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  • the way to the ultimate hand grand showdown.

  • Today, we're gonna look at a bunch of high end hand grinders and talk about which one I think, might be the best one off them.

  • A note Before we begin, there are a couple off notable exceptions.

  • First and foremost is the Lin Weber H G.

  • One that did not make it into this testing because it's $1000 I just didn't really feel comfortable spending that money.

  • It's $1000.

  • Secondly, Ah, lot of people had requested the felt, too, from made by knock that was out of stock, as we're a couple of other grinders that people requested.

  • So here's what we have.

  • We have the lighter three.

  • We got the Comandante see 40.

  • We've got the hell 0101 We've got the timber more chestnut.

  • We've got the air grind from Abe.

  • I knock.

  • I got the key New M 47 And joining the testing is the public's money that won the first round, which was the best cheap hand grinder.

  • So I brought it forward into this round to see how it stacks up.

  • How does it compare to the other grinders.

  • At this point, I do have to say thank you to my supporters on Patriarch who made this possible, who gave me the budget to go out on by these things.

  • And I really look forward to giving them away again.

  • I thank you so much.

  • This is so cool.

  • I'm aware you've kind of ruined May.

  • I am gonna be unnecessarily fussy about everything.

  • Now, you know when you get nothing but really good things to compare side by side.

  • Suddenly things that wouldn't normally bother you become horrific, Outrageous, disgraceful.

  • So I'm gonna see him unnecessarily fussy.

  • That's just the nature of having a bunch of really nice things to compare.

  • You just end up nit picking.

  • That said, Let's get into how I tested these.

  • So I did want to make sure that they could all make espresso.

  • So I dialed them in for espresso each and everyone of copious notes along the way, as well as did a bunch of tastings with that, What I will tell you is that first and foremost, dialing in seven hand grinders across multiple coffees for espresso is very unpleasant.

  • I do not recommend that whatsoever.

  • It took me a long time, and I had a very sore arms.

  • I'm not sure I'd recommend hand groaning for espresso.

  • I know some people out there like it, so it was necessary to test all of these to see how they were due on dhe.

  • They all could brew express er what I also did for filter testing.

  • Waas.

  • I brewed them all until they all were extracting at a 30 gram to 500 grams of water ratio till they were all extracting about 21%.

  • It's more margin over Idol demand as closely as I could.

  • They were then taste it to see if there's a big difference.

  • I wanted to push these just a little bit coarser.

  • The final they are, the more uniformed they're likely to be.

  • If you give them a little bit more coarseness, then floors and the birds will start to show up a little bit more.

  • Alongside that, I then took samples off the grounds.

  • And how do I look at them using some free software recently provided by Jonathan Gone?

  • Yeah, he is an astrophysicist by day on someone who's writing some amazing software for coffee, people are link it down below unless you take a photograph of the grounds and ultimately analyzed the size of those particles based on the number of pixels that they occupy and give you a distribution of grind profile.

  • So that was that was the testing.

  • And I've ground by hand.

  • I don't know how many kilos now, but but enough that I don't particularly want to do it anymore, but it was fascinating.

  • So what I'm gonna do now is I'm gonna jump into each individual grinder and talk through a little bit of that grinder.

  • And then at the end, I will kind of wrap up with a summary of which one I think I would want to keep.

  • That's gonna be the metric right.

  • Which one?

  • I will be the saddest to give away because it's the one I would most want to keep.

  • Let's start with the light or three.

  • First up is the Leider three from often espresso and good as me.

  • This thing is huge, like it's huge.

  • I have no idea why it's as big as it is.

  • And to be honest, this was a big negative for me.

  • I don't I don't want to grinder this big There are certainly other grounders with much smaller form factors delivering everything.

  • You would want to confess that from the beginning that did bother me a little bit.

  • Now it means you have an enormous capacity.

  • Could get 60 70 grams of beans in this thing.

  • Now it does become slightly more compact.

  • You can lift and move the handle into the middle, so it's It's sort of slimmer and expose easier to travel with.

  • But that's not an enormous space saving.

  • If I'm honest, so it is plastic body.

  • There's a large burst set inside it, and it is a step lis grind adjuster.

  • So here's how it works.

  • There's a grand educator at the top.

  • There is a locking ring, and then there's your grind adjustment.

  • So right now the locking ring is compressed against the ground adjustment so I can't change my grind.

