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GLAD TO WATCH IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, RACHEL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, RACHEL. >> THANKS, ARI.
>> THANKS, ARI. GOOD LUCK TO TONIGHT.
GOOD LUCK TO TONIGHT. >> TONIGHT DONALD TRUMP FACES
>> TONIGHT DONALD TRUMP FACES MOUNTING PRESSURE.
MOUNTING PRESSURE. A FEDERAL JURY WILL TAKE THIS
A FEDERAL JURY WILL TAKE THIS WEEKEND OFF BEFORE RESUMING
WEEKEND OFF BEFORE RESUMING THESE DELIBERATIONS ON THE FATE
THESE DELIBERATIONS ON THE FATE OF HIS CAMPAIGN MANAGER PAUL
OF HIS CAMPAIGN MANAGER PAUL MANAFORT AND BOB MUELLER NOW
MANAFORT AND BOB MUELLER NOW TONIGHT RECOMMENDING JAIL TIME
TONIGHT RECOMMENDING JAIL TIME FOR GEORGE PAPADOPOULOS.
FOR GEORGE PAPADOPOULOS. NEW WARNINGS THAT REPUBLICANS
NEW WARNINGS THAT REPUBLICANS NOT ONLY TRAIL DEMOCRATS BY SIX
NOT ONLY TRAIL DEMOCRATS BY SIX POINTS IN POLLING OVER WHO COULD
POINTS IN POLLING OVER WHO COULD WIN THE MID-TERMS BUT A BLUE
WIN THE MID-TERMS BUT A BLUE WAVE COULD MARK AN END TO THE
WAVE COULD MARK AN END TO THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY.
TRUMP PRESIDENCY. THAT MAY BE MOTIVATING FOR MANY
THAT MAY BE MOTIVATING FOR MANY LIBERAL VOTERS.
LIBERAL VOTERS. TAKE THIS NEW VIDEO THAT'S
TAKE THIS NEW VIDEO THAT'S AIMING TO RILE UP CONSERVATIVE
AIMING TO RILE UP CONSERVATIVE TURNOUT BY ARGUING THIS IS NOW A
TURNOUT BY ARGUING THIS IS NOW A WAR FOR THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY.
WAR FOR THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY. IT COMES FROM A MULTIMILLION
IT COMES FROM A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR CAMPAIGN BY FORMER TRUMP
DOLLAR CAMPAIGN BY FORMER TRUMP CAMPAIGN CHAIR STEVE BANNON
CAMPAIGN CHAIR STEVE BANNON RETURNING FROM EXILE TO HELP
RETURNING FROM EXILE TO HELP CONGRESSIONAL REPUBLICANS
CONGRESSIONAL REPUBLICANS WHETHER THEY WANT HIS HELP OR
WHETHER THEY WANT HIS HELP OR NOT.
NOT. BANNON IS ONE OF THE MOST
BANNON IS ONE OF THE MOST CONTROVERSIAL FIGURES IN U.S.
CONTROVERSIAL FIGURES IN U.S. POLITICS FOR MANY REASONS.
POLITICS FOR MANY REASONS. BUT IT CAN BE HARD TO SEE WHAT'S
BUT IT CAN BE HARD TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE MIDTERMS
HAPPENING IN THE MIDTERMS WITHOUT SEEING WHAT HE'S UP TO.
WITHOUT SEEING WHAT HE'S UP TO. PEOPLE CAN'T DECIDE WHAT TO DO
PEOPLE CAN'T DECIDE WHAT TO DO ABOUT DEVELOPMENTS IN OUR
ABOUT DEVELOPMENTS IN OUR POLITICS IF WHAT'S HAPPENING IS
POLITICS IF WHAT'S HAPPENING IS NOT EXPOSED OR NOT KNOWN OR NOT
NOT EXPOSED OR NOT KNOWN OR NOT CONFRONTED.
CONFRONTED. WHILE BANNON HAS TRIED A BIG
WHILE BANNON HAS TRIED A BIG ROLE IN POLITICS, HE RARELY GOES
ROLE IN POLITICS, HE RARELY GOES ON TV, HE HAS NEVER TAKEN
ON TV, HE HAS NEVER TAKEN QUESTIONS FROM AN MSNBC ANALYST
QUESTIONS FROM AN MSNBC ANALYST ON AIR.
ON AIR. THAT CHANGES TONIGHT.
