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  • I've really been trying to understand the underlying psychology of postmodernism and its relationship with neo-Marxism,

  • and then the spread of that into the universities and the effect on the culture.

  • And what I would like to start with is a description of your understanding of that,

  • because I've presented to the people who are listening to me my understanding of it.

  • But I interviewed Stephen Hicks recently, and he wrote an interesting book called "Explaining Postmodernism," which I liked quite a bit.

  • It's been criticized for being too right-wing, although I don't think he's right-wing at all.

  • I think maybe you could characterize him as middle-of-the-road conservative, but I would say he's more like a classic liberal.

  • But I'm really curious about your views about, well, whatwhat Postmodernism is first of all.

  • I know you'veyou've identified it with thewith the general tricksters Derrida and Lacan and Foucault.

  • And Foucault in particular you've talked about.

  • But I'd like to know what you think about postmodernism and also why you think it's been so attractive to people.

  • Well, my explanation is that there is no authentic 1960s point of view in any of the elite universities,

  • but rather the most liberated minds of my generation of 1960 did not go on to graduate school.

  • I witnessed this with my own eyes.

  • I saw genuine Marxists, okay, at my college, which was the State University of New York at Binghamton, upstate New York, Harpur College,

  • which had a huge cohort of very radical downstate New York Jews, okay, who

  • In fact, Harpur used to be called Berkeley East.

  • I saw genuine passionate Marxists with my own eyes.

  • They were not word choppers.

  • They were not snide postmodernists, right?

  • They were in-your-face aggressive.

  • They used the language of the people.

  • They had a populist and energy, okay?

  • They dressed working class. They were nonmaterialistic, okay?

  • These are people who lived by their own convictions.

  • They were against the graduate schools, all right?

  • When I— When I, uh, went on to graduate school, and it became known that I was going to go to Yale,

  • I was confronted by a leader of the radicals on campus, in broad daylight in front of everyone,

  • who denounced me forhe said,

  • "Grad school is not where it's happening. You don't— You don't do that.

  • If you have to go to graduate school you should go to Buffalo."

  • Now, I had applied to SUNY Buffalo, because the great leftist critic Leslie Fiedler was there, who had a huge impact on me.

  • He's practically created identity politics, but without its present distortions, all right?

  • And Norman Holland, the psychoanalytic critic was there.

  • I would have been very happy to have gone on to Buffalo, but I needed the library at Yale, so I continued on to Yale.

  • There were no radicals in the graduate schools, okay, from 1968 to '72, when i was there.

  • Only one radical, Todd Gitlin, who went on to have a career success, okay?

  • The actual radicals of the 1960s, okay, either went offdropped out of college, or went off to create communes, right,

  • or they were taking acid and destroyed their brains.

  • Now, I have also written about that,

  • the destruction of the minds, okay, of the most talented members of my generation through LSD.

  • It was going on all around me, right?

  • So, what's happened is the actual legacy of the '60s got truncated.

  • The idea that these post-structuralists and postmodernists are heirs of the 1960s revolution is an absolute crock, okay?

  • What they represent, as Foucault shows

  • Foucault said, okay, that the biggest influence on his thinking, okay, was Samuel Beckett's "Waiting for Godot," okay,

  • which was a post-World-War-II play, written in Paris,

  • that was about the disillusionment and nihilism experienced after Hitler went through, occupied France, right, and all of Europe was in ruins.

  • It had nothing to do with what

  • "Waiting for Godot" has nothing to do with the authentic legacy of the 1960s,

  • which was about genuine multiculturalism, a movement toward India, toward Hinduism,

  • a transformation of consciousness through psychedelics, which I did not take, but which I identify with totally through the music, etc., all right?

  • It was a turn toward the body.

  • It was a turn towards sensory experience, okay?

  • Not this "word-chopping" thing, and this, like, cynical removal from actual experience, all right?

  • That French import, okay, came in, okay, to the graduate schools.

  • It did not affect any genuine 1960s person.

  • The real 1960s revolution was about Jung.

  • It was about a way of seeing the cosmos in mythological terms, all right?

  • And the Jungian contribution went on into the New Age movement of the 1970s, aside from the universities, all right?

  • So, who took over the universities were these careerists, okay?

  • I saw them with my own eyes. I saw what happened. I saw

  • I was at Yale when Derrida was being shipped over, okay, to address the, uh, you know, the studentsthe grad students and the faculty.

  • And I said to a fellow student, after hearing one of these guys speak

  • It wasn't Derrida. It was another one of the theorists.

  • I said, "They are like high priests murmuring to each other." All right?

  • This was an elitist form from the start, okay?

  • It was not progressive. It was not revolutionary. It was reactionary.

  • It was a desperate attempt to hold on to what had happened before the 1960s sensory revolution.

  • But this postmodernist thing, okay, this trashing, okay, of the text,

  • thisthis encouragement, okay, of a superior and destructive attitude toward the work of art

  • We're going through it, okay, primly, with red pen in hand, finding all the evidence of sexism, check, racism, check, homophobia, check.

  • That is not the empathic, emotional, okay, sensory-based, okay, revolution of the 1960s, right?

  • I am sick and tired of these people claiming any kind of mantle from the 1960s. They're frauds.

  • These people areWhat happened in the 1970s was a collapse of the job market in academia, okay?

  • All of a sudden, jobs were scarce, and this thing was there, the new and improved and shiny thing, okay, to be a theorist.

  • And people seized on it, okay? It was institutionalized, all right?

  • And it's an enormous betrayal of the 1960s.

  • Okay so that- You touched on this idea of "the destruction of the work of art".

  • You know, and one of the things I really liked about reading Nietzsche was his discussion of "ressentiment" right?

  • -of resentment and it seems to me that tremendous amount of the motive power

  • that drives the postmodernist- let's call It- it's not a revolution, uh-

  • transformation seems to me to be driven by resentment about virtually anything that has any,

  • well, what would you say... any merit of competence or aesthetic quality,

  • and I don't know if that's- It seems to me that that's partly rooted in the

  • academic's disdain for the business world, which I think is driven by their relative economic inequality,

  • because most people who are as intelligent as academics are,

  • from a pure IQ point of view, make more money in the private sphere, and so I think that drives some of it.

  • But there also seems to be this- There's a destruction, an aim for destruction of the aesthetic quality of

  • the literary or artistic work, its reduction to nothing but some kind of power game, and then surrounding that,

  • the reduction of *everything* to something that approximates a power game, which I can't help but

  • identifying with jealousy and resentment as a fundamental motivator.

  • Does that seem reasonable to you?

  • These professors who allege that art is nothing but an ideological movement by one elite,

  • against the- against another group, these people are Philistines, okay?

  • They're Philistines. They're Middlebrow, hopelessly Middlebrow.

  • They have no sense of beauty. They have no sense of the aesthetic.

  • Now, Marxism does indeed assert this, but Marxism tries to reconfigure the universe in terms of materialism.

  • It sees- It does not recognize any kind of spiritual dimension.

  • Now, I'm an atheist, but i see the great world religions as enormous works of art,

  • as the best way to understand the universe and a man's place in there.

  • I find them enormously moving. They're like enormous poems, right?

  • And what I have called for, the true revolution, okay, would have been to make the core curriculum

  • of the world education, the *world*, okay, the great religions of the world.

  • I feel that is the only way to achieve an understanding, and it's also a way to present the aesthetic,

  • because i feel that that that the real sixties vision was about exultation, elevation, cosmic consciousness, okay?

  • All of these things were rejected by these midgets, okay, intellectual midgets

  • who seized onto Lacan, Derrida and Foucault. It's a- my career has been in the art school, my entire career,

  • beginning at Bennington college. So I represent a challenge to this from the perspective of Art.

  • It is an absolute nonsense, okay, as post-Structuralism maintains, that reality is mediated by language, by words.

  • Everything that we can know, including gender.

  • It is absolutely madness, because I'm teaching students whose majors are ceramics, ok, or dance,

  • or who are jazz musicians, who understand reality in terms of the body, its sensory activation.

  • So they- See, what happened was something was going on in the art world as well.

  • I identify With Andy Warhol in pop art, okay? That was what was going on during my years in college.

  • Everything about Andy Warhol was like, "Wow! Admiration! Wow!"

  • What happened immediately after that in the arts, 1970's okay, was this collapse into a snide sort of post-Modernism also.

  • This happened in the art world, and it was an utter misunderstanding of culture, it seems to me,

  • by that movement in the art World. That Is, oppositional art, in my view, is dead, okay?

  • -and what post-Modernism is, is a pathetic attempt to continue the old heroism of the Avant-garde.

  • The Avant-garde was genuinely heroic from the early 19th Century, okay?

  • We're talking about, you know, the corbeil, the realists, you know?

  • We're talking about Monet and the Impressionists,

  • people who have genuinely suffered for their radical ideas,

  • and their innovations and so on, going right down to Picasso, and down to Jackson Pollock,

  • who like was- who truly suffered for, you know, for his art.

  • It was only after his death, okay, that suddenly the market was created for abstract art.

  • Pop art killed The Avant-garde.

  • The idea that the Avant-garde continues is an absolute delusion of the contemporary art world,

  • which feels that it must attack, attack, attack- challenge, okay, the simplistic beliefs of the hoi polloi, okay?

  • It's somehow the order- What? Excuse me, okay?

  • From The Moment, okay, Andy Warhol went through and embraced the popular media,

  • instead of having the opposition to it that serious artists have had, that was the end of Oppositional art, okay?

  • So, we've been going on now for 50 years: the post-modernism and academes hand-in-hand

  • with the stupidity and infantilism that masquerades as, you know, as important art galleries everywhere,

  • this incredible, incredible, you know, its mechanism of contemporary art,

  • pushing things that are so hopelessly derivative,

  • and with this idea that, once again, that the art world somehow superior view of reality,

  • Authentic Leftism Is populist, okay?

  • It is based in working-class style, working-class language, working-class direct emotion,

  • in an openness and brusqueness of speech, okay?

  • -not this fancy, contorted jargon of the pseudo-leftist of academe, who are frauds.

  • These people who manage to rise to the top at Berkeley, at Harvard, At Princeton, okay?

  • How many of these people are radical?

  • They are career people. They're corporate types, okay, who succeeded in-

  • They *love* the institutional context. They know how to manipulate the bureaucracy,

  • which has totally invaded and usurped academe everywhere, okay?

  • These people are company-players.

  • They could have done well in any field, okay? They love to sit on endless committees.

  • They love bureaucratic regulation, and so on. There's not-

  • Not one *Leftist* in American academia raised his or her voice against obscene growth of tuition costs,

  • which have bankrupted a whole generation of young people.

  • Not one voice to challenge that invasion by the bureaucrats, okay, absolute fascist bureaucrats, okay,

  • with- who had a- They're like, uh, cancerous, okay?

  • There's so many of them, the faculty have completely lost any power in American Academia, okay?

  • It's a scandal what has happened. I mean-

  • And they deserve the present servitude that they're in right now, because they never protested, okay?

  • When I- My first job at Bennington college, 1976 I was there, when there was an uprising by the faculty

  • against encroachment by the board of trustees and the president, and It was a huge thing. It Was reported on

  • The New York Times and so on and we pushed that president out and and there's not been a single

  • uprising of that kind against encroachment by the trustees and by the administrations,

  • and all these decades, passive slaves- Slaves! They *deserve* their slavery.

  • Yep, I couldn't agree more. I've thought the same thing about university professors for a long time.

