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  • Hello and welcome to another addition off their jumps.

  • Race in podcaster.

  • This is Episode four on.

  • We're in for another cracking episode as well.

  • We've got so much look back on over the weekend that shell them on over in Island is well, post will be looking ahead to the action this coming Saturday, both at Ascot On hate up Thio.

  • I'm Bobby being a visit, as always.

  • I'm delighted to be joined by Nick Said it, Nick.

  • Great to see you is always on.

  • We have got so much to go through reviewing what we start over the weekend.

  • Hello, baby.

  • Yeah, great.

  • See you as always Great to be back for another episode of the Jumps Racing podcast.

  • And this undoubtedly the best one we've had yet So far, so much to talk about from Child Abandoned Island and so much.

  • The preview is, well, it could be one of the biggest Saturday to the season coming up.

  • It's certainly good in day.

  • Some rail top stars could be on show.

  • They said come in Saturday, exciting times ahead to say the least.

  • But just before we get into what's happening this Saturday Haydock on a Scotch is.

  • Well, let's just have a look.

  • But what we saw over the weekend at shelter him on that.

  • First of all, the champion bomb perform is that working out really well, isn't it?

  • It is.

  • It is.

  • So the opening race on the Saturday wasthe e Ballymore sponsored hide novices Hurdle switch from the Friday which was claimed by the weather.

  • And it was one really well by time Hill, who is now two from two over hurdles, both of those in Grade two company.

  • He seemed to handle the step up to two miles and five really well, and it was really good performance.

  • He looks a stay in the making, but I thought the most interesting angle here was, she said, Bobby's how good this champion bomb performs looking now sometimes it works out well.

  • Sometimes it really doesn't.

  • The jumping mice perform If you head back 10 10 years or so, Cue card course being set out for off.

  • Yeah, probably the most famous renewal desperately sacrum when the finished third and that date, even he starred in that champion bumper behind cue card or spent a second thoughts, third in the supreme, possibly behind out for Frank You, Karl Roebuck, you fourth district Trying to think this is why you can improvise.

  • I'm describing.

  • But anyway, go back to this year's champion bumper off the 1st 4 of all come out and they've done really well over hurdles.

  • You know, we know all about viral.

  • And we spoke about him a couple weeks ago.

  • Type in hell was come out.

  • Andi also Blue Sari as well as the time he was third in the champion.

  • But he's command one too great to events over hurdles believe Sorry.

  • Now he was the runner up last year, has come out and made a winning debut on the same day on the Saturday over It punches town.

  • He probably got the job done a bit more rather than being visually impressive.

  • But this Lois multi come from them and we can't forget about our favorite.

  • The named horses.

  • Well, abracadabra who was forged in the Temple member, and he has made a really good start over timber as well, So that form is proving really, really hot.

  • We had a try on fertile trail on the day as well.

  • They've actually another train fertile trail going up as well that such that the next meeting at Charles Lindbergh, all mankind looks at a cracking recruit from the flatter to join it.

  • Done.

  • Skelton?

  • Yeah, on paper.

  • Probably an unlikely recruit from the flat because he really never got going Is a three year old for Michael Bell.

  • Last year, just a couple of runs and really disappointing for all that we knew he was good on Dhe.

  • He looks so at home in this completely different assignment on Saturday was in tough conditions for a bonus for, you know, for Ross, switching from the flat.

  • One really, really well scooted clear and 20 to 1 now for the triumph urd or next March and challenge them.

  • It's far too early to make any kind of informed call in that division, as we know, but he said three year old and then a four year old next year to follow.

  • It certainly does now.

  • Just fair, I think base reasons to be, I should, but I don't think at the same time I think you should go for the straight.

  • I mentioned there that Caspian caviar, Gold Cup day.

  • They have another try infertile trail.

  • There we may see him go for that.

  • However, there's also a tray off Hurdle Trail on the same day at Doncaster in the Summit Juvenile Hurdle.

  • That's a great too contest, and I personally near kind light seemed turned up there.

  • Now.

  • It was some years ago that certain peace and co he won that race.

  • Of course, he went on to win the trail head.

  • All that sees it as well.

  • So I'd like to seem to know Patel more.

  • What's your thoughts?

  • Yeah, we are very guilty, perhaps in national hunt for Considering Cheltenham.

  • You know it's known as the H Q.

  • On dhe.

  • It'll roll revolves around there.

