problem was they wound up looking for solutions

  • in places where the problem wasn't in the first place.

  • Iraq was a country that frankly was contained.

  • Both "Vice" and "W."

  • of course, have George W. Bush as the central character.

  • And I think it actually shows a consistent sense of

  • George W. Bush is he operates on truthiness,

  • that is to say things that feel right.

  • - If we can get one democracy going in one of these places,

  • Iran, Iraq, believe me, Reagan was right.

  • It's gonna spread to all these countries

  • because people want freedom.

  • - George W. Bush was a man who came to the office

  • with relatively limited government experience,

  • extremely young,

  • not much experience in business and found early success.

  • And that early success,

  • he thought confirmed just how good he was.

  • - What about axis of evil?

  • - Axis of evil.

  • Evil, yeah, I like the ring of that, that's good.

  • - Mr. President, axis brings up World War II.

  • You can't link Germany and Japan with Iraq and North Korea.

  • - Now the axis of evil that they're discussing here

  • stems from a speech that Bush gave in 2002,

  • connecting Iran, Iraq, and North Korea.

  • And he references specifically, of course,

  • the axis powers of World War II

  • as Colin Powell in this film scene tells us.

  • The problem is in World War II,

  • the axis powers were actually allies.

  • So essentially George Bush's speechwriters

  • come up with a phrase that sounds great,

  • but has almost zero geopolitical use.

  • What they were really trying to say

  • was that each of these countries were threats

  • for independent reasons, but by linking them as an axis

  • Bush's speechwriters may have seemed as though

  • they were actually all on the same side.

  • Nothing could be further from the truth.

  • One of the things the movie gets right

  • is showing his enthusiasm for the war.

  • One of the things the movie gets wrong.

  • The scenes where we see the president and his advisors

  • celebrating the victory are as fictional as one can imagine.

  • It's not even possible

  • for the president to meet with all of his advisors

  • in that close quarters during a war.

  • And certainly not one where they would jump up,

  • and watch military affairs in real time and slap high fives.

  • This is "The Special Relationship"

  • directed by Richard Loncraine.

  • In this scene, British Prime Minister, Tony Blair

  • tries to convince American President, Bill Clinton,

  • that ground forces are needed in Kosovo.

  • - I just don't see how he can take us seriously.

  • - Look, I hate Milosevic as much as the next guy,

  • but sending troops into a sovereign state

  • that hasn't attacked us, now that's a pretty tough sell.

  • - There's a whole lot of geopolitics in this scene.

  • After the Cold War,

  • the United States was the most dominant power

  • perhaps the world had ever seen.

  • Its main military alliance in Europe was NATO,

  • North Atlantic Treaty Organization.

  • So now the real question is how does Europe defend itself?

  • And what role does NATO play?

  • So essentially what we have here is a European leader

  • pleading with the United States

  • to solve a problem in Europe,

  • which means Bill Clinton, the American president,

  • isn't too keen to get involved.

  • - I want to do it because it's the right thing to do.

  • - We both want to do the right thing,

  • and mobilizing NATO so it's ready to strike

  • is the right thing to do.

  • - [Tony] But Bill.

  • - In case you haven't noticed there's beaucoups of people

  • over here looking to get me impeached.

  • - There's a whole lot going on

  • in Bill Clinton's life at this time.

  • He is about to be impeached

  • for having a sexual scandal with a White House intern.

  • And Clinton knows that he has no political wiggle room

  • whatsoever to make any mistakes,

  • or to rally the American people in a war

  • they don't want to fight

  • when he has no political capital back at home.

  • The movie is called "The Special Relationship"

  • and that's not by accident.

  • British and American policymakers have talked about

  • their special relationship for decades.

  • They both read the same books and think in the same terms.

  • And more importantly,

  • they seem to consistently have the same enemies.

  • I mean, the truth is alliances aren't made

  • because people like each other

  • it's 'cause they dislike somebody more.

  • Historically, the president of the United States,

  • and the prime minister of Great Britain,

  • they're as close as two allies could ever want to be.

  • In some ways, Bill Clinton and Tony Blair

  • were the same person.

