He's calling it Contact Concerto.

It's actually Concerto for Voice and Orchestra.

Essentially, it's it's fascinating what he's doing with the vocal writing.

It's of course, Ah, work that will celebrate.

Sasha cooks incredibly beautiful and distinctive voice, but it uses the voice not so much as the as the as the vehicle to to sing words and present poetry.

But but it's, ah, it's more like the protagonist in a traditional instrumental concerto.

Um, it's not the first time this has been done.

People have written vocal ease in the past wordless, wordless songs.

But Mark is doing something, you know in marks and inimitable way.

He's always coming up with new paradigms for, For, for the Structure and that the premise for the works that he writes.

And I think this is a particularly interesting one.

Sasha Cooke eyes someone that I worked with when I conducted Doctor Atomic John Adams Amazing important opera at the Metropolitan.

Uh, she had a very, very powerful presence, not to mention voice throughout that production, that ISS in chief really inhabited the stage.

It was nice to reunite with her and work with her in Britain Spring Symphony last year.

Um, there are a lot of great singers, but they're not that many whose voices you hear and instantly can identify.

She has, AH, special quality to her temper.

That is, that is truly unique and kind of ravishing.

I think she's she's really she's really big time.

It's ah, it's great to work with her and I'm sure we'll be doing a lot of things over the years together.