THAT CHANGES TONIGHT. PLUS, INDEPENDENT ANALYSIS,
PLUS, INDEPENDENT ANALYSIS, ADVERSARIAL REACTION AND FACT
ADVERSARIAL REACTION AND FACT CHECKING FROM OUR PANEL OF
CHECKING FROM OUR PANEL OF JOURNALISTS AND POLITICAL
JOURNALISTS AND POLITICAL ANALYSTS WHO ARE WITH ME LIVE.
ANALYSTS WHO ARE WITH ME LIVE. I WANT TO BE CLEAR UP FRONT,
I WANT TO BE CLEAR UP FRONT, THIS INTERVIEW HAD NO GROUND
THIS INTERVIEW HAD NO GROUND RULES, NOTHING OFF LIMITS.
RULES, NOTHING OFF LIMITS. WE TALKED ABOUT BANNON'S PROJECT
WE TALKED ABOUT BANNON'S PROJECT FOR THE MID-TERMS, HIS DONORS,
FOR THE MID-TERMS, HIS DONORS, HIS POLITICAL RECORD, THE TIME'S
HIS POLITICAL RECORD, THE TIME'S UP MOVEMENT, HIS VIEW OF JAMES
UP MOVEMENT, HIS VIEW OF JAMES COMEY'S FIRES AND WHY MUELLER
COMEY'S FIRES AND WHY MUELLER VIEWS HIM AS A WITNESS TO BOTH
VIEWS HIM AS A WITNESS TO BOTH THE COLLUSION AND OBSTRUCTION
THE COLLUSION AND OBSTRUCTION INVESTIGATION THAT'S GOING ON
INVESTIGATION THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
RIGHT NOW. BANNON ALSO RECOUNTS THE FIRST
BANNON ALSO RECOUNTS THE FIRST TIME HE AND MUELLER EVER SPOKE
TIME HE AND MUELLER EVER SPOKE AT THE DOORWAY TO DONALD TRUMP'S
AT THE DOORWAY TO DONALD TRUMP'S OVAL OFFICE.
OVAL OFFICE. HERE IS PART OF OUR DISCUSSION
HERE IS PART OF OUR DISCUSSION STARTING WITH THE MIDTERMS.
STARTING WITH THE MIDTERMS. >> LET'S START WITH THE
>> LET'S START WITH THE MIDTERMS.
MIDTERMS. IF THEY WERE HELD TODAY, WHO DO
IF THEY WERE HELD TODAY, WHO DO YOU THINK WOULD WIN THE HOUSE?
YOU THINK WOULD WIN THE HOUSE? >> I THINK IF THEY WERE HELD
>> I THINK IF THEY WERE HELD TODAY, WE'D HAVE A TOUGH TIME
TODAY, WE'D HAVE A TOUGH TIME HOLDING THE HOUSE.
HOLDING THE HOUSE. I REALLY DO.
I REALLY DO. I THINK IT COULD BE NORTH OF 25
I THINK IT COULD BE NORTH OF 25 MAYBE 30 SEATS.
MAYBE 30 SEATS. MAYBE NORTH OF THAT.
MAYBE NORTH OF THAT. THE PEOPLE ARE PROJECTING 45 OR
THE PEOPLE ARE PROJECTING 45 OR 50 SEATS.
50 SEATS. I BELIEVE BY NOVEMBER 6th, WE'RE
I BELIEVE BY NOVEMBER 6th, WE'RE GOING TO WIN THIS.
GOING TO WIN THIS. I THINK ALL THIS TAKES IS PEOPLE
I THINK ALL THIS TAKES IS PEOPLE ON OUR SIDE OF THE FOOTBALL
ON OUR SIDE OF THE FOOTBALL FOCUSSING ON WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN.
FOCUSSING ON WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN. THIS IS AN UP OR DOWN VOTE ON
THIS IS AN UP OR DOWN VOTE ON PRESIDENT TRUMP.
PRESIDENT TRUMP. THIS ELECTION WILL COME AS A
THIS ELECTION WILL COME AS A REFERENDUM ON HIM.
REFERENDUM ON HIM. HE PERMEATES THE ENTIRE
HE PERMEATES THE ENTIRE POLITICAL CULTURE.
POLITICAL CULTURE. I THINK THOSE AROUND HIM ARE
I THINK THOSE AROUND HIM ARE TELLING HIM, HEY, IT IS OKAY TO
TELLING HIM, HEY, IT IS OKAY TO LOSE THE HOUSE.