  • They were the first of their generation

  • to take power in each of their countries.

  • They thought of themselves as kindred spirits, as cousins,

  • they saw the world the same way.

  • And Clinton having gotten there just a few years before

  • saw himself as a mentor to Blair.

  • Dennis Quaid plays Bill Clinton,

  • and frankly does a pretty good job.

  • First, they show him on the golf course.

  • That's something Clinton liked a lot.

  • And Clinton liked to talk.

  • Clinton would talk all the time.

  • In fact, Clinton rarely slept.

  • That was actually one of the things that caused him trouble

  • in his relationship with his staff in the second term.

  • This next film is "The Wind and the Lion"

  • directed by John Milius.

  • In this scene, Teddy Roosevelt talks about

  • a bear he's hunted and compares it to the United States.

  • - Yes, this is the bear

  • that attacked the horse camp at dawn.

  • He knew that men would be asleep, or at their worst at dawn.

  • - Do you intend to have this bear

  • as a rug in the White House, Mr. President?

  • - Rug, no.

  • No, I intend to have him stuffed and placed on exhibit

  • at the Smithsonian Institute.

  • The American grizzly bear

  • is a symbol of the American character.

  • - So this movie is set in 1904 with Theodore Roosevelt out

  • doing one of the things he liked to do, hunting and riding.

  • He only went out West

  • after the tragic loss of his wife during childbirth,

  • and the loss of his mother on the same day.

  • He went out West for a few months to clear his head,

  • and found out that he loved not just the strenuous life,

  • but the outdoor life,

  • but notice as he's walking throughout the camp,

  • people still know he's the president.

  • This scene is pretty good.

  • Roosevelt is the closest thing we have

  • to a genuine Renaissance man in the White House.

  • He was incredibly athletic.

  • He was incredibly smart.

  • The man wrote 50 books over the course of his lifetime.

  • He could converse with anyone on a high plane.

  • The high part is what I don't like.

  • Roosevelt had a squeaky voice.

  • - Are the American people fit to govern themselves,

  • to rule themselves, to control themselves?

  • - If everyone could hear what he really sounded like,

  • well, he wouldn't have sounded quite as manly

  • as he wanted them to think he was.

  • - We're accustomed to wild animals taking flight

  • at the sight of men with guns.

  • The American grizzly fears nothing.

  • - But the idea that Roosevelt could sit down with reporters,

  • and talk philosophically,

  • in some ways write stories for them.

  • That's perfectly aligned with his whole way of life.

  • - The American grizzly embodies the spirit of America.

  • He should be our symbol, not that ridiculous eagle.

  • He's no more than a dandified vulture.

  • - Roosevelt suggested in this scene

  • that we should change our national symbol

  • from the American eagle to the grizzly bear.

  • The bear he said was strong, it was powerful,

  • but it was also alone.

  • It has separate place in the world,

  • whereas an eagle is just a scavenger.

  • This is the kind of thing

  • that Theodore Roosevelt would have done.

  • What's more likely is that he would have sent it

  • to the Natural History Museum in New York City.

  • You know, the one with the big Roosevelt statue in front,

  • the one that's dedicated in many ways to Theodore Roosevelt

  • because his family gave the money for it.

  • He was a naturalist.

  • He believed in studying the real world

  • that was in front of him,

  • but he also had the money to fund his own studies.

  • He was a big picture guy.

  • - And one other trait that goes with all previous.

  • - And that, Mr. President?

  • - Loneliness, a bear lives out his life alone.

  • Indomitable, unconquered, but always alone.

  • - And this is why I don't really like this scene

  • because he suggests that Americans are lonely, are isolated.

  • That wasn't Roosevelt.

  • He thought Americans were integrated,

  • should do more overseas,

  • but the idea that the United States would have no allies,

  • wouldn't jive with Roosevelt

  • because he thought that the United States

  • was supposed to be a leader of nations

  • that we would lead and people would follow.

  • Roosevelt was one of the key leaders

  • in a movement that we now call the Progressives.

  • People who thought that government could be used

  • to reel in capital, to reel in corporations,

  • to reel in monopolies.