  • is that they get exactly what they deserve because they never stand up and say, "no,"

  • and the fact that- In the United States it's not quite as bad in Canada, i wouldn't say, but the fact that the

  • students have been essentially handed a bill of indentured servitude here

  • for their student loans is absolutely beyond comprehension. You know, it seems to me that the

  • bureaucracy has basically conspired to determine how to pick the pockets of

  • The Students future earnings right and They do that By offering them an Extended adolescence With no quality control

  • something Like That so it's a real Bargain with the devil and Antle the abandonment of any Kind of Education Actually in history and culture

  • All right Think it's gone Along With It that is the

  • Transformation into a cafeteria

  • Kind of a Menu okay we can Pick This course or that Course of This course without any Kind of Guidance From the University about

  • A central core curriculum That teaches you history and Chronology and Introduces you to the basics

  • Because Oh yeah because our professors are such prima donnas they can Only teach in their little areas so we have this total

  • Fragmentation okay the Great Art History Survey Courses are being abandoned

  • Instead of Lincoln Because Why because graduate students are not trained to see the great

  • Narratives or the net Wheel Because we are taught Now that Narratives are false okay so That's another issue that i'd like to bring up

  • Because One of The Things i cannot figure out is the alliance between the post modernists and the

  • Neo-Marxists i can't Understand The Causal relationship There Because the

  • Tell me if you disagree with This okay because

  • I'm a Psychologist not a

  • Sociologist and so I'm dabbling in things that are outside of My Field Of expertise and There Is some danger in that but the center

  • The Central post Modernist claim Seems to me that Because There's a Near infinite Number of Ways to interpret a complex set of

  • Phenomena Which Which Actually happens to be the case

  • That You can't make a case That Any of Those Modes of Interpretation are canonical and so if They're not canonical

  • If that and if That

  • Canonical Element Isn't Based in some Kind of Reality Then It Serves some Other Master and so the Master that it

  • Hypothetically Serves for The post Modernists is nothing But Power Because That Seems to be everything that They believe in they don't believe in

  • Competence They don't believe in Authority They don't

  • Seem to believe in an objective World Because Everything is language mediated so it's an extraordinarily

  • Cynical perspective That That Because There's an infinite Number of

  • interpretations none of Them are canonical You can attribute It everything to power and dominance

  • okay so that Does that Seem like a Reasonable Summary of the

  • Okay it's a Radical relativism Now but the strange Thing Is despite okay and so What Goes Along with that is the demolition of Grand

  • Narratives and so That Would Be associated for Example with The rejection of Thinkers Like Jung and Eric Norman Because of Course Their

  • Foundational Thinkers in relationship to the idea that there are embodied grand Narratives That's never Touched but Then

  • Despite the fact that the grand narrative is Rejected There's a Neo Marxism That's Tightly Tightly allied With

  • Post-Modernism That Also Seems to shade Into This strange identity Politics and i don't

  • Two Things i don't understand the Causal relationship They're like The the skeptical part of me thinks That

  • Post-Modernism Was a Was an Intellectual its Intellectual camouflage for the continuation of the Kind of Pathological

  • Marxism That Produced the soviet union and that has no independent existence As an Intellectual field Whatsoever

  • but i still can't Understand How the post modernists can Make The no grand narrative claim

  • But Then

  • immerse Themselves in This grand narrative Without

  • Anyone Pointing Out the evident contradictions like i don't understand that so what do you think about that well i can Only Speak about Literary

  • professors Really and They Seemed to me almost Universally in the u.s

  • To be very naive i they Seem to know nothing about Actual History political science or economics

  • So it is simply an attitude They have an attitude it

  • Marxism and become Simply a Badge By Which They telegraph Their

  • Their Solidarity With a Working Class That They have nothing to do with i mean Easy and Generally nothing But contempt yes and the Thing

  • Is that that the campus leftist are almost notorious for their for theirs Rather snobbish Treatment of Staff and They don't They don't

  • Have Any rapport With The Actual Working Class members of The

  • you Know of the infrastructure the janitor The Janitors and you Know even That's even The secretaries there's a Kind of High and Mighty

  • Aristocracy You Know but There was Just these are People who

  • Who have Wandered into the english department and are products of a Time When

  • During The The new criticism may wait When history of history and Psychology had Been Excluded right i Mean My

  • Ambition okay Was i mean i love the New criticism okay as As a Style of Textual

  • Analysis right and and that in the new criticism had

  • Multiple Interpretations

  • Okay that were possible okay and then They were encouraged in fact one of the one of the Great projects was made in max of

  • Serious 20th Century Views When you had at Least Books i Adored them in college It was about Jane Austen or about you know

  • Emily Bronte or about

  • Wordsworth and They were collections of alternate views of The same Thing the idea that no alternate views and there was no

  • Relativistic the situational Kind of an interpretive approach is nonsense okay i'm but the point was we needed to restore

  • History to literary Literary Study okay and we Needed to add

  • Psychology to it because it was there was Great animus against freud and When i arrived in

  • Graduate School in fact i actually went into the director of graduate studies and protested The way freud in Freudian were used as

  • negative Terms Play in a Sneering Way by The Very Wasp professors right so we need to do

  • Actually It Seemed Like we were moving there came in the Early 1970s Was a Great Period of Psycho

  • Biography about Great about political Figures okay

  • so i thought it's happening Let's Say and all of a Sudden It all Got Short-Circuited by This arrival You know of post structuralism and

  • Post-Modernism in The in the in the 1970s right so i

  • I feel i'm an old Historicist, okay,

  • not a new Historicist. I having i think new Historicism is an absolute scam.

  • right and it's like- it's just a way- it's like tweezers do you like Just a

  • Little Bit of This a Little Bit of That a Little Bit of that you make a Little tiny

  • Salad i guess and I'm some of This Atomized Thing Right it's supposed to

  • Mean something it's all to me very superficial Very Cynical a

  • Very distance i like i am i am the product okay of old historicism the German Philosopher

  • Profession When i was a Child What Was Ejected

  • Archeology Like I'm everything i ever think about or Say Is

  • Related to an Enormous time scheme okay from from Antiquity and Indeed from the stone age

  • and That is the problem with these People: They're mal-educated. The post-Modernists and

  • Academic Marxist okay are mal educated

  • Embarrassingly so okay they know nothing before the present. Foucault is

  • absolutely a joke before the Enlightenment.

  • Perhaps he might Be useful People to talk about What happens after

  • Neoclassicism Which by the way he failed to notice okay a Lot of What he was talking about It turns Out to see be simply

  • The Hangover of Neoclassicism okay

  • This is how ignorant that Man Was i Mean he's he was he was not Talented as a Researcher he knew absolutely

  • nothing okay was so you know nothing about Antiquity how can you make any Kind of large

  • structure large mechanism you know to analyze Western culture Without Knowing about

  • Classical Antiquity he did not see anything This Was a Person Who had no business

  • Making Large Theoretical Statements about anything Well Maybe Part of It is that if you if you

  • Generate an Intelligible doctrine of Radical relativism Then There is no reason to assume that there are distinctions between

  • Categories of Knowledge or Between different Levels of quality of Knowledge right so

  • I've seen The same Thing in in the psychology Departments although We Have the?

  • What Would you call it the Luxury of being Bounded at Least to some degree by the

  • Empirical Method and By Biology Right It's one of The things that Keeps most of the Branches of

  • Psychology relatively sane you know because the Real World is Actually built into it to some degree but

  • If you accept the

  • Postmodernist Claim of Radical relativism then You completely demolish The idea That there our quality levels That are associated with Education

  • Because Everything Becomes The same and That Seems to me to be a perfectly reasonable Justification for Maintaining Ignorance

  • You Know like Foucault i Actually Found Him the most readable of the locka

  • Derrida Foucault triad You can Read foucault i Read Madness and

  • Civilization and a Couple of His other Books and i thought They were Painfully obvious you know the idea That

  • Mental disorder Is in part a Social Construct Is self-Evident to anybody

  • Who has Even a Smattering of psychiatric training i Mean That the Real Narrow medical Types tend to to think of a

  • Mental disorder Let's Say As something That might Be Purely Biological They have a pure disease Model But Nobody's Who's a

  • sophisticated Thinker ever Thinks That it's a

  • Bit Partly Because medicine Is a Brand of engineering Not a brand of science Because it's associated with Health and the

  • Diagnostic Categories are Hybrids Between

  • Physiological Observation and socio-cultural Condition Everyone Knows That and so When i Read Madness and

  • Civilization i thought Well That's Not radical That's Just Bloody

  • self-Evident But Well you Know Foucault's Admirers Actually Think that he began you know the entire Turn toward a Sort of Sociological

  • you Know Grounding of Modern Psychology to social Psychology Was well well Launched in the 1920s for

  • Examine The Levels of Ignorance of These People Who think foucault Is so original have not Read?

  • Durkheim They've Not Read Marks of Weber They've never Read urban Goffman okay so in other Words Through to me

  • Everything Is Foucault Seem obvious to me because i had Read the sources from Which he was Borrowing Without attribution

  • So i mean Again i know these People i mean i mean in some cases

  • Knew them in graduate school People Who went on to become these

  • These Admirers of Foucault

  • Lacan derrida and I know What Their training Was Their training Was Purely Within the english department That's all They ever Knew They never made

  • Any Research Outside of That Right and so the idea so they

  • Foucault is simply This is a Mechanism

  • It's like a Little Tiny kit by Which they can approach everything in culture and Then and then They put the contortions of language the

  • Deliberate Labyrinth in Elitist language at The same time as pretending to be a leftist

  • Okay this is one of the biggest Frauds Every practice so i got a Story to tell you That

  • you Might Like Because i've Thought a lot about that use of language you know because

  • Language can Be Used as camouflage and so, Here's the Story i think i Got this from Robert Sapolsky?

  • So he was talking about Zebras and

  • Zebras Of Course have stripes and hypothetically That's associated with camouflage but it's it's not a straightforward

  • Association Because Zebras are Black and White and They're on the veldt Along With the lions the lions are

  • camouflage Because They are grass colored But the Bloody Zebras are Black and White you can See them like 15 miles away, so ok so

  • Biologists Go Out to study Zebras and They're Like

  • Making notes on a Zebra and They Watch It then they look down at Their notes and then They look up but they think oh?

  • No, no, Which zebra i was looking at so

  • The camouflage is Actually against The Heard Because of Zebras a Herd Animal not an individual and so

  • The Black and White stripes break Up the animal against The herd so you can't identify It so this Was a

  • Quandary for the Biologist so they did one of Two Things One Was

  • drive a Jeep Up to the to the zebra Herd and use a dab of Red paint and Dab the horns of the zebra or

  • tag It with an ear tag Like he used for cattle

  • The Lions Would Kill it

  • So as soon as it became

  • identifiable The

  • Predator Yes

  • The predators Could organize Their Hunt Around That identify about animal That's Why you know there's the old Idea That

  • Lions and predators Take Down the Weak animals but They don't They take down the

  • identifiable animals so That's the Thing is if you stick your Damn hand up

  • You Get Picked off by The predators and so One of The things that Academics seem to do is congregate together and herd-Like

  • Entities and Then They share a language right and the language Unites them and

  • Also Keeps Them as long as They share the same set of linguistic Tools Among Themselves

  • They're they know that there isn't anybody in the in the coterie That's going to attack them or deeds

  • Destabilize The entire herd and that Seems to me to account for that impenetrable use of language it's it's it's Group

  • Protection strategy and It has Absolutely nothing to do with the search for

  • It's the Search for Security Within a System and not the desire to Expand the system

  • But it'S to me it's Blatantly Careerist Because It Was it was about

  • Advancement and It was also about the claim that Somehow

  • They have Like Special expertise This is a Special Technical language no One else can Understand That Only Only a Weekend But What's absurd about

  • It absolutely

  • Ludicrous all Right That These People These These American Academics who are imitating the contorted language of French

  • Translations From The French okay

  • When Lack Call is translated into into english Right There's a

  • Contortion There okay he's what he was trying to do in french Was to break up okay the

  • Neoclassical

  • Formulations That Descended From arras scene there Was something that Was going on there Was a Sabotage of The french language going on that Was?