  • It's easy to forget that there is some really good prize money and really good graded races away from challenge and particularly the North.

  • No more so than it.

  • Don't Custer.

  • And yeah, it will be nice.

  • And I know you're a proud Yorkshireman.

  • Say nice of you, that mazel industrial.

  • But yeah, I would be good.

  • Good Tiu C.

  • It's spread out a bit on.

  • Do you know, rather than everything revolving around, tell me that it's probably as well to be a great set.

  • Stepping stone and trail along the way.

  • Also, let's talk about the other Stay in handicap.

  • Chase it Sheldon as well.

  • On Saturday afternoon, it went in the way of West approach.

  • The Collinses aren't Andrabi Power was speaking a few weeks here about certain horses, trainers in connections.

  • They're already thinking about the Grand National in April on.

  • They're also doing the same with it.

  • With West approach, he could turn up in the Grand National.

  • Yeah, another one to add into the mix, you know, showed again on Saturday that he's very reliable, tough, genuine performer.

  • Stamina is his forte.

  • And, yeah, it's a logical target to aim for entry.

  • Whether all of these horses, as we know we'll get there is into the thing.

  • But yeah, it makes sense.

  • I will touch on this race that we spoke about Ramses to teii about 23 weeks ago.

  • Now he was really good when winning on reappearance in a handicap hurdle race switchback defenses, and it was disappointing with me.

  • Um, his mark looks pretty high.

  • Run off 153 Now in on on Saturday, you wonder what they're gonna do with him next.

  • He's another that you would think the Grand National be a logical point, but he's probably got something to prove now.

  • Next time out.

  • The big race of the day, of course, was the bet Victor Gold Cup, and it went in the way off.

  • Happy Diva.

  • Just before, though, we get the thoughts off it, Nick.

  • Let's say now, from our very own winning trainer, Carrie Lee had a brilliant winner on Saturday in the bet Victor Gold cooked with happy diva.

  • First of all, congratulations.

  • Thank you very much, Nick.

  • Great day on.

  • Yeah, it must be a real thrill to win a race like that.

  • Now I know it's a sort of question that's difficult to quantify, but just how expected?

  • My You have a big run on Saturday?

  • Did you think that she had a real shot at winning?

  • Well, to be honest with me, I want to be the right truck racing.

  • If she kept walking, running and get a ride, I'm pretty sure you're in the frame on behalf of the race is run hanging out with fucking to learn.

  • I'm kind of going off by convention to the public, vote on everything.

  • Just one in her direction is burning.

  • Richard Patrick gave her a beautiful ride.

  • Yeah, as you say, Brilliant.

  • Right from Richard.

  • Patrick is one.

  • And the man.

  • If he showed so much hard and she to go all the way to the line, she's around trash proper.

  • Rachel, she needs a job.

  • Some, possibly Bridas.

  • Well, like he enjoyed it.

  • Felt very good.

  • Rachel's on?

  • Yes, she she certainly.

  • But believe, but very bloody like yet brilliant, really great attitude in that hand.

  • And what does it mean to the yard in general, to you and to all the staff to have such a big winner like this challenge?

  • Well, when you compound the country, everyone the traitor in that race, nothing to save lives 24 horses on most of the trainers are least double trouble that mind on going to be taking on the last with champion trainer Pool Nicholas David Piper.

  • Initially, I'm beating them at the home of right wing It it really does mean a lot.

  • And a quick word on happy Deaver as well.

  • I mean, of course, she usually nothing, but what would the Plan B for her next?

  • Could we perhaps expected to see her in something like the Caspian caviar Or would you go back against her in sex?

  • Now it's certainly a possibility.

  • Got up six for this race for this way.

  • What you giving away five times two secretaries as well?

  • I'd probably be looking to stay in her own against regs that, like the lady's catchers get.

  • Generally, I'm certainly was being hard on her, and I think I want a quick turnaround.

  • Good life, chuckling in December for I mean, she had a tough right, but never say never want to go back Lovely talking to carry.

  • Anyway, in there, we'll catch up with you seen So that was heavily and delighted.

  • Carrie Lee Just to wear to emphasize is, well, we're in the big race off the day on Saturday.

  • Or what a brave performance it was from her.

  • As as, well, for happy Even Nick.

  • Yeah, brilliant to see Carrie do so well, it's no secret that we sponsor here.

  • A horse racing don't net so very much.

  • I think the PR team were being the hands together when they when they could see the logo and I see the cameras.