  • He believed in progressivism by which he meant progress.

  • We need to make the country better.

  • He knew that he was at the top of the food chain,

  • and he wanted to stay at the top,

  • but he also knew he could appeal to people

  • throughout the American electorate

  • because he could say to them,

  • I'm gonna improve your life no matter where you live.

  • - The world will never love us, may respect us.

  • May even grow to fear us, but will never love us.

  • - So Roosevelt leaves office in 1909,

  • and discovers he doesn't like not being in office.

  • So he came back and ran against his own party in 1912.

  • They wouldn't have him the Republicans,

  • so instead he forms another party, the Progressive Party.

  • During that campaign in Wisconsin, he was shot.

  • Now the bullet, thankfully, went through his jacket,

  • but then it landed in his eyeglass case.

  • And then in the 75 pages of the speech he was about to give,

  • he goes to the fairgrounds to give his speech,

  • and he stands up and says, essentially,

  • they tried to kill me.

  • That's how afraid they are of the change

  • I'm going to bring to the country, opens his shirt.

  • Look, I have blood from the assassin's bullet.

  • If he had walked off the stage at that point,

  • I think it would have gone down

  • as the greatest speech in election history.

  • Instead he talked for another 90 minutes.

  • He gave his speech kind of underplaying

  • the drama of the idea that he had been shot.

  • This is "Thirteen Days" directed by Roger Donaldson.

  • In this scene, JFK is meeting with his top military advisors

  • on how to deal with the supposed nuclear missiles in Cuba.

  • - General, how long until the army is ready?

  • - We've just begun the mobilization

  • under cover of a pre-arranged exercise, sir.

  • We're looking at another week and a half.

  • - But you can order the strikes now.

  • The plans call for an eight-day air campaign.

  • - This is October of 1962.

  • American spy planes have discovered

  • the construction of Soviet nuclear facilities in Cuba,

  • 90 miles away from America's shores.

  • The presumption in real life

  • is that there are no missiles there.

  • That they just started building

  • these construction sites for them.

  • In the movie it's a little bit more tenuous.

  • Throughout this scene

  • they'll discuss the missiles being there.

  • They didn't think the missiles were there,

  • but here's the kicker, here's the real fun part.

  • The Kennedy administration real life was wrong.

  • There weren't nuclear missiles in Cuba,

  • but there were nuclear weapons.

  • - Longer range IRBMs.

  • They can hit every place in the country except Seattle.

  • - So every person that we see in this movie

  • is a real person except Kevin Costner.

  • He's a character that they created

  • in order to have conversations recorded in the room.

  • He's there as a dramatic device

  • with a terrible Boston accent.

  • - Because I was ready to knock that son of a bitch

  • across the room.

  • - We knew it was coming.

  • - You give me the order right now.

  • My planes will be ready to carry out the air strikes

  • in three days' time, all you got to do is say go.

  • My boys will get those Red bastards.

  • - That was Curtis LeMay.

  • He's the guy who commanded all the U.S. bombing of Japan.

  • He's the man that thought up the idea that,

  • well, we could strategically firebomb,

  • and starve the Japanese into submission.

  • Remember more Japanese died in individual attacks in Tokyo,

  • and other cities organized by LeMay

  • than were killed during the atomic bomb strikes.

  • So this is a man who had,

  • shall we say no compunction using force.

  • This movie gets right a real key dynamic

  • of the Cuban Missile Crisis,

  • which is that John Kennedy was not liked,

  • or respected by many of his generals,

  • Curtis LeMay, in particular, and you can understand why.

  • John Kennedy had been a lieutenant in the Pacific theater.

  • Curtis LeMay had been in charge of the entire Air Corps.

  • And they didn't like the idea.

  • This young whippersnapper was the man in charge,

  • and they didn't miss many opportunities

  • to remind him of that.

  • - You're in a pretty bad fix, Mr. President.

  • - What did you say?

  • - You're in a pretty bad fix.

  • - So maybe you haven't noticed you're in it with me.

  • - That exchange happened.

