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  • not really a religious woman, but sometimes there are those moments.

  • If you're listening, he's I need you right now.

  • Hey, what's going on?

  • Everybody.

  • For first we feast on Shaun Evans and you're watching hot ones.

  • It's the show with hot questions and even hotter wings.

  • And today we're joined by Halsey.

  • She's a YouTube record breaking, Grammy nominated, platinum selling singer songwriter who just released her third studio album.

  • It's called a Manic, and It's available.

  • Now.

  • Keep an eye out as well for the manic World tour Coming to a City near You.

  • Palsy.

  • Welcome to the show.

  • Thank you.

  • Wow.

  • That was quite the introduction.

  • What's your heads based, Like going into this?

  • Um, you know, I like no problem walking on stage of Madison Square Garden, but if I have to sing in front of, like, 15 people, like sweating.

  • So this is one of those occasions, you know, my album just came out.

  • You think that would be the priority on my mind?

  • And instead, I'm haven't been able to stop thinking about this for a week.

  • All right, so this 1st 1 is the classic.

  • Yeah.

  • Started the handle here.

  • Okay.

  • Eat God is pretty standard.

  • I know that you're extremely hands on in the studio and wrote or co wrote every song on Manic.

  • And I also noticed from the credit the producer credits all over the album as well.

  • Beyond lyrics and melody, what are some of the elements of sound engineering that take a song from being like a pretty good song to like a huge stadium anthem?

  • Well, you know, for us, it's a lot about like putting things in the truck that kind of help you figure out what you're supposed to feel.

  • We'll find some sounds that I think you're kind of like, indicative of the vibe or the world.

  • And then we'll layer them throughout the whole wrecker.

  • Where you here like, um, a sound of a pad that happens in track, too.

  • And then it re occurs in track 10 and you go, oh, makes the whole thing for, like, a journey.

  • So that's what I call What do you mean when you say that you want a song to sound drippy?

  • Oh, drippy.

  • Okay, we saw his drippy.

  • It's like, uh, I don't know.

  • Sometimes it's like cascading sense, like arpeggio hating sounds or like xylophones.

  • Things that kind of like twinkle on drop like sounds that's a really big at the beginning of the fall, kind of into Nothing should sound like rain.

  • This should sound like River kind of helps you get a perspective about how the music should flow.

  • And then you also include a voicemail from John Mayer on the And he seems to be from talking to musicians over the years, like pop music's consigliere E or something.

  • So connected toe artists, the mechanics of making great pop music.

  • Why did you decide to include that?

  • You know, actually, kind of did it selfishly, it was for myself.

  • The voice no happens right before without me happens on the record, and John called me the week it came out.

  • It was like, This is gonna be your biggest song.

  • It was like, Sure, And he was right.

  • It was a number one.

  • I owed it to him.

  • Yeah, I owed it to him.

  • To put that on there.

  • I feel like we have this conversation.

  • He and I.

  • A lot when an album, it's self aware that it has a hit on it.

  • It's kind of this weird thing because, like the album is not supposed to know, it has a hit.

  • Do you know what I mean?

  • Like all songs, they're Swiss, be treated equally, and it's all created fairly.

  • So the fact that after that track we introduced without me with this little voice note, it gives it this like No, no gives albums like self awareness.

  • It gives it a personality kind of your soul, bub.

  • Marching bath.

  • But it's bigger than it used to be.

  • You know, jumping.

  • I don't police that from over here, however, whoever whatever you feel good with.

  • But I would say that your textbook so far.

  • Okay, so your collaboration with K pop supergroup BTS It broke all sorts of Guinness World records, including the most viewed YouTube video in 24 hours.

  • How do K pop fans differ from, say, like your own legion of supporters or Selena Gomez?

  • Fans are like the barbs.

  • Is there a distinction?

  • They kind of move as a uh as like I don't know how to put it like a nation, almost like they operate in defense and support of BTS like they're always putting together like charity events and donating in the name of the band to perpetuate their good name.

  • Kind of, but it's definitely intimidating.

