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  • He was a massive figure in the world of theoretical physics.

  • And many people wouldn't have heard of him.

  • And yet, I think it'd be fair to say that his work led to the, probably, three Nobel prizes being awarded

  • - Not to him though? - Not to him

  • And he could have been involved in so at least two of them...

  • ...I think, he could have, if things would've turned out differently.

  • He was actually born in 1932 in India, in Madras to...

  • ...I think, British parents who were working over in India.

  • He came back to Scotland to be educated at college in Scotland.

  • And he spend his own undergraduate and postgraduate time at Edinburgh University.

  • And then I think he went over to Caltech, for a period, for a year...

  • ...before securing a position in the Imperial College, back in the late fifties...

  • ...at the Imperial, and he stayed there until he died.

  • So I knew him through his work on the cosmology.

  • And that required a knowledge of particle physics, ...

  • ...and that, in turn, requires a detailed knowledge of quantum field theory.

  • Tom was a pioneer of that field.

  • The work he developed, the techniques he developed, ...

  • ...have implications not only in particle physics, cosmology, ...

  • ...but also in condensed matter physics.

  • And so he was able to develop an area of physics...

  • ...which is sort of interface between condensed matter and cosmology...

  • ...as well as his pioneering work involving Higgs particle, ...

  • ...early universe, phase transitions, symmetry breaking, ...

  • ...gravity, and there was one thing I discovered.

  • He worked in 1961 -- He wrote a paper...

  • ...in which he looked at a modification of general relativity.

  • I thought, recently, that I been seeing references to this paper of Tom's 1961.

  • And I just look back in 2015 it had over a hundred citations...

  • ...this paper he wrote.

  • You know, that's the kind of impact he had across the fields.

  • He was able to write things and laid dormant for a while and then people realize...

  • ...Wow this is really really impressive stuff.

  • The first and the one...

  • ...that our Sixty Symbols viewers will know most about is probably the Higgs.

  • Right? The discovery of the Higgs.

  • Back in 2012 I think?

  • Which lead to the Nobel Prize in 2013.

  • The mechanism, which is known as the Higgs Mechanism...

  • ...was developed independently by 3 groups.

  • One of those groups involed Tom.

  • He wrote a paper that was published in...

  • ...Physical Review Letters, and that has become one of...

  • ...the flagship papers that...

  • ...they often cited as being one of their key...

  • ...contributions to their journal.

  • And he wrote it with his friends, Gulranik and Hagen.

  • And because of this...

  • ...crazy law or...

  • ...rule, that we've discussed...

  • ...that the Nobel Prize can only go to 3 people, ...

  • ...they decided...

  • ... I guess, they couldn't just give it to...

  • ...Tom and not give it to the other two -- they were giving...

  • ...it to Higgs and Englert, quite rightly.

  • And so Tom missed out.

  • Tom wrote a second -- probably even more influential paper-- He...

  • ...actually was the person that demonstrated how...

  • ...you can use this mechanism

  • ...in the proper world of particle physics. And that we...

  • ...knew that one of the...

  • ...key particles in nature is the W and Z vector boson.

  • These tells us about how the weak interactions behave.

  • These are very massive particles.

  • We didn't know how to give these masses, and Tom is the person...

  • ...that actually demonstrated how you do this.

  • He came up with the actual mathematical...

  • ...formulas and...

  • ...to introduce masses to these particles.

  • This then, in 1967, ...

  • ...he wrote this paper. So 3 years...

  • ...after the Higgs Mechanism. He applied...

  • ...it to this realistic situation.

  • Provided the breakthrough that...

  • ...helped Weinberg understand...

  • ...the Standard Model of particle physics.

  • And Salam.

  • So Weinberg and Salam shared the Nobel...

  • ...Prize with Sheldon Glashow for the...

  • ...Standard Model of particle physics.

  • It also had a knock-on effect that the...

  • ...formulas that Tom had developed in this...

  • ...1967 paper, the very mathematical...

  • ...formulas, had helped Hooft and Veltman...

  • ...understand that this model, ...

  • ...Standard Model, was what they...

  • ...call renormalizable.