  • It's really a dramatic scene that shows how enthusiastic

  • LeMay and others were to use military force,

  • and how reticent Kennedy was.

  • This is really the great secret

  • of Kennedy's brilliant diplomacy during this period.

  • He bought time to consider other options.

  • Curtis LeMay wanted to bomb yesterday.

  • John Kennedy found that he could use

  • all 13 days of the crisis to find the one peaceful avenue

  • out of what seemed like a sure course to nuclear war.

  • There are two things that people need to appreciate

  • about John Kennedy the person.

  • The first is how sick he was and how much pain he was in.

  • He was a genuine war hero.

  • He had broken his back as a P.T. commander

  • during World War II.

  • And he also suffered from a variety of adrenal,

  • and gland diseases.

  • He basically was in constant pain,

  • which meant he was constantly being revved up

  • by amphetamines, painkillers of all kinds.

  • He was a walking drug store.

  • The other thing about Kennedy

  • was he liked his relaxation time,

  • and he liked his relaxation time to be not by himself,

  • and not necessarily with the comfort of his wife.

  • John Kennedy let's say had a good time,

  • but he had had some trip-ups.

  • Essentially everywhere that Kennedy turned, he talked tough,

  • but it looked as though he wasn't willing to back it up.

  • He was personally popular then,

  • but people were still wondering

  • even as late as two years into his administration,

  • if he was really up to the job.

  • This is "LBJ" directed by Rob Reiner.

  • In this scene, LBJ is having a policy discussion

  • with some of his closest advisers in close quarters.

  • - Why the fuck am I busy alienating

  • every son of a bitch in my party when

  • if I'm gonna make a run in '68,

  • well, I'm gonna need people to fucking like me.

  • Shut the door.

  • - You're probably wondering what you're watching.

  • Did LBJ actually have meetings while sitting on the toilet?

  • The thing that's really wrong about this movie

  • as near as I can tell is that LBJ just said close the door.

  • LBJ wasn't somebody who was interested in privacy, why?

  • Because everything he did was about power.

  • The reason he had meetings on the throne

  • was because you have to be there uncomfortable,

  • and listening to him.

  • So LBJ being a crass, vile, profane guy

  • who wants other people to see him doing his business

  • that's about right.

  • He also was a very large man.

  • He liked to use his physical body

  • to do what they called the Johnson treatment.

  • Essentially, he would get closer and closer and closer,

  • and closer to you while he was talking, leaning over you,

  • 'til frankly, you finally agree with him

  • because you were too afraid to do anything else.

  • LBJ was, yes, a good old boy from Texas.

  • And he was also the smartest guy in the room.

  • The story of LBJ and civil rights

  • is one of the most fascinating,

  • and important sagas of American history, frankly.

  • Here's a guy from Texas, grew up in Jim Crow South.

  • Voted as a legislator for lots of

  • Jim Crow anti-black policies.

  • When he becomes president does the unexpected.

  • He winds up being a champion for civil rights.

  • Why did LBJ change?

  • He told us that when a person becomes president,

  • they suddenly feel responsible for every citizen,

  • not just the ones that voted for him, but for everybody,

  • especially those who don't have an advocate for themselves.

  • This is "John Adams" directed by Tom Hooper.

  • In this scene, gathered around George Washington's table,

  • Alexander Hamilton explains his economic plan

  • to Thomas Jefferson.

  • - I must admit, Mr. Hamilton, I am a little uncertain

  • as to the purpose of the treasury department.

  • No doubt its function will reveal itself to me in good time.

  • - I think everybody at this point knows that

  • Hamilton and Jefferson despised each other,

  • they had different worldviews.

  • One way to think about it is the speech that Hamilton

  • is about to give explains to us

  • the importance of financial power,

  • and of structures of government,

  • and Jefferson counters talking about liberty and freedom.

  • In essence, Jefferson is a man who thinks

  • the world is moved by ideas.

  • Hamilton is a man who thinks the world

  • is moved by money and power.

  • - The future prosperity of this nation

  • rests chiefly in trade.

  • Trade depends among other things

  • on the willingness of other nations to lend us money.