  • Have you ever given any thought to wear these, like superfine armies?

  • Like where it all ends where it all leads to.

  • And I never, ever leave thread the needle on this question.

  • So maybe I'll just talk out these random half thoughts that I have, but you'll read stories about we'll buy a billboard for the band or whatever.

  • You read all these stories.

  • They almost operate like a record.

  • Lee.

  • Yeah, you know, and it's like all of circling itself.

  • Then I start to think, Well, what if this continues to evolve, right?

  • And then you can have an artist who breaks on the Internet and then could be, like, self sustained by this fan.

  • Yeah.

  • Crowdfunded artists.

  • Exactly.

  • And then what point?

  • If they're like working on your behalf like toe, what point are you, like, beholden to them?

  • Like wow.

  • Oh, back.

  • Yeah.

  • And then are you allowed to decide to stop?

  • And they're like, No, we put all this money into you in this time.

  • Yeah, that's definitely a soon as it can feel that way anyway.

  • You know, like when fans put so much effort into, like buying the meet and greets her like buying the tickets are buying the merge.

  • It's disingenuous that music is a business by nature, but it kind of makes it easier because, like then you can you can kind of be a brat to like the corporation, right?

  • I mean, if the corporation is your fans and like, who are you?

  • Like, Who's the man?

  • You're sticking it, too.

  • It's a Hawaiian.

  • No, it's a piece from feature.

  • What's the matter with me?

  • I mean literally an idiot.

  • The Zika Pump Polynesian recognition character on the front.

  • OK, Giles.

  • Okay.

  • I'm like inspecting Romans.

  • Really good.

  • So in a rolling stone profile, you made the bold claim that you can cook a better spicy rigatoni than expense account.

  • Hot spot.

  • Carbone in New York City Still love me some Carbone, but I cook a pretty good spicy rigatoni for the people at home who want Thio, Channel Chef, whole Z in the kitchen.

  • Can you bring up by stop with the recipe?

  • Let's go.

  • Okay.

  • Well, I kind of make it different every time, Which is the nature of what you're supposed to you know what I mean?

  • It's kind of supposed to have blown.

  • Some batches are better than others, but it's basically chili paste, heavy cream, a little bit of vodka.

  • Like actual vodka.

  • I sometimes use the cheapest one I can find because it evaporates quicker, which is good, yes.

  • So take some onions on the side.

  • Get the onions.

  • Super Super caramelized maker.

  • Rigatoni.

  • Sometimes I like to use different shaped pastas, but kind of making a sauce very, very, very small chili paste.

  • Then you mix that into the cream, added some tomato paste kind of create this like pink sauces and barca sauce.

  • Put all that stuff together.

  • I always add a little bit of shredded mozzarella cheese and stir it up because it gives it that kind of like texture.

  • When it pulls apart, they don't do that.

  • A car bomb, um, in a little bit.

  • A couple of chili flakes on top.

  • Put together salt perfection good to go, and one trick is to always save like 1/2 a cup or a cup of your pasta water to add it back into the sauce.

  • That's a little school trick.

  • Yeah, Scotch bonnet, mustard fires mustardy.

  • You're a remarkably unsnapped Be music obsessive, You know.

  • You're not above, you know, standing the boy bands.

  • I love charm.

  • Mendez.

  • You know what?

  • Guess what?

  • What?

  • I'm the way here.

  • I ran into Sean Mendez.

  • No way of the hotel.

  • No way is even through this guy.

  • He is the sweetest kid.

  • It's the Canadians, man.

  • They're all night.

  • So I don't know what they're doing over there.

  • And then I told him I have free health care.

  • I'm like, we're on our way to go interview Halsey for hot ones.

  • And then we were like, talking about John Mayer, because then they have such a close relationship.

  • And then he's like, I was on the phone with John Mayer for like an hour last night.

  • So?

  • So John must have no personal life.

  • It is all just going through his phone calling everybody.

  • That's hilarious.

  • What do you think is the single greatest boy band song of all time?