  • If I unlock my locking ring and I can now adjust my grinders, needed your finer Barrenger coarser, and then I can lock my grinder back at that setting a zit.

  • You I I don't particularly love this feeling, you know, I don't like sort of locking the ring against this.

  • It just didn't feel pleasing to me.

  • That may be different for you, but for me, I just didn't really enjoy just in the ground on this thing.

  • It is a wonderfully quick grinder.

  • Those are big birds inside of it, and it definitely choose threw coffee at a pretty fast rate, which meant grinding for espresso was pleasurable.

  • The shop it pulled was pretty good, like just about every grinder.

  • After that mess was saying all of their shots start pretty slow and then really flow very quickly in the last half of the espresso, which was kind of interesting to me when it came to brewing coffee.

  • I did enjoy the brew that it produced.

  • It was a little finicky to get there, but it was quick to grind.

  • At least it's 100 and £80 for that I'm a little disappointed of amount of plastic in this thing.

  • It doesn't feel as premium as some of the other ground.

  • Is that the same sort of price point?

  • The bean hopper is relatively well designed.

  • There's no issues with bounce out where you're gonna put coffee in and the beans hit the stabilizing pieces and bounce back out again.

  • which does happen with the other grinder.

  • Sometimes it's overall.

  • Yeah, pretty impressed.

  • It's a solid grinder.

  • It does a good job for the money.

  • I don't love the size of the form factor.

  • I don't particularly enjoy the grind adjustment on it, but it's actual delivery of ground.

  • Coffee is pretty good.

  • Now.

  • Come on, don't see 40 Comandante really kind of kick started the high end grinder thing there had been expensive hand ground is before them.

  • But I think, Comandante, we're the first ones to turn up push, grind quality at a high price push.

  • A high end experience.

  • They're really paved the way for a lot of premium hand grounders behind them.

  • It's a beautiful thing.

  • It does feel very well made.

  • It does feel very premium, with one exception.

  • The little plastic piece here attached to the crank handle.

  • I did.

  • I don't love this.

  • Actually, I don't love that the lid is attached to the crank handle.

  • That kind of bothers me a little bit.

  • It does also have a pretty high stabilizing point and loading.

  • This can result in a limited bounce out where you're just pouring coffee beans in on a couple hit this and bounce back out again.

  • It's really, really annoying when it happens, because coffee beans are very irritating.

  • Once they're outside of the place, you want them to be like the counter or the floor or anywhere.

  • Really.

  • Obviously, you need these pieces here to stabilize the driveshaft through this thing.

  • The grind adjustment is pretty simple.

  • There's a coarser, finer doll here.

  • You do need to make sure that your lid is on.

  • Otherwise you can't really adjust it.

  • It is a step grinder.

  • I think there is a mod to give you a bit more control over that.

  • If you find these steps a little bit too big, they weren't too big for me.

  • I didn't have a particularly difficult time.

  • Dialing in for espresso was pretty limited range to dial in with, but I hit my shot times.

  • My ratio that I wanted to on the shot was very good.

  • It was probably my favorite shot.

  • Other testers liked another grinder a little bit more, but I really liked the espresso from this again in the brood testing.

  • It produced a very delicious cup of coffee relatively easily.

  • The steps got me where I needed to go relatively easily again.

  • It's clearly a good person in there.

  • On the grind analysis shows, it's It's pretty good.

  • It does have a glass collection chamber.

  • It's the only one of the I tested that had a glass collection chamber on during testing.

  • I did drop this on a hard floor.

  • It didn't break.

  • It's well made, but it did make me think.

  • I'm not sure I want this to be glass because I'm clumsy.

  • You can definitely tell it is getting dirty quicker than you can with the other ones breakable.

  • Things stress me out, especially getting into trouble with something you might have just rolling around in a bag full of stuff that that crossed my mind.

  • I don't think I've seen many people break these or heard complaints about it.

  • But across my mind, overall, you could argue This is kind of the gold standard of hand grinders.

  • They really set the bar where it is.

  • They said it pretty high.

  • I really enjoy this thing.

  • I was impressed by the quality of coffee that produced start to finish.

  • It's a really nice grinder thing is the hero, one at one, and it is beautiful it's really beautifully machined.

  • So again the handle is connected.

  • To lead.

  • The live in this case is metal.

  • This'll is a sort of unibody piece.

  • It's all kind of build out, and it is lovely.

  • There's a little grippy ring here, which was okay to use the grounds collection.