  • Necessary in france not Necessary in english We Have This long tradition of

  • Poetry Going back to the shakespearean Chaucer We Have We Have our own language?

  • Far more Vital Than That Than the french oh yeah the french constrain Their language all The time but my dear?

  • Facility in Amateurism okay of American Academics trying to imitate okay a

  • Chance a chinois

  • okay When like Costumes something in france that is Actually not Necessary and Indeed wrong to be doing in english right the

  • Other Cynical Abandonment okay of the Great tradition of

  • you Know of the english Departments i and iii i felt That the true Radicalism Was not about adding on other

  • Departments okay so we have

  • African-American Studies and You Know and and and Women's studies and so on the true radicalism would have Been Just to Shatter The

  • Departmental structure That's What i wanted i feel that Was the authentic revolutionary Nineteen Sixties Thing to do right

  • Tell It to blend all the literate literature studies studies Together okay

  • to make Easier to make an interdisciplinary Kind of

  • Organization you Know closer to the british Model Where a person can Pursue related Subjects Overlapping Subjects

  • These dip These Depart Mental Models okay are were to me

  • Totalitarian to Begin With okay separating the language into fiefdom and and and What What this did to create the english What Women's studies Department

  • Absolutely Out of The air Just Snap Your fingers and create Women Studies the english department had taken a Century to develop okay that Way?

  • It Was a Huge argument okay within Within Within It right and all of a Sudden to create okay

  • A department where they

  • politicize agenda From The start and hey by People Without any training Whatever in that Field i Mean What should Be the what Should be

  • The parameters of The field Which Would be the requirements of that Field How about Biology

  • okay if you're going to be discussing gender that Should

  • Have Been a Number One requirement okay as Part of Any Women's studies department or program but no okay

  • It Was all Hands off It Was Just the

  • Administrators Wanted To solve a public relations problem They had a Situation with Very Few Women Faculty

  • Nationwide at a time When the women's movement had Just started up that spotlight of Attention Was Was on them they want They Needed Women

  • Faculty Fast They Need to do with the with the women's subject on the agenda fast right so they Just like Poof

  • Let There be Women studies okay and Now we'll Just hire some women and usually from english Departments you know

  • Here and there and we'll Just Throw them together you invent it you Say What it is so That's Why women's studies Got

  • Frozen At a Certain Point of ideologies

  • okay of The Early

  • 1970s i was

  • Already in Revolt From It okay i was a precursor in terms of My endorsement of feminism Before It before even Now was created Right

  • But i couldn't yeah i couldn't even have a Conversation With Any of These Women They were?

  • Hysterical about The subject of Biology They Knew nothing about Hormones and i i mean i i

  • Probably Got in fistfights

  • Over This They What People were so

  • Convinced That Biology had nothing Whatever to do with gender differences see that also Seems to me to be related

  • To the postmodern emphasis on power yeah Because There's a There's something?

  • Terrible Underground Going on there that Is and i think this is the sort of Thing That Was Reflected in the soviet union

  • Too and the especially in the 20s When there was this idea a Radical idea that You could

  • Remake Human Beings Entirely Right Because They have no essential nature and so if your Fundamental

  • Hypothesis is that nothing Exists Except Power and you believe That then that also Gives you the right in some sense to

  • exercise Your Power at The Creation of the Kind of Humanity That Your

  • Utopian Vision envisions and Then That has no that and that also Seems to me to justify the postmodern insistence That

  • Everything is Only a Linguistic

  • Construct It Again Goes down to the notion of Power Which derrida and Foucault and locke Our so bloody obsessed with and

  • so and It Seems to me what They're trying to do is to it to take all

  • All the potential Power for the Creation of Human Beings to Themselves Without Any Bounding Conditions?

  • Whatsoever right There's no History There's no biology There's and and everything Is a Fluid culture that can be

  • Manipulated at Will and so i mean in canada there are terrible arguments Right Now about

  • Biological essentialism Let's Say And One of The Things that Happened Which Was something i objected to precisely a Year ago is that the social

  • constructionist view of Human Identity has Been Built now into canadian law so there's an insistence That

  • Biological sex

  • Gender Identity Gender Expression and Sexual Proclivity Very

  • Independently With no causal

  • Relationship Between Any of The levels and so That's in the law and not Only is It in the law it's being Taught

  • Everywhere it's being taught in the armed Forces

  • it's being taught in the police it's being taught to the Elementary School Kids and the Junior High school Kids and

  • Underneath It all i see this terrible

  • Striving for Arbitrary Power That's associated with This Crazy utopianism and and and

  • but i still don't Exactly Understand It i don't like i don't Understand That

  • What seems to be the hatred that motivates It that You see bubbling Up for Example in identity Politics and and

  • in the desire to do nothing But Let's Say Demolish The

  • Patriarchy It Kind of Reminds me and this is something else i wanted to talk to you about you know and

  • You're you're an Admirer of Eric Norman and all you yeah and That's the

  • Norman Connection is Really interesting cuz i think he's a Bloody Genius i Really like the great mother Is a Great

  • Book and I'm Really a Great Warning that. Book and also the origins and History of Consciousness

  • Yeah But That's so interesting i Read an Essay that you wrote

  • Yes it's always Been staggering to me that that book hasn't had the impact that it Should

  • Have had i Mean Young Himself in the preface to that book?

  • Wrote that that Was the book that he wished that he would have Written it's Very Much associated With Young Symbols of

  • Transformation and It Was a Major influence on my book maps of Meaning Which Was an Attempt to

  • Outline the universal Archetypes That are portrayed in the Kind of religious structures that you

  • That You Put Forward but The thing that i really see happening and you can tell me what you think about this in annoyance book?

  • Consciousness Which is

  • Masculine symbolically Masculine for a Variety of Reasons Is is viewed as

  • Rising Up

  • Against The countervailing Force of Tragedy from an Underlying

  • feminine symbolically feminine Unconsciousness Right and it's something That Can Always Be pulled back into that unconsciousness That Would Be the

  • Microcosm of That Would be The Freudian eatable mother

  • Familial Dynamic Where the mother is so over

  • protective and all-Encompassing

  • That She Interferes with the development of The competence not Only of her sons but also of her Daughters of her Children in General and

  • It seems to me that That's the

  • Dynamic That's being Played Out in our society Right Now is that there's this and

  • It's it's related in some Way that i don't understand to this to this

  • Insistence That all Forms of masculine Authority are nothing But Tyrannical Power so the Symbolic representation is

  • Tyrannical Father With no

  • Appreciation for the benevolent Father and

  • Benevolent mother With no appreciation Whatsoever for the tyrannical mother right and That's that and because i thought of ideologies as

  • Fragmentary Mythologies That's Where They Get Their

  • Archetypal and Psychological Power Right and so in a Balanced representation You have the terrible mother and the great mother as?

  • Knowing Been Laid Out so Nicely and

  • You Have the terrible father and the Great Father so That'S the fact that culture bangels you have to Death well it's also?

  • Promoting you in developing you you have to see that as balanced and then You have the heroic and Adversarial individual but in the?

  • Postmodern World and This Seems to be something That's increasingly

  • Seeping Out into the culture at large you have nothing but the tyrannical father?

  • nothing But The destructive Force of masculine consciousness and nothing but the benevolent

  • Benevolent Great mother and It's a it's an appalling ideology and It Seems to me that it's sucking the vitality

  • Which is Exactly What you would Expect symbolically it's sucking the Vitality of Our culture you see that with the increasing

  • Demolition of

  • Young men

  • and Not Only Young men in terms of Their Academic performance Which like They're Falling Way behind

  • in Elementary School Way behind in Junior High and Bailing Out of the universities like Mad and so and i

  • Well The Public school Education become completely Permeated by This Kind of my anti male

  • Propaganda i mean and i need to me public Schools are Just a form of imprisonment you Know right Now they're particularly

  • Destructive to young men who have a Lot of physical Energy

  • Now you know i identify as transgender gay Mic Myself away but i do not i do not

  • require the entire world to alter itself okay to fit my particular The self-image i do believe in

  • The Power of Hormones i believe that men Exist and Women Exist and They are biologically different i think that i think there is

  • No cure for

  • The Cultures ills Right Now Except If men Start standing opera in demanding That They be

  • Respected As men okay okay so i got a question about That

  • So so one of The Things we did a research Project a Year ago trying to figure out if there Was such a Thing as

  • Political Correctness From a Psychometric perspective to find out if there the loose

  • Aggregation of Beliefs Actually Clumped Together

  • Statistically and We Actually Found two factors Which i won't go into but then we Looked at Things That predicted adherence to that That?

  • Politically Correct Creed and There were a couple That were surprising one was being female Was a predictor

  • The

  • Personality attributes associated With Femininity so that Would Be Agreeableness and higher levels of negative emotion were also both

  • independent predictors but so were symptoms of personality disorder Which i thought Was really important Because Part of What i see happening is That

  • Like i think that Women whose relationship with men have has Been Seriously?

  • Pathologized Cannot distinguish Between male Authority and competence and male

  • Tyrannical Power Like They fail to differentiate because all They see is the oppressive male and then They may Have had Experiences that That?

  • Their Experiences with men might have Been Rough enough so that That differentiation never occurred Because it has to occur

  • And You have to have a Lot Of Experience with men and Good men do before that will occur?

  • But It Seems to me that we're also increasingly dominated By a view of Masculinity That's Mostly Characteristic of Women who have terrible

  • Personality disorders and Who are unable to have Healthy relationships with men Now but Here's the problem you know?

  • This is something My Wife is pointed Out to she said well men are gonna have to stand up for Themselves but Here's the problem?

  • I know how to stand up to a man Who's

  • Whose

  • Unfairly

  • Trespassed Against me and the reason i know that is because the parameters for My resistance are quite well-Defined Which is

  • We talk We argue we Push and then It Becomes physical

  • Right Like If We Move Beyond The Boundaries of civil discourse we Know what the Next step is ok That's Forbidden in in

  • Discourse with Women and so i don't think that men can control Crazy Women i don't they i really don't believe it i think That

  • They have to Throw Their Hands up in in in in what in in it's not even disbelief

  • It's that The cultural There's no step Forward That You can take Under Those Circumstances

  • Because if the Man Is offensive enough and Crazy Enough The

  • Reaction Becomes Physical Right Away or at Least The Threat is there and

  • When men are talking to each Other in any serious Manner That Underlying Threat of

  • Physicality is Always there especially if It's a real conversation and Keeps The Things civilized to some degree you know iF you're talking to a

  • Man Who wouldn't fight with You under any Circumstances Whatsoever then you're talking

  • To someone to whom you have absolutely no respect but i can't See any Way for Example

  • There's a There's a Woman in in toronto Who's Been?

  • Organizing This movement Let's Say Against me and some Other People who are gonna do a free speech

  • Event and she Managed to organize quite effectively and She's quite?

