collecting murderabilia. 3

Here's some of Charles Manson's artwork. 4

A Richard Ramirez piece that I just got. 5

He was known as the night stalker. 6

This one has a personalized note on the back from Gacy. 7

Items once belonging to famous murderers 8

are sold on various websites. 9

I was so enraged by the entire proposition 10

that this could even go on 11

that it's almost hard to describe. 12

And I'm famous. 13

Mark Klaas's 12 years old daughter, 14

Polly Klaas is gone. 15

But Richard Allen Davis, her killer, 16

used to make money off of his crime. 17

And Mr. Davis, when you get to where you're going, 18

say hello to Hitler, say hello to Dahmer, 19

and say hello to Bundy. 20

Klaas learned that photos of Davis 21

in the prison yard at San Quentin 22

were being sold online, 23

as well as drawings he made from death row. 24

I was completely outraged 25

that he would profiteer off of my misery 26

and my daughter's demise. 27

(eerie music) 28

I was of the opinion that 29

you just shouldn't be able to rob, rape and murder 30

then turn around and make a buck off of it. 31

Andy Kahan is a victims' advocate 32

who told Klaas about Davis' photos for sale. 33

I came up with a cool, crafty name 34

for this wacky new business called murderabilia. 35

One collector looks at this in a different way. 36

So those are Charles Manson's sweatpants. 37

Ryan Graveface shows us around 38

his Savannah, Georgie warehouse of murderabilia. 39

I've got multiple paintings of Elvis 40

by John Wayne Gacy. 41

He collects but doesn't sell. 42

So that's probably why victims' families 43

have never approached me 44

and I would have a really good conversation with them 45

if they ever did, 46

just for having the stuff. 47

This is the world famous Popo the Clown painting. 48

He says he has many paintings 49

by John Wayne Gacy. 50

This whole case is just filled with Gacy stuff. 51

Gacy murdered, raped and tortured 52

at least 33 boys, mostly in his small Illinois community 53

where he was known for dressing up as a clown 54

to entertain folks at church events and birthday parties. 55

I just enjoy collecting it. 56

It's not cerebral. 57

I'm not thinking of it in a profound way. 58

We're all just weirdo collectors. 59

But life is so freaking boring. 60

Andy Kahan collects murderabilia too 61

but as a victims' advocate. 62

This is an actual piece of the shirt 63

of John Wayne Gacy, better known as the killer clown. 64

This is actually prison issued socks 65

of a California serial killer named Lawrence Bittaker. 66

This is a piece of Charles Manson's hair. 67

Manson generally sells his hair 68

in a form of a swastika. 69

What I do with these is when I go and I do lectures 70

and when I do conferences, 71

all this stuff accompanies me in a duffel bag 72

and I just show people the industry actually does exist. 73

They're usually shocked, they're stunned, 74

they're flabbergasted that this exists. 75

Most of them have no idea that this is a thriving industry. 76

Right here is actual artwork from the happy face killer, 77

better known as Keith Jesperson right here 78

and as you can see, some of the artwork that Jesperson 79

certainly you can see right here, the detail of the artwork. 80

It is a business for profit 81

and it bottom line is blood money. 82

Kahan has helped some states pass laws 83

to stop the sale of murderabilia. 84

California and Texas are two of eight states 85

he says that have passed notoriety for profit laws, 86

meaning it's illegal for convicted criminals 87

to make money from selling tangible goods 88

through third party dealers. 89

For Mark Klaas, anything to get killers' items 90

off the market. 91

To have these wounds reopened 92

time and time and time again 93

when somebody is somehow making money 94

off of the hideous crime they committed against 95

my daughter or somebody else's daughter 96

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