The Dutch company that makes it wanted to get my thoughts.

And I think they knew how to pique my interest because in their first email to me, they said it is virtually impossible to crack.

I certainly couldn't say no to that.

It's a beefy lock, roughly 70 millimeters across a 14 millimeter thick shackle, and this weighs in at exactly £2 dimensionally, it is nearly identical to the employee model P 358 However, instead of a C E in Grade five rating, I'm told this is designed to be C and Grade six.

If they do pull that off in the final production locket will be impressive.

There are very few open shackle, see and great Six locks out there.

Okay.

Onto the court, it is a top loading disc detainer designed with some pretty cool stainless steel bear head keys.

I'm told there are 12 discs inside, which is, I believe, the most I've ever seen in core of this design, and with that many discs, regardless of the build quality.

It's going to take some time to pick, especially given the fact that the disks must be really thin to fit that many in there.

But there is a weakness in the design that might be exploited to get picked times down just a little bit.

If we look down the key way, we can see several disks that closely match the profile of the key.

If you give some thought to the way discs interact with the key, you'll realize that those disks have to be zero cuts.

So I can literally just look down the key way with a light and tell you that disks 1 to 5 and nine are zero cuts.

That's a least some help, but there are still eight other disks, and it can be tricky to keep track of where your pick is in the lock.

The better way to use that information, I think, is to feel for the profile discs and just leave them alone.

So let's try to pick this open, and then, of course, we will take it apart to see what's inside.

The first thing we're going to do as usual with course, like this is.

Rotate all of the disks as far clockwise as they will go on.

DDE.

I think some of these air giving me some trouble.

There we go.

One disc was given me trouble, but I think I have them all rotated.

Now that I'm going to get my disk detainer pick, reach past the spinner Upfront tension Disc one, and let's get to picking.

This will probably take a while.

Okay, two is loose.

So it was three for five.

Six seven.

Think that's hate.

Nine 10.

Okay, I must have skipped something over because I'm a disk 11.

Now, let's go back to let's just work our way backwards.

So that must be 11 10 nine.

Okay, Number eight is binding.

Tightly click out of him humping on seven.

Okay.

Click out of six.

Five, I think is one of those profile discs.

43 too.

Okay, let's go all the way to the back.

It seems like the ones in the back or binding first.

Okay, Number 11 was binding.

I'm slipping off it.

There we go.

I think we got 11 set.

That was 10 nine.

Feels like one of our profile discs.

Eight, We already said it, and it's still feel set.

Six is still loose.

Thing on five.

Click out of four.

Click out of three and we open this up.

Okay.

Took a little bit longer than most dis detainer locks, but it has more disks than most disc detainer locks.

Let's see if we can take this apart and see what's inside.

Okay, I think the first thing to do is to remove the set.

Screw that holds the core retainer shut.

Hey, we should be able to get that out now.

Let's get a screwdriver.

Come.

Okay, now we have the actuator.

Let's see if we can pull that out.

Now we can drop the balls out, and then we have two more screws on either side that are holding the core in place.

This course should come out freely.

Now.

You can see it has its own little housing.

That should be a little bit tricky to get a part.

But hopefully not too bad.

That was easier than I was expecting.

Okay.

Let's huh?

Okay, here's our spinner than a little spring, and it's dropped.

That sidebar out as well.

Now we have all of the disks.

Okay?

disc one is That's one of our profile discs, and it has a false gate in it.

And we have a spacer disc to another profile disk with a spacer, and I mean and a false gate.

I'm sorry, and we have a non profile disk with no false gates, another non profile disk with no false gate, a profile disk with a false Kate.

Now, I did not run into any false gates while picking.

I'm beginning to understand why that may be, but let's take the rest of these disks at first to confirm that it appears that all of the non profile discs on the very last one is a non rotating disk you can see instead of that little nub that sticks out.

We have this full crescent here that keeps that from rotating.

It all would make it very easy to tension off of this.

Okay, the reason I did not feel any false Gates while picking is because the only discs with false gates are the profile discs, and every single one of those profile disks is a zero cut.

So when I rotated all of the disks clockwise before I started picking, actually bypassed every single false gate in there.

So as faras suggestions go in here, if it's still possible to make changes before the production model, I would dump the profile desks, give every single disk false skates and don't put zero cut discs in the number one or number 12 slots.

I should say, zero cuts or non rotating disks.

If you were to do all of that, this would have been a lot harder to pick.

But the overall design, without looking at the core is is really quite good as it should be, because it's almost exactly like the the Abloy p 358 In any case, that's all I have for you today.

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