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  • - Well, let's talk about your time on some of these sets.

  • - Yeah, let's talk about it!

  • - 1997.

  • - Oh, God.

  • - Good Burger.

  • - Good year.

  • - "Welcome to Good Burger, home of the good burger."

  • - "Can I take your order?"

  • - Do people like yell that

  • at you all the time? - All the time.

  • So, I go to gaming conventions,

  • and I go to like Comic-Cons and all the stuff like that,

  • because I'm a gamer, you know what I mean,

  • and I'm a geek.

  • So, I mean like, I'm gonna go to Comic-Con anyway.

  • But, because I do all that,

  • my newest thing is I'm cosplaying, right, so--

  • - Ooo!

  • So, let me tell you,

  • I just went to my first Comic-Con in a few years.

  • The first day I went as me,

  • and I sat at my booth and did what I had to do,

  • sign my autographs, whatever.

  • The next day,

  • I put on my Monique outfit,

  • from Good Burger, and I cosplayed

  • as Monique, - Wow!

  • - And I walked through the crowd and everybody's like,

  • "Oh my God, that's so good!

  • "That's so good, spot on!"

  • - "You look just like her!"

  • - I know, right, it's crazy; I work really hard.

  • So, I thought it was badass that I could cosplay as myself,

  • so I do. - That is fantastic.

  • I have a new goal in life.

  • - Yes!

  • - I wanna be able to cosplay Tracy Clayton.

  • - Yes! Yes.

  • - I'm gonna make it work, somehow.

  • - Make it happen.

  • - How did this role come about for you,

  • like how did you hear about it?

  • - Literally that one was just a regular audition.

  • It was, my agents were like, "Oh, there's this role.",

  • and initially when they had me audition,

  • for some reason it was like a cross in communication,

  • and my manager had told me something like it was

  • for like, a Wayans brothers skit or something,

  • and I was like--

  • - Well, that's very different.

  • - Who you tellin'.

  • So, so I'm like, oh, it's like, a Wayans brother movie,

  • so this gonna be off the chain!

  • Right?

  • So I had one way of playing it in my head,

  • you know, the script, and then I got there

  • and it was like "Nickelodeon",

  • and I said, I might have to revamp all that,

  • 'cause that's not gonna, that's not gonna sit well here.

  • So, I made some adjustments,

  • and then booked the role, so.

  • - Had you...

  • I don't know what I would have done, I would have went--

  • - Dude.

  • Oh my god, no, it was a shock.

  • I was like, oh yeah I got thi-

  • Oo, wait a minute.

  • - A plot twist.

  • - Okay, put the titty up.

  • Put 'em up.

  • - Even though it's just a titty.

  • - It's just a titty.

  • - Still gotta put it away.

  • - Let's put it away.

  • - Right, right.

  • Was there a lot of like, breaks in the scene

  • for laughter and stuff? - We had so much fun.

  • That was literally the most fun I ever had

  • on any project, ever,

  • and like all we did... - Really?

  • - We were just a bunch of crazy kids,

  • havin' a good time,

  • makin' a movie about a burger.

  • - About a place that loves burgers,

  • - Yeah.

  • - That makes burgers.

  • - Have your kids seen it?

  • - Oh my God, yeah.

  • - Do they love it?

  • - So I have a granddaughter, right,

  • who's five today.

  • - Aww, happy birthday baby!

  • - It's the weirdest thing to even say that.

  • I don't even know how to fix my mouth to say those words.

  • She's five today.

  • She watches that movie constantly.

  • - Really?

  • - Constant-, like she took her tablet to the zoo today,

  • so that she can watch it while she's at the zoo.

  • - I said it's overkill, baby girl, it's overkill,

  • and she'd just look at me and say the line,

  • and I'm like okay, well.

  • - Did they also see "Moesha"?

  • - My kids have watched everything.

  • They watch my stuff; I don't even watch my stuff.

  • They watch my stuff.

  • My mom and my kids watch everything.

  • I get weird sometime

  • watching my own work.

  • - Yeah, I feel like--

  • - It's too critical.

  • - So like, as you're watching yourself,

  • you're like ah I should've done this,

  • I shouldn't have done that.

