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  • >> Stephen: WELCOME BACK, EVERYBODY.

  • MY GUEST TONIGHT IS THE 56TH GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF

  • NEW YORK.

  • PLEASE WELCOME GOVERNOR ANDREW CUOMO!

  • THANKS SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH US, GOVERNOR, AND THANK YOU FOR

  • EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING TO KEEP OUR STATE SAFE AND THE PUBLIC

  • INFORMED.

  • >> THANK YOU.

  • >> Stephen: HOW ARE YOU?

  • I'M DOING WELL.

  • SO FAR, SO GOOD.

  • AS WELL AS I CAN BE DOING UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES, ANYWAY,

  • STEPHEN.

  • THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

  • PLEASURE TO BE WITH YOU.

  • I'M A BIG FAN.

  • >> Stephen: WELL, SIR, I KNOW YOU'RE SEQUESTERED RIGHT NOW

  • WITH ADULT CHILDREN.

  • THAT'S IN YOUR LITTLE QUARANTINE BUBBLE.

  • HOW IS THAT, HAVING THE ADULT KIDS AT HOME WITH YOU?

  • >> THAT'S ACTUALLY COOL.

  • YOU KNOW, MY KIDS ARE 22, 25 AND 25 TWINS, THREE GIRLS.

  • I NORMALLY CAN'T GET THEM TO COME HOME TO VISIT ME, STEPHEN.

  • I NORMALLY HAVE TO PAY THEM TO COME VISIT ME.

  • THEY WANT TO CHECK WHEN THEY COME.

  • >> Stephen: SURE.

  • O TO HAVE THEM WITH ME HAS REALLY BEEN A SILVER LINING IN A

  • WEIRD WAY, YOU KNOW.

  • >> Stephen: YES.

  • BECAUSE THEY'RE OUT THERE LIVING THEIR LIFE, THE LAST

  • THING THEY WANT TO GO IS GO HANG OUT WITH DAD IN ALBANY, YOU

  • KNOW.

  • >> Stephen: I KNOW.

  • BUT THEY HAVE BEEN HERE, AND IT'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL TO ME

  • BECAUSE, WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON, IT'S JUST VERY GROUNDING FOR

  • ME TO GO HOME AND HAVE THEM THERE AND HEAR THEIR ABUSE,

  • WHICH I'M ACCUSTOMED TO AND COMES FROM A GOOD PLACE.

  • >> Stephen: HOW ABOUT THE BOYFRIEND?

  • IS THE BOYFRIEND STILL WITH YOU?

  • >> THE BOYFRIEND IS STILL WITH US, YES.

  • >> Stephen: AND WE LIKE THE BOYFRIEND?

  • >> YES, WE LIKE THE BOYFRIEND.

  • OFFICIAL COMMENT, WE LIKE THE BOYFRIEND.

  • PERSONAL COMMENT, I LIKE THE BOYFRIEND.

  • I LEARNED THAT LESSON THE HARD WAY, YOU HAVE TO SAY YOU LIKE

  • THE BOYFRIEND, NO MATTER WHATEVER YOU FEEL BECAUSE

  • THEY'RE STILL IN THE REBELLION PHASE.

  • IF YOU SAY YOU DON'T LIKE THE BOYFRIEND, THEY WILL MAR BY THE

  • BOYFRIEND TO SPITE YOU.

  • SO, YES, I LIKE THE BOYFRIEND.

  • >> Stephen: AND HERE'S WHY I THINK YOU LIKE THE BOYFRIEND

  • BECAUSE YOU'RE WILLING TO TALK ABOUT WHETHER YOU LIKE THE

  • BOYFRIEND.

  • BECAUSE IF YOU DIDN'T LIKE THE BOYFRIEND, YOU WOULD NEVER

  • MENTION THE BOYFRIEND.

  • >> I ACTUALLY LIKE THE BOIFNLD.