  • offensive You might Say She compared us to nazis for Example Which you know publicly

  • Using The Swastika Which wasn't really something i was all That far in Depth but i i'm defenseless against That Kind of female

  • Insanity Because The

  • Techniques That i would use against a Man Who was employing those tactics are Forbidden to me

  • So i don't know like It seems to me that It isn't men that have to stand up and Say Enough of This even though

  • That is What They Should do It Seems to me that it's same Women who have to stand up against Their Crazy

  • sisters and Say Look enough of That enough man-Hating enough

  • Pathology enough Bringing disgrace on us as a Gender But

  • The problem there and then They'll Start My little tirade is that most of the Women i know

  • Who are saying are Busy doing same Thing

  • Right They're off They have Their career They have Their Family They're quite occupied and they don't seem

  • To have the time or maybe even the interest to go after Their Their Crazy Harpy sisters and so i don't see any

  • regulating Force For That That terrible Femininity and It Seems to me to be

  • Invading the culture and

  • undermining The The masculine Power of the culture in a Way That's i think

  • Fatal i really do Believe that i - i too believe these are

  • Symptomatic of the decline of Western culture and We and it Will Just Go down flat i don't think People realize that you know

  • Masculinity Still Exists okay in the World As a Code among Jihadists

  • Okay and when you have passionate Masculinity okay circling the Borders like The huns and the Vandals during The roman empire

  • That's what i see i see this culture rotting from Within okay and

  • Disemboweling Itself Literally Now mile an Overview of Why we're having this problem

  • and It comes from The fact that I'm the product of an immigrant Family all four of My

  • Grandparents and My mother were born in Italy

  • so i remember from my earliest Years in This factory Town in upstate New York where the wife of My relatives came to work in

  • The shoe Factory i can Remember Still okay

  • They the life of the Agrarian era okay which we're not Which Was for most of Human History

  • The Agrarian era

  • Where there was the World of men and the World of Women and the sexes had Very little to do with each Other

  • Each had power and status in its own Realm Right and They Laughed at Each Other in in essence

  • The Way the Women had enormous power in fact the old Women Ruled not the young Beautiful Woman Like Today but

  • The Older You were the more you had control Over Everyone including the mating and marriage

  • Um there were no doctors so though

  • you had the you know the old Women were like Midwives and Knew all the ins and outs of This and inherited Knowledge about Pregnancy

  • and All These Other Things right i can Remember This in the Ignition and and the Joy That

  • Women had with each Other all day Long okay cooking With each Other a

  • Companions to each Other talking conversing My mother Remembered As a Small Child in Italy When It Was time to do the laundry

  • They Would take The Laundry Up the mount up the hill to the fountain You'll soar go okay

  • And do It by Hand they would sing They Would picnic and so on alright and we Get a glimpse of that in the Odyssey

  • When Odysseus is is is Thrown up naked on the shores of phoenicia alright and and he Hears the sound of Women Young Women

  • Laughing and Singing and it'S no Nikki or the princess Bringing the Women to do the laundry

  • He's Exactly The same Thing ok? So there was a Each Gender Had its own?

  • Hierarchy its own Values its own Way of talking and the sex is rarely

  • Intersected Like I can Remember in My in childhood and a Holiday Typical ago It could Be a Christmas It could Be a

  • Thanksgiving Whatever all after Then Women Would be cooking all day Long Everyone Would Sit down to eat

  • ok and then After That

  • ok

  • The Women were retired on

  • Master The Kitchen and the men would go i would i would look at the Food window and see all the men the men would

  • Be all outside usually Gather on the car

  • Ok a time When cars didn't

  • Work as Well as They do today with the hood up

  • Okay and the men Would be standing with Their Hands on Their Hips like That?

  • Everyone's Staring at The engine and i went Yeah That's how i learned okay men were

  • refreshing Themselves By Studying something

  • Technical and Mechanical after Being With The Women okay you know for during the Dinner okay

  • So so also all of These problems of Today are the direct consequence of Women's emancipation and Freedom from

  • Housework Thanks to capitalism okay Which made It possible for Women to have Jobs That Said at home for The very first time in the?

  • Nineteenth Century no longer to be dependent on a Husband or father or brother right and so This Great

  • Great Thing That's Happened to us they're allowing us to be totally self

  • Knowing Self Supporting Independent Agents has Produced all This Animosity about maybe Too Many men and Women Because the Women

  • Women Feel Unhappy Women Today and Wherever i go whether it's Italy or brazil or England or America

  • or toronto okay the of the upper-Middle class professional Women are

  • Unhappy Miserable They want and They don't know What Why they're Unhappy they want to blame it on men okay the men must change

  • Men must become more Like Women no that is the wrong Way to go okay it's when men are men okay and

  • Understand Themselves As men are

  • Secure as men then you're going to be happier yeah well there's nothing more Dangerous Than a Weak man Yeah absolutely

  • Okay especially all These Quislings okay spouting feminists you Hear That okay it Makes me sick but Here's the point?

  • Men and Women Have never Worked side by side?

  • Ever Maybe on The

  • Farms okay when you were like maybe One person's in the potato field the other Ones over here in the tomato we're Doing Tomatoes or

  • Whatever okay you you had you had Families Working Working side by side

  • Exhausted With each Other no time to have It in any Clash of This It Was a collaborative effort on farms and so on

  • Never in all of Human History have men and Women Been Working side By side and Women are Now the pressure about silicon Valley?

  • They're also

  • Sexist oh there there say They don't allow Women in and so on the men are being men in silicon Valley

  • All right and They Should Be engineers and The Women are demanding that you're oh?

  • This is terrible You're being sick maybe the sex is okay have their own particular

  • Form of Rhetoric Their own particular form you know by Density okay maybe okay we Need to

  • Reexamine okay this Business about your they may be we have to perhaps

  • Accept some degree of tension and Conflict

  • Between The Sexes okay it in a Work environment i don't Mean Harassment I'm sorry I'm talking about Women Feeling

  • Disrespective Yeah how some how They're with their opinions When They Express them okay are not taking Seriously or or That

  • Even Hillary Clinton Is complaining oh When your Woman write something online She's Attacked

  • Immediately and Sorry Well Everyone's Attacked online What are you talking about the World is tough the World is

  • Competitive okay identity Is Whole okay by conflict the idea That There's Been no

  • Conflict That We Have to be in this back okay of approbation yes and

  • That's the devouring Cycle That's right It's

  • Absolutely infantile and Mean It okay so a couple of Things there well the first Thing is is that the the

  • AgreeaBleness trait That Divides men and Women most There's three Things that Divide Women and men most particularly from the

  • Psychrometric perspective One is that Women are more agreeable Than men and so that Seems to be the primary

  • Maternal Dimension as far As i can Tell it's associated with a desire to avoid conflict but it's it's associated with interpersonal Closeness

  • Compassion Politeness Women are reliably Hired

  • Especially in the Scandinavian countries and in the countries where egalitarianism has progressed the farthest so That's where the difference is

  • Maximized Which is one of the things James d'Amour Pointed Out quite Correctly in His

  • Infamous Google Memo okay women are higher and negative emotion so That's Anxiety and emotional Pain

  • Now that difference is approximately the same size and again That

  • Maximizes in egalitarian Societies Which is Extremely interesting and then The Biggest difference is the

  • Difference in interest Between People and Things and so Women are more interested in people and men are more

  • Interested in Things Which Goes Along quite Nicely with your car anecdote but

  • The Thing about men

  • Interacting With Men again is that It isn't That They respect each Other's Viewpoints

  • That's not Exactly Right What happens with a Man and i know a Lot of men that i would regard is as

  • Remarkably Tough People For One reason or another and

  • Everything You do with them is a form of Combat Like if you want your viewpoint Taken Seriously

  • Often you have to yell them down and like They're not gonna stop talking Unless you start talking over them you know and it's it's

  • Not like men are automatically Giving respect to other men Because that Just Doesn't Happen it's that the Combat is there and it's Expected and

  • One of the problems

  • and so this is part of The reason Why i think men are bailing out of

  • so much Of Academia and and maybe The Academic World in General and Maybe The World in General is That

  • Men Actually don't have any Idea how to compete with Women Because the problem is is that if you

  • Unleash Yourself

  • Completely Then you're an absolute bully and There's no Doubt about that Because iF

  • men unleash

  • Themselves on other men that can Be Pretty Goddamn Brutal especially for the men that are really Tough and this so that Just Doesn't Happen

  • With Women ever

  • but so you can't unleash Yourself completely if you win you're a Bully if You lose While you're Just Bloody

  • Pathetic so how the hell are you Supposed to play a game like That

  • you Know so in i've worked with lots of Women in law Firms in

  • Canada For Example and and High achieving Women Like Really remarkable People i would Say and They're often

  • Nonplussed i would Say By The attitude of the man in the law firm because They Would like to see everyone pulling together Because

  • All Part of The same team Whereas the Manner like at Each Other's Throats in an in a

  • Cooperative Way Because They want the law firm to succeed but They want

  • To be the person Who's at the top of the success

  • Hierarchy Right so and that that Doesn't Jive well with the more competitive or cooperative

  • Ethos That's Part and parcel Of Agreeableness and so

  • We don't really have any Idea how to integrate male and female Doormen Exactly Exactly

  • Exactly Right This is Why i love this show

  • a real Housewives me which is worse Than Mc scorns and Just Say It Just last night okay i was watching on an episode all

  • Right Where the Women were at each Other okay at a Party and all in

  • Recounting

  • But i said this to you and but you Said this to me anyway and the men and God we Got together there and Said

  • Well This is the way they communicate you know with each Other and you know Say in them you know men we men okay

  • Just Will have a fist fight and we'll Em in ten minutes Later we're gonna have a beer at The bar Where they met next?

  • To each Other and so i mean i have observed That Land Finland Yeah my Daughter My Daughter used to be really

  • irritated about That Because she she like most People

  • Was the target of feminine

  • conspiratorial Bullying At Once She's no pushover My Daughter so this Wasn't like This Was a

  • Continual Thing or that She Didn't know what to do about it but

  • She had to observe

  • These Girls conspiring Against her and then Blackening her name on on Facebook Which is part of It Part and parcel of The typical female

  • Bullying routine Which is often reputation demolition Right That There's a Good editor on that and then She'd Watch What Would Happen if

  • My Brother or my son would have a

  • Dispute with his friends you know and maybe They were drinking and there Was a dispute They'd Have a fight and then The next day

  • They were friends again and That's another Thing That strange is that like men have a Way of

  • Bringing a conflict to a head and Resolving It right and that It isn't obvious to me that Women have that same?

  • Perhaps You might Call It a Luxury but it's also the case that men don't know what to do when they get into a conflict

  • With a Woman Because What the hell are you Supposed to do you know Mostly What you're supposed to do is avoid It and and

  • Well i think you know i don't know whether the crosses into other countries but That there's a Certain Kind of Taunting and

  • The Men Boys do with each Other That toughen them okay and where they don't they don't take Things Seriously but

  • Girls Feelings Become Extremely Hurt if you Hear something like That it's Very Tough for you know again like Sarcastic

  • Against her so i mean i do Feel that there are

  • Profound differences Between The Sexes and in Terms of Emotions in Terms of communication patterns

  • you Know my father used to say That he could never follow Women's

  • Conversations he Said he said Women don't even finish Their Sentences They're there with Their Women?