  • - Yeah, or I'll be like, damn, she sucks!

  • (both laugh)

  • But I definitely will see things, where I'm like,

  • oh, I could've done, you know, switched that up,

  • why'd they go with that take, so I don't, I don't watch it.

  • - Do your kids or anyone in your family ever call you Niecy?

  • - They will never, no.

  • - Whoop!

  • All right.

  • - No sir, mm mm.

  • - Well, since we brought "Moesha" up--

  • - Yes!

  • - We must discuss it, because

  • "Moesha", I think is one of the like,

  • most impactful Black sitcoms--

  • - Yes, yes.

  • - Because, like, it addressed and spoke to

  • a group of people that people weren't really catering to

  • like young Black girls, you know?

  • - I'm so proud of that show.

  • - Everything we did was so groundbreaking,

  • and I didn't realize it until I became an adult,

  • you know what I mean,

  • 'cause when we were doing it it just felt like--

  • - Makin' a show

  • - This is what we're doin', makin' a show.

  • To hear, like, the younger kids talk about it,

  • I'm like,

  • wow, yeah we did talk about that.

  • Oo, we did touch on that.

  • - Y'all were tacklin' issues!

  • - The Mexican and the Black, racial thing,

  • we did touch on that!

  • Oh my god, like!

  • So it was crazy, 'cause we really touched on things

  • that were happening in our neighborhoods,

  • you know what I mean,

  • and nobody else was doing that,

  • so yeah it was pretty amazing.

  • - Nobody else was doin' that.

  • I heard that you didn't have to audition for it?

  • Is that true? - I did not.

  • So--

  • - What a flex, first of all.

  • You know, go ahead flex, you know, do it!

  • - So no, I had done this other show called "South Central".

  • - I loved "South Central"!

  • - "South Central" was so good.

  • - It was so good!

  • - Fun fact,

  • did you know that was J. Lo's very first acting role?

  • - I did not.

  • Oh my gosh!

  • - So yeah, we did the show,

  • and the same producers from that show

  • are the ones that worked on "Moesha",

  • so that's why Lamont was there too.

  • And so, yeah, like, I was workin' on this other show

  • called "My So-Called Life",

  • and I just, I had like one more day and I was gonna wrap,

  • and I got a call from the producers,

  • and they were like, "Hey Shar, so listen.

  • "We're in production on this show,

  • "we shot a couple days,

  • "but the actress that we have

  • "isn't really workin' out,

  • "so we were wondering if you could come in

  • "and jump into this.

  • "We've only got like two days left.

  • "Can you, can you handle it?"

  • I was like, psh, done with this today,

  • sure I'll be there tomorrow.

  • - I'll swing by and save your little show!

  • - You know what I mean.

  • I'll save it. - I can do that.

  • (both laughing)

  • - I'm getting that on a t-shirt.

  • That's amazing. - Yes! It'll be great.

  • - But yeah, so then I just, I showed up,

  • and luckily just fit right in.

  • - Yeah, the rest is history.

  • - Yeah!

  • - You and Brandy had such amazing best friend chemistry--

  • - Bran is my girl, man!

  • Like that's--

  • - Had you met her before?

  • - Yeah; I sing, occasionally,

  • and Bran was always singing,

  • so we would cross paths a lot in that world.

  • We were both really good friends with Immature--

  • - Immature!

  • - We would always do stuff together as singers,

  • and blah blah blah blah blah,

  • so yeah, I'd known her before that,

  • but I didn't get to know her

  • until we did the show. - Until the show, yeah.

  • How did you go about

  • developing the character of Niecy,

  • like how much of Niecy was Shar--

  • - A lot, a lot.

  • I just, you know I kinda just,

  • I wanted her to be real.

  • I wanted her to be

  • that one chick that nobody ever gets to see.

  • You know what I mean?

  • Like, we had Brandy who was the straight,

  • you know, super educated,

  • you know, I'm gonna be the good girl.

  • Then, we had Countess doing the Kim character

  • which was like the off-the-cuff, crazy,

  • be gettin' in all the mischief friend.

  • I was like, well what about that chick

  • that holds them together?

  • - Right!

  • What about the glue?