  • AND THE BOYFRIEND HAS BEEN IN CLOSE PRACTICE I WANT, AND IF I

  • DIDN'T LIKE THE BOYFRIEND, THAT WOULD HAVE COMMUNICATED NOW

  • THROUGH VARIOUS MEANS AND METHODS.

  • >> Stephen: I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT SOMETHING YOU TALKED

  • ABOUT IN YOUR PRESS BRIEFING YESTERDAY.

  • NEW YORK CITY OVERALL -- NEW YORK STATE OVERALL NUMBERS

  • ARE DROPPING, BUT YOU REPORTED YESTERDAY THAT IN A SURVEY OF

  • 1,300 NEW COVID PATIENTS, 66% OF THEM HAD BEEN STAYING AT HOME.

  • DO WE KNOW WHY THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE STAYING AT HOME ARE STILL

  • GETTING SICK?

  • >> YEAH, IT'S ACTUALLY INTERESTING, STEPHEN.

  • THE CLOSE-DOWN HAS WORKED SO WELL, AND WHAT WE FEARED DIDN'T

  • COME TRUE.

  • I WAS AFRAID THAT THE ESSENTIAL WORKERS WOULD HAVE A HIRING

  • IFECTION RATE -- THE HEALTHCARE, TRANSIT WORKERS, POLICE.

  • >> Stephen: MAKES SENSE.

  • THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

  • ACTUALLY, THE HEALTHCARE WORKERS, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, HAVE

  • A LOWER INFECTION RATE THAN THE GENERAL POPULATION, WHICH JUST

  • SHOWS THE P.P.E., THE MASKS, ET CETERA, ACTUALLY WORKS.

  • THE INFECTION RATE IS NOW DOWN TO AN INCREASE AMONG THOSE

  • PEOPLE WHO STAY HOME, MEANING THE CLOSE-DOWN IS WORKING.

  • WE'RE DOWN TO A LEVEL NOW WHERE IT'S PURE PERSONAL BEHAVIOR AND

  • WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE WEARING A MASK AND YOU'RE USING SANITIZER.

  • BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO ARE AT HOME WHO ARE NOT WORKING, NOT TAKING

  • PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, THAT'S THE ONLY AREA THAT WE STILL SEE

  • GROWTH, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY GOOD NEWS.

  • >> Stephen: NOW, 30 STATES ARE EITHER OPENING OR CLOSE TO

  • OPENING, BUT MOST OF THOSE STATES DON'T MEET THE FEDERAL

  • GUIDELINES, EVEN THE GUIDELINES PUT OUT BY THE WHITE HOUSE

  • THEMSELVES.

  • NEW YORK'S NOT REOPENING YET, BUT DO YOU HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE?

  • >> YEAH.

  • WE HAVE A VERY SPECIFIC PLAN, PROBABLY THE MOST SPECIFIC PLAN,

  • AND THE GOVERNING PHILOSOPHY IS -- I UNDERSTAND THE ANXIETY

  • AND THE STRESS AND WE ALL WANT THE OPEN AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE,

  • EVERYBODY DOES, MYSELF INCLUDED, BUT YOU DON'T OPERATE OUT OF

  • EMOTION AND PASSION, RIGHT?

  • YOU STAY WITH FACTS AND DATA.

  • SO WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT ALL ALONG.

  • WE FOLLOW THE SCIENCE, WE FOLLOW THE FACTS, WE FOLLOW THE DATA,

  • AND WE'RE GOING TO REOPEN BY THE DATA.

  • WE KNOW HOW MANY HOSPITALIZATIONS WE HAVE, WE

  • KNOW WHAT THE INFECTION RATE IS, WE KNOW WHAT THE TESTING RATE

  • IS.

  • FOLLOW THE DATA.

  • AND I THINK THE C.D.C. DID HAVE GUIDELINES AND, YOU'RE RIGHT,

  • MANY STATES ARE REOPENING, EVEN THOUGH THE GUIDELINES ARE NOT

  • BEING FOLLOWED.

  • WE'RE IN THE OPPOSITE PLACE.

