字幕表 動画を再生する 英語字幕をプリント -It's "Star Wars" day. It's May the 4th. Are you excited about May the 4th, Ricky? -It's a date, isn't it? I'm -- I'm always excited. I'm excited about every day. Every -- I celebrate every day. -[ Laughs ] -I don't know how long I've got left. So it's like, every day becomes a bigger percentage of my time left on Earth. So I celebrate it more and more. -[ Laughs ] -You -- I want to congratulate you on the second season of "After Life." This is a fantastic show. It's really funny, but it's also about -- you know, it's about things like depression, addiction, just in general, mortality. Is this always -- I mean, obviously, you know, I think from watching your comedy, people have always thought these are interesting to you. Was it an undertaking to sort of write about it? -I guess I've always been attracted to blue subjects as a comedian, particularly standup. I like to do that because I want to take the audience to a sort of scary place. So I think that's fun for me. I think comedians in general sort of like doing that. We like being scary to some extent. And comedy is a relief, isn't it? It's like, I want to take you to a scary forest and out through the other side and it's all sunny and lovely. Everything I've done has been vaguely existential. You know, "The Office" is about being 40 and making the most of your life. "Derek" was about the end of your life. And this is explicitly -- it's about, you know, losing the love of your life. And I suppose ask the big question, if you lose everything, is life still worth living? And that was the sort of -- the jumping-off point, really. A man who loses everything, he's gonna kill himself, but the dog's hungry. He doesn't. He decides to punish the world. So that's the high concept of it. And then I think it was because after the first season, I'd never had a reaction like it. People writing me letters, coming up to me in the street and saying, "Oh, I lost my brother three weeks before I watched it," or "I lost my mum last year." And they really identify with it. I liked the fact there was this show about grief and depression. And they, you know, they -- they like the character, they identify with the character. So I thought then I would have to treat it with, you know, a lot of respect. That's why he couldn't just get better. So he's going through the seven stages of grief. And so we're watching his journey. And he's trying to be well. And he's trying to be a good person, but he's really hurt. And that sounds really dark and depressing, but actually it's quite uplifting because, you know, he's got a nice bunch of friends and family, but he's wounded. And the comedy comes from that, as well, because he says and does what he wants now. He thinks he's got nothing to lose. So I suppose we sort of live vicariously through his candor. He's so free. And he's only burdened by conscience and doing the right thing. So that's -- that's the conflict. He's a nice man who's lost everything. And he's angry and hurt. And what better subject for comedy? -I -- One of the most interesting comparisons for me is because he presents as someone who doesn't need anything, it's really funny to watch you play him because I do consider David Brent to be the person who presents as the most needy person in the world. And so it is a really interesting -- just to compare the two side by side is obviously a very different performance style. -Well that's it, because David Brent, the big joke there is his blind spot. We're laughing at the difference between how he sees himself and how we see him, you know? He's a buffoon who wants to be taken seriously. And that's the staple of the comedy. It's an ordinary guy trying to do something they're not equipped to do, and that's what's funny. I suppose Tony in "After Life" is sort of the opposite. He's very self-aware. He knows what's going on, and he hates it. And that's sort of interesting, too. But I suppose -- I suppose you're right. The big -- Where they're similar and why we're all similar is that deep down, we all want to be loved. And we all need a hug whether we admit it or not. And I think that it's breaking this -- he tried to turn himself into a psychopath so he wouldn't feel pain, but he can't because he's not a psychopath. So that's the thing they've got in common, really. As I say, everyone has. We all want to be loved, deep down -- even you. -You -- Another thing consistent I've always found about your shows is there's always like one or two people in the casting that I feel like if it wasn't for you finding them, would never have been on television. And it strikes me that you have gone out of your way to cast people that looked and behaved like regular people. -Exactly. And it's so funny, because I sometimes get comments, like, what freaks, what a freak show on telly. Well, no, they're only a freak show compared to people like Brad Pitt and, you know, Tom Cruise. But that's what most English people look like. They look more like the people I cast. -[ Laughs ] -That's normal here. [ Laughs ] We are a freak show. -Yes. -So thanks for bringing that up. -It's an antidote to "Downton Abbey." Anyone who's watching "Downton Abbey" thinking that's how England is, just check out "After Life." -Yeah. -And you might -- This might be the first show that you will do a third season of. Are you actively considering that? -Yeah. Again, you know, I even did the first season like it could end there in case I got knocked over by a bus, but it went down really well. It was the most-watched British sitcom in the world, apparently. I think that's a reflection of how big Netflix are, though. I can't take credit for that, really, but people enjoyed it, so I did a second. Because I really -- I loved writing it. I loved directing it. I loved the cast. So I think for the first time ever, I might do a third, but it's got to go down the storm again. I don't want to do an unwanted encore just because I can get paid. But it seems to be -- It seems to be on the cards. If things carry on like they are, yeah, probably a third season. -Well, that's really exciting. Congrats on season two. It's always wonderful to see you. Thanks for being here, Ricky. -Cheers.