  • - I wanna be the glue,

  • so I became the glue.

  • Plus, I'm a Virgo, so I'm like natural glue.

  • - Oh, is that what that means.

  • - So, I just kind of, just look it up--

  • - A little birdy told me is that

  • - Niecy was just supposed to be there for the first season?

  • - Honey, she was just supposed to be there

  • for the first episode.

  • Her name wasn't even Niecy.

  • Her name was Gail.

  • - Wow!

  • - I'm happy they changed that,

  • 'cause I didn't feel like a Gail.

  • - Gail is like a, it's definitely a--

  • - It's not a Niecy, ya know.

  • - [Both] It's not a Niecy.

  • - So, wow, not even for the first season,

  • but just for the first show. - First episode.

  • Just for the pilot,

  • that's what it was supposed to be,

  • and then...

  • - Walk me through this.

  • - They were just like,

  • every week, there was a new script on my front door.

  • It was weird.

  • - I don't know if you would've been able

  • to tell me anything after that.

  • - Oh, no no no.

  • My mom would have made sure.

  • She was like don't, hm?

  • - You still better get your dishes done.

  • - Yeah my mom didn't...

  • Wait, have you heard a story about that?

  • - No, why, you got one?

  • - Oh my god!

  • - Tell me!

  • - So, I had to have been like six or seven, right,

  • and I remember my mom and I had been filming all day, okay.

  • And, we get home from work,

  • and we walk into the house,

  • and this is my mom, checked me,

  • in the beginning of life,

  • and we've never had a problem since.

  • We get home, and I'm exhausted, right.

  • So, my mom's like, "Oh, by the way, don't forget.

  • "It's your night to do the dishes."

  • And I remember, I stopped, right,

  • and I liked looked at her,

  • and I was like, "Dishes?"

  • - Uh oh!

  • - "Girl, I'm a star!"

  • - I'm nervous at this point.

  • - So, my mom was like, "You're a star?"

  • I was like, "Yeah!"

  • She's like, "Okay, okay."

  • So she walks over to the sink,

  • and you know that one little light

  • that's like right over the sink?

  • She goes and flips that light on,

  • and she was like, "Well, star as 'Shar Does The Dishes',

  • "Action!",

  • and walked out of the room,

  • and we've never ever in life had another problem,

  • with uh, with any of that.

  • - I'm mad she hit you with the action!

  • - Action!

  • - Wow, that would keep me humble

  • for the rest of my days - I was done!

  • Never had a problem.

  • - Wow.

  • Wow! - My mom's a G, yeah.

  • - I think a reason that,

  • especially now, like people are like thinkin' about the show

  • and talkin' about the show so much,

  • is that like it's just a good time for nostalgia.

  • - Yeah.

  • - Whether or not it's because media, for a while,

  • was not as Black as it was in the '90s--

  • - Right.

  • - Or if the world is just shit,

  • and we just wanna go back to a time where it wasn't shit.

  • - All of the above.

  • - All of the above.

  • - All of the above, I absolutely believe it.

  • There were so many Black shows on,

  • and you have been a part, in some way, of so many--

  • - Of so many of them, right!

  • - Girl you be working

  • - Dude, do you know that Niecy,

  • the character Niecy actually appeared on:

  • "Moesha", "The Parkers",

  • "Girlfriends", "Clueless",

  • and I feel like it was something else.

  • I can't think of what the fifth one is,

  • but that character, alone,

  • showed up on all those shows.

  • - Like Niecy as Niecy.

  • - Yeah.

  • - Wow.

  • - It was weird and bizarre,

  • and it happened.

  • - I miss those days so much!

  • - It's crazy.

  • - So much!

  • - TV was like, really good then.

  • Like it was,

  • it made you feel good, - It was so good, yes--

  • - You know what I mean,

  • and now it's so oversaturated with all these things.

  • I mean I'm not saying it's, like, oversaturated

  • that I don't wanna work, but...

  • But I mean like, everybody had their shows.

  • Like, it was like, "Oh girl, I gotta get home because

  • "da da da is coming on." - Yeah!

  • - And it's just not like that anymore, and that's--

  • - It's not; it's not.

  • - That's really sad.

