I thinkweneedtoseetheaction, youknow, theytheysaythatthey'regoingtoact, butreally 2050 is 2020 fifties, 20 yearstoolate, andwewanttobethatzeroby 2030 toavoidthecatastrophicconsequencesofthiscrisis.
Sodoyouthinkthey'renotdoingenoughpoliticians?
Okay, sowhatdoyouknow?
Whatwouldyousaytothemnow?
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Thisisyouropportunity.
I thinktherearesomany, youknow, thislegislation, thatis, they'rereadytobeputinplace, suchas a greenydealwhichwouldmakethetransitionto a zerocarboneconomysomucheasier.
Thisisthenewnormalnowthatwehavetogetusedtoyou, and I thinkit's, youknow, it's a tinyfractionof 1% oftheproblemswe'restoringupforourselvesunlesswetakesomeseriousactionsoon.
Sohowdidyoucomefrom a constituencythathassufferedseverefloating?
Itis a well, I lookatthisfloodevent, and I lookedback 13 yearsagowhenwehadthelastreallybadfloodsontheRiversevenandwe'vegotmany, manymorehomeshavehadflooddefenses, so I think a compromiseisweneedtokeeponspendingmoneyonflooddefenses.
Yeah, I thinkit's reallyimportantforpoliticianstorealizethatmygenerationandgenerationstofollowtheoneswhoarereallygonnabearthebruntofthedecisionsthataremadenow, ontoday.
I mean, thewaythegreatertongueburgersandshelooksatthenewspaperseverydaythings.
Oh, myGod, they'rejustnottakingthisseriously.
Andshegetsreallyangryaboutit.
I think, Yeah, I thinkit's understandabletobewhenyouseeallthesenewextremesthatarebecomingeverydaylife, it's I don't seehowyoucannotbeangryin a waybecauseit's affectingpeopleandpeoplearedying.
ThechancesjustputbacksomeoftheverydifficultdecisionsofthisbudgetbecauseoftheCoronavirus, theeconomyistaking a bitof a hitofthemoment.
Whoknowswherethiswillend?
Moneyisgoingtorun, though, ifnotdry.
Howdoyoumakesureyougetthefundsthatyouneed?
While I citethatfactthattheeconomyhasgrown 25% inthelastdecadeandyetwe'vebeenabletocutcarbonemissionsby 25% duringthattime, I thinktheeconomy's goingnearly 20%.
Andthemorepracticalstuffthatyouwouldsuggestis a hydrologist.
Well, I don't thinkthatthereisanyconflictbetweeneverythingthatwe'veseentheyoungactivistsaying, andallofthescienceandevidencethat I knowistrueabouttheclimatechangingandtheaction, theurgentactionthatweneedtotaketochangethewaythatwethinkaboutourfuture.
Butalsowedoneedsomekindoftopdownpolicychangethatjoinedupagriculture, landmanagement, youknow, andeverythingneedstobejoinedupinordertomake a difference.
Butwheredoesthatpersonalresponsibilitycomefrom?
Ifpeopledon't fear, youknowthisnewnormaliftheydon't notlivingin a floodzoneifthey'renotlivingin a drugzone, ifthey'renotexperiencingthisstuff, evenifit's inevitable, whereisthatpersonalresponsibilitycomefrom?
I thinkit's uptoustomakesurethatwearecommunicatingthatactually a lotofpeopleareatrisk, particularlyfromnaturalhazards, andfloodsnearlyeverywhereinthecountryisatriskinthatparticularsense.