  • NEW YORK, THE NUMBERS ARE ALL GOING DOWN ON EVERY LEVEL.

  • MANY OF THE OTHER STATES, THE NUMBERS ARE STILL GOING UP, AND

  • THEY'RE REOPENING.

  • THAT NOT ONLY VIOLATES C.D.C.

  • GUIDELINES, THAT VIOLATES COMMON SENSE AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO

  • THAT.

  • WE ARE GOING TO FOLLOW THE DATA.

  • WE ARE ON THE WAY DOWN.

  • IN ABOUT A WEEK, YOU WILL SEE SOME REGIONS IN THE STATE WITH

  • LOWER NUMBERS STARTING TO REOPEN THEIR ECONOMIES AND THEN, AS

  • THOSE NUMBERS STABILIZE, YOU WILL SEE MORE ECONOMIC GROWTH.

  • >> Stephen: WELL, YOU MADE A GOOD POINT THAT, WHILE,

  • NATIONALLY, THERE MAY BE A FLATTENING OF THE CURVE, IF YOU

  • TAKE NEW YORK, NEW JERSEY, CONNECTICUT, IF YOU TAKE THOSE

  • NUMBERS WHERE THE NUMBERS ARE GOING DOWN, IF YOU TAKE THAT OUT

  • OF THE EQUATION, FOR THE REST OF THE COUNTRY, WE'RE STILL GOING

  • UP.

  • WHAT ADVICE DO YOU HAVE FOR THE OTHER GOVERNORS WHO ARE

  • GOVERNING STATES RIGHT NOW THAT DO NOT HAVE THE SAME CRISIS

  • LEVEL OF COVID INFECTIONS THAT NEW YORK EXPERIENCED BUT ARE IN

  • NO WAY EXEMPT FROM IT JUST BECAUSE IT HASN'T HAPPENED YET.

  • >> NO, STEPHEN, I THINK IT IS SHORT-TERM -- I UNDERSTAND THE

  • SHORT-TERM BENEFIT OF OPENING.

  • THE PRESSURE TO OPEN IS TREMENDOUS.

  • THE POLITICAL PRESSURE IS TREMENDOUS.

  • PEOPLE WANT OUT.

  • THEY WANT OUT OF THE HOME.

  • PEOPLE NEED A PAYCHECK, THEY WANT TO GET BACK TO WORK, THEY

  • WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE A JOB.

  • I GET IT.

  • SO I UNDERSTAND THE SHORT-TERM PRESSURE.

  • BUT LONG TERM, WE HAVE SEEN WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN COUNTRIES THAT

  • OPEN TOO QUICKLY, AND THEN THEY WIND UP CLOSING AGAIN.

  • TO OPEN AND THEN CLOSE TWO WEEKS LATER OR THREE WEEKS LATER

  • BECAUSE THAT INFECTION RATE GOES THROUGH THE ROOF AGAIN MAKES NO

  • SENSE.

  • CALIBRATE THE OPENING AND DON'T OPEN UNTIL YOU HAVE THOSE

  • NUMBERS UNDER CONTROL.

  • NOW, YOU'RE RIGHT, NEW YORK, WE HAVE -- WE'RE ON THE DECLINE.

  • THE REST OF THE COUNTRY IS STILL ON THE INCLINE, WHEN YOU TAKE

  • OUT NEW YORK, AND IN ABOUT ONE WEEK, AGAIN, YOU WILL START TO

  • SEE SOME REGIONS OPEN, BUT I THINK IT IS A MISTAKE TO RESPOND

  • TO THE EMOTION WHEN YOU KNOW THE FACTS ARE SAYING SOMETHING

  • DIFFERENT.

  • SO I SUGGEST COMMUNICATE THE FACTS TO PEOPLE.

  • YOU KNOW, I QUOTED LINCOLN TODAY IN ONE OF MY PRESS BRIEFINGS.

  • LINCOLN REALLY BELIEVED IN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, AND HE SAID, IF

  • YOU TELL THEM THE TRUTH, THEY WILL KEEP THE COUNTRY SAFE.

