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Well, I've just spent the last day or so benchmarking the brand new GTX 16 50 from video card.

That, if you look at other reviews, really is kind of confusing because it's it's like, Why doesn't even exist?

We're gonna I mean, I don't know where to start with this one in video is great at many things.

It's great at building high end graphics cards at a price premium, but spoiler alert.

It's also great at building mediocre cards in the low end to mid range and also a price premium.

So here's the thing.

When I started benchmark in the 16 50 I was a little upset like everyone else because we received the cards from the baby's about a week, week and 1/2 in advance.

And that's one of the things we're like.

Typically, we get them in advance because we get advanced drivers.

Which is why I was kind of confused as to why they withheld drivers from press reviewers until retail launch.

So it's kind of like Why do we have cards early if they're basically paperweight, so we couldn't do anything with them.

So I actually went to Twitter, and I said, Well, in video withheld drivers, which usually means they're hiding something in this case, having now reviewed the 10 50 the 5 70 in the 16 50 compared to of course, is 16 60 the other cards that were tested over the years.

There's more than one thing they're hiding.

As far as I'm concerned now, before we can actually talk about this car, do you have to see the performance so that year on the same page as I am and caught up as to where these cards sort of sort of stack up?

So let's just go ahead and rock outs with your charts out.

I tested this E v g a G T X 16 50 after starting to test with R.

M s I 16 50.

Now both of these cards are above reference, and video doesn't actually have a reference or Founders Edition 16 50.

Nor do they have a reference 16 60 or 16.

60 T I.

The reference cards start for the Founder's cards.

Start at 2060.

Enough because, of course, Artie Exes, they're you know they're Golden Child, and that's the only one they truly care about.

And I think that shows entirely on this line up.

Both of these cards are also using supplemental Cexp in power, which means that these are not as low as the performance that they could possibly be.

These are slightly better, slightly factory over clocked and over clock Kable graphics cards Not relying just on the PC I express power slot or the 12 volt that come to the power of Easy a slot, which is about 75 watts.

So these are able to draw significantly more if you start over, clocked them on our test.

I did not over clock him adult.

These were out of the box settings.

No power curve tweak, no fan curve tweak.

Nothing like that.

So in terms of temperatures, it's important to note that these cards are, as you'd expect, extremely cool running at like high fifties.

So low sixties under their stuff.

Fan curves.

No throttling whatsoever.

They both sat right around 1952 1935 because GP boost 4.0, it went significantly higher than the clocks that were advertised.

So that's how GPS works.

We talked about it every time Bob of Law broken record.

But it's hard to say because people still don't seem to understand that.

So I went ahead and went back and tested our 10 50.

Now the only 10 fifties I have are the M s.

I very basic, as you can see, cards with no power plugs, no multiple fans or anything like that.

And this card is actually still available right now on the market.

Now, the performance gap that I saw between 16 50 in the 16 60 was so significant.

Then I went ahead and went back and tested my Rx 5 70 Now, at the risk of sounding like a MD had anything to do with us, including the Rx 5 70 our benchmarks, that is 100% untrue because I saw that other people are testing with the 57 and the reason for that is because the 5 70 is cheaper.

That is 16 50 now, although the radion team, the marketing team, is really pushing the 5 70 right now.

That's because this is the card that is closest in price to the 16 50 which is the one that makes the most sense to compare if we want to do both sides of the fence.

That's why we included the Rx 5 70 So no conspiracy theories about a MD saying Hey, include our card.

Here's a Here's a $20 bill under the table.

Know that none of that happened whatsoever.

Well, I had a couple zeros, maybe 5 70 That we included, though, was the Red Devil from power color.

This is, of course, a custom PCB with an ape in power and triple fan and super long and heat pipes and all that, and someone might go well, jade, that's not fair.

It's extremely fair because this card is still cheaper than the 16 50 decimating it in pretty much every single test that we didn't I say pretty much it did.

It did decimate the 16 50 every test and slid right in between the 16 50 in the 16 60 for cheaper than the 16 50.

It's a four gigabyte card on, although it doesn't have what some might say.

It's some of the features of the NVIDIA card like it doesn't have Geesink well, So what has free sinking?

There are more free sink panels for cheaper on the market.

So you're still getting adaptive sink at the lesser price than the 16 fifties you see online all the time.

Well, in video, well, they will the price come down with a price come down.