  • This means that you can make actual predictions...

  • ...with the model....

  • ...basically. But...

  • ...the formulas that...

  • ...Tom had developed helped them.

  • They had then got the Nobel Prize as well.

  • And of course you have the fact that Tom...

  • ...independently had discovered the Higgs mechanism...

  • ...in 1964, which got...

  • ...the Nobel Prize for Higgs and Englert.

  • So 3 Nobel Prizes came out of...

  • work directly related to Tom.

  • I found it...

  • ...kind of the most humbling experience, I think...

  • ...I've seen that day when...

  • ...when the Nobel Prize was announced-- first of all...

  • ...there was a delay. You might recall there was a delay...

  • ...of over an hour when it turned out the delay was...

  • ...that they were trying to find Higgs.

  • But-- to let him know.

  • But people would think maybe they told Tom...

  • ...and Tom has turned it down because...

  • ...he would have known that if he got it, his two...

  • ...collaborators wouldn't have got it. But that wasn't the case.

  • But I have read, ...

  • ...since, that Tom told his son Robert, ...

  • ...that uh...

  • ...he was actually quite relieved not to have got the prize.

  • Because if he...

  • ...had've got the prize, it would have been at the...

  • ...expense of his close friends and collaborators...

  • ...of the original paper.

  • Well that's what Tom thought, so you'd have to go with his wishes, ...

  • ...but what do you think of the fact he never got a Nobel Prize?

  • I mean, he did win a lot of prizes.

  • He did win a lot of prizes.

  • He is recognized as being a, you know...

  • ...a giant in his field.

  • I think it's sad that he didn't get it but I...

  • ...fully appreciate...

  • ...his, his attitude and his--

  • ...I believe it. You know, the day of the--

  • ...when the prizes were announced, he was being interviewed...

  • ...all over the place, and...

  • ...you didn't hear a single word of...

  • ...bitterness, or criticism. The closest...

  • ...it got where it was, he said, ...

  • ...if they have these archaic rules...

  • ...for the Nobel Prize...

  • ...he can't get it. But he--

  • I knew him quite well; he was a good...

  • ...friend and collaborator and he never, ...

  • ...ever complained...

  • ...or said anything...

  • ...derogatory about...

  • ...the award or the prize.

  • Never.

  • What do you think he was bringing to the table that made him so exceptional?

  • What was his sort of unique selling point, his skill?

  • - Oh! What a good question! - What was Tom's thing?

  • Oh, Ok. So, I...

  • ...was actually thinking about this today...

  • ...before coming in. I think...

  • ...a mathematically, incredibly...

  • ...strong. He knew detailed...

  • ...mathematics about areas known as group...

  • ...theory and homotopy theory.

  • These played essential roles and...

  • ...for example his understanding of group theories and...

  • ...non-abelian gauge theories...

  • ...allowed him to understand how this...

  • ...vector boson could acquire a mass, ...

  • ...for the W, whilst the...

  • ...photon remained massless.

  • It was Tom that realized this.

  • And so he brought this...

  • ...very detailed mathematical knowledge...

  • ...of quantum mechanics, quantum field theory, group...

  • ...theory, homotopy theory to the table...

  • ...coupled with...

  • ...this deep understanding of the physical side.

  • When I worked with him he would always be...

  • ...asking about the...

  • ...physical consequences of...

  • ...a calculation, you know: does it make sense...

  • ...physically? We're dealing with objects that are...

  • ...meant to be in the universe.

  • Does it make sense?

  • Can we already rule it out? And so he was a...

  • ...physicist, but with a very strong mathematical bend.

  • And that, I think, was his...

  • ...unique thing that he-- well other people have it, but...

  • ...he had it in this particular...

  • ...combination which was just right.

  • He was kind, he was gentle.

  • He was never afraid to tell you if he thought you were wrong.

  • He was...

  • ...determined to get things as accurately as possible.

  • The number of-- you know, I worked with him on quite a few...

  • ...papers. I was privileged to do that, and...

  • ...the number of iterations of papers where...

  • ...we would be discussing words.

  • There'll be a level of words: are we saying this right?

  • And the calculations...