LOSE THE HOUSE. YOU CAN WORK WITH THE DEMOCRATS
YOU CAN WORK WITH THE DEMOCRATS AND WORK WITH A DEMOCRAT HOUSE
AND WORK WITH A DEMOCRAT HOUSE IN 2020 IS BAD ADVICE.
IN 2020 IS BAD ADVICE. I HAVE MADE A FILM THAT'S
I HAVE MADE A FILM THAT'S FOCUSSED ON GETTING OUT THE
FOCUSSED ON GETTING OUT THE TRUMP BASE, THE DEPLORABLES PLUS
TRUMP BASE, THE DEPLORABLES PLUS THE BLUE COLLAR DEMOCRATS.
THE BLUE COLLAR DEMOCRATS. THE OPPOSITION PARTY MEDIA AND
THE OPPOSITION PARTY MEDIA AND THE DEMOCRATS SUCCEED IN ONE
THE DEMOCRATS SUCCEED IN ONE THING.
THING. I THINK THEY DEAD GET A DO-OVER
I THINK THEY DEAD GET A DO-OVER TO 2016 AND I THINK THIS IS HIS
TO 2016 AND I THINK THIS IS HIS FIRST RE-ELECT.
FIRST RE-ELECT. >> YOU SAID YOU WILL SAVE THE
>> YOU SAID YOU WILL SAVE THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY IN THESE
TRUMP PRESIDENCY IN THESE MIDTERMS.
MIDTERMS. DOES HE KNOW HE NEEDS YOU TO
DOES HE KNOW HE NEEDS YOU TO SAVE HIM?
SAVE HIM? >> I DON'T THINK THE QUOTE WAS
>> I DON'T THINK THE QUOTE WAS WE'RE GOING TO SAVE HIM.
WE'RE GOING TO SAVE HIM. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS GET
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS GET THIS MESSAGE FOCUSSED.
THIS MESSAGE FOCUSSED. THE MESSAGE IS ABOUT PRESIDENT
THE MESSAGE IS ABOUT PRESIDENT TRUMP, A REFERENDUM ON PRESIDENT
TRUMP, A REFERENDUM ON PRESIDENT TRUMP.
TRUMP. TO ME IT IS AN UP OR DOWN VOTE.
TO ME IT IS AN UP OR DOWN VOTE. I THINK THE DEMOCRATS ARE
I THINK THE DEMOCRATS ARE RUNNING AS AN IMPEACHMENT
RUNNING AS AN IMPEACHMENT CAMPAIGN.
CAMPAIGN. I THINK OUR SIDE HAS TO
I THINK OUR SIDE HAS TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
UNDERSTAND THAT. YOU JUST CAN'T RUN ON TAX CUTS.
YOU JUST CAN'T RUN ON TAX CUTS. YOU HAVE TO RUN ON THE ENTIRE
YOU HAVE TO RUN ON THE ENTIRE PACKAGE OF THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY.
PACKAGE OF THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY. >> YOU THINK IMPEACHMENT IS ON
>> YOU THINK IMPEACHMENT IS ON THE BALLOT WHY?
THE BALLOT WHY? >> THE GRASS ROOTS OF THE
>> THE GRASS ROOTS OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAVE PUT IT ON
DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAVE PUT IT ON THE BALLOT AND SO HAS NANCY PEL
THE BALLOT AND SO HAS NANCY PEL LOW SIS
LOW SIS PELOSI
PELOSI PELOSI.
PELOSI. IF THE CONGRESSMEN IN YOUR
IF THE CONGRESSMEN IN YOUR DISTRICT, YOU HAVE TO COME OUT
DISTRICT, YOU HAVE TO COME OUT TO HELP PRESIDENT TRUMP.
TO HELP PRESIDENT TRUMP. THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THESE
THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THESE DISTRICTS IN JULY IN 90 DEGREE
DISTRICTS IN JULY IN 90 DEGREE HEAT GOING DOOR TO DOOR.
HEAT GOING DOOR TO DOOR. THE REASON THEY'RE GOING DOOR TO
THE REASON THEY'RE GOING DOOR TO DOOR IS THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT
DOOR IS THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE IMPEACHMENT OF PRESIDENT
THE IMPEACHMENT OF PRESIDENT TRUMP.
