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And could Wuhan's present become our future?

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There are some parallels with our experience.

Supermarket packed with panic shoppers on day three of the lock down on just like here, the authorities in Bhutan clocked the lack of social distancing and the continuing movement of people.

So they decided to act one month in and the lock down in Wuhan became locked in.

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Everyone in her apartment complex, those with high temperatures, were given a red status and immediately quarantine, then center.

Outside hospitals prefer the testing and treatment.

All this personal health data is access to the popular we chat social media app, used by over a 1,000,000,000 Chinese and everything on wechat is also seen by the government in real time, highly intrusive real time tracking of a largely complying population that was the key to the eventual lifting off the lock down in Wuhan.

After 76 days, the lock down was finally over, with her health status listed as green on her phone, union was allowed back to work.

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Wuhan is in many ways stricter than the UK in our existing locked down Chill out.

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You'll still be all the smartphone and the obligatory reach out up is the people's passport to normality or a degree of it.

Fail a temperature test, get a red status and you're back in personal, locked down and immediately re quarantine restaurants, shopping, mild schools and colleges all remain shut, and all public exercise is still forbidden.

In reality, post locked down life here has a long way to go before it gets back to normal.

Well, earlier today, I spoke to Dr Keiji Fukuda in Hong Kong.

He worked for the World Health Organization as assistant director General of health security, and I asked him where he thinks we are now with this outbreak globally.

Well, I think that we're still at the early stages of this outbreak unfolding.

You know, we'd all like to think that we're getting close to the middle there close to the end.

But I think that, you know, we're just beginning to see activity increase in Africa, and we have seen high levels that activity occur in places like North America and the U.

S.

And I think the likelihood is that even in countries which have experienced significant activity, we're going to continue to see waves of activity as we go forward.

And what do you make of the increase in the Chinese numbers?

I mean, are these sorts of increases with time inevitable, or has there been some funny business going on?

No.

I I think that it's inevitable that our understanding of the number of deaths is pointing to increase, you know?

So, for example, in New York City we saw that the number of deaths increased because they said lots of people never made it to the hospital or they died in emergency rooms before they could be seen.

And similarly, the Chinese have added a large number of deaths in move on.

But going forward even further, it's inevitable when we look back to this period and use other means, like estimating excess deaths, that we're going to find out.

In fact, the number of deaths is much greater than we're counting right now.

If we are still in the early stages of this disease, I mean is it is it's simply too soon to be talking about trying to return to some sort of normality.

I don't think it's too early to be talking about it and in some instances, acting upon it.

You know we can't wait until the outbreak fully disappears.

But on the other hand, I do think that it's incumbent upon governments not to paint a picture which is not really based in reality for the people living in those countries, and to make it simple.

Seimas if it's a simple matter of simply deciding that there is a date by which you're going to open up the economy.

So the idea of Donald Trump basically saying America needs to get back to work and we'll do it in phases is just unrealistic.

Well, I think it's realistic to say that America has to get back to work because every country wants to get back to work.

You know, it doesn't make sense to go back to normal Levels of activity of disease levels are going up, So you do want to make sure things were going down.

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Is it fair?

Do you think to criticize the wh show for its early response wasn't confused.

I think it's going to be fair to criticize everybody.

W h o countries.

I don't think there's any country that is not going to have to go back and look at itself and say, Did we do things right?

Could we have done better?

And I think that's also true for W h O.

But I think we do need the organization.

It is truly unique in Central.

We do need global leaders around the world who rallied around it because there is nobody else who could do the same job stubbornly Rachou.

I mean, when we look back on this, do you think we will say those Asian countries who were who had learned from the SARS and MERS outbreaks were better prepared?

They were able to adapt more quickly.

In Hong Kong where I am now, the government went to head to strengthen its health systems.

It went, had to strengthen, get scientific systems related to emerging infectious diseases.

Um, it took a lot of steps like that, and the public itself made changes in society.

Professor, thank you very much indeed for your time.

Thank you.