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  • Welcome to The Daily Show.

  • Uh, it's truly an honor for me

  • because you are one of my favorite actors

  • that I've ever had the pleasure of watching.

  • -Oh, my God. Thank you. -Genuinely you are.

  • And, uh, I'm excited to see you in telling this story, as well,

  • because you're telling the tale of an amazing black woman

  • -who overcame the odds... -Mm-hmm.

  • ...to create an empire that no one thought was possible--

  • -C.J. Walker, Madam C.J. Walker. -Yeah.

  • Tell me about the story and why you chose to create it.

  • Well, Madam C.J., uh, was a standard bearer in my home.

  • My mom used her as an example, uh, for me and my siblings,

  • because we were from very humble beginnings.

  • And Madam was, uh, born a slave, uh,

  • was the first to be free in her family.

  • And, um, she was able to, as you said,

  • -to, uh, just achieve so much... -Right.

  • ...through insurmountable odds.

  • And she didn't have the right to vote or really own property.

  • She was born Sarah Breedlove.

  • She became Madam C.J. Walker through marriage.

  • Um, and through her marriage,

  • uh, and basically in name,

  • uh, became one of the most powerful women of her time.

  • It really is fascinating when you watch the story because,

  • essentially, she made the Fenty Beauty of her time.

  • -(laughing): She did. -(laughter)

  • -That's-that's what she did. -Yes.

  • Because here she was as a black woman who realized

  • that black women weren't being catered to at all.

  • I mean, something that, surprisingly,

  • is still a story today in beauty and in products and in care.

  • And she said, "I'm gonna make something for my people,

  • and I'm gonna put my face on it," which was a big deal.

  • -Yeah. -You show that in the story, where people were like,

  • "Oh, you see, Madam C.J. Walker, you can't just..."

  • Why do you think it was so important for her

  • to put her face on that product when so many said,

  • "That face won't sell a product"?

  • Because someone said, "That face won't sell a product."

  • -Mm. -You know, I guess if-if she, uh, did... was...

  • created the Fenty of her time, does that make me Rihanna?

  • -(laughter) -Because, like... -It does.

  • It does. It basically does.

  • (applause and cheering)

  • It really does.

  • Ah. Oh. You know, I... that, uh...

  • But in all seriousness, um, I think she-she put her face

  • on the product because someone said that she wasn't beautiful.

  • -Right. -And, um, I think

  • she wanted to be beautiful in her husband's eyes.

  • But when she realized her own beauty,

  • that's when she became powerful.

  • It really is an amazing story of this woman who has an idea,

  • overcomes insurmountable odds,

  • -is not a perfect person, as well. -No.

  • And that's what I love about the show is

  • you showing us a human being who creates this empire.

  • And people have had to estimate her net worth,

  • -because at the time, there was no Forbes. -Right.

  • But some people estimated that in 1919,

  • she had a net worth of ten million dollars.

  • -Ten million dollars, yeah. -Which is a lot of money,

  • -especially for back then. -Yeah.

  • I mean, it's a lot of money now. A ton of money back then.

  • -Yeah. -When you look at her story, I-I would honestly

  • be hard-pressed to not think of how many parallels

  • you share with her in real life, because, you know,

  • you've been outspoken about the journey many black people,

  • -black women, specifically, face in Hollywood. -Mm-hmm. Yeah.

  • You know, the-the challenges of not just having work,

  • -but having control of your work, creating work. -Right.

  • You have now begun a journey

  • of Madam C.J. Walker through Hollywood.

  • I believe you're creating, what, ten projects as we speak?

  • Yeah, I... uh, a few.

  • -Yes! I mean... -(applause and cheering)

  • What-what has that... what has that journey been like?

  • You know, I-I... I think that

  • you-you touched on something really important to me,

  • because so many people have asked me, uh,

  • "What is the role that you feel you're destined to play?"

  • And for me, it is producer,

  • because not only am I creating opportunities for myself,

  • but for so many other people who've been marginalized,

  • whose voices haven't been heard, whose stories haven't been told.

  • -Right. -And, um, we just had such synergy,

  • um, uh, with the-the diversity, uh, of women

  • who-who were a part of this.

  • And-and I feel very grateful that I got to be a part of it.

  • Before I let you go,

  • I know that LeBron James is also one of the...

  • -Is he one of the producers on the show? -Yes, yes.

  • Uh, SpringHill Entertainment, uh, Maverick,

  • everybody over there-- um, they've just... LeBron.

  • They've been amazing, uh, to partner with.

  • Uh, you know, when I was making my deal,

  • uh, we had reached an impasse with the studio.

  • And I'm one of those people...

  • Because I told you, I'm from humble beginnings.

  • You know, I need, like,

  • some meatloaf, some potatoes,

  • -some good murder mysteries. -Right.

  • You know, I-I live beneath my means

  • so that I'm not living, uh,

  • -in golden handcuffs. -Right. Right.

  • -And I can walk away from the negotiating table. -Mm-hmm.

  • And I was prepared to walk away.

  • And, uh, Lebron and Maverick intervened on my behalf,

  • and we had to have that advocacy until women are,

  • you know, treated fairly, uh, with regard to the pay gap.

  • -Well, LeBron with another assist. -Yes, a big assist.

  • Thank you so much for sharing that story.

  • -Thank you for being on the show. -Thank you.

  • I hope everyone watches this.

  • "Self Made: Inspired by the Real Life of Madam C.J. Walker

  • will be on Netflix March 20. Octavia Spencer, everybody.

Welcome to The Daily Show.

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