JERRY: It's a chair.

One of the most famous chairs you'll ever see.

Oh, really?

JERRY: Abraham Lincoln sat on it while he

was in the White House.

OK.

I'm sure he sat in a lot of chairs.

JERRY: It comes from a set of chairs that was in the White

House while he was president.

I'm asking $2,000 for the chair, that's

the lowest amount of money and I'm

willing to take for the chair.

MAN: That is really neat.

This was in the White House?

JERRY: It was in the formal dining room.

MAN: OK.

That's pretty interesting.

I mean, you don't think about it now,

but the furniture was a big deal back then.

It was really, really expensive.

JERRY: It was.

MAN: The things people--

you know, well off people did-- they spent money on furniture

and silverware and luxury items around the house

because there was no TV at night,

so people entertained every night.

So those things were very important.

JERRY: Right.

MAN: Presidential memorabilia sells for good money.

But Abraham Lincoln, that's some money.

So if we can actually tie this chair to Abraham Lincoln,

there is value here--

serious value.

You've got documentation for this?

JERRY: Yes, sir. MAN: What do you have?

JERRY: One letter is from the White House telling

the individuals that they didn't want

the chairs there because they had too much furniture.

But then I have the original newspaper clipping where

Robert Todd Lincoln donated them to a girls'

school up in Vermont.

MAN: OK.

Do you have any other proof that it's his or--

No.

MAN: OK.

How much were were you looking to get out of it?

$2,000.

MAN: $2,000?

Doesn't sound out of the realm of possibility.

But my problem is your paperwork.

Do you mind if I call someone to take a look at them?

He runs the Clark County Museum system here.

He's an amazing historian.

And he could probably tell me everything about them.

JERRY: I have no problem with that.

I'm welcoming the fact for somebody

to come and look at the chair.

Any expert that they want to bring in, bring them on.

MAN: I really want this to be Abraham Lincoln's chair,

but I'm a little concerned over his paperwork.

So I called him my friend Mark to look at this thing.

There's a possibility that Abraham Lincoln's

butt touched this thing.

[laughter]

MARK: There are high points in every chair's life, I guess.

When you're dealing with presidents

of the United States, nobody has a bigger

name than Abraham Lincoln.

Anything related to Abraham Lincoln is hugely popular.

So do you have any paperwork that goes along with this?

JERRY: Yes.

I have this over here.

Let's take a look here.

Oh, OK.

That's a well-known photograph.

This is one of Matthew Brady's photographs of Lincoln.

It shows this decorative element right here on the side.

And so when you look at this, you see this decorative element

is not the same as this one.

So obviously, this chair isn't this chair.

Now, the interesting thing is the chair

that's in this photo is one that Matthew Brady owned,

not one that Lincoln owned.

Had this been a match to this, it

would have been highly unlikely it was ever in the White House.

Now, I tried to pull up every interior either drawing

or photograph from the Lincoln period that I can find

and I didn't find this chair in any of them.

What I couldn't find is any photographic proof

or drawing proof.

As I read this, we don't have anything from Lincoln

or from the White House.

The time period is right on the chairs,

but there's not enough for me to say that these are ones that

were used in the White House.

- Thanks. - Sorry about that.

Thanks, man.

And thank you, and very interesting to see.

Thanks a lot. - Thank you.

Appreciate it.

MARK: You need to have something that actually shows

ownership by Abraham Lincoln.

It's not going to be easy.

But if he can do that, he's got a really wonderful piece.

MAN: Well, if I buy something off a customer,

I got to resell it.

When I resell it, it's got to be beyond a reasonable doubt what

I'm selling is what I'm selling.

It's just the way I do business.

But this point, I can't make you an offer.

So thanks for coming in, but I just can't do it.

Thanks for looking at it.

No problem.

JERRY: You expect these things.

Everything can't be what you want it to be.

But I believe I brought in enough evidence

here to prove that this chair is from the White House.