TRUMP. ALL WE'RE SAYING IS, HEY, IT IS
ALL WE'RE SAYING IS, HEY, IT IS ALREADY ON THE BALLOT.
ALREADY ON THE BALLOT. LET'S DO IT.
LET'S DO IT. >> YOUR NEW GROUP OF CITIZENS OF
>> YOUR NEW GROUP OF CITIZENS OF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC.
THE AMERICAN PUBLIC. YOU SAY WE'RE AT WAR.
YOU SAY WE'RE AT WAR. WHAT DOES THAT REALLY MEAN?
WHAT DOES THAT REALLY MEAN? >> THE FILM SAYS TRUMP AT WAR.
>> THE FILM SAYS TRUMP AT WAR. TRUMP IS AT WAR ABOUT THE
TRUMP IS AT WAR ABOUT THE POLITICAL CLASS.
POLITICAL CLASS. >> IT IS YOUR FILM.
>> IT IS YOUR FILM. >> IT IS A FILM CALLED "TRUMP AT
>> IT IS A FILM CALLED "TRUMP AT WAR."
WAR." IT SHOWS YOU HE IS AT WAR WITH
IT SHOWS YOU HE IS AT WAR WITH THE OPPOSITION PARTY MEDIA AND
THE OPPOSITION PARTY MEDIA AND BASICALLY HE'S AT ECONOMIC WAR
BASICALLY HE'S AT ECONOMIC WAR WITH CHINA.
WITH CHINA. AND, SO, I THINK THAT WHEN YOU
AND, SO, I THINK THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS FILM YOU SEE THAT
LOOK AT THIS FILM YOU SEE THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP IS A DISRUPTER
PRESIDENT TRUMP IS A DISRUPTER AND AN INNOVATOR.
AND AN INNOVATOR. YOU SEE HE IS KIND OF DELIVERING
YOU SEE HE IS KIND OF DELIVERING ON THE PROMISES HE PUT FORWARD
ON THE PROMISES HE PUT FORWARD TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, THAT
TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, THAT HE'S NOT INTO JUST MANAGING THE
HE'S NOT INTO JUST MANAGING THE DECLINE OF THE COUNTRY, BUT HE'S
DECLINE OF THE COUNTRY, BUT HE'S GOING TO TRY TO TURN THE COUNTRY
GOING TO TRY TO TURN THE COUNTRY AROUND.
AROUND. IT IS A FILM THAT IS FOCUSSED ON
IT IS A FILM THAT IS FOCUSSED ON GETTING OUR BASE JACKED UP AND
GETTING OUR BASE JACKED UP AND OUR BASE OUT.
OUR BASE OUT. BECAUSE IF WE DON'T GET OUR BASE
BECAUSE IF WE DON'T GET OUR BASE OUT ON NOVEMBER 6th, WE'LL HAVE
OUT ON NOVEMBER 6th, WE'LL HAVE A BAD DAY AT THE POLLS.
A BAD DAY AT THE POLLS. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT THE
IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT THE TRUMP VOTER, THE INVISIBLE TRUMP
TRUMP VOTER, THE INVISIBLE TRUMP VOTER SHOW UP LIKE A
VOTER SHOW UP LIKE A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.
PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. >> WHAT DO YOU SAY TO
>> WHAT DO YOU SAY TO REPUBLICANS WHO SAY WHY SHOULD
REPUBLICANS WHO SAY WHY SHOULD THEY TAKE YOUR HELP IF YOU
THEY TAKE YOUR HELP IF YOU HAVEN'T BACKED WINNING
HAVEN'T BACKED WINNING CANDIDATES THUS FAR?
CANDIDATES THUS FAR? >> I THINK I DID BACK WINNING
>> I THINK I DID BACK WINNING CANDIDATES IN THE PRIMARY.
CANDIDATES IN THE PRIMARY. THE REPUBLICAN ESTABLISHMENT IN
THE REPUBLICAN ESTABLISHMENT IN ALABAMA, ROY MOORE SPECIFICALLY.
ALABAMA, ROY MOORE SPECIFICALLY. ROY MOORE WOULD HAVE WON THAT
ROY MOORE WOULD HAVE WON THAT ELECTION IF MITCH McCONNELL AND
ELECTION IF MITCH McCONNELL AND THESE OTHERS HADN'T TURNED
THESE OTHERS HADN'T TURNED AGAINST HIM.