  • Oh, what do you consider a boy band like?

  • It might have the sort of like class, like the classic boy band Backstreet Boys.

  • The 98 degrees, the ridiculously underrated else really showed your age with degrees there.

  • Um lfo Remember LF Oh, yeah, I mean, that record is terrible.

  • Summer grows is probably the girl on girl on TV is my is my e I want to go officially on record as saying that I like girls who were Abercrombie and Fitch.

  • Take him if I had one wish.

  • Yeah.

  • You ready to go on here?

  • There is hot.

  • All right said the fifth spot.

  • We always do this thing recurring segment that we call.

  • Explain that, Graham, we do a deep dive on our guests.

  • Instagram pulled him out.

  • That needed more context.

  • Is this Halloween or is this just like a creative endeavor?

  • That's what I look like all time.

  • No, it's Halloween.

  • I went how I went out with my boyfriend.

  • We just We just started seeing each other, and I met all of his friends for the first time.

  • What impression?

  • Yeah, and he was a good sport about he was like this.

  • My girlfriend, like, he was, like, super proud.

  • But I was also like for God.

  • I looked like that was like talking to people, and they were like, Hey, yeah, that's a good one.

  • It's Halloween.

  • They got to get off your back.

  • Ah, have a narrow.

  • That's where getting me with.

  • All right, see you.

  • It's getting really way.

  • Basil.

  • Basil.

  • It's like an evil herb garden in my mouth.

  • It tastes kind of like a very spicy, um, candle like potpourri.

  • We gotta put that testimonial right on the bottle.

  • Yeah, that'll sell it for sure, cause he says, this tastes like hippy perfume.

  • So during last year's AM ese made headlines for a speech you made while accepting a no board, you said, I'm thankful to the fans because they're the people who really give a shit about music.

  • What do you see is the disconnect between music fans and then the institutions and tastemakers that serve is the critical establishment.

  • The music industry.

  • Well, it's hard, you know, when I before I started making music, I was a painter was a fine art major.

  • So part of me that really does care about critical claim.

  • Then there's another part of me who's like my entire brand has been like fuck critics like the whole time, and I think to now fans have a platform for it before somebody else on the pipes, like there is the column, or like a music reviewer.

  • Whatever.

  • But I love going on rotten tomatoes.

  • Then you can see, like what critics think of it.

  • And then you can see what, like the people.

  • And if I see a high people number in a low critic number Yeah, hell, yeah.

  • I actually got nervous when man, it came out because the reviews were so good.

  • I was like, Everyone's gonna hate it.

  • There's gonna be a thing like, that's what this means.

  • Everyone's gonna hate it.

  • Um, someone gave me this really good piece of advice once they were like, If you're on stage and you're singing and they're singing louder than you are, then it's a fucking hit.

  • And that's that's what That's how I judge it.

  • No words to live by from halls.

  • Are you ready to move on?

  • Okay.

  • Okay.

  • This is the flaky one.

  • Golf Proper fuck you go fuck yourself.

  • I'm really impressing myself right now in the room.

  • Not a dry eye in the house.

  • Yeah, as someone who's good at contextualizing their life experiences in terms of larger universal themes.

  • How have you filed away?

  • That incident in which you were accused of plagiarizing your own hole because that seems to me it's like it's like an absurdist parable for the digitally.

  • Oh, I got so funny.

  • Um, I had a really popular blogger, Tumbler, back in the day and one of the poems I put on it was you were red.

  • You like to because I was blue, You touched me.

  • And suddenly I was a lilac sky and you decided purple.

  • It just wasn't for you.

  • Is this like I was 18?

  • And it was This is this, like, little poem about how you meet someone, and then they make you different, and then they decide they don't like the person they made you, and they're out there like you did this.

  • You know, I believe, um so a couple years later, ended up in one of my songs Colors, colors.

  • And, um, people were like, You stole that from Tumblr.

  • And I was like, I stole it from my tumbler.

  • Yeah, it was good.

  • It was humbling was a humbling experience.