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  • who will be the next Labour leader.

  • There are five in the field with the latest poll putting Shadow Brexit secretary Secure Starmer significantly ahead his shadow business counterpart Rebecca Long Bailey Insect.

  • The start of a 10 week campaign and the contenders were all smiles.

  • But this is a party divided by Brexit by the outgoing leader Jeremy Corbyn, By the legacy of Tony Blair.

  • Can any of these candidates somehow we've the party back together?

  • Don't I don't trust the last four years because what Jeremy brought to this party, he made us an anti austerity party that stood against cuts.

  • But if secure Starmer plays the unity card, Rebecca Long Bailey is the champion of the left.

  • I've lived through the 40 years of de industrialization that we've seen on that child from All Trafford who watched her family struggle is angry.

  • Her life was nearly shattered and now she's here to shatter the Tory majority on.

  • We do that through our movements.

  • We do that through our communities on.

  • We do that through ambition of our principles on aspirational socialist governments.

  • Whoever wins will, of course, need the charisma to mix it up with Boris Johnson Emily Thornberry has been a feature of Labor's front bench for nearly a decade now.

  • I shattered Boris Johnson for two years when he was foreign secretary, and during those two years I was Toto with him.

  • And frankly, you don't like it.

  • We need to be able to hold him to account.

  • He is, in the end, a liar.

  • He is callous.

  • He doesn't care.

  • He plays a politics he plays with people's lives.

  • He needs to be held to account.

  • Accountability comes in many forms, though, and Jess Phillips said Labor to have questions to answer about anti Semitism, suggesting she had stepped up while others hadn't.

  • The Labour Party needs a leader who has spoken out against anti Semitism and other forms of harassment.

  • In fact, when others were keeping quiet on dhe, somebody who was in the room struggling for an independent system lots and lots of meetings, I have to say I don't remember some of the people here being in that particular room or being in those particular fights on Lisa Nandi, the remainder in a leave seat who says she understands labor's challenge better than most.

  • My leave voting constituents are no more racist little Englanders than my friends who voted remain a liberal elitists on.

  • We should never allow the Tories to do that to divide us.

  • Young against old citizen against migrant North against South Town against City We have got to raise our game, a YouGov survey of labour members suggests.

  • If the ballots were concluded today, Starmer would win the first round on 46% long Bailey second on 32%.

  • And after the final round of counting, with Phillips, Thornberry and Nandi eliminated, Starmer would end up leader on 63%.

  • Labour members are also choosing their next deputy.

  • Popular with the grass roots doesn't necessarily mean popular with the wider electorate.

  • And if Labour are going to be reborn, they need to persuade voters in the de industrialized north who went Torrey to come back.

  • There's no point us choosing leader who makes that the tribe.

  • We already are still happy and good amongst ourselves.

  • We need to increase size of our tribe.

  • We need to understand that our people, it's everyone.

  • It's not just the current members off the Labour Party.

  • We're gonna persuade people voted conservative to vote Labour to lend us their vote.

  • Labour have just under five years to rebuild before the next general election.

  • Who will lead them into battle well.

  • Earlier, I spoke to a professor of politics and polling experts of John Curtis.

  • We started off talking about the voters labor had lost in the last election, particularly those Northern working class constituencies on.

  • I asked him whether it was basically all about Brexit.

  • It isn't just Brexit, but it certainly is.

  • I mean, the movement since 2015 is a lot to do with Brexit.

  • Essentially wth the conservative votes become much, much more off a leave vote back in 2015 the concerns only had the support.

  • Around 45% of those who went went on to vote leave.

  • That figure is now close to 75%.

  • Labor, conversely, has lost pretty much half of the 30% or so of the leverage they had in 2050.

  • So Brexit undoubtedly is part of the story.

  • That said, the longer term story is also to do with new labor because there's quite a lot of evidence out there now.

  • The Labour Party was losing working class votes in particular before 2050 not necessarily to the conservative that point in many cases just simply staying at home.

  • And is the public just sick of Brexit now wanted to go away after Ultra happens well, on the way.

  • Yes, there's a sense in which we are undoubtedly fed up about the fact that has gone off so long ago that, frankly, is a view that's much more common amongst leave voters to remain voters.

  • I think another $64,000 question to which we don't know the answer is the extent to which, though that sense of I'm a remainer, I'm a lever which is now really quite widespread in the electric.

  • Whether that is going to dissipate once a least, we've sorted out a long term relationship, the opinion, or whether actually that debate is going to continue.

  • I don't think we can be sure it may be that those identities remain with us on that.

  • Therefore, Brexit continues to be something that shapes the way in which people think about politics on the way in which they may still be voting the next election.

  • But his labor tries to planets returned to power.

  • Are you saying that it only way back is to recapture those northern Brexit e more working class voters that it lost.

  • Or is there another coalition of Maur Southern remain ary voters who we could go for?

  • That, I think, is essentially the choice for the party potentially faces in that we can't necessarily assume that the party is going to be able to find it, particularly to recover the working class vote on.

  • We certainly can't necessarily assume that trying to focus on young people on graduates and um or remain re social liberal message won't work for the party.

  • Their potential downsides with both strategies.

  • The difficulty with the going for the young remain folk is there is clearly potential competition from the dark arts, So I also in so far they've been when they did, the road cuts are not dead.

  • They got 14% of the vote, and the vote is very exclusively virtually remain.

  • Vote.

  • It's very much in remain areas in the south of England, so just the kind of place on although they can't win in that part of the world, they can take votes in that part of the world and make difficult for Labour Party to congregate amongst that group.

  • The difficulty with the alternative strategy of focusing on the votes of labor lost is that the votes of a lot of people, their party lost other votes of older people who will not, frankly, necessary be in the electorate in 10 15 20 years.

  • Type on there will be a fundamental question.

  • Facing the Conservative Party is, what does he do when they leave a lecture that it's got, which is very heavily amongst older people is no longer part off the electric.

  • There are also, of course, also new potential divisions.

  • The labor market coming down the truck, particularly as a result of artificial intelligence.

  • Now, how does the Labour Party respond to that against a game?

  • Be aware the agenda will move on.

  • The climate change is clearly going to be crucial.

  • Possible changes.

  • Levin market should be crucial on therefore thinking in terms of while the groups we've lost in the past may not actually be the important question, the important question may will be How do we position this party given where it now is?

  • And it is no longer a party that's particularly strong amongst the working class.

  • How, given that fact should it position itself on some of these new shoes that coming coming down the truck as well as perhaps the continuing battle about Brexit?

  • So what's your professional advice to Labour members as they choose a lead crack question?

  • I at least the question I was suggests that Labour members want to think about is yes.

  • You will want somebody who reflects your views but also think about that.

  • If you're going to be views are going to be reflected in government.

  • You need to look for evidence about whether any of these candidates could reach out to the wider public on at the moment.

  • I don't think there is sufficient evidence that any of them necessarily win on that criteria on that.

  • One of the crucial things the next three months will be the polling on.

  • Would you be more or less likely to vote for Labour of its care?

  • Stormers leader will be back along baby or whatever the answer to that question Well, we don't know, don't kisses.

  • Thanks very much.

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