  • Understand immediately What the Other Woman is Saying okay

  • And and you know in the way Women tend to be more interested in or have Been traditionally more interested in soap operas

  • It's not Just The Women were home Without Jobs

  • It's that Honestly i believe that Soap opera

  • Does Reflect Does Mirror The Way Women talk to each Other They Say these

  • Communication patterns have Been Built Up through Women in the World of Women okay Which Was It made sense there Was a Division of Labor

  • Okay It wasn't Sexism against Women That There Was a Division of Labor The men went off

  • to hunt and did the Dangerous Things the Women Stayed Around The hearth Because you had pregnant Women

  • Nursing Women older Women okay They were cooking and so on so i feel that these

  • Communication patterns That we're talking about have Been Built Up became over the centuries and then men had to toughen each Other

  • okay too hard to go out in the hunting parties the native americans you know it would Be They could be gone for two weeks

  • And It went When the temperature was Below zero Many of them died okay yes yeah the idea that somehow

  • Oh in any Kind of Separation of The sexes or different Spheres of the sexes Is

  • Inherently Sexist yeah an inherently Driven By all powered By Now the Answer to all of This okay everything That we're talking about okay is

  • Education Into Early History okay until you until People Understand The stone age of a Nomadic

  • Period the Agrarian era and the band how culture Health Civilization Built up okay in

  • Mesopotamia The Great Irrigation Projects Where orange or in Egypt Today Where you had for the first Thing

  • Centralized Government Authority Became Necessary okay to master these Leaves and you had a Situation where an

  • Environmentally You know you know a difficult Situation Like The deserts of mesopotamia or the the peculiar

  • Character of Egyptian Geography Where you can Only have a Little Tiny fertile line Along The edges Of a Nile

  • okay otherwise desert Landscape so the This

  • Civilization and Authority Came Right It's not Necessarily about Power Grabbing But about

  • Organization to achieve something for the good of The people as a Whole

  • yes you Will see That's well That's Exactly The symbolism of the Greeks by Reducing all

  • Hierarchy to to power you know and and selfish Power okay it's it is utterly Naive its ignorant so i

  • Say Education has to be totally Reconstituted

  • Including Public

  • Education to begin in the most distant past it's so that so our Young People Today who know nothing about

  • How the World Was created Today and Have It okay can Understand okay what Marvelous in particular Like

  • Paradise They live in and it's the product of capitalist is the product of individual

  • Innovation it'S the Project most of it'S the product of a Western tradition That Everyone Wants to trash Now is there if you beget in

  • The Past and show It also Talk about war Maybe

  • With the more is the one Thing that Wakes People up okay as we See war as we Need to see

  • Yes okay

  • Wars The Reality Prints of My of the father and all in five of My Uncle's went to world war two you know and

  • My Father Was It was Part of The force That Landed in Japan okay a

  • paratrooper you Know at The time of The japanese Surrender okay

  • and My couple Uncle's Got Shot Up and so on when you have the reality of war When People

  • See the reality of The horrors of war Berlin Burned

  • To a crisp and and so on your starvation okay then You Understand okay in this Marvelous

  • Mechanism That Brings Water you know to you to the to the kitchen and you Slip on a Lightly

  • The Electricity Electricity cuz i know of for me like and i suppose it's because i have somewhat of a depressive temperament i mean

  • One Thing That

  • Staggers me on a consistent Basis is the fact that anything ever Works i Mean Because it'S so unlikely you know to

  • To be in a Situation Where our

  • Electronic

  • communications Work where are where our electric Grid

  • Works and It Works All The time right It Works a Hundred Percent of The time and the reason for that is that there are

  • Mostly men Out there who are breaking Themselves into pieces repairing This Thing Which Just falls apart all the time i

  • Said this in the monk debate okay in toronto Several Years Ago i said there's the invisible all these?

  • Cds you Know these are the latest in professors sneering and men it'S men who are

  • Maintaining Everything Around Us or anything This is an invisible Army okay Which of you would you feminists don't notice Right

  • Nothing Would Work or regarded Regarded as impressive Which is you know and like a professor is someone Who's

  • Standing on a Hill

  • Surrounded By a Wall Which is surrounded by another Wall Which is surrounded by another Wall like its walls all the Way down who stands

  • Up there and Says I'M brave and independent it's like You've Got This protected area That's so unlikely it'S so absolutely

  • Unlikely and The fact That People Aren't on their Knees in gratitude all The time for the fact that we have central heating and Air?

  • Conditioning and

  • pure water and reliable Food it'S Just it'S so It is absolutely unbelievable

  • Used to die and then the Water Supply me with it with It Was contaminated with cholera for evans Sakes a People Understand okay they

  • Had Clean Water and fresh Milk fresh orange Juice all of These Things There's a mom at all of The time all the Time

  • and That's in

  • Western Cultures Is heading okay Because because we are so dependent on this on This invisible infrastructure we're a Heading for an absolute catastrophe

  • When

  • Jihadists figure Out How to paralyze the power grid the entire culture Will be be

  • Chaotic You'll Have Mobs in the street okay you know Within three Days

  • Okay wait a minute so Suddenly the Food Supply iS interrupted and There's no like There's no Way to communicate

  • They'll Be like You're the robber i mean that that is the way western culture is going to collapse okay

  • It won't take Much it'S a single point so silly Because we are so interconnected

  • Now we are so it's so it's so dependent on communications and computers they

  • Eat It i

  • Used to print for Years it'll be an asteroid hitting there yeah well you never Know another i know how the solar Flares Work

  • so back and this happens about once Every Century so back about 1880 and i don't remember the exact Year There Was a

  • Significant enough Solar flare so that Produces an electromagnetic pulse like a Hydrogen Bomb Because the sun is a Hydrogen bomb and

  • electromagnetic Pulse will emerge from the sun and Wave across the earth and It produces Huge spikes in Electrical

  • Electrical Current Along Anything That's electronic and it'll Burn Them out it let It live Telegraph operators on fire in the 1800s and

  • One of Those Things took out The quebec power grid in

  • 1985 and Knocked Out The Whole northeast Corridor and so They figure those Things are about 1 in a Century event

  • But Those single While you have My brother-in-Law Who's a Very Smart guy he designed the chip an iphone we were talking about political issues

  • The last time i went and Saw Him in San Francisco and His notion Was That

  • All That The Government Should Be Doing right Now is stress testing our infrastructure the same way They stress test the banks

  • Because we're so full of These single Points of Failure that and i think you're absolutely Right Luckily we've Been

  • What Would you call

  • Invaded By Stupid Terrorists Instead of Smart Terrorists Because a

  • Smart Terrorist Could do an unbelievable Amount of damage in a Very short Period of Time

  • So and it's Just God's Good graces that that hasn't Happened yet

  • And so What Will Happen is that it's the men ok the men will reconstruct

  • Civilization While The Women cower in the Houses and have the men go out and do all The Dirty Work That's What'S gonna Happen again?

  • Only men Will Bring Civilization back again

  • so what ok so now a couple of Things so the

  • Universities i Mean i've

  • proposed although it'S something That's probably Beyond my Power That

  • What Should Happen is that the Universities the real content of The universities Should Be Stolen back from the universities Because They're not making Use

  • of Their Intellectual property and that something Should Be Started online That Would constitute a genuine University The problem is the

  • Accreditation issue but i don't think That's an

  • Unsolvable problem but do you see

  • Like All These People Who have these Postmodern neo-Marxist Agendas are completely embedded Inside the University

  • And the point is over over the last 25 Years i Have received constant mail?

  • From People Dropping Out of the graduate Schools

  • and or giving up all Together on any Idea of being a college professor so What's happened is that The most Talented and

  • Independent Thinking People They have Avoided in the Schools so we're now what who we have are the compliant the servile ok?

  • The People Who are currently in the university and and Hiring Their Successors They are

  • Male educated Themselves okay me i went on the first letters i received in the Early?

  • 1990s i'll never Forget It so I'm a Woman who was now to painting Houses in missouri and

  • Said she had Been Part of the comparative literature

  • graduate program at You know at Berkeley and that she Finally had to drop Out because she said every time she would Express

  • Enthusiasm for What They were reading the People looked at her as if she had somehow accredited offense and although in other words

  • Enthusiasm For Art or Neither The Very Things you Need as a teacher in the classroom okay we're being

  • Retrained Out Yeah well the Thing is if you respect art literature that means that you

  • Implicitly Accept a Hierarchy of quality right and That of Course

  • Contradicts The Fundamental tenants of The Postmodern doctrine Which is that there are no Hierarchies of quality and you know you

  • Talked a Little Bit earlier about the

  • The idea that You Referred again to the idea that everything is

  • Associated With Power and That's That's the Thing that i can't That That's the thing that i can't Help but

  • associate with with a Kind of Personality Pathology Like You Know from a psychometric

  • perspective The best predictors of Long-Term Success in our society are intelligence Iq

  • Which you can Measure Very accurately and trait

  • conscientiousness Which

  • Actually Is a Real testament to the culture right Because What you hope is that the Smart People Who Work hard are the people who

  • Advance no It isn't like They deserve It Exactly that isn't What i mean it's that if the culture is

  • Harnessing The productive Power of individuals properly Then It Should differentially Reward People Who are smart and

  • Conscientious Because They're going to do a bunch of Really interesting Work for the rest of Us and that That's Very well-Established

  • Finding it's it's as Good as any finding in the social Sciences but

  • despite that and despite the fact that everything Works Which is a Goddamn miracle of sorts There is This

  • Consistent Story That We live in a

  • Patriarchy That It's only

  • oppressive That it'S done nothing But Oppress Women since the Beginning of time Which is also something That Just Boggles my mind you know

  • Like i know they have Sacrificed for Women and Children?

  • Hakuna Their Lives okay for Thousands of Years You know yes there's Been Brutality but the brutality is the Minority

  • okay yes This this is sick i

  • Portrayal of Human History is nothing But male oppression and female victim inch i Mean This is a Way to

  • To permanently ensure the infantilization of Women yes yes well and you Know there did you can Even make the case from a Purely logical

  • Perspective so so Here's an interesting

  • Here's an interesting fact

  • So most of The People Who abuse their Children

  • were abused as Children

  • But most of The People Who were abused as Children don't abuse their Children

  • Right so if you look at the population of abusers They were all abused so you can Say abuse causes abuse

  • But That's That's not a good idea because you have a specific Sample there right It's not a Random Sample What happens is that abuse?

  • Dampens Out of Over the centuries It Doesn't propagate itself and That's obvious Because if there Was if the

  • Hypothesis of Essential male Tyranny Was true it Would Spread

  • Exponentially Through The Population in like three generations and There Wouldn't be an Exception at all and so What Happens is

  • Even When there is a Tilt Towards Tyranny Let's Say in the family or even in the society That

  • Regresses back to something That'S far more Benign Very Very rapidly and you see this so

  • One of the biggest Unexamined Issues Is the transition from the Great extended Family of old okay into the Nuclear Family and

  • I do Feel That freud is the best

  • Analyst of The particular Kind of Claustrophobic

  • Cell of The Modern Nuclear

  • Family

  • It could Be The Human being It could Be That Human Beings were never intended okay to be trapped in a house Just With Their

  • Parents The Extended Family They were you and your Aunts and you know and Grandparents and and in cousins

  • All of Whom Helped form your identity okay so one had One's identity Was What is a Member of a Community

  • Rather Than in this like hothouse environment so i think a Lot of Current issues

  • Including This subspace of Transgender Claims and so on that a Lot of These Things are coming from

  • This unstable Of in

  • in itself it's really a Prison cell okay of the Nuclear Family Two parents Perhaps Cannot give all The knowledge of Life okay to

  • The Young and so i think there are all Kinds of?