  • Bin is a friction connection, which is nice.

  • It's a nice, solid little ground's been.

  • So the ground adjustment is at the bottom.

  • Here it is Step Lis, unlike some of the others that have, ah, grand adjustment at the bottom, which is a very nice to use s.

  • So you need to make sure your handles attached to make that adjustment.

  • I was very impressed by this ground.

  • It is again relatively expensive, but not by any stretch them most expensive.

  • I think it's very good.

  • I like the design.

  • I think it's beautiful.

  • The adjustment was good.

  • The shots I had were good.

  • The brewed coffee I had was also good.

  • It seems to perform pretty well and grinds analysis.

  • This is a very strong grinder.

  • It does look fantastic.

  • Do I have any downsides?

  • Yeah, a couple again.

  • The stabilisers relatively higher budget have a little bit bounce out there, and if I'm to be truly nit picky, this little ball should spin as you crank the handle.

  • But it was quite sticky and often wouldn't, and it was a bit frustrating.

  • It's gotten better with use, which indicates that something just didn't quite fit the way it was supposed to and is wearing down to the point that it does.

  • But occasionally it sticks, and that's annoying.

  • It doesn't feel superb, and you want these things to feel fantastic, quick to grind, enjoyable to use.

  • The lack of guidance on the ground adjustment is a little frustrating, but not a huge problem.

  • They do give you a reference in terms of burr movement for, I think, a 30 degree turn on their website.

  • It's a very good grinder.

  • It may be ended up feeling a little mid pack.

  • It does everything very well, but it doesn't really stand out in a really big way against some of its competition.

  • But if you want the ground Oh, that looks like this.

  • That produces very good tasting coffee.

  • I was impressed by this on this Is the timber more grander, the chestnut grander.

  • I probably made a mistake I ordered this with the wooden base.

  • The more premium one is the more expensive one in the clear base.

  • That is an option on dhe Upon using it, it kind of I don't like it.

  • It doesn't feel right to grind coffee into a little wooden chamber.

  • I find that really hard to explain Why when I say it out loud, but something about it just unsettles me.

  • It feels like something that's gonna get dirty in a way that's gonna be really hard to clean if you're cutting the inside of this coffee oil all the time.

  • Well, that that that might not be good.

  • But there is.

  • There is an option.

  • You don't have to get it with the chestnut base from the beginning.

  • This thing, this piece has a little magnet, so it clicks on, but it would often come off.

  • I think the moment connection is quite strong enough for me, so grinding.

  • Sometimes I did whip the handled piece off that was quite irritating.

  • On the plus side, it is a very fast grinder.

  • It does grind very quickly whether that's the way that they're feeling the beans in or not.

  • I'm not sure again.

  • The lid is attached to the handle and hear the stabilizing pieces little bit deeper, though it is quite a narrow grinder to load into which was okay, That was fine.

  • A couple of things that I didn't like as much with this grinder.

  • Now, one thing I really, really didn't like about this was that the way that this bottom piece connects on, there are four little ball bearings, a little springs that compress in clicks into place.

  • But it was really easy to sort of break that connection during grinding.

  • I have quite large hands, which means it's easy for me to want to hold the grinder on both the base and the main body.

  • And if I did that, it was easy, very easy to just disconnect that It wasn't that it fell off ever.

  • It never did.

  • It just feels really unpleasant.

  • Toe, hold it like that.

  • Tohave.

  • It sort of slipped and move around when you're trying to grind.

  • I didn't like that at all.

  • It made pretty good filter coffee.

  • Uh, but when it came to espresso, it is a stepped grind adjustment again on the steps were very big.

  • I had very large changes in my flow rate from a single step final or closer, and it was pretty difficult to dial in.

  • I got there.

  • The shot was okay, but the steps were pretty big.

  • These things I like about this, the way that it grinds feels very good.

  • But there's a few things that just really frustrate me.

  • So it's not a grinder I'd recommend for espresso, particularly.

  • I definitely don't like the base.

  • I don't like the material that I chose just against my own fault.

  • But it was the premium version at all the material, and I don't like the way it connects.

  • Both of those things really damaged the experience of using this thing.

  • It just makes it a lot less enjoyable to use, Quite frustrating to use the grounds from it were good, but not fantastic way.

  • Now this is the air grind from knock on.

  • It's a really interesting price point.

  • It's £100 before shipping, which is cheap £99 to be