I don't know.

I don't really feel like a Nobel Prize when I go and say, OK, got Heisenberg.

Einstein has the same point about that extraordinary honor.

So, you know, congratulations to you.

So can you tell us why have you been awarded this prize?

So in 1998 Adam Reiss is one of the other co recipients.

And I, uh, working with the team of 18 other people, discovered that the universal expansion, the cosmic expansion, the universe was speeding up and that was the wrong direction.

We had expected gravity to cause the universe to slow down.

And so the fact that the universe is speeding up meant that gravity was not working as we had expected.

And we think that's because about 73% of the universe is something we called dark energy, something we didn't know existed before.

And that causes gravity toe push rather than pull, because it actually caused gravity to change.

Well, it means that we always think the gravity always polls, but According to Einstein, the way gravity works really depends on the material itself.

Energy tied to space.

Gravity pushes.

It doesn't pull.

So do we have any sort of hints as to what this energy and space could be?

Well, Einstein said, it might just be energy that's just there.

But it would be nice to have a better explanation than that.

And honestly, no, we do not have any hints of what it might be.

So why is this result so remarkable?

Why are people so excited about it?

You know, it's big when you discover 73% of everything there is, you know, that's that's overturning what we expected.

And it's weird.

It's not even normal stuff.

It's weird stuff.

And so, you know, I think it it highlights either that we were just missing this huge part of the universe before or that somehow, gravity and quantum mechanics, which we know we don't have a theory for, are playing tricks, uh, with physics in a way that we don't quite have sorted out.

So I guess some of the hope is that maybe we can use these observations toe probe the link between gravity and quantum mechanics and hopefully, potentially sort that out.

Have you heard about this study that says that Nobel Prize winners live a few years longer than similar scientists who were short listed for the price but don't actually win?

Wow, I have not heard that, uh, feeling feeling healthier now.

Oh, actually, I'm not feeling all that kind of feeling.

Stress.

So we'll see.

Maybe in the long term, I think it should pay off.

Well, I'm hoping it's because of all the good wine and things I get to drink, Of course.

All right, well, thank you so much for having a chat with me.

That my pleasure.