  • Sexual Issues you know that are generated by It but with the you know Psychology today

  • Is is now it's simply a

  • Magical Matter People come in

  • you Know the psychologists in the United States Deals With Your

  • Present problem Let's not Go into the distant past okay Let's Just deal with our present problem Which are Which obviously we Have Forms of?

  • communication We Need to like fix this and then You'll be fine as a Consequence There's a complete absence of any Kind of Analysis of

  • Your Experiences As a Child

  • With Your Parents so you know with you with your siblings and so on how that might relate to your current

  • Sexual Identity Issues Whether it's transgender or whether it'S homosexuality It is impact you could not Possibly Ask me about any

  • Genesis of homosexuality Today okay Because that is automatically Defined as

  • Homophobic well Excuse me every single it's an open Link game you know the person myself

  • Every gay person i know okay there's some Story there okay Seems to me in childhood not only that There's a strange?

  • Similarity of The

  • Storylines of All of My Friends Who are gay okay there's a Same pattern That had to do with Blurred border Lines in

  • Between i a son and His mother and so on i'm not blaming the mother

  • Okay i'm not blaming the mother at all okay what i see is a Dynamic going on in the bourgeois house or the Nuclear Family?

  • Where you had sometimes a Distant Father okay a Father who was present but it but in that not Really engaged and a mother who

  • Make me the son her companion in some way often the mother has Great

  • Imagination and Flair They had a Shared Thing and i mean i think the idea that homosexuality

  • Has nothing Whatever to do okay with Your Family life is not well it's also completely

  • Well That's another Thing and i got a Lot of trouble in canada for My

  • Opposition to bill C16 Which Was a bill that had to do with

  • Transgender rights and i didn't Really give a Damn about the transgender right issue that had nothing to do with it

  • What bothered me was that there Was an issue of compelled Speech

  • Because You were required by the on Terry Human Rights Commission to use the pronouns that of the person's choice right otherwise then

  • Absolutely or well in that Concern and it's absolutely intolerable

  • you Know i i have said i Said Years ago okay that my book Sexual persona Which Was like a

  • 700 page book i said that is the biggest sex change in history because i okay with My transgender issues all right don't

  • Look to the magnificent

  • Construction of English okay It Was the english language okay that i seized on to gain My

  • Identity and My Power as a person right and Therefore Any

  • Intrusion Into english Someone Tongue Trying to tell me how to use english This Great gift okay to me

  • This is absolutely obscene and Evil any Company to try to

  • Dictate to us how we're going to use this missing It Was an instrument of english yes

  • Absolutely and and that Was for me the breaking point because i believed well and i think that That's?

  • Associated With The idea of the logos in the west you know Because That's a deep

  • Mythological Idea That the logos is the Thing that Brings order Out of chaos through communicative Speech and that That's

  • Tightly Aligned With Your soul and i don't care if you're an atheist or a Believer It Doesn't Matter it's still the right

  • language and That no one has any right Whatsoever

  • Under Any Circumstances to Trespass against That and so but That's okay Because That's law in canada Now and so

  • But okay so now back to your let's see you were making a Point about

  • Yes okay because it's it's interesting to look at These Things from

  • Obviously for multiple

  • Perspectives Which is another Thing the ideologues don't do right Because for them everything Is one cause There's One That's how you can tell When

  • You're Dealing With someone Who's ideologically Possessed is They Make everything attributable to a single cause like Power

  • So but so one of the things That's Happened with the Nuclear Family That'S quite interesting too is That

  • Parents are older and They and They Have Fewer Children

  • So you could imagine that that hothouse environment in some sense is being

  • Exaggerated for a Bunch of Reasons One Is

  • Well Your Child is a Lot more Valuable to you iF you're older and you only Have one or two?

  • Right Because you're Not going to get another chance That's first of all you might Have had some Trouble having the Job to begin With?

  • And you're not gonna get another chance so you've Got all youR Eggs are in one basket so to speak and then of Course

  • Children don't have?

  • The Number of Siblings They used to have and one of The Things That's Really Useful about having siblings is that They Keep you in

  • Your place right They Their Primary socialization agents and i Mean that can Be Brutal

  • and That's Reflected Say in the story of Cain and Abel you know that that internal Household

  • Dynamic with Siblings can Be can Really Become Murderous and That has to be kept under control but i think the the

  • Hothouse Flower person Who's Who's incapable of

  • tolerating Any Jobs or Any or Any testing Any dominance Hierarchy testing of The sort that you Said that men do

  • Part of That's The consequence of being Raised by older Parents Who have Excess Resources

  • Who have no siblings because the child is then of course special and that specialness well there seems to be an inverse

  • relationship Between that specialness

  • That's protected and the person's Robustness and resilience and so and then That's caught into or not caught into That's That's

  • Pandered to by the universities Which insist upon setting up a situation where no one is ever offended by anything

  • Any Of The time and That's something i also can't understand at All Because

  • That's a Huge point you Just made okay because it's the upper Middle Class of the

  • Professional Class Who Postpones having the Children okay Because They go to law School

  • They Go to medical school all right and They and They have the Children after They're Settled okay in a Job okay so?

  • They're the ones okay who have injected This this this?

  • hypersensitive Bourgeois Aidid You Know code into the universities Now my parents

  • Were twenty When they Married in 21 when They had me okay it made my father was

  • You Know went to college on the gi bill getting out of Out of World war. Two so i

  • When i was Born my Father Was still in college and Was sweeping full went to floors and so on i am the product of

  • Young Parents and nature Wants

  • Actually Young Compared Ins right Because Because Pregnancy Is is quicker it's Safer okay and so

  • on and my Parents Had The Energy - You Know They're this useful Energy That

  • can-Do spirit That came Out of World War two and so on i'm talking about then then

  • Not Only other Sibling It Was Born 14 Years Later okay my father this point Was a college professor

  • right so she had completely different parents Than i did so she has Very Excellent Manners and so She's completely different okay right

  • And i have all This Like The Energy of My Parents Were Just Out of Their Teens?

  • But Not Today We Have this situation no and it's considered Heresy to raise this issue okay

  • That you have Have Young Women are told okay There's one future for you you are a future leader okay you must you must move

  • Forward okay four Years of college and The purpose Was a professional Class okay all right so it

  • May Be the women young Women's bodies are signalling okay that They want to be

  • Another's Maybe Maybe There are

  • Signals coming From The Body

  • Right of Maybe Now one Thing this this this this System of Education That Was devised for men okay this being

  • Funneled Along Channel Along its

  • Mechanism

  • Alright so young Women you know Feel Unhappy they don't know why they Feel They have no sense of Identity Yeah if they if they

  • want to marry and Drop Out of college

  • And Have a Baby They Will be treated as traitors to their class What you are future leader What have a Baby Only?

  • Working-Class Women Would Do That okay know What i find Working-Class Women okay in General okay far more

  • Rounded as personalities okay They Express Themselves Forcefully They Have Body language that Takes Up space

  • okay a Man Says something to them on the street They are right back in their face and so on

  • It's the Bourgeois Girls okay who are talked to they're there because They are special okay we have to postpone

  • Actual Life okay from for all These Years You See these these are the girls who are who misjudged

  • The Fraternity parties setting These are the Girls Who like robbing for parental Protection and Hand-Holding on the on the committee?

  • Investigating What went wrong in their day and so on so forth so yet so yes i i think that What you that you have?

  • Located That's Very interesting The idea That These These Young Girls okay who are so

  • sensitive okay in college so unable to handle their sex life are the product of older Parents Because They went through The professional career track

  • Right Yes and They They have not had the experience of the you know

  • competitiveness you Know it will end Up and and teasing of Other Siblings

  • As well also You have a Thing about Young Parents is They don't care as much As older Parents and that Actually Turns Out to

  • Be Better Because

  • What you really want for Your Children is minimum Necessary

  • Intervention right and and the developmental literature is Actually quite clear on this so iF you're at home With your Child

  • What the best role that you can Play Is to be there but not to be

  • Interacting With The Child all The time the child Should Be off Doing Whatever it is the Children do which?

  • Generally is Playing With Other Children right Without It being Mediated also By Screens and

  • Technology Because That's how they formulate Their identity and

  • That's how They Learn to play Joint Games with other People and the parent is supposed to be there as a

  • recourse for The Child

  • When They go out a Little Bit farther Than they can tolerate and They have to come back and Get some security and so but

  • That Isn't That's especially not What happens to single Children Because They're Basically Raised as miniature Adults

  • so When i wonder - Like How much of the

  • Antipathy Towards That These are Dark Musings and i would Say How much of the

  • Antipathy Towards Men That's being Generated By Say college-Age Women Is

  • Deep Repugnance For the role That They've Been designed and a disappointment with the man for who you know like you think of those

  • Carpathian or

  • I

  • Can't remember the culture

  • The Basic Merit Marital Routine Was to ride into the village and grab the

  • Bride and Run Away with her on a horse right it's like the like the motorcycle

  • Gang Member Who rips the two naive Woman Out of Girl out of the bosom of her family

  • There used to be bride stealing It Was quite a bit quite quite Widespread

  • Right Now so i kind of Wonder iF Part of The reason That Modern University Aged Women Aren't so aren't so Angry is Because That

  • Fundamental feminine Role is Actually Being Denied to them and They're They're objecting to that At a Really Really Fundamental Level like a Level of

  • primitive outrage well Because What Happened is the chaos That my Generation

  • Of 1960s Bequeathed Through The Sexual revolution i When i arrived in college 1964

  • The colleges were still acting in local Parentis in Place of a Parent so at my Dormitory

  • Were all Women's Dormitory

  • We Women had to sign in at 11 o'clock at night the men could Run free the entire night so it was my Generation of

  • Women that rose Up and Said give us the same Freedom as men have and the colleges replied no

  • In the World is Dangerous that You could Be raped We Have to protect you against rape and what we Said okay was

  • Give us the Freedom to risk rape okay and so That What That?

  • Today's Women to Understand it's a

  • Freedom That You want it's the same Freedom That give gay men have when they go and they pick Up a Stranger

  • someplace They know it's Dangerous

  • They Know they could end up beaten Up or Killed okay but They find it hat If you want Freedom if you want Equality

  • Okay then you have to start Behaving like a Man Know so what We did is we Gave Freedom

  • to these Young Women for Several Generations

  • But My Generation had Been Raised in a far more Resilient and Robust culture okay we had the strength okay to

  • Know What we wanted and to fight for What we Wanted these Young Women have Been Raised in This protective terribly Protected Ways?

  • So i think in some strange you know the fashion that that all these Demands for Intrusion from these you know

  • stalinist

  • Committees Sexually You Know

  • Investigating Dates and so on it's a Way to reinstitute

  • Tooken a The Rules that My Generation Threw Out the window i saw i think these Young Women are

  • Desperate not Only that but i have spoken Out Very?

  • Strongly in you know in a piece i wrote for time magazine that isn't my most Recent book

  • That the

  • Raising the Drinking age in this country okay from 18 to 21 okay has had a Direct result okay in these in these disasters of

  • Binge Drinking Fraternity parties Because It's a Lot Let constants The Way we could Go out as Freshmen Have a Beer?

  • Sit in a protected adult environment Learn How to discourse with the opposite sex in a safe you know

  • Man

  • Environment right and so on and you and not today okay because because of the stupid role That Young People can't even buy a Drink

  • A you know in a bar Until the 21 we have these the fraternity parties that are like it'S a Caveman era

  • Well of Course in modern Age This is Advantages men okay men want to hook Up men want

  • To have sex?