  • That's job done from our perspective.

  • But yeah, brilliant success.

  • Great to see you get a big Saturday win in happy dealers.

  • So likeable isn't she?

  • Is a man really consistent type and just ran all the way to the line.

  • And, you know, what more is there to say?

  • Just a brilliant performance.

  • And great to see Carrie back, Back where it matters.

  • On a Saturday Slade house.

  • Hey, came to grief it to out dont but it was traveling really well.

  • Big question is love.

  • You know it from books.

  • Really?

  • But should he have stayed on his feet?

  • Do you think he was gonna be the winner?

  • He was traveling notice to be well, wasn't It is no secret that lots of people fancied him for this no more.

  • Say probably then the tis odds.

  • We sort of felt that the secret might've been out when he wouldn't say Well last month, a child him traveling really really well.

  • And then just it was a straight a strange fall.

  • He didn't look like he was gonna tip over and then ultimately couldn't finish the race.

  • Yet he would have gotten very close, wouldn't he?

  • Um, He's one to follow.

  • I think you mentioned that he looks Is that you think he's a prime candidate for the Caspian Caviar.

  • I personally would go for that myself because, you know, should have won the bet Victor Gold Cup.

  • Then you could have had the case.

  • He'll try and go and do the double, but I think the way he was traveling, I've really liked the way his combat this year, because I mentioned it on the park just a few weeks ago, did inside.

  • I said I was there.

  • I was doing shots radio at the time, a couple of years ago, when Hey wanted the opening meeting is done that again this season and so should say what's or two years ago I expect him to really kick on.

  • That stated, Did it quite kick all like I thought you would?

  • But But this year I've really like in what I say.

  • So so for May.

  • Yes, I would go in December, back to Cheltenham custody and cover our Gold Cup ongoing and train and go win that race.

  • That's the way I would plate it with him because I really want to say and I think connections.

  • I think they'll be thinking that anyway, you know, to go for there for the Caspian caviar gold because the question is, what would happy diva turn up for that as well?

  • You think so, wouldn't you?

  • Um, he and I, we we tried to get the picture of Carrie from that, and you know it's still up in the air, but it's a logical choice for her or whether they put it back into mayor's races.

  • It's it's exposed.

  • It's up to carry at the end of the day.

  • But yet it's got to be a temptation to go to go for the double like that.

  • You know, such a such a high profile double to go for.

  • But what about safe House?

  • Do you think he is a graded level chaser?

  • Because he has got this great victory over hurdles and he's in handicap coming the moment does he look to you?

  • And then you said it is impressed you.

  • Does he look to you like a graded horse in 100 cats?

  • Don't get excited, you know about this horse.

  • That's that's my honest opinion.

  • Foot.

  • From what we've seen so far, you know, should have sent this fee.

  • I think he wants the likeliest winner in all furnished so in answer to your question is, yes, that most definitely I think it's gonna happen, you know, sooner rather than than later.

  • To, to say the least, are just sticking.

  • We're with Children.

  • Also, just have a look at what we saw on Sunday.

  • Of course, put the cattle on one in the in the Ark.

  • Will try was all over Al Dancer.

  • So it's to get the job done here.

  • But your opinion, Nick, you know how much is that?

  • Put the kettle on now a serious contender for elections are called.

  • It's a really interesting one, isn't it?

  • Because coming into the race, this just looked like a match between two smart, always hurdlers from last season.

  • Aren't answering getaway trump Andi as it panned out.

  • They just couldn't get past this really gay mayor put the cattle on.

  • She did everything right, and I thought there was a shade of black courted about it because of that that she started so early in the season.

  • She's four from five over.

  • Fences already started all the way back in May, and she just keeps going.

  • The question will always be how far she can take this, but she's got the article trial under about I.

  • I think the headline act is still without dancer and get away from there.

  • Probably still the two that will be favored to turn into bona fide Arkle, um, contenders next March.

  • But this division looks really open at the moment.

  • A time recording.

  • It's Tuesday.

  • Lorena, I think, is due to run on Thursday.

  • Yes, she could be the one that really becomes the star name in the division in terms of taking out outright favoritism, because I think it's 8 to 1 the field at the moment.

  • Yeah, it's it's a little check what it is at the moment.

  • I think you're right there that want to be fair.

  • And I think it is wrong about the the one they feel right there.

  • We have the slur.

  • Didn't weigh on Sunday afternoon as well.