You never see a price adjustment down at the lower end.

They never do.

They never adjust pricing.

But if I bought a 5 70 at full retail, which was roughly 200 maybe 2 19 something like that for the four gig card.

This is a four gig, and now it's available for 1 39 The prices always slide.

Everyone knows the price is going to slide.

So if you early adopt radio and you definitely pay full price and then you can get screwed later because it comes down in price quite a bit.

So am D does indeed slide the price down.

And they definitely did that with this launch.

And if you bought one of these a few months ago, my kind of sting, because you could have gotten it for cheaper than what you're paying right now.

The other thing, that is really disappointing about the 16.

50.

And I mentioned the reason why they didn't show us these drivers ahead of time is because of videos Probably hiding something.

Well, yeah, they're hiding the fact that is being decimated by the mid range and low end radio cards.

I mean, it's sad.

I started comparing the numbers and sorting them by order.

And this card, the 16 50 slid right in and around the 3 80 Ex margin or the area which is over three, almost four years old.

That's pre Polaris.

And this card wasn't even able to keep up with the 5 70 Polaris again in a cheaper price point.

Now, the reason why you didn't see the M s I on our charts is because when I first started my testing, I started getting black screen flickering all over the place and I went to us.

We got a bad card.

Unfortunately, I couldn't let them know prior to launch because we don't have drivers for me to test it.

And they also told me in the email both both IV e j and M.

S.

I obviously we're like, Hey, we don't have drivers.

And it would be sending those where they sent them was their own download website for everyone to grab on launch day.

So I couldn't say, Hey, is this What's wrong with your card that I hooked up the VJ card and noticed the same blacks green flickering issue when testing times by it was isolated two times by didn't experience it in any of my other tests, including DX 12 test like shot of the Tomb Raider and anywhere else.

I turned on the X 12 to see if the problem persisted.

It was isolated two times by.

So already there is.

There's some issues happening with this card on that particular test, So that's why times by was omitted from our test entirely.

They got a big fat fail in that particular test.

So this brings us onto the discussion regarding the card's value.

There really isn't.

There was really no value with this card.

As far as I'm concerned, it's got 100 and $50 m S r p.

You could get this red devil card for I believe it was 100 29 1 13 available right now on new egg, $170 or $60 for this car.

So this card is $20 cheaper than this one, and significantly faster upto like 20% faster in our tests.

I want to see what the performance value is like.

It's like that.

That's what it's like if we want to make a chart out of these two cards.

There you go.

Okay, but J touring touring is so good, blah, blah, blah.

What about the video encoded were touring?

It's amazing if you want to O.

B s and use one of these cards is an encoder.

That's the other thing in videos hiding.

It's using the Volta encoder.

They didn't even include the touring encoder with their touring architecture.

On this, I think it's a stat boosting card.

They can say, Look at how many touring cards we have out in the wild, hoping that people won't look at the radion offering at the lower price point.

Thinking that well in videos just faster than a MD, well, that's true.

Once you start going above, the $500 price point in video is faster.

But they also have a terrible value, extremely terrible value at this price point.

So I kind of feel bad for the babies.

If you want the truth, the EIB's are forced to make these cards.

That's the agreement.

They are the manufacturers for these lower and tears and the higher in tears.

Of course, they can't say, you know, in video we're not gonna make a 16 50.

You can't do that.

It's in their contract in their agreement that they have to make the cards so they do the best they can with coming with these custom designs, these power plugs and all of that.

And unfortunately, it wasn't nearly enough.

Guys, at the end of the day, this card shouldn't exist.

And I swear to God, if in case if in video makes a 16 50 t, I'm gonna lose my shot, I swear to God, I'm gonna lose my if they make a 16 50 th.

So if we look at the product stacked from a video, it's 16.

50 16.

60 16 60 t I 2060 27 28 28 e T I.

Any tighten our t X?

So here's my official conclusion.

It doesn't need to exist.

It shouldn't exist.

It's in videos completely out of touch.

Low end in mid range market where the charging a premium for nothing.

There's no value to it whatsoever.

For the first time in a long time, we can say in video, Welcome to two years ago for your competitors.

Oh, and if you guys bought a 16 50 because their reviews weren't available to tell you, Well, you got duped.

You got duped by the Green Machine, and, uh, well, I would probably use that return policy, but apparently aimed.