  • Women don't understand What men want so you know iF Women Women are like Put Out Because They're hoping that maybe the man Will continue

  • To be interested in them okay the man Just Wants experience okay i mean that the Hormones drive Toward turning to me i'm

  • Serious okay that the you know they that the sex drive in men is

  • Intertwined With With Hunted pursuits okay yes yes i Feel absolutely This is What Women don't Understand okay

  • And if Women understood What i understand from My transgender perspective all right with These Women on the streets okay you know i know i'm

  • Obviously you know Madonna you know an Admirer and you know and i

  • Support Pornography and Prostitution

  • so i don't want what i'm about to say It's a seeming conservative Isn't It isn't okay what i'm Saying is the women on the

  • Street Young Women okay who are about who are Jogging okay with no

  • Bra on okay short Shorts and have and Have earbuds in Their Ears okay Just Jogging the long As i saw These Women do not?

  • Understand The nature of the Human Mind they do not Understand the nature of

  • Psychosis okay and This intertwining Them talking about of The hunt the Hunter pursuing Things okay They're

  • Triggering a Hunt Thing Just What you would

  • You You have talked about in terms of the Zebra Herd okay They are triggering the hunt game

  • Impulse okay in

  • Psychotic men okay

  • There Goes a Very appetizing and and and totally Oblivious

  • Animal okay Bouncing Along Here and we're in a Period Now where

  • Psychosis is not understood at all okay Young Women have had no exposure to

  • Movies Like Psycho okay well

  • you Know the Kind of The Rapists Serial Murderer Things so on the Kind of strange

  • Dynamic That has to do with It with an assault on the only a mother in Michael you know in in the in the mind

  • Of a Psychotic i think this is an incredible naivete these Young Women are emerging and going to college and in in this like incredible

  • Dye Nation environment of You know a

  • Sector Orgy Astok Sexual Experience in fraternity Houses

  • They're completely unprepared for It right and and so you're getting all This outrage so feminist Rhetoric has gotten more and more

  • reme and its portrayal of men as Evil but in fact ok What we Have is a caste you Say it's a chaos in the

  • Sexual Realm The Girls Have Not Been told anything real i Mean in terms of Biological

  • Substrate of Sexual no Way There's Full of lies about What constitutes consent to

  • become something That's essentially Portrayed

  • linguistically As a Sequence of progressive

  • Contracts Which You know is it's well i think you know i've thought for a While that we're living in the delusional

  • Fantasy of a Naive

  • Thirteen Year old Girl Thoughts Basically Sums Up our culture and i look at all these Sexual Rules that permeate the the the

  • Academia and i think two Things the first Thing i think is well i?

  • Know Because i was an Alcohol Researcher for a long time and you know that 50%

  • Of Violent Crimes are directly attributable to alcohol so if you're murdered There's about a 50% chance That you're drunk and

  • About a 50% chance that the person who Kills you is drunk and

  • Alcohol Is the only drug That we Know that Actually amplifies Aggression It Does that in laboratory situations Plus It's a Great

  • Disinhibitor Right So What Alcohol Does is it it Doesn't make You oblivious to the future

  • Consequences of Your action Because if you ask someone Who's drunk about the consequences of something Stupid They can tell you what the consequences are

  • but It Makes you not care and It Does that Because it's technically an Exile itta click like Barbiturates or like

  • Benzodiazepines and It also Has an Activating

  • Property for Many People Who drink so it's it's a stimulant and A-- and an Anxiety Attack at The same time and

  • a Very very potent it's very potent for both of them and you know we put Young People together and

  • Douse them in Alcohol right at The binge Drinking Level and Then Which also interferes with Memory consolidation

  • Which of course Makes Things Much more complex and then we're Surprised When there are Sexual Misadventures and you know and then it's also attributed

  • Almost Purely to the predatory element That's That's part and parcel of Masculinity but a

  • Tremendous Amount of That Is also Naivety and Stupidity you know Because we Expect Like

  • 80 18 year old Guys especially The Ones That Aren't That Haven't Been Successful with Girls Which is like 85% of them Because the

  • Successful men are a Very small percentage of men

  • The 85% who haven't Been Successful with men or with Women They don't know What the hell they're doing at All

  • right and Part of The reason They're getting Drunk is to

  • Garner Up enough Courage to actually make in Advance

  • You Know and Because i think another Thing That Women don't understand especially With Regards to young men is Just Exactly how petrifying

  • attractive Woman Who's of Say Somewhat Higher status Actually is to a young guy and there's Lots of Guys That write me

  • Constantly and People That I've Worked with that are so terrified of Women They can't even talk to them it's very Very common

  • Well you know i take a Very

  • Firm Position Which is that i

  • Want college Administration's to stay Totally Out of the social Lives of The students right If a Crime is committed

  • It Should Be reported to the police i've Been writing That for 25 25 Years Now all right but but it's not the business of

  • Any College

  • Administration to take Any notice okay of What to students Say to each Other Say to each Other as Well As do With each Other

  • okay i want it totally stopped is

  • Fascism of the war yeah i agree why are you sitting it's i think it's

  • Fascism of The worst Kind Because it's an it's a New Kind of fascism you know it's

  • It's partly Generated By Legislation so they like The title nine man memo that Was written in

  • 2011 i Recently Got a Copy of That Goddamn Thing That Was One polluting Bit of Legislation That Was that memo

  • Basically Told Universities that Unless They set Up a parallel Court System They were going to be Denied Federal Funding It is absolutely unbelievable

  • No, no

  • There is no authentic Campus leftism I'm sorry It's a Fraud okay i mean you think the faculty Should Be fighting the administration's

  • Federal

  • Regulation of You Know how we're Supposed

  • To behave on campus well how can you be so how can you be so naive and foolish to think that taking an

  • Organization Like The University Which already has Plenty to do and

  • Forcing It to become a Pseudo Legal System That

  • Parallels The Legal System

  • Could Possibly Be anything But Utterly Catastrophic It would Mean You have to know absolutely nothing about the legal system and about the

  • Tremendous Period of Evolution That Produced

  • What's Actually a Stellar system and an

  • Adversarial System That Protects The Rights of The Accused and of the end of the victim and to replace That with an ad-hoc

  • Bureaucracy That Has Pretty Much

  • Essentially The same degree of Power as The court System with absolutely none of the training and none of the Guarantees

  • Your records They were taking that piece that i wrote about date rape It Was in January 1991

  • Newsday Got But There's the most controversial Thing i ever wrote in my entire career i attacked the entire thing and

  • Demanded The college Just stand back and Get Out of the social Eyes of The students so on and People the up

  • Reaction People Try to occult They called the president of the My University Try to get me fired

  • You can't believe hysteria okay i can believe

  • AnyThing That Says to women okay that They Should be

  • responsible For Their own Choices is Regarded as

  • Reactionary are They Kidding me okay this is such a Betrayal of Authentic feminism in my view

  • Well it's the ultimate betrayal of Authentic feminism Because it's it it's an

  • Invitation of All The Things that you might Be paranoid about With Regards to the patriarchy back into your life right it's an

  • Insistence That The most intrusive part of the tyrannical King come and Take control Over the most intimate details of Your life

  • Incredible

  • And The The assumption is that That's going to make Your life better Rather Than worse right

  • Not to mention this idea of You Know That's the stages of verbal consent as if as if Your

  • Impulses Based in the Body have anything to do with words

  • And so on i mean That's the Whole point is you do a lot sex okay it's to abandon

  • okay that you know that They're part of the Brain That's so that You know

  • Inin trammeled With Words i Mean Yeah there's you see these two actually a Marker of Lack of social Ability

  • To have to do that Because IF you're sophisticated it's not like iF you're dancing with someone it's not like you call out the moves

  • Right If You have to do that Well then Your your your your more Worse Than the Neophyte right an Awkward

  • Neophyte and Anybody with Any sense Should Get The hell away from you and so If you're reduced to the point where you

  • Have to Verbally negotiate every element of intimate interaction then What a downer That

  • yes but What i what an

  • Unbelievably What Would You call It naive in Pathological view of the manner in Which Human Beings interact

  • There's no sophistication in that well what i'm worried about also in this age of social media

  • I've noticed as a teacher in the classroom

  • That The Young People are so used to communicating Now by cellphone okay by iPhone

  • That's They're Losing Body language and Facial

  • Expressions okay Which i think is going to compound the problem

  • With with these dating

  • encounters okay Because the ability to Read the Human face

  • Into into to Read Little Tiny

  • Inflections of Emotion Well i think My Generation Got That from Looking at Great Foreign Films With her with Their long

  • tanks okay so you have Jean Marais and

  • okay in like in potential romantic encounters and You could You see the tiniest little little inflections all Right

  • That That Signal communication or Sexual readiness or

  • Irony or skepticism or distance or Whatever okay but the inability to read the

  • Other People's Intentions okay that i think this is going to be a disaster i i Just noticed That

  • How year by Year okay the students are becoming much more Flat Affect

  • okay and They Themselves complain That They'll Sit in the same Room with someone

  • and be texting to each Other

  • Yeah Well There's a There's a piece Of evidence to that supports that to some degree so?

  • Women with Brothers are less Likely to Get raped ha and the reason for that is that They've Learned That

  • Nonverbal Language Deeply Right and They can They can they can spot the only that i

  • Have noticed okay in My into my career okay that That Women who have many Brothers They are

  • Very Good okay as

  • Administrators and As Businesspeople okay all right Because They don't Take men

  • Seriously okay They regard They They think they Saw Their brothers They think their brothers are Jokes okay but they know how to control men

  • okay

  • While It wall-e's to like men okay They admired men right so like This is something that i have seen You know repeatedly Yeah well

  • So that Would Be also reflective you have the problem of Fewer and Fewer Siblings yes That's right okay yeah yeah?

  • I've noticed in publishing okay there's this that the

  • There was the Women who have this is the Job of publicists okay and rise to the top as manager of publicity okay Their

  • Ability to take Charge of men and and and their humor in men they like that and

  • They have Great relationships with men okay Because they don't

  • Have the sense of resentment and

  • Worry and Anxiety you Know and so They don't see men as aggressors okay right and i think it's another Thing too is that as

  • feminism

  • You Know moved into its present it's a System of ideology okay it has tended to

  • a denigrate Motherhood okay as a lesser order of Human Experience and

  • and to enshrine of Course abortion Now i am a Hundred Percent of abortion Rights

  • you Know i belong to planned Parenthood for Years Until i Finally Rejected It As a

  • Branch Of The democratic Party My own Party and so on but but as

  • Motherhood became Excluded as as feminism Became Obsessed okay with the professional Woman okay i feel that the

  • Lessons of That mothers Learn Have Been lost okay yeah to to

  • feminism and Which is okay that if they if They're the mothers who bear boy Children okay

  • Understand The fragility of men the fragility of Boys They Understand It They don't They don't see

  • men and Boys as a Menace They understand That The greater strength of Women okay so there's this tenderness you know and connectedness

  • Between The between the mother and the boy child okay when motherhood is part of The experience okay of

  • Women who are discussing gender so what We Have today is that This Does gender

  • Ideology Has Risen Up on

  • Campuses where we're all none of the none of the Girls know the students are married none of Them have had Children okay and you?

  • Have you have Women some of Whom have had Children but a Lot of They're Lesbians or like or like?

  • Like professional Women and so on so this this the Whole tenderness and Forgiving Forgiving This okay and?