AGAINST HIM. WE HAVE A VERY GOOD FEEL ON HOW
WE HAVE A VERY GOOD FEEL ON HOW TO WIN.
TO WIN. I HAVE BEEN VERY INVOLVED IN
I HAVE BEEN VERY INVOLVED IN THIS SINCE THE TEA PARTY, YOU
THIS SINCE THE TEA PARTY, YOU KNOW, THE TEA PARTY ELECTION IN
KNOW, THE TEA PARTY ELECTION IN 2010.
2010. SO I THINK WE HAVE A VERY GOOD
SO I THINK WE HAVE A VERY GOOD IDEA OF HOW TO MAKE THESE FILMS
IDEA OF HOW TO MAKE THESE FILMS AND GET PEOPLE OUT.
AND GET PEOPLE OUT. >> HOW CAN YOU BLAME REPUBLICANS
>> HOW CAN YOU BLAME REPUBLICANS IN WASHINGTON FOR WHAT HAPPENED
IN WASHINGTON FOR WHAT HAPPENED IN ALABAMA?
IN ALABAMA? >> HE CAME OUT ON SUNDAY MORNING
>> HE CAME OUT ON SUNDAY MORNING ON NATIONAL TV AND SAID I'M NOT
ON NATIONAL TV AND SAID I'M NOT VOTING FOR ROY MOORE.
VOTING FOR ROY MOORE. McCONNELL WAS THE GUY -- IT IS
McCONNELL WAS THE GUY -- IT IS THE REPUBLICAN ESTABLISHMENT
THE REPUBLICAN ESTABLISHMENT THAT DUMPED ALL THIS STUFF TO
THAT DUMPED ALL THIS STUFF TO THE WASHINGTON POST THAT TURNED
THE WASHINGTON POST THAT TURNED AGAINST HIM WHEN THEIR CANDIDATE
AGAINST HIM WHEN THEIR CANDIDATE GOT SMOKED IN THE PRIMARY.
GOT SMOKED IN THE PRIMARY. SO IT WAS THE REPUBLICAN
SO IT WAS THE REPUBLICAN ESTABLISHMENT THAT SAID FROM DAY
ESTABLISHMENT THAT SAID FROM DAY ONE, WE'RE NOT ONLY GOING TO
ONE, WE'RE NOT ONLY GOING TO SUPPORT ROY MOORE, THEY WERE
SUPPORT ROY MOORE, THEY WERE MEETING TO UNSEAT ROY MOORE AND
MEETING TO UNSEAT ROY MOORE AND UNSEAT HIM IF HE WON.
UNSEAT HIM IF HE WON. THAT WAS THE REPUBLICAN
THAT WAS THE REPUBLICAN ESTABLISHMENT TURNING AGAINST
ESTABLISHMENT TURNING AGAINST HIM.
HIM. >> HOW MUCH MONEY DOES YOUR
>> HOW MUCH MONEY DOES YOUR GROUP HAVE?
GROUP HAVE? >> WE'VE RAISED, YOU KNOW, QUITE
>> WE'VE RAISED, YOU KNOW, QUITE A BIT OF MONEY.
A BIT OF MONEY. WE MADE A PRETTY IMPRESSIVE
WE MADE A PRETTY IMPRESSIVE FILM.
FILM. I HAVE A 25 PERSON STAFF.
I HAVE A 25 PERSON STAFF. WE RUN A WAR ROOM EVERY DAY.
WE RUN A WAR ROOM EVERY DAY. WE DO TALKING POINTS.
WE DO TALKING POINTS. >> $5 MILLION?
>> $5 MILLION? >> OVER $5 MILLION, YES.
>> OVER $5 MILLION, YES. >> OVER $10 MILLION.
>> OVER $10 MILLION. >> I DON'T WANT TO PUT A
>> I DON'T WANT TO PUT A SPECIFIC NUMBER ON IT.
SPECIFIC NUMBER ON IT. >> IS IT FAIR TO SAY BETWEEN $5
>> IS IT FAIR TO SAY BETWEEN $5 MILLION AND $10 MILLION.
MILLION AND $10 MILLION. >> WE HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCES
>> WE HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCES POURING IN FROM DO NORS AND WE
POURING IN FROM DO NORS AND WE WILL START A SMALL DO NOR
WILL START A SMALL DO NOR PROGRAM.
PROGRAM. I HAVE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM
I HAVE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM GETTING RESOURCES.