  • WHAT I HAVE BEEN DOING ALL THROUGH THIS IS JUST GIVING

  • PEOPLE THE FACTS, RIGHT.

  • LAY OUT THE FACTS, AND THEY WILL DO THE RIGHT THING.

  • AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING IN NEW YORK, AND IT HAS WORKED.

  • >> Stephen: HOW IS THE COMMUNICATION AND THE

  • COOPERATION GONE BETWEEN THE -- I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY STATES IT

  • WAS IN THE NORTHEAST THAT YOU FORMED A SORT OF A COOPERATIVE

  • GROUP OF STATES, NEW YORK, NEW JERSEY, RHODE ISLAND,

  • CONNECTICUT -- >> DELAWARE, MASSACHUSETTS,

  • CONNECTICUT, YEAH.

  • WE HAVE ABOUT SEVEN STATES WE WORK WITH WHICH ARE ALL

  • BASICALLY CONTIGUOUS, RIGHT, AND IT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE THE VIRUS

  • DOESN'T STOP AT A STATE BOUNDARY, AND PEOPLE GET IN CARS

  • AND THEY DRIVE AND AMTRAK GOES THROUGH THESE STATES, SO WE'RE

  • COORDINATING THE BEST WE CAN OUR CLOSING POLICY AND OUR REOPENING

  • POLICY.

  • TO MAKE SURE WE KNOW WHAT EACH OTHER IS DOING BECAUSE, WHATEVER

  • ONE STATE DOES AFFECTS ANOTHER STATE, RIGHT?

  • WE'RE SEEING NOW SOME STATES THAT OPENED UP AND PEOPLE FROM

  • SURROUNDING STATES ARE NOW GOING TO THAT STATE.

  • IF CONNECTICUT OPENS UP BEACHES, YOU WILL SEE NEW YORKERS GOING

  • TO CONNECTICUT.

  • SO -- >> Stephen: GEORGIA ALLOWED

  • HAIRCUTS AND PEOPLE FLOODED INTO GEORGIA TO GET THEIR HAIRCUTS.

  • >> YOU HAVE SUCH A PENT-UP DEMAND, RIGHT.

  • PEOPLE WILL GO ANYWHERE.

  • PEOPLE WILL GO IN THE CAR FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS JUST TO GET OUT

  • OF THE HOUSE.

  • >> Stephen: SPEAKING OF HAIRCUTS, YOUR BROTHER CHRIS GOT

  • A VERY SHORT HAIRCUT.

  • SERIOUS QUESTION, I THOUGHT DOG GROOMERS WERE ALL CLOSED IN

  • NEW YORK.

  • >> WELL, WHERE HE WENT WAS EVEN WORSE THAN GOING TO A DOG

  • GROOMER.

  • HE HAD THE COVID VIRUS.

  • HE THEN GAVE HIS WIFE THE COVID VIRUS.

  • >> Stephen: OH, NO.

  • HE WAS QUARANTINED IN THE BASEMENT, SHE WAS QUARANTINED

  • UPSTAIRS.

  • AFTER HE GAVE HER THE COVID VIRUS, HE TOLD ME THAT SHE

  • FORGAVE HIM.

  • HE THEN GAVE HER THE SHEARS TO CUT HIS HAIR.

  • AND SHE CUT HIS HAIR LIKE DELILAH CUT SAMSON'S HAIR, AND

  • SHE GAVE IT ALL BACK TO HIM.

  • SO THAT WAS A PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE, STILL ANGRY HAIRCUT.

  • HE HAS A SHORTER HAIRCUT, I TOLD HIM IT'S LIKE A PRISON HAIRCUT.

  • >> Stephen: EXACTLY.

  • HE'S GOT A SLIGHTLY INSTITUTIONALIZED FEELING TO IT.

  • HE HAS SHOELACES STILL.

  • >> OH, YEAH.

  • >> Stephen: BACK WITH MORE GOVERNOR ANDREW CUOMO.

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