  • Encouragement that Women do to

  • Two Boys okay the fragility They don't Understand This

  • Hypersensitivity of Boys is not understood okay Instead Boys are seen as somehow now i'm more privileged okay and somehow you know in

  • Their Their Their Energy Level Is

  • Interpreted as Aggression okay potential Violence and so on okay right so i think that That

  • That What we Would do the Better okay iF we Would have i have proposed okay that colleges Should?

  • Allow When the moment a Woman is

  • Entered okay she has interested at college for life okay and that she that she should be free to

  • leave

  • Okay to have babies When she would her body Wants That babies When it's Healthy to have them okay and then Return Have Haven't had?

  • Their occasional Course so can Build Up credits and fathers i Mean You might Be Able to do it as Well and so on

  • To get married Women and Women With Children into the classroom the moment that happens

  • It's happened after World War two okay we've had you had a Lot of Married you Guys in the classroom okay and so

  • I'm not yet That many Women the

  • Experience Of a Married person with a Family okay talking about gender But most of the Gender Stuff Will Be Laughed out of the Room

  • okay if you had a real mother in there who had Experience in childbirth and

  • Head Rate and It Was raising Boys and so on well i think That's That's also a You Know something That

  • Has Led to this This This incredible art you Know artificiality and and hysteria okay feminist Rhetoric

  • There's an There's another strange Element to that Which iS that on the one hand the The radical feminist Types That?

  • Neo-Marxist Post Modernists are are Very Much Opposed to the patriarchy Let's Say and That's that uni-Dimensional

  • Ideological

  • Representation

  • Perhaps The Word could be Applied to a Republican Rome and That's It okay well i mean maybe It could Be Applied

  • Usefully to Certain Kinds of Tyranny but not to a society That's Actually Functional Victorian England

  • Arguably okay but Other Than that it to use the word patriarchy in that in a Slapdash Way so amateurish

  • Actually You Know Just Shows People Know nothing about History

  • Whatever have You ever Read have done no reading so and so What Confuses me about?

  • Is that despite the fact that the patriarchy is viewed as this

  • essentially Evil Entity and That That's associated with The masculine energy That Built This oppressive structure the

  • Antithesis of That Which Would Actually be

  • Femininity as far As i can Tell Which is Tightly associated with care and with Child-rearing Is also

  • Denigrated so it's like the only proper rule for Women to adopt is a

  • Patriarchal Rule despite The fact that the patriarchy is something That's entirely Corrupt so the

  • Hypothesis Seems to be that the patriarchy would be Just fine if Women Ran It so

  • no changes it's Just that It Would Just be a transformation of Leadership and somehow that Would That Would

  • Rectify The Fundamental problem even Though it's hypothetically Supposed to be structural okay so i'm gonna close with something so

  • you Know

  • There are Elements in My Character That are optimistic you know i've

  • Looked For Example i worked for a U.N. committee and on the relationship between economic

  • Development and sustainability and i found out a Variety of Things That were very optimistic like the fact That

  • you Know the U.N. set out

  • To have Poverty Between 2000 and 2015 worldwide and Actually Hit that By about?

  • 2010 right so we're in that period of the fastest transformation of The bottom strata of the World's population into something approximating

  • Middle Class That's ever occurred and There's all These Great Technological innovations on the horizon and and It Looks to me like Things could Go

  • Extraordinarily Well If we Were Careful but I'm not Optimistic and

  • Maybe That'S me i'm pessimistic because i also see that There's five or six Things happening all of Which

  • Appear at the level of

  • Catastrophe that are all happening at The same time and so One of The things that i'd like to ask you is like

  • What do you see happening in the next 10 Years

  • In in the universities or in culture at large and i Mean You Just Put Forward a proposal?

  • For The Universities for The treatment of Women Which i think is a Very interesting

  • One Because Women do have a different Timeframe Than men but like What the hell is the proper way Forward i've Been

  • Encouraging Young men to tell the truth and to take responsibility and There's a Huge Market for that message but but i'm not

  • Convinced By Any Stretch of the imagination that it's enough

  • What like when you look Forward You Try to be optimistic What the hell do you see

  • Well and in the largest you know scale

  • I'm concerned about the future

  • Western culture Because

  • As a Student of History It Looks, too much to me like ancient Rome okay which became Over Expanded

  • Which became a It Was at The Mercy of a Bureaucratic

  • Creep okay and

  • and in the and roman identity eventually

  • Got Blurred okay in its incorporation of so Many different cultures Which i first seems Like a Healthy Kind of

  • multiculturalism But Eventually Over Expand and Simply Collapse of Its own Way but iii

  • So i am concerned about the you know whether western culture is in a rapid decline i think It Would Be Very

  • Easy Because We Are you know so interconnected and so Over complex Very easy you know to bring it to

  • Ruin It Would Only Take One Major Natural disaster you know to do that

  • But The Universities Themselves i Mean i think People are all of a Sudden in the united States much more

  • attentive to issues of political Correctness

  • Because of The the riots At Berkeley Which was the you know Which was the capital of free speech i mean i don't Mean the the

  • Free speech movement Happened in the spring?

  • before i entered college in 1964 It so one of the Great principles and

  • Inspirational Stories of My entire Life Mario Savio is you know you know

  • Assertion of The of The Supremacy of you know free thought and free speech these okay and i

  • so i think that Perhaps

  • You Know we might Just Have Turned a corner and but it's gonna take a Very Very long time for the university to be Reformed

  • I feel that the cafeteria menu okay of the university curriculum has to be abandoned we Must return to

  • Historical

  • Courses That Begin in the earliest period in the stone age

  • In Antiquity in order to give perspective you know to to our to our present to an analysis of a person a culture i want

  • 50 50 to 75 percent of college Administrators Fired okay and the Money Be Transferred over okay to

  • to to faculty into libraries into into instruction okay i i think that you know the obviously the

  • Way Things are being People are being a trained Right Now including at The public School Level okay

  • Is i think that writing the public School Level has gone to hell, when

  • my mother came you know came

  • To united States The age of six they Would the old public School System Was still Very strict and therefore if she had some excellent

  • Education You Know it's a and you know didn't Got all a'S and in her in her and even though she

  • Started out Not speaking english Spoke without an accent etc okay so

  • Today This This Kind of Feel-good The public school Education Which is Which is a form of ideology and

  • Indoctrination Right Now it'S all about no bullying okay and not about you not even seriously about no bullying Yes i

  • Can Tell in My own Students i Mean i've Been teaching for 46 Years so i can tell this slow Degradation

  • Of Public School Education Get Today to the point now that the students have absolutely no sense of World Geography

  • of World History okay they know absolutely don't Know anything about Wars okay

  • and The Reality The

  • Barbaric Reality of Most of Human History and What It Whatever defense That's Triggering yes right What a fantastic

  • culture we live in and so you know it didn't identity Politics itself has Just got to stop i mean It Was important once okay

  • Again i i was a Rebel Against The the wasp you know

  • Hegemony okay White anglo-Saxon protestant hegemony in American culture it Was It Was suffocating iii Was raised in the 1950s

  • When Wasps Controlled

  • Corporations and and and Education and Politics and so on it so identity Politics Was Necessary once okay to it we

  • Asserted getting gay Rights okay with it with stonewall rebellion Of 1969 We assert we

  • Asserted okay the Women's rights with ii with the with the rebirth of Second wave feminism in the late 1960s okay but This Endless okay

  • preoccupation with with a

  • Fragmented Identity We Must Return to be authentic Nineteen Sixties Vision Which is about identity coming from consciousness Which

  • Transcends Gender Which

  • Transcends all These divisions of Race okay and the ethnicity okay consciousness itself okay right

  • There's no sense of That Any longer and That's What the 1960s sought well i see if that is a complete abandonment of personal responsibility

  • Because That Like That

  • Consciousness i think

  • symbolically and i Got a Lot of This from Jung and also from Eric Neumann i Mean That's the Great logos of the west right

  • That's the Transcendent principle Which is is

  • Respect For the Primacy of

  • Individual Consciousness and What Goes Along with that primarily isn't individual Rights although That's built into it i mean That's the reason we have?

  • Individual Rights Is for respect for that but the

  • responsibility That Comes Along With being an individual Instead of The member of some Group especially a Victimized Group Which is like

  • sure i wrote an article with One of My Students Who had toured the mass grave sites in in the former

  • Yugoslavia You Know What Haven't Been Exposed to that sort of Thing and one of The things that our

  • research indicated Was that The best predictor of Genocide is

  • victimization on the part of the Group That

  • Produces The Genocide right a sense of an accelerated sense of victimization and then it's well We Get them before They Get us

  • So and Everyone's being taught Now that They're a victim and then no one Seems

  • To have Any sense That You Know That's part of The essential tragedy of Being That life is suffering and that and That?

  • and That and and that The World rests on a Foundation of Suffering it's nothing to take personally and something to take

  • responsibility for Instead of Blaming and and resentment and all of The Things that Have polluted our

  • Universities and Our culture well and There also Was the abandonment okay of the you know of the canon okay People you know

  • Asserted That The Canon Was the product of bias and again of You know of

  • a you know

  • provincial Elitism and so on but in in point of fact as a Student of History of The arts okay i can i can

  • assure People That the Canon okay oh the overwhelmingly so is is the result of What artists have determined okay we

  • Say a Work is important as canonical Because

  • Artists Following It okay we're Influenced by It we Have This like a Beautiful Cascading tradition of

  • Influence Alright So that That's another but not another part of the philistine ism okay of

  • Current Education to you know to believe That there are these external

  • Reasons okay for for That Why a Work last Why a Work you know

  • 500 Years Ago or a Thousand Years Ago has global relevance

  • relevance As iF it'S some sort of Political

  • Conspiracy That's Based on power as if anybody could Even manage that no matter how nefarious they were

  • but Also

  • We in the 60s even Hadn't had the idea okay then there Was like This Human Human Sensibility like That Transcendent?

  • Individual if The Nation's and and so on right and that and That

  • There was This Like Rubric for Cosmic consciousness okay and this This

  • Sense of the universe as a Whole and Just to see the Human being in relationship to great eternal

  • Principles of life into Death Mortality and so on Whereas you know Marxism is blind

  • Marxism Is Very Narrow All It sees Is a

  • Society okay It sees nothing Beyond Society It Doesn't Seem nature okay it's absolutely Mad

  • How you can Have a System being taught okay in universities right Which It which thinks that This tiny Thing of

  • Society okay compared to the Enormity and Beauty of nature okay should take all of our

  • All of our you know absorb all of Our energy and Attention so i mean i Just think that There's like a Parochialism and

  • provincialism

  • you Know it

  • Now a Kind of you know

  • Systematized Elitism in our Current Education has Got to be Rooted Out and we i want

  • To return to basics great Simplicity side all these Faculty members teaching Their little Tiny Courses that have to has to do with Their own?

  • Specialty That's Got to stop okay People People can Even pursue whatever They want in their private research as Scholars okay Certainly That's Necessary

  • But They must teach in the core curriculum

  • and and and

  • People Must decide What is Crucial for an educated person to know i do want a multicultural i do want a Global Curriculum i want

  • I what all the cultures taught okay right This is not the answer Martin Marxism this neo Marxism in the universities okay is

  • Simply It's lazy It's a lazy Way to assert

  • multiculturalism Without Actually Doing The research of The Study of Other cultures

  • Okay all right That's a Good one to close one we Agreed on everything?

  • yes i know it oh Great

I've really been trying to understand the underlying psychology of postmodernism and its relationship with neo-Marxism,

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