GETTING RESOURCES. YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT WAS WITH
YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT WAS WITH BREITBART OR DOING OTHER THINGS.
BREITBART OR DOING OTHER THINGS. >> YOU'RE ALSO VERY RICH AND YOU
>> YOU'RE ALSO VERY RICH AND YOU KNOW A LOT OF RICH PEOPLE.
KNOW A LOT OF RICH PEOPLE. >> I HAVE HAD A PRETTY GOOD RUN
>> I HAVE HAD A PRETTY GOOD RUN AND I KNOW SOME HIGH NET WORTH
AND I KNOW SOME HIGH NET WORTH INDIVIDUALS.
INDIVIDUALS. >> WHO IS FUNDING THIS GROUP?
>> WHO IS FUNDING THIS GROUP? >> PRIVATE DO NORNORSDONORS.
>> PRIVATE DO NORNORSDONORS. >> WHY NOT TELL PEOPLE WHO THEY
>> WHY NOT TELL PEOPLE WHO THEY ARE?
ARE? THE LAW ALLOWS YOU TO GO PUBLIC
THE LAW ALLOWS YOU TO GO PUBLIC OR PRIVATE.
OR PRIVATE. >> IF DO NORNORS WANT TO COME
>> IF DO NORNORS WANT TO COME FORWARD, THEY CAN.
FORWARD, THEY CAN. I THINK YOU WOULD SAY THAT WE
I THINK YOU WOULD SAY THAT WE ARE VERY MUCH FOCUSSED ON --
ARE VERY MUCH FOCUSSED ON -- WE'RE THE CHINA HAWK, C4.
WE'RE THE CHINA HAWK, C4. I'M VERY UP FRONT ON WHAT THE
I'M VERY UP FRONT ON WHAT THE SITUATION IS WITH CHINA AND
SITUATION IS WITH CHINA AND THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT BACK THIS
THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT BACK THIS THAT ARE CHINA HAWKS.
THAT ARE CHINA HAWKS. >> FOR THEM, THEY WANT TO MAKE
>> FOR THEM, THEY WANT TO MAKE MONEY OFF OF WHAT COMES OFF OF
MONEY OFF OF WHAT COMES OFF OF THESE ELECTIONS BECAUSE OF THEIR
THESE ELECTIONS BECAUSE OF THEIR POSITIONS WITH CHINA.
POSITIONS WITH CHINA. >> NO, NO, NO.
>> NO, NO, NO. IT IS BECAUSE OF THEIR PAY
IT IS BECAUSE OF THEIR PAY PATRIOTISM.
PATRIOTISM. >> IS THERE ANYONE YOU WOULD NOT
>> IS THERE ANYONE YOU WOULD NOT TAKE MONEY FROM?
TAKE MONEY FROM? >> WELL, I WOULD NOT TAKE MONEY
>> WELL, I WOULD NOT TAKE MONEY FROM FOREIGNERS, RIGHT?
FROM FOREIGNERS, RIGHT? I'M PRETTY SELECTIVE ABOUT WHO I
I'M PRETTY SELECTIVE ABOUT WHO I TAKE MONEY FROM.
TAKE MONEY FROM. I HAVE ALWAYS HAD GREAT
I HAVE ALWAYS HAD GREAT PARTNERS.
PARTNERS. BUT I HAVE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM
BUT I HAVE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM RAISING MONEY.
RAISING MONEY. I THINK YOU HAVE SEEN
I THINK YOU HAVE SEEN PARTICULARLY IN WALL STREET AND
PARTICULARLY IN WALL STREET AND OTHERS YOU SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE
OTHERS YOU SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT COME FROM BLUE COLLAR
THAT COME FROM BLUE COLLAR BACKGROUNDS THAT LIKE THIS
BACKGROUNDS THAT LIKE THIS POPULISM, THAT LIKE THE TRUMP
POPULISM, THAT LIKE THE TRUMP PROGRAM THAT ARE PRETTY
PROGRAM THAT ARE PRETTY SUPPORTIVE.
SUPPORTIVE. >> YOUR CRITICS SAY YOU TALK A
>> YOUR CRITICS SAY YOU TALK A LOT OF SMACK ABOUT WALL STREET
LOT OF SMACK ABOUT WALL STREET BUT THEN YOU ARE FUNDED BY WALL
BUT THEN YOU ARE FUNDED BY WALL STREET.