  • ...we would check, double check.

  • He was really rigorous in...

  • ...his approach.

  • But he had time for everyone. There are so...

  • ...many stories of Tom being...

  • ...sort of...

  • ...people banging on his door when he was head of department...

  • ...at Imperial and coming in almost off the...

  • ...street-- some people -- to tell him...

  • ...their ideas.

  • And he would listen.

  • And he would listen to them, and then he would--

  • He'd probably say, "I don't know."

  • Rather than dismiss things,

  • He would always listen. He always had time.

  • Young scientists, like when I arrived at Imperial as a 24...

  • ...year old, 25 year old.

  • He had so much time for people, ...

  • ...and to listen and offer them advice.

  • There is a little story in that that might be worth...

  • ...telling you about.

  • I got invited to give...

  • ...a seminar at Imperial.

  • They were considering hiring me for a postdoc.

  • I was at Newcastle doing a PhD...

  • ...and it wasn't in the area Tom worked.

  • So I worked really hard at my presentation--

  • ...it was at the time of transparencies.

  • I made it way too technical, ...

  • ...as new people-- new, fresh PhD. students do, ...

  • ...'cause I was trying to impress.

  • So I went down and gave this talk and...

  • ...blew everyone away because it was too technical, ...

  • ...apart from the few experts...

  • ...who already knew it.

  • So it wasn't great.

  • And then after the talk Tom went off, ...

  • ...he didn't ask any questions....

  • ...he went off to his room because he was head of department.

  • And my friend Ray Rivest said...

  • ..."well you should go meet Tom, you know, he's...

  • ...a famous guy and you might be-- you might be...

  • ...here as a postdoc". So I went to his office...

  • ...and sat down in his office, and...

  • ...at his table and he smiled, ...

  • ...and he didn't say anything. Nothing.

  • And I'm thinking, well, OK.

  • And a few... felt like minutes went by.

  • And eventually I said well it's me who's come to see him; ...

  • ...I should say something. So I said...

  • ..."Professor Kibble, I know...

  • ...you're a very important person, ...

  • ...I really respect your work, and...

  • ...I would like to know: what did you think?

  • Have you got any advice for me? I'm just starting."

  • And he looked at me and went, "Hmm."

  • "Don't write in yellow."

  • All my transparencies, ...

  • ...all my equations I had written in yellow.

  • None of them had projected onto the board.

  • So every single equation nobody could see.

  • So not only was it a really technical talk, ...

  • ...nobody could see an equation.

  • And that was his bit of advice. And then...

  • ...we chatted a bit more and in fact, ...

  • ...we uh, we began a...

  • ...collaborations a couple years later...

  • ...when I returned to the UK.

  • And well, we had a fantastic time.

  • Rather than just say, "Your talk was just rubbish," ...

  • ...he just-- "Don't write in yellow."

  • Did you ever bring that up to him, years later?

  • Do you remember saying that to me?

  • I did! He just smiled. As he would.

  • He...

  • He would...

  • Tom...

  • ...wasn't afraid of silence. He didn't...

  • ...feel the need-- he would never try and dominate--

  • ...he hated being the center of attention. He just didn't want it.

  • But he would always be prepared to tell you...

  • ...you know, ...

  • ...give his thoughts on something if you wanted to know, but...

  • ..so you could go for tea with Tom and not say...

  • ...anything and be fine.

  • And initially it's a bit...

  • ...felt a bit...

  • ...awkward, but then you realize oh no, it's fine.

  • And then you'd say something and he'd reply and...

  • ...it was all it was all grand.

  • You can't... how do you then give it to three more?

  • Once I realized he hadn't got it, I just texted him and said...

  • ...that I'm very sorry to hear you didn't get it.

  • I think you deserved it.

  • And... he replied.

  • He replied almost immediately.

  • And he just said, "Thanks very much."

  • He's such a modest guy.

  • He didn't say, "I know! That was painful!"

He was a massive figure in the world of theoretical physics.

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黄色で書いてはいけない(トム・キブル) - 六十の記号 (Don't Write in Yellow (Tom Kibble) - Sixty Symbols)

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