First.

Yes.

Your last video.

Yes, it's that he was nothing to that.

Leave me now, click the card and go.

But if you've already seen that video John Flags and we've recently started to sell 99% Invisible Merchant Dft be a dot com, which I love.

And unsurprisingly, since the podcast about design, the designs are good.

Roman Mars, the creator of 99% Invisible, is known for many things, but his most popular YouTube video is about bad flag design.

And John I live in a state that was voted third toe last for bad flag design, though the fact that Maryland was above us makes me suspicious of the entire process because they wanted to know what the flag looks like because I've looked at it and I can't tell.

But I'm willing to admit it.

Yes, the Montana State flag is bad.

Every other state flag looks like this.

The seal even shows like a wall of glacier meeting a large body of water which literally doesn't happen in the state.

This is why in Montana we actually identified by our area code.

We only have one for the whole state.

So for 06 everybody loves it.

Also, our old license plate design, which is quite good.

But Roman Mars and his Ted talk focuses on the flag of the city of Milwaukee, which is bad.

It's so bad, right?

Is a flag on it.

There's a flag on the flag.

It's bad design.

I love good design.

And Roman Mars makes the case that a good flag doesn't just represent civic pride.

It can increase civic pride.

And since that Ted talk on alternative has arisen, at least with a certain kind of Milwaukee in the kind of walk in who like, you know, watches Ted talks.

But and I don't want to make a bunch of enemies right now.

Among my fellow microbrew loving friends, the people's flag of Milwaukee is good design, its iconic.

You could understand it from across the baseball stadium, but and I'm not from Milwaukee, so I'm not weighing in on this conversation as a Milwaukee in at all.

I'm just a CZ from like the perspective of design.

It feels a little bit posh, and it feels a little bit like it cares more about design than it does about a city because you know what I feel like when I look at Milwaukee's current bad flag.

Like I look at that and I think that's bad design.

But I also think like compromise is, the main thing that's being conveyed here is the thing that we all too often these days call politics like Oh, yeah, okay.

They had to get the shipping industry in the gear and the church and the beer in the baseball in the old flag.

Oftentimes, what politics like that politics.

What it's actually synonymous for is like I had to think about someone who wasn't me, other people.

And that way the current Milwaukee flag.

It feels like Ernest.

It feels kind of sweet, and in that way it feels kind of Milwaukee.

This does not make it a good design, and it does not make it a good flag is neither of those things, and I will say that, like democracy is not incompatible with good design.

The U.

S.

Has an amazing flag.

It is very different from most flags, but is still deeply iconic and very good.

And Pocatello, Idaho, went from this, which is to this which yes, Pocatello well done, though this was also suggested.

And you should have done it.

You shouldn't have gone for it.

I guess I'm feeling, after all this talk is that, like a good design is about more than good design and a great flag needs to be simple, but I don't think every place needs a great flag after all these days.

Pocatello blow in New York City Out of the water.

John, I'll see you on Tuesday.