  • - What does it mean,

  • like looking back as we have this conversation.

  • What does it mean to have been a part

  • of such a Black-ass time in media.

  • - It's pretty badass, man.

  • It's good to know that I helped girls that look like me

  • realize they could do this,

  • and that they're not trapped in whatever little world

  • or little environment

  • that society tries to tell them that they're stuck in.

  • You could step out and do this.

  • You could be on the cover of this, you can,

  • you know what I mean, and it wasn't...

  • I don't know; I just think it's a powerful thing,

  • like when I really sit back and think about it.

  • I had this one kid,

  • this other actor of color.

  • He's Hispanic, and he came up to me.

  • He's on a show that I admire, and I love.

  • I was like, "Oh my god, I love your show!"

  • And he was like, "No wait, hold on.

  • "I just wanna tell you, 'thank you'."

  • And I was, "Huh?"

  • And he's like, "Because you made it,

  • "you were part of, you know, paving the way

  • "for people like me to do what we're doing."

  • I was like, shut up, I'm gonna cry.

  • - Oh, who's choppin' onions?

  • Right?

  • Who's doing that?

  • - Who's chopping onions!

  • But yeah, no no no.

  • I think it's phenomenal, dude,

  • and I'm just super proud to have been a part of it.

  • - You were in Missy Elliot's "One Minute Man" video.

  • -Yes I was.

  • - I just wanna hear about it,

  • 'cause Missy is just like,

  • speaking of icons, I mean. - Yes!

  • - Also, how did that happen?

  • - I think she just kinda called me

  • and was like, "Yo, come do this video."

  • I was like, "Aight."

  • I did a lot of videos, like in the '90s, man.

  • - She had your phone number?

  • - Yeah, that's my girl!

  • Missy's my girl!

  • - See, this is what I'm talkin' about.

  • I wouldn't be able to just like, ya know--

  • - Yeah, you could.

  • I wouldn't be able to breathe

  • knowin' that Missy Elliot had my phone number

  • in her phone.

  • Every day, I'd just be like--

  • - Well, back then it was like in our,

  • what do you call it, our two-ways--

  • - I was like, what, a Rolodex?

  • That wasn't that long ago--

  • - No, the two-way pagers, the big, blocky,

  • "Yeah, this is the first time

  • "I could ever text."

  • Like those things, so,

  • She had me in that, man.

  • So yeah, I think she just called and was like,

  • "Yo, come do this video."

  • And I was like, "Alright, I'm there."

  • And then I got there and then I saw the wardrobe

  • and I was like...

  • Imma wear the tutu with the panties, right?

  • Tutu and the lace panties? That's the,

  • and the bustier? - "Am I to understand?"

  • - That's what that,

  • oh and the big hat.

  • That's gonna make me,

  • so I feel dressed in the hat, okay.

  • And I was like, I love it.

  • This is so not Niecy.

  • And I remember, I was with my kids' dad, too.

  • Like, we were together,

  • and I remember him comin' up to the set when we were done,

  • like as I was wrapping,

  • and he was like,

  • "You get to take that home, right?"

  • - So what you're sayin' is that you stole from Missy Elliot?

  • - No, I didn't steal it!

  • - No, I'm joking.

  • - I asked!

  • I was like, you guys don't need this, right?

  • 'Cause we do, jus' sayin'.

  • - Don't ask no questions.

  • - No questions needed to be asked.

  • Everybody knew what it was.

  • - So yeah, she called,

  • and I did the video, and it was a great time,

  • and I looked awesomely hot.

  • I mean, not to like, feel myself like that--

  • - No, I agree!

  • --but being Niecy, who was not ever,

  • like sexually hot, or whatever,

  • to putting this outfit on and being,

  • I was like, this is it right here.

  • - It's like you got to say to everybody, like

  • you know, Niecy was so cute, - Don't sleep, boo.

  • - but don't forget.

  • Get you a girl that can do both.

  • - Yes!

  • I loved it; it was awesome.

  • I'm gonna get back in that outfit.

  • - I say do it.

  • -Yeah.

  • - Do it.

  • - It's gonna happen.

- Well, let's talk about your time on some of these sets.

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