STREET. >> NOT FUNDED BY WALL STREET BUT
>> NOT FUNDED BY WALL STREET BUT CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS.
CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS. >> YOU TOLD ME IT INCLUDES
>> YOU TOLD ME IT INCLUDES PEOPLE WITH A POSITION IN CHINA
PEOPLE WITH A POSITION IN CHINA IS WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
IS WHAT YOU JUST SAID. >> PEOPLE THAT UNDERSTAND OUR
>> PEOPLE THAT UNDERSTAND OUR POSITION IN CHINA, PEOPLE THAT
POSITION IN CHINA, PEOPLE THAT UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE THE CHINA
UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE THE CHINA HAWKS.
HAWKS. >> THE QUESTION YOU UNDERSTAND,
>> THE QUESTION YOU UNDERSTAND, THOUGH, IS HOW DO YOU TAKE ON
THOUGH, IS HOW DO YOU TAKE ON WALL STREET IF YOU ARE FUNDED BY
WALL STREET IF YOU ARE FUNDED BY WALL STREET.
WALL STREET. >> INDIVIDUALS ON WALL STREET,
>> INDIVIDUALS ON WALL STREET, SOME OF THE BIGGEST GUYS ON WALL
SOME OF THE BIGGEST GUYS ON WALL STREET ARE QUITE ANTI THE ANTICS
STREET ARE QUITE ANTI THE ANTICS THAT WALL STREET HAS BEEN UP TO.
THAT WALL STREET HAS BEEN UP TO. YOU KNOW WHAT THE GAME IS.
YOU KNOW WHAT THE GAME IS. JUST BECAUSE YOU MADE SOME MONEY
JUST BECAUSE YOU MADE SOME MONEY ON WALL STREET OR JUST BECAUSE
ON WALL STREET OR JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE CURRENTLY IN A HEDGE
YOU ARE CURRENTLY IN A HEDGE FUND DOESN'T MEAN YOU DON'T KNOW
FUND DOESN'T MEAN YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PRACTICES OF WALL
WHAT THE PRACTICES OF WALL STREET ARE.
STREET ARE. IN FACT, I THINK IT'S BEEN A
IN FACT, I THINK IT'S BEEN A GREAT WAY FOR SOME PEOPLE THAT
GREAT WAY FOR SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE BLUE COLLAR, COME FROM BLUE
ARE BLUE COLLAR, COME FROM BLUE COLLAR BACKGROUNDS TO GET AHEAD.
COLLAR BACKGROUNDS TO GET AHEAD. >> THE MAIN PIECE OF ECONOMIC
>> THE MAIN PIECE OF ECONOMIC LEGISLATION THAT HAS BEEN PASSED
LEGISLATION THAT HAS BEEN PASSED IN THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS
IN THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS THE TAX BILL.
THE TAX BILL. MOST OF THOSE BENEFITS GO TO THE
MOST OF THOSE BENEFITS GO TO THE VERY WEALTHY.
VERY WEALTHY. IS THAT A MISTAKE?
IS THAT A MISTAKE? >> HANG ON A SECOND.
>> HANG ON A SECOND. THE CENTRAL PART OF THE TAX BILL
THE CENTRAL PART OF THE TAX BILL WAS ALSO THE CORPORATE TAX BILL
WAS ALSO THE CORPORATE TAX BILL TO MAKE SURE WE WERE COMPETITIVE
TO MAKE SURE WE WERE COMPETITIVE WITH GERMANY AND CHINA.
WITH GERMANY AND CHINA. IF YOU LOOK AT MANUFACTURING
IF YOU LOOK AT MANUFACTURING COMING BACK HERE, IT IS PART AND
COMING BACK HERE, IT IS PART AND PARCEL OF THE SITUATION WE'RE IN
PARCEL OF THE SITUATION WE'RE IN WITH THE TARIFFS, THE ECONOMIC
WITH THE TARIFFS, THE ECONOMIC PACKAGE AND THE TAX PACKAGE,
PACKAGE AND THE TAX PACKAGE, THAT WAS THE CENTRAL PART OF IT.
THAT WAS THE CENTRAL PART OF IT. >> ARE YOU GLOBAL?
>> ARE YOU GLOBAL? >> NOT GLOBALLY.
>> NOT GLOBALLY. I'M TALKING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED
I'M TALKING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED HERE.
HERE. WHAT HAPPENED HERE IN
WHAT HAPPENED HERE IN MANUFACTURING JOBS COMING BACK.