  • - So Thomas Jefferson was concerned about central authority.

  • So was everybody else,

  • but the truth is in the late 1780s

  • after the Revolutionary War,

  • but before the Constitution was signed,

  • people longed for central authority because chaos reigned.

  • It was a terrible Great Depression.

  • Perhaps as bad as the Great Depression,

  • there was essentially lawlessness going on.

  • And there was no central authority

  • who could put things in order.

  • The Constitution in many ways

  • is a remarkably conservative document.

  • It's about keeping things in check.

  • The Declaration of Independence is the radical document

  • we must break with the world.

  • Jefferson who wrote the first,

  • I think in some ways never fully appreciated the second.

  • This scene demonstrates really Adam's discomfort

  • within the Washington administration, why?

  • Because he was vice president and Washington makes clear

  • that he does not really consider

  • Adams a member of the cabinet.

  • Washington does not want Adams' opinion, why?

  • Because he's another elected official.

  • He's not a chosen adviser from Washington.

  • George Washington wants to make sure

  • that we remain a democracy with a small-d,

  • a republic with a small-r.

  • John Adams had suggested

  • that perhaps we should call the American president

  • his excellency the president, and go on and on and on.

  • Washington said, no, Mr. President will do.

  • - Mr. President.

  • - Mr. President, nothing more.

  • - "John Adams" is a great representation

  • of the early colonial period

  • in the early national period for the United States.

  • The clothes are right, the looks are right.

  • Frankly, the fact that people seem a little dirty.

  • There's a wonderful scene in here with George Washington

  • talking about his wooden teeth.

  • Well, he didn't just have wooden teeth, of course.

  • He had actual teeth that were taken from his slaves,

  • and implanted in his own mouth.

  • They didn't go quite into that detail in "John Adams,"

  • but they certainly give a good sense of what it was like

  • to be in these hot stuffy rooms without air conditioning,

  • fully buttoned up in those clothes made of wool and cotton,

  • working through some of the toughest issues of the day.

  • There's also a real sense that John Adams,

  • not necessarily somebody you wanted to hang out with.

  • He was not the most fun guy in the room.

  • So the men around this table are iconic.

  • We call them the Founding Fathers.

  • George Washington, who, of course, was the virtuous man,

  • the man who, yes, had led American forces in the Revolution,

  • but he wasn't respected and elected president

  • just because he was the smartest guy in the room.

  • He was the most trusted.

  • He was the one who you knew

  • if he said something he meant it.

  • Thomas Jefferson, now he may have been the smartest guy

  • in the room, at least he thought so.

  • And he was activated by ideas.

  • He was a romantic at heart.

  • Jefferson actually is full of contradictions.

  • A man who writes about freedom

  • yet actually had his slave children,

  • those children he had with one of his slaves

  • wait on his white children.

  • And he was able to recognize the complexity of that

  • yet never find a solution to it.

  • And then, of course, there's Alexander Hamilton,

  • the orphan boy from the Caribbean

  • who winds up becoming secretary of the treasury.

  • And I would argue perhaps the most influential

  • of all of Washington's first cabinet,

  • the man whose mark we still see today.

  • These men defined our country then,

  • and still do even in own times.

  • Throughout today we've seen presidents

  • from George Washington

  • all the way through up to Donald Trump.

  • And I think we've seen an evolution

  • of the presidency as well.

  • The president becomes obviously more powerful,

  • becomes more important in everyone's immediate lives.

  • He becomes more important in the function of government.

  • And we see time and time again in these movies,

  • presidents who are willing to have difficult conversations

  • with their advisors that they are not necessarily willing

  • to have with the American people.

  • And increasingly, especially,

  • as we get into the age of Trump,

  • presidents who are willing to have conversations

  • that they're not willing to admit happened.

  • Ultimately, we see the presidency in the film

  • is a presidency that frankly reflects the power of America,

  • and also the perils.

  • These films show us

  • that the person in charge affects your life.

  • Go vote, you're the boss.

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Presidential Historian Reviews Presidents in Film & TV, from 'Lincoln' to 'The Comey Rule'

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