MANUFACTURING JOBS COMING BACK. THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE GOT SUCH
THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE GOT SUCH ECONOMIC GROWTH IN THE COUNTRY.
ECONOMIC GROWTH IN THE COUNTRY. ONE OF THE REASONS IS THE TAX
ONE OF THE REASONS IS THE TAX BILL.
BILL. NOW, I WASN'T TOTALLY -- I
NOW, I WASN'T TOTALLY -- I DIDN'T ACTUALLY LOVE SOME OF THE
DIDN'T ACTUALLY LOVE SOME OF THE THINGS ON THE INDEX.
THINGS ON THE INDEX. WALL STREET JOURNAL REPORTED IN
WALL STREET JOURNAL REPORTED IN THE IN THE OVAL OFFICE.
THE IN THE OVAL OFFICE. I LOST THAT FIGHT.
I LOST THAT FIGHT. NOT THAT THAT CAN'T BE
NOT THAT THAT CAN'T BE RE-ADDRESSED SOMETIME IN THE
RE-ADDRESSED SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE.
FUTURE. >> WHEN YOU SEE 83% GOING TO THE
>> WHEN YOU SEE 83% GOING TO THE TOP 1%, IS THAT TOO MUCH?
TOP 1%, IS THAT TOO MUCH? >> I THINK WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS
>> I THINK WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH CORPORATE
WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH CORPORATE AMERICA IS THAT CORPORATE
AMERICA IS THAT CORPORATE AMERICA IS BECOMING MORE
AMERICA IS BECOMING MORE COMPETITIVE AND WE'RE REPATRIOTS
COMPETITIVE AND WE'RE REPATRIOTS TO COME BACK HERE AND INVEST IN
TO COME BACK HERE AND INVEST IN THE UNITED STATES.
THE UNITED STATES. I THINK IT IS ABOUT
I THINK IT IS ABOUT MANUFACTURING JOBS.
MANUFACTURING JOBS. IF YOU LOOK AT PRESIDENT'S
IF YOU LOOK AT PRESIDENT'S TRUMP'S OVER ALL AGAIN DARKSENDA
TRUMP'S OVER ALL AGAIN DARKSENDA WORKING.
WORKING. >> THE PRESIDENT WENT TO
>> THE PRESIDENT WENT TO MAR-A-LAGO AND TOLD PEOPLE THE
MAR-A-LAGO AND TOLD PEOPLE THE TAX BILL, QUOTE, YOU ALL JUST
TAX BILL, QUOTE, YOU ALL JUST GOT A LOT RICHER.
GOT A LOT RICHER. IS THAT YOUR POPULISM?
IS THAT YOUR POPULISM? >> I THINK POPULISM, WHEN YOU
>> I THINK POPULISM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT PRESIDENT TRUMP, IS
LOOK AT PRESIDENT TRUMP, IS ABOUT HIS ENTIRE PROGRAM.
ABOUT HIS ENTIRE PROGRAM. THIS TAX CUT WAS FOCUSSED ON
THIS TAX CUT WAS FOCUSSED ON INDUSTRIAL TAX CUT.
INDUSTRIAL TAX CUT. IT WAS TO MAKE THE MANUFACTURING
IT WAS TO MAKE THE MANUFACTURING SIDE OF THIS COUNTRY STRONGER.
SIDE OF THIS COUNTRY STRONGER. WE HAD THE 100%, YOU KNOW,
WE HAD THE 100%, YOU KNOW, WRITE-OFF OF CAPITAL
WRITE-OFF OF CAPITAL EXPENDITURE.
EXPENDITURE. THIS WAS ALL ABOUT REBUILDING
THIS WAS ALL ABOUT REBUILDING THE MANUFACTURING BASE.
THE MANUFACTURING BASE. AM I TOTALLY EXCITED ABOUT EVERY
AM I TOTALLY EXCITED ABOUT EVERY ASPECT OF THE TAX BILL?
ASPECT OF THE TAX BILL? NOT THAT EXCITED.
NOT THAT EXCITED. REMEMBER, I WAS A BIG SUPPORTER
REMEMBER, I WAS A BIG SUPPORTER OF PAUL RYAN'S BORDER
OF PAUL RYAN'S BORDER ADJUSTABILITY TAX AND THAT
ADJUSTABILITY TAX AND THAT DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE.
DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE. SO